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Something I've been kicking around for a while, and have ultimately decided to go ahead with, is assembling some data for my own records.  I've always liked mixing up games that are well played and understood with obscurer things to make them easier to deal with, so the criteria 'Ranked' shows up in things I do a lot.

But obviously, 'ranked' is a relatively outdated concept now.  With the DL gone, and rankings static, there's no correcting system in place to improve the definition of what's well played over time.  And so, for my own purposes if nothing else, I've elected to compile some new data.

Here's how this will work.  There will be a large, large list here.  It will have every game ranked at the end of the DL's life on it.  What I'd like to know is if you played it, and if you would keep it 'ranked'.  In addition, I'm going to try and assemble a list of relevant games that were never ranked, for which I need the same data.  Obviously, I may miss things there (I am afterall using my own play list to build that list) so write-ins are welcome, but please draw attention to them so I can make a new post (or edit them in, depending on response I get here).

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts
Radiant Historia
Tales of Vesperia
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning
Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy XII
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years

Obviously this is a huge list (I mean, it took me 20 minutes to type it, and I was just reading names off lists) and I expect everyone will do them in shifts, if at all.  If you follow any topics I post here, please respond!  Afterall, it's mostly so I can make more accurate and hopefully less lame topics.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 07:00:43 PM by Cmdr_King »
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 08:41:56 PM »
I'm assuming that keeping things as ranked can be split up between characters in games?
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 08:48:23 PM »
For purposes of board tourneys I've always considered a game all or nothing in the 'ranked' department.  Otherwise I'm not entirely sure how you mean that.
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 09:03:38 PM »
I mean, I would keep the game of WA:ACF ranked, but would boot Mariel.
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 09:05:54 PM »
The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad- Played,  unrank
Arc the Lad 2- Played, Rank
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits- Played, unrank
Breath of Fire- Played, rank
Breath of Fire II- Played, rank
Breath of Fire III- Played, rank
Breath of Fire IV- Played, rank
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter- Played, unrank
Brigandine- Played, abstain.
Chrono Cross- Played, rank
Chrono Trigger- Played, rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga- Played, rank
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness- Played, rank
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories- Played, rank
Dragon Quest VIII- played, rank
Dragon Warrior IV- Played, rank
Earthbound- Haven't played, rank
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword- Played, rank
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones- Played, rank
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance- Played, rank
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn- Played, rank
Final Fantasy- Played, rank
Final Fantasy III- Hven't played, rank
Final Fantasy IV- Played, rank
Final Fantasy V- Played, rank
Final Fantasy VI- Played, rank
Final Fantasy VII- Played, rank
Final Fantasy VIII- Played, rank
Final Fantasy IX- Played, rank
Final Fantasy Tactics- Played, rank
Final Fantasy X- Played, rank
Final Fantasy X-2 Haven't finished, unrank
Grandia- Played, rank
Grandia II- Played, rank
Grandia III- Played, rank
Golden Sun- Played, rank
Legend of Dragoon- Played, rank
Legend of Legaia- Played, unrank
Legaia 2: Duel Saga-Played, rank
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom-Played, rank
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals-Played, rank
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete-Played, rank
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete-Played, rank
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis-Played, rank
Mega Man X: Command Mission-Played, rank
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen-Played, rank
Persona-Played, rank
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment- Haven't played, unrank
Persona 3- Haven't played, rank
Persona 4 -Played, rank
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow-Played, rank
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal- Haven't played, rank
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald- Haven't played, rank
Phantasy Star-Played, unrank
Phantasy Star II-Played, unrank
Phantasy Star IV-Played, rank
Suikoden-Played, rank
Suikoden II-Played, rank
Suikoden III-Played, rank
Suikoden IV-Played, rank
Suikoden V-Played, rank
SaGa Frontier-Played, rank
Seiken Densetsu 3-Played, rank
Shining Force-Played, rank
Shining Force II-Played, rank
Shadow Hearts-Played, rank
Shadow Hearts: Covenant-Played, rank
Shadow Hearts: From the New World-Played, rank
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars-Played, rank
Star Ocean: The Second Story-Played, rank
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time-Played, rank
Skies of Arcadia-Played, rank
Secret of Mana-Played, rank
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters-Played, rank
Tales of Destiny-Played, rank
Tales of Eternia-Played, rank
Tales of Phantasia-Haven't played, rank
Tales of Symphonia- Haven't finished, rank
Tales of the Abyss-Played, rank
Vandal-Hearts-Played, rank
Valkyrie Profile-Played, rank
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria-Played, rank
Wild ARMs-Played, rank
Wild ARMs 2-Played, rank
Wild ARMs 3-Played, rank
Wild ARMs 4-Played, rank
Wild ARMs 5-Haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F-Haven't finished, rank
Wild ARMs XF-Played, rank
Xenogears-Played, rank
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht-Played, rank
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose-Played, rank

