AyB always sneaking under the radar, and I don't like his misrepresentation of me as per above. More of the thing Astley said. Might be OMGUSy, but it's the best I've got. ##Vote: All your Base.
I'll look at Rick's case on AyB when I do the big rick reread; I wasn't depending on it for my vote (said vote does need reconsidering now that AyB has corrected the claim I was moving onto Combo. Will try and reread AyB at the same time).
O...kay, that's really comforting. "Let's make an OMGUS vote on me principally based off of something that was basically a typo from being exhausted when typing up a post, and to make it sound better, defer town to someone else's case on that person, which I myself have not read at all". Yeah, um, thanks.
Explains why there was very little original opinion, but seems to think that's the only charge he had to answer. AyB, having no firm opinions on D1, or having no original things to add late on D3, is one thing, but making long posts where you report what's happened and repeat others' opinions is bad for other reasons; it seems like you're trying to make it appear you're offering more opinion than you are. Which is a scummy thing to do.
(I'm well aware I'm not the most concise of posters myself; I'm not trying to make my own case on AyB here, just explaining why I think Astley's reasoning is sound.)
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Are you
serious?First off, like I said, I didn't repeat other people's opinions on D3, I merely had the same opinions as a lot of people there and posted late in the day. There are only so many opinions one can have, especially when it's D3 in this game, with the day's lynch
already decided before the day even began, and a confirmed scum spamming up the thread every 15 seconds. By your logic, everyone in the game who has the same opinion on any issue, ever, must be scummy! Oh wait now all of town is scummy because we have to
all agree on a lynch in the end.Secondly, I make long posts. This is a bad habit. If my posts were all purely reporter-y, this would be scummy. As by your own admission they are not, this is not scummy in and of itsself, merely annoying at best. But yeah, I do find it amusing that you are trying to use wordiness and post length instead of
post content and opinions at this point as points in your case. But way to put that last line there, if you think this is behaviour that is explicitly scummy, why are you doing it yourself? Seriously.
He's saying my presumptions are bad, unless I have unrelated evidence from elsewhere, in which case they somehow become okay.
How is this hard to understand? Your presumptions are your
presumptions. i.e. they might make sense to you, but
why should be believe you about them at all? There is no reason to, when there is no reason for us to believe your opinion of the events that have recently transpired among Touhou/Cake/Demote, there is no intrinsic reason to suggest your opinion is more valid than the one that the events discussed actually
did happen, etc. However, if you now bring
solid evidence of Touhou exhibiting scummy behaviour, or of him messing up night action claims and contradicting someone else's statements on how night actions for a given night played out, there is now reason for us to believe your case on him, as there is now something that we can all see about him that is off.
Seriously, there is a reason that we all make cases and not just claim person X/Y/Z is scum: because how do we know that person X/Y/Z is more likely to be scum than person \alpha/\beta/\gamma? Similar case here. We have no reason for your presumptions to be correct at the moment, hence my complaints. It is not that they "somehow" become okay, it's that they become okay for basic mafia gameplay reasons. Seriously.
Shana's accusation on Touhou is so insane and tangential it feels almost like it's TRYING to convince us that she's just a moronic Townie. It's totally out of character compared to the rest of her posts, too.
Noticed this too. Soviet was at least consistent, whereas with Astley there was at least a semi-logical progression for his nonsense case on Advice Dog (Soviet vote on him -> Soviet vote made for reasons that turned out to be invalid -> Huge Dog defence on Soviet -> Request at Dog to stop defending Soviet -> A potential Dog/Soviet scumteam guess via questionable logic made while pissed off -> Nonsense case). Not only is ShikiShana's case bafflingly out of nowhere and so terrible considering the rest of his posting was surprisingly good, but his insistence at not doing anything else (i.e. finding actual evidence on Touhou or scumhunting and voting someone else, or even just commenting on everyone else alive) is also aggravating.
O...kay, ShikiShana, do you claim that you're just giving up or something? Not sure what you mean by "leaving the game".
Anyway: fine with a ShikiShana lynch. However, I still feel that at the moment, XBox 360 is by far the scummier player. See: several of my posts, but we have: terrible logic on multiple cases (Soviet, myself), Combo's actions w.r.t. him D2, misreps, a lot of setup rehashing, blasting me for long wordy posts while having the same issue himself (and the fact that in and of itsself, this is not scummy and thus should not be a major point in a case against someone), and the added weirdness w.r.t. 2g1c isn't helping him at all. Hence, for now, vote stays.
Ninja BelAir: what makes you think the ShikiShana case is being blown out of proportion, out of curiosity? Part of the reason for the case on him is that today's content is very suddenly so, SO much worse than several days' worth of well-reasoned, sensible content.