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts- Haven't played, rank
Radiant Historia- Haven't played, rank
Tales of Vesperia-Played, rank
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation- Haven't played, don't rank
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum- Haven't played, don't rank
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road- Haven't played, don't rank
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy- Haven't played, abstain.
Cthulhu Saves the World- Haven't finished, rank
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana- Haven't played, don't rank
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny- Haven't played, don't rank
Parasite Eve- Played, rank
Dragon Quest V- Played, abstain.
Star Ocean: First Departure- haven't played, don't rank
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice- Haven't played, don't rank
Valkyria Chronicles- Played, rank
Pokémon Black, White- Haven't played, don't rank
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra- Played, don't rank
Suikoden Tactics- Haven't finished, don't rank
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning- Played, abstain
Suikoden Tierkreis- Haven't played, abstain
Final Fantasy II- Haven't played, don't rank
Final Fantasy XIII- Played, rank
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance- Haven't played, don't rank
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift- Played, rank
Final Fantasy XII- Haven't played, don't rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne- Played, don't rank
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 09:45:07 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 09:15:15 PM »
Unless otherwise noted, I have played everything on the list and wish to keep all of it.

These games I have not played, but wish to keep them as well.


Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Grandia III
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Suikoden IV
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF


The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Tales of Vesperia
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning
Suikoden Tierkreis
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
FF4:TAY - I played it, it was called Final Fantasy 4. BAZINGA! (I have not really played TAY)
« Last Edit: February 19, 2012, 07:37:05 PM by Nephrite »

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 09:38:00 PM »
The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad - played, unrank
Arc the Lad 2 - played, rank
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits - haven't played, abstain
Breath of Fire - played, rank
Breath of Fire II - played, rank
Breath of Fire III - played, rank
Breath of Fire IV - played, rank
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter - haven't played, abstain
Brigandine - played, abstain
Chrono Cross - played, rank
Chrono Trigger - played, rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga - haven't played, abstain
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - played, rank
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories - haven't played, rank
Dragon Quest VIII - haven't played, rank
Dragon Warrior IV - played, rank
Earthbound - played, rank
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword - played, rank
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones - played, rank
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - played, rank
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - haven't played, rank
Final Fantasy - played, rank
Final Fantasy III - haven't finished, rank
Final Fantasy IV - played, rank
Final Fantasy V - played, rank
Final Fantasy VI - played, rank
Final Fantasy VII - played, rank
Final Fantasy VIII - played, rank
Final Fantasy IX - played, rank
Final Fantasy Tactics - played, rank
Final Fantasy X - played, rank
Final Fantasy X-2 - haven't played, abstain
Grandia - played, rank
Grandia II - played, rank
Grandia III - haven't played, rank
Golden Sun - played, rank
Legend of Dragoon - played, rank
Legend of Legaia - played, rank
Legaia 2: Duel Saga - haven't played, rank
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom - played, rank
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - played, rank
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete - played, rank
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete - played, rank
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis - haven't played, rank
Mega Man X: Command Mission - haven't played, rank
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen - haven't finished, abstain
Persona - played, rank
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - played, rank
Persona 3 - haven't played, rank
Persona 4 - haven't played, rank
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow - played, rank
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal - played, rank
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald - played, rank
Phantasy Star - played, unrank
Phantasy Star II - played, unrank
Phantasy Star IV - played, rank
Suikoden - played, rank
Suikoden II - played, rank
Suikoden III - haven't played, rank
Suikoden IV - haven't played, rank
Suikoden V - haven't played, rank
SaGa Frontier - played, rank
Seiken Densetsu 3 - played, rank
Shining Force - played, rank
Shining Force II - played, rank
Shadow Hearts - haven't played, rank
Shadow Hearts: Covenant - haven't played, rank
Shadow Hearts: From the New World - haven't played, rank
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - played, rank
Star Ocean: The Second Story - played, rank
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time - haven't played, rank
Skies of Arcadia - haven't played, abstain
Secret of Mana - played, rank
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters - haven't played, abstain
Tales of Destiny - played, rank
Tales of Eternia - played, rank
Tales of Phantasia - played, rank
Tales of Symphonia - played, rank
Tales of the Abyss - haven't played, rank
Vandal-Hearts - played, unrank
Valkyrie Profile - played, rank
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria - haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs - played, rank
Wild ARMs 2 - played, rank
Wild ARMs 3 - haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs 4 - haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs 5 - haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F - haven't played, rank
Wild ARMs XF - haven't played, rank
Xenogears - played, rank
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht - haven't played, rank
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose - haven't played, rank

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts - haven't played, abstain
Radiant Historia - played, rank
Tales of Vesperia - haven't played, rank
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - played, don't rank
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum - played, rank
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road - played, abstain
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy - haven't played, rank
Cthulhu Saves the World - played, rank
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana - haven't played, abstain
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny - haven't played, abstain
Parasite Eve - played, don't rank
Dragon Quest V - haven't played, rank
Star Ocean: First Departure - played, rank
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice - haven't played, rank
Valkyria Chronicles - haven't played, abstain
Pokémon Black, White - played, rank
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra - haven't played, abstain
Suikoden Tactics - haven't played, abstain
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning - played, rank
Suikoden Tierkreis - played, rank
Final Fantasy II - played, don't rank
Final Fantasy XIII - haven't played, abstain
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - played, don't rank
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift - played, rank
Final Fantasy XII - haven't played, don't rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - haven't played, don't rank

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 11:54:52 PM »
Just going to bold what I've played.  Italics if I played part of it (not that this useful).  Assume that I want to rank / don't want to unrank things unless explicitly mentioned.

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts - don't rank
Radiant Historia
Tales of Vesperia - don't rank
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve - don't rank
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles - don't rank
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning
Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II - don't rank
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy XII - don't rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - don't rank
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 03:21:05 PM by Talaysen »

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 12:35:26 AM »
To save myself some time, by default, I have played everything, and want to keep everything ranked. Strikethrough means I haven't played it, or have played it so little that I generally don't vote on it.

I may weigh in on rankability later. For now, treat this as support for everything I've played, and abstain on everything I haven't.

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits

Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2: I've played about 15 hours of this, so I kinda can vote, but I don't like to.
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3
Persona 4

Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II

Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
: 7 hours on this one or so, again with the not voting.
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts
Radiant Historia
Tales of Vesperia
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White

Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning

Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy XII
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne

Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
« Last Edit: February 20, 2012, 12:11:15 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 12:36:47 AM »
Starred are games I think should be removed. Bold are games I've played.

Arc the Lad*
Arc the Lad 2*
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits*
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Brigandine*
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV

Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2*
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III

Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia*
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom*
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen

Persona*
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment*
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald

Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana*
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny*
Tales of Eternia*
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts*
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4

Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose


The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts- No.
Radiant Historia- Yes.

Tales of Vesperia
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum-No
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy- ???
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra- Probably would be fine but I hate it so I just cross my arms.
Suikoden Tactics- ???
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning
Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy XIII- Yes.
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
- These two aren't very interesting in the DL, so probably not.
Final Fantasy XII
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 02:38:22 AM »
Dhyer: Ah.  Yeah, I'm not looking to do characters, just games as a whole.  If there's interest, I guess going back to the ancient well and holding something akin to Contenders Rankings might be worth looking into, but for now I'm more interested in seeing what people have played and are comfortable voting on, so as to have an up-to-date picture of what's well played and people like seeing.
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 09:39:32 AM »
Played most things, want to keep voting on most things in random tourneys.
Italics = Not Played
*Asterisk = Would rather not vote on it often/Don't Rank

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits *
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter *
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2 *
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia *
Legaia 2: Duel Saga *
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom *
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission *
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona *
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment *
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star *
Phantasy Star II *
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny *
Tales of Eternia *
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts **
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts
Radiant Historia
Tales of Vesperia
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation *
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure *
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning *
Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II *
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance *
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy XII (Boss rank!)
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (Dante rank!)


Write-ins:
FF4 After Years
La Pucelle Tactics
Disgaea 4
Lost Odyssey
Ar Tonelico
Radiata Stories
Valkyrie Profile DS
Sands of Destruction
Vagrant Story
Crisis Core Final Fantasy
Legend of Zelda Link to the Past
Ys 1&2 (What? They have stat topics now! I've never seen the problem with SoloRPGs being ranked. Average stats but lots of tricks is fun!)

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 05:42:56 PM »
Just gonna list things I haven't played or things I think should be unranked.
The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits: Unrank have played it
Brigandine
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Legend of Dragoon
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona 2
Phantasy Star II: Unrank have not played it
Suikoden IV
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Vandal-Hearts
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht


For this I'm gonna go through each and say whether or not I played it and my thoughts on it being ranked.
The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts Played abstain
Radiant Historia Played Rank
Tales of Vesperia Played Rank
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation Not Played abstain
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum Played Rank
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road Played abstain
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy Played Rank
Cthulhu Saves the World Played Rank
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana Not played Don't Rank
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny Not played Don't Rank
Parasite Eve Not Played abstain
Dragon Quest V Played Rank
Star Ocean: First Departure Played Don't Rank
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice Not Played abstain
Valkyria Chronicles Not Played Abstain
Pokémon Black, White Played Abstain
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra Not played Don't rank
Suikoden Tactics Not played Abstain
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning Played Rank
Suikoden Tierkreis Played abstain
Final Fantasy II Played Don't rank
Final Fantasy XIII Played Rank
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Played Rank
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift Played Rank
Final Fantasy XII Played abstain
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Played Don't Rank

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 07:00:07 PM »
Djinn: Ohh, FFIV-2.  Yes, Indeed.  LO is still picking up from the long years of neglect due to 360ness, but I could see it recovering in due time.  The rest are games I considered but rejected as ones that have some fans but never really enough.

Are people thinking of unranked games as ones they'll never ever see again?  Please don't.  Instead, think of them as games you're as likely to see as Final Fantasy Tactics as a 'good draw'.

Anyway, I'll be Editing Final Fantasy IV: The After Years into the giant list.  If folks could edit that into their lists, that'd be aces.
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 06:42:07 AM »
My own votes, not totals.  Those will be much more clearly marked.  Also I'm hoping for more responses from regular voters (Dhyer, Snowfire, Snow, CT?  Y'all lookin' in?)

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad- Unplayed, Unrank
Arc the Lad 2- Unplayed, Unrank
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits- Played, Unrank
Breath of Fire- Played, Rank
Breath of Fire II- Played, Rank
Breath of Fire III- Played, Rank
Breath of Fire IV- Played, Rank
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter- Played, Rank
Brigandine- Partial, Unrank
Chrono Cross- Played, Rank
Chrono Trigger- Played, Rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga- Played, Rank I guess.
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness- Played, Rank
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories- Played, Rank
Dragon Quest VIII- Played, Rank
Dragon Warrior IV- Played, Rank
Earthbound- Partial, Unrank (seriously, half you people haven't played this.)
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword- Played, Rank
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones- Played, Rank
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance- Played, Rank
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy III- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy IV- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy V- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy VI- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy VII- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy VIII- Played, rank
Final Fantasy IX- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy Tactics- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy X- Played, rank
Final Fantasy X-2- Played... ah, looks like an Unrank
Grandia- Played, Rank
Grandia II- Played, Rank
Grandia III- Played, Rank Xorn Twice
Golden Sun- Played, Unrank
Legend of Dragoon- Played, Rank
Legend of Legaia- Unplayed, Unrank
Legaia 2: Duel Saga- Partial, Rank
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom- Unplayed, Unrank
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals- Played, Rank
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete- Played, Rank
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete- Played, Rank
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis- Played, Rank
Mega Man X: Command Mission- Played, Rank
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen- Unplayed, Unrank
Persona- Unplayed, Unrank
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment- Played, Unrank, expect more NR~
Persona 3- Played, Rank
Persona 4- Played, Rank
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow- Played, Rank
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal- Played, Rank
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald- Played, Rank
Phantasy Star- Unplayed, Unrank
Phantasy Star II- Unplayed, huh.  Unrank
Phantasy Star IV- Played, Rank
Suikoden- Played, Rank
Suikoden II- Played, Rank
Suikoden III- Played, Rank
Suikoden IV- Played, Rank
Suikoden V- Played, Rank
SaGa Frontier- Played, Rank
Seiken Densetsu 3- Unplayed, Rank, sigh
Shining Force- Unplayed, unrank
Shining Force II- Partial, Rank
Shadow Hearts- Played, Rank
Shadow Hearts: Covenant- Played, Rank
Shadow Hearts: From the New World- Played, Rank
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars- Played, Rank
Star Ocean: The Second Story- Played, Rank
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time- Played, Rank
Skies of Arcadia- Played, Rank
Secret of Mana- Unplayed, Rank
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters- Played, Rank
Tales of Destiny- Unplayed, Unrank
Tales of Eternia- Played, Unrank
Tales of Phantasia- Played, Rank
Tales of Symphonia- Played, Rank
Tales of the Abyss- Played, Rank
Vandal-Hearts- Partial, Unrank
Valkyrie Profile- Played, Rank
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs 2- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs 3- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs 4- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs 5- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F- Played, Rank
Wild ARMs XF- Played, Rank
Xenogears- Played, Rank
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht- Played, Rank
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose- Played, Rank I suppose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts- Played, Don't Rank, ;_;
Radiant Historia- Played, Rank
Tales of Vesperia- Played, ?
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation- Played, Don't Rank
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum- Played, Rank... I think
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road- Played, ?
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy- Played, Rank
Cthulhu Saves the World- Played, ?
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana- Played, Don't Rank
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny- Played, Don't Rank
Parasite Eve- Played, ?
Dragon Quest V- Played, ?
Star Ocean: First Departure- Played, Don't Rank
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice- Played, Don't Rank
Valkyria Chronicles- Partial, Don't Rank
Pokémon Black, White- Played, Don't Rank
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra- Played, Rank, smite super
Suikoden Tactics- Played, ?
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning- Played, Don't Rank
Suikoden Tierkreis- Played, Don't Rank
Final Fantasy II- Played, Don't Rank
Final Fantasy XIII- Played, Rank
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance- Partial, Don't Rank
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift- Played, Edit- Rank
Final Fantasy XII- Unplayed, don't rank
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne- Unplayed, Don't Rank
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years- Unplayed, ?
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2012, 12:58:37 PM »
It's much easier for me to just keep what I've actually played in the list, since I think there's a lot more I've not played. ;o
Bold is anything I'd not rank. Italics have extra notes.

Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga ~ I've played DDS2, and use that for anyone in that game. Still fine.
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness ~ I've.. played some. Probably not enough to vote, though.
Dragon Quest VIII ~ As above..
Dragon Warrior IV ~ ..and again!

Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics ~ Haven't played enough again.
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2 ~ Shaky on this one. I could see bosses, but not PCs, which goes against the current rankings, so... Unrank, on the whole, but I could see arguments.
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time ~ Not enough again~. Also I hate SO3 stat topic, pain. :(
Tales of Symphonia
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria


Kingdom Hearts - hrrrnnngh. Again, not really sold on this. From what I've seen, it's basically +1 Godlike, everyone else is crap because Sora exists.
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny ~ Again, barely played. Like, an hour on this one. :|
Dragon Quest V ~ Probably enough to vote here, but not completed. For what I've seen, it's fine.
Pokémon Black, White ~ Depends on having the votebase. I'd support it, personally, though.
Final Fantasy II - Just no. Since everything relies on PC stats, there's literally nothing that can be ranked here without huge interp issues.
Final Fantasy XII - Leaning no for the above reason, but it's a little less awkward than FF2 so I could be swayed here. I'd have to look into it, which I'm not up for doing now. :|

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 03:56:10 AM »
Hoping to put together a tourney soon, so putting up some results!!

So, some notes on the counting process I used.

- Each game was judged in two dimensions, Played/Not Played and Rank/Don't Rank.
- Prevailing opinion was in favor of ranking things whenever reasonable.  As such, unless explicitly noted otherwise, all votes of Played were also counted as votes to Rank, while votes of Not Played were considered as abstains in the rank/don't rank criteria.
- I decided games had to have above 50% in both catagories to be considered as ranked.  Currently, there are 10 votes, so this means each game must have 6 players to remain ranked, and less than 5 votes of Don't Rank.
- Additionally, each game must have 5 votes to be Ranked.  This matters more in the not currently ranked games, where there was much abstaining among players.

The raw list, small-size, in case pepole want to check my math or something.

Arc the Lad-  Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiii    boot- iiii 
Arc the Lad 2 Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank-  iiiiii  boot- ii 
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- i   boot- iiiii
Breath of Fire Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Breath of Fire II Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii   rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Breath of Fire III Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Breath of Fire IV Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiii   boot- ii 
Brigandine Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iii   boot- ii 
Chrono Cross Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Chrono Trigger Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- iiiiii   boot-   
Dragon Quest VIII Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank-  iiiiiiiii  boot-   
Dragon Warrior IV Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Earthbound Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- iiiii   boot- i 
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy III Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy IV Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy V Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy VI Played- iiiiiiiiii   Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy VII Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy VIII Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy IX Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy Tactics Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy X Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy X-2 Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii   rank- ii   boot- iiiii 
Grandia Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii  boot-   
Grandia II Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Grandia III Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Golden Sun Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiii   boot- i 
Legend of Dragoon Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Legend of Legaia Played- iiiiii Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiii   boot- iiii 
Legaia 2: Duel Saga Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- iiiiiii   boot- i 
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- iiiii   boot-  iii
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-     
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Mega Man X: Command Mission Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot- i 
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- iiiii   boot- i 
Persona Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiii   boot- iii 
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iii   boot- iiii 
Persona 3 Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Persona 4 Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii    boot-   
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Phantasy Star Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iii   boot- iiii   
Phantasy Star II Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank-    boot- iiiii
Phantasy Star IV Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Suikoden Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Suikoden II Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Suikoden III Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Suikoden IV Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed-  iii rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Suikoden V Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
SaGa Frontier Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Seiken Densetsu 3 Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Shining Force Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiii  boot- i 
Shining Force II Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Shadow Hearts Played- iiiiiiiii Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Shadow Hearts: Covenant Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Shadow Hearts: From the New World Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars Played- iiiiiiiiii  Unplayed-   rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Star Ocean: The Second Story Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time Played - iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Skies of Arcadia Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiiii   boot-   
Secret of Mana Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot- i 
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiiiii   boot-   
Tales of Destiny Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- iii   boot- iii 
Tales of Eternia Played- iiiiii  Unplayed-  iiii rank- iiii   boot-   iii
Tales of Phantasia Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- iiiiii   boot-   
Tales of Symphonia Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Tales of the Abyss Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Vandal-Hearts Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiii   boot- iiii 
Valkyrie Profile Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs 2 Played- iiiiiiiii  Unplayed- i  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs 3 Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs 4 Played- iiiiiiii Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs 5 Played- iiiii  Unplayed-iiiii   rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F Played- iiiii Unplayed- iiiii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Wild ARMs XF Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   
Xenogears Played- iiiiiiii Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose Played- iiiiiiii  Unplayed- ii  rank- iiiiiiiii   boot-   

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- ii   boot- iiii
Radiant Historia Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiiii   boot-   
Tales of Vesperia Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiii   boot- i 
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- ii   boot- iiii   
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiii   boot- ii 
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road Played- iiiii  Unplayed-  iiiii rank- i   boot- i 
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiii   boot-   
Cthulhu Saves the World Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiiii   boot-   
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- ii   boot- ii   
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- i   boot- iii 
Parasite Eve Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- i   boot- ii   
Dragon Quest V Played- iii  Unplayed- iiiiiii  rank- ii   boot-   
Star Ocean: First Departure Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- ii   boot- iiii 
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice Played- iii  Unplayed- iiiiiii  rank- iii   boot- ii 
Valkyria Chronicles Played- ii  Unplayed- iiiiiiii  rank- ii   boot- ii 
Pokémon Black, White Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- ii   boot- ii 
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iiii   boot- ii 
Suikoden Tactics Played- iiiii  Unplayed- iiiii  rank- ii   boot- i 
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iii   boot- ii   
Suikoden Tierkreis Played- iiiiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- iii   boot- i 
Final Fantasy II Played- iiiiii  Unplayed-  iiii rank- i   boot- iiiiiii   
Final Fantasy XIII Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiiiii   boot-   
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- i    boot- iiii   
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- iiiii   boot   
Final Fantasy XII Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiiiii  rank- i   boot- iiiii   
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Played- iiiiiii  Unplayed- iii  rank- ii   boot- iiiii   
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years Played- iiii  Unplayed- iiii  rank- ii   boot-   


But more importantly, the current list of games considered Ranked.

Arc the Lad 2
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Cthulhu Saves the World
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Warrior IV
Dragon Quest VIII
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Golden Sun
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Legend of Dragoon
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Persona
Persona 3
Persona 4
Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium
Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow
Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Radiant Historia
SaGa Frontier
Secret of Mana
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Skies of Arcadia
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille Zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

If I haven't failed at math, that's 79.  We seem to have cut more games than we ranked, but that's okay I think.

If more people want to weigh in, that's certainly alright, I can pretty easily add new votes and tweak the list.  But for now, one really really weird exception aside, looks good.  Hopefully I can get a tournament up and running using this list in the next week.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 06:16:44 PM by Cmdr_King »
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 02:04:23 AM »
Bolding things I've played. I'll explicitly mention something if I wish to unrank it.

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad - Unrank
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits - Unrank
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter

Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger

Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories

Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III - Do Not Rank
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics

Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2

Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III

Golden Sun - Do Not Rank
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga

Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis

Mega Man X: Command Mission - Do Not Rank
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona
- Do Not Rank
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3
Persona 4

Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal

Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V

SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3

Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose


For Here, Do Not Rank it unless explicitly mentioned!

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts - DNR. Too much fighting.
Radiant Historia - Rank this if it forces more people to play, then good!
Tales of Vesperia - Rank it. Fanboyism overwhelms my good sense.
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum - Rank it. It's pokemon.
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
- Rank it. Fanboyism. Reason, etc...
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny

Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning

Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy XIII

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy XII
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 02:08:02 AM »
No need to update the list right away, but sure why not I'll comment.

Strikethrough: Not played.
Bold: Played, don't rank.
Nothing: Played, rank.
Italics: Extra comments.

Arc the Lad
Arc the Lad 2
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Brigandine

Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Golden Sun
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden

Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Skies of Arcadia
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs 5
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F

Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts
Radiant Historia
Tales of Vesperia
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation

Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy
Cthulhu Saves the World
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny
Parasite Eve
Dragon Quest V
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black, White
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra
Suikoden Tactics
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning
Suikoden Tierkreis
Final Fantasy II

Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift - PCs are a huge no for me with how FFTA2 skills work.  It's easy to imagine Orlandu sitting in his base class the rest of the game and knowing his skillset.  It's basically impossible for Luso to sit in Soldier forever without leaving ability points on the floor, and there's no particular reason to identify him with that, etc.
Final Fantasy XII Uh rankable for me but not really CK-rules rankable, since there's only uh Larsa and *maybe* Cid who are reasonable ranks, make of that what you will.
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years


Mildly relevant write-in: Sands of Destruction.  Yes the cast is absolutely insane in the DL, but eh, P4 Souji got ranked, and Taupy pushes almost everyone else to be below average speed, so that's something.  (There are a few other potential write-ins that I know won't make it in, but this one is vaguely borderline so sure I'll mention it.)
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2012, 06:38:24 AM »
Bold = Keep ranked/Rank
Strikethrough = Unrank/Don't rank
Regular = I don't have an opinion
Underline = wrote in
Played/Played partially/Unplayed is listed inline
I'm assuming any listed unranked games which I haven't played that are in serieses which have ranked entries are rankable

The List of Ranked Things

Arc the Lad - Played partially
Arc the Lad 2 - Unplayed
Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits - Unplayed
Breath of Fire - Played
Breath of Fire II - Played
Breath of Fire III - Played
Breath of Fire IV - Played
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter - Played
Brigandine - Unplayed
Chrono Cross - Unplayed
Chrono Trigger - Played partially
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga - Unplayed
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - Played
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories - Unplayed
Dragon Quest VIII - Unplayed
Dragon Warrior IV - Played
Earthbound - Played
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword - Played
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones - Played
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - Played
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Unplayed
Final Fantasy - Played
Final Fantasy III - Unplayed
Final Fantasy IV - Played
Final Fantasy V - Played partially
Final Fantasy VI - Played partially
Final Fantasy VII - Played
Final Fantasy VIII - Played
Final Fantasy IX - Played
Final Fantasy Tactics - Played
Final Fantasy X - Played
Final Fantasy X-2 - Unplayed
Grandia - Played
Grandia II - Unplayed
Grandia III - Unplayed
Golden Sun - Played
Legend of Dragoon - Played
Legend of Legaia - Played
Legaia 2: Duel Saga - Unplayed
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom - Played
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - Played
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete - Played
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete - Unplayed
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis - Unplayed
Mega Man X: Command Mission - Unplayed
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen - Played
Persona - Unplayed
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - Unplayed
Persona 3 - Played
Persona 4 - Played
Pokémon Red, Blue - Played
Pokémon Yellow - Unplayed
Pokémon Gold, Silver - Played
Pokémon Crystal - Unplayed
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald - Played
Phantasy Star - Played
Phantasy Star II - Played
Phantasy Star IV - Played
Suikoden - Played
Suikoden II - Played
Suikoden III - Played partially
Suikoden IV - Unplayed
Suikoden V - Unplayed
SaGa Frontier - Unplayed
Seiken Densetsu 3 - Played partially
Shining Force - Played
Shining Force II - Played
Shadow Hearts - Unplayed
Shadow Hearts: Covenant - Unplayed
Shadow Hearts: From the New World - Unplayed
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - Played
Star Ocean: The Second Story - Played
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time - Unplayed
Skies of Arcadia - Played
Secret of Mana - Played partially
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters - Unplayed
Tales of Destiny - Played
Tales of Eternia - Unplayed
Tales of Phantasia - Played
Tales of Symphonia - Played
Tales of the Abyss - Unplayed
Vandal-Hearts - Unplayed
Valkyrie Profile - Played
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria - Unplayed
Wild ARMs - Played
Wild ARMs 2 - Played
Wild ARMs 3 - Unplayed
Wild ARMs 4 - Unplayed
Wild ARMs 5 - Unplayed
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F - Unplayed
Wild ARMs XF - Unplayed
Xenogears - Played
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht - Unplayed
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose - Unplayed

The List of Potentially Ranked Things

Kingdom Hearts - Unplayed
Radiant Historia - Played
Tales of Vesperia - Unplayed
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - Played
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum - Played
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road - Unplayed
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy - Unplayed
Cthulhu Saves the World - Unplayed
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana - Unplayed
Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny - Unplayed
Parasite Eve - Unplayed
Dragon Quest V - Played
Dragon Quest VI - Played
Star Ocean: First Departure - Unplayed
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice - Unplayed
Valkyria Chronicles - Unplayed
Pokémon Black, White - Played
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra - Unplayed
Suikoden Tactics - Unplayed
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning - Unplayed
Suikoden Tierkreis - Played
Final Fantasy II - Played
Final Fantasy XIII - Unplayed
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - Played
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift - Played
Final Fantasy XII - Unplayed
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Unplayed
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - Unplayed
Sword Of Mana - Played

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2012, 11:02:58 PM »
I'll be referencing some current player data in the coming weeks, so I'm parsing it out a bit to aid people in making informed voting decisions.  Also I'm hoping it encourages more data to be added in.

Decisively Ranked- Barring major changes to current player data, these games are here to stay.  Might wanna play them.

Arc the Lad 2
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Cthulhu Saves the World
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Warrior IV
Dragon Quest VIII
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Golden Sun
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Legend of Dragoon
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona 3
Persona 4
Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium
Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow
Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Radiant Historia
SaGa Frontier
Secret of Mana
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Skies of Arcadia
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille Zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose


Current Bubble Games- These games are currently up for an up/down ranking vote at the end of the season.

Brigandine (7/13)
Legend of Legaia (8/13)
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom (7/13)
Mega Man X: Command Mission (7/13)
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy (7/13)
Persona (7/13)
Phantasy Star (8/13)
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters (7/13)
Tales of Eternia (7/13)
Tales of Phantasia (7/13)
Vandal-Hearts (8/13)
Tales of Vesperia (7/13)
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra (8/13)
Suikoden Tierkreis (7/13)
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning (7/13)


Decisively Unranked- This list will also include New Ranks that failed the playership cut, but are close enough that one or two new players could put them over the top.

Arc the Lad (High ranking opposition)
Arc the Lad Twilight of the Spirits (High ranking opposition)
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories  (4/13)
Earthbound  (6/13)
Final Fantasy X-2 (High ranking opposition)
Legaia 2: Duel Saga (6/13)
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (6/13)
Phantasy Star II (5/13)
Tales of Destiny (6/13)
Wild ARMs 5 (6/13)
Wild ARMs Alter Code F (6/13)

Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road (6/13)
Parasite Eve (6/13)
Dragon Quest V (6/13)
Suikoden Tactics (6/13)

Rejected New Ranks- These games have either high ranking opposition or would require significant player pushes to make the cut.  As such, I'm not considering them for future ranking without strong evidence that these issues are sorted out.

Kingdom Hearts
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
Atelier Iris 2: Azoth of Destiny
Star Ocean: First Departure
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Valkyria Chronicles
Pokémon Black/White
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy XII
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 10:14:37 AM »
Huh, what the hell, I'll throw in my comments and/or played list.  Assume I'm in favor of everything listed unless I explicitly say otherwise.

On the Decisively Ranked stuff:

Arc the Lad 2 - unplayed
Breath of Fire - played
Breath of Fire II - played
Breath of Fire III - played
Breath of Fire IV - played
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter - partially played
Chrono Cross - played
Chrono Trigger - played
Cthulhu Saves the World - unplayed
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga - unplayed
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - unplayed
Dragon Warrior IV - played (both NES and DS) - aside: I would strongly recommend using the DS stats going forward
Dragon Quest VIII - mostly played
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword - played
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - played
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - played
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - played
Final Fantasy - played, all versions
Final Fantasy III - played, both versions
Final Fantasy IV - played, all versions
Final Fantasy V - played, all versions
Final Fantasy VI - played, all versions
Final Fantasy VII - played
Final Fantasy VIII - played
Final Fantasy IX - played
Final Fantasy X - played
Final Fantasy XIII - played
Final Fantasy Tactics - played
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift - unplayed
Golden Sun - played
Grandia - played
Grandia II - played
Grandia III - played
Legend of Dragoon - unplayed
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - played
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete - played
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete - played
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis - unplayed
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen - played
Persona 3 - played
Persona 4 - played
Phantasy Star IV: End of the Millennium - played
Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow - played
Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal - played
Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald - played
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum - played
Radiant Historia - unplayed
SaGa Frontier - played
Secret of Mana - played
Seiken Densetsu 3 - played
Shadow Hearts - unplayed
Shadow Hearts: Covenant - unplayed
Shadow Hearts: From the New World - unplayed
Shining Force - partially played
Shining Force II - unplayed
Skies of Arcadia - played
Star Ocean: The Second Story - played
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time - played
Suikoden - played
Suikoden II - played
Suikoden III - partially played
Suikoden IV - unplayed
Suikoden V - unplayed
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - played
Tales of Symphonia - played
Tales of the Abyss - unplayed
Valkyrie Profile - played
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria - unplayed
Wild ARMs - played, would unrank in favor of ACF
Wild ARMs 2 - played
Wild ARMs 3 - partially played
Wild ARMs 4 - unplayed
Wild ARMs XF - unplayed
Xenogears - partially played
Xenosaga: Der Wille Zur Macht - unplayed
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose - unplayed

On the current bubble games: Assume I'm abstaining on anything I haven't played unless I say otherwise, and assume I'm in favor of everything I have played unless I say otherwise.

Brigandine (7/13) - unplayed
Legend of Legaia (8/13) - played
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom (7/13) - played
Mega Man X: Command Mission (7/13) - unplayed
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy (7/13) - unplayed
Persona (7/13) - played
Phantasy Star (8/13) - unplayed
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters (7/13) - partially played, don't see any reason it shouldn't be ranked
Tales of Eternia (7/13) - partially played, should rank
Tales of Phantasia (7/13) - partially played, should rank, but I'm not certain whether to use SNES or PSX as basis
Vandal-Hearts (8/13) - played
Tales of Vesperia (7/13) - unplayed
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra (8/13) - unplayed
Suikoden Tierkreis (7/13) - unplayed
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning (7/13) - unplayed

On the decisively unranked: Again, assume I'm abstaining on anything I haven't played unless I say otherwise, and assume I'm in favor of everything I have played unless I say otherwise.

Arc the Lad (High ranking opposition) - unplayed
Arc the Lad Twilight of the Spirits (High ranking opposition) - unplayed
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories  (4/13) - played, but would rather see Disgaea 4 DLC forms of the characters ranked I think
Earthbound  (6/13) - played
Final Fantasy X-2 (High ranking opposition) - partially played, not sure how to rank and Yuna/Rikku want their X forms
Legaia 2: Duel Saga (6/13) - unplayed
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (6/13) - partially played, would rank
Phantasy Star II (5/13) - played
Tales of Destiny (6/13) - played
Wild ARMs 5 (6/13) - unplayed
Wild ARMs Alter Code F (6/13) - played, would rank this over original Wild Arms

Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road (6/13) - never even heard of it
Parasite Eve (6/13) - played
Dragon Quest V (6/13) - mostly played
Suikoden Tactics (6/13) - unplayed

And on the rejected: my comments will be a bit more detailed here, in general.

Kingdom Hearts - played, and I wouldn't rank it.  Too much drama potential IMO.
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - mostly played.  I'm not sure ranking it adds anything interesting.
Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana - unplayed
Atelier Iris 2: Azoth of Destiny - unplayed
Star Ocean: First Departure - unplayed.  I do have it and plan to play it sometime, just :effort:
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice - partially played.  I think nearly all the PCs from this have Disgaea 4 DLC forms that I'd rather see.
Valkyria Chronicles - unplayed
Pokémon Black/White - played.  It's a Pokemon game; on the other hand, it has significant power creep compared to the first four generations and would, if included with the rest of them, would throw off averages for the older Pokemon.  I would lean towards ranking it in a vacuum, i.e., calculating averages based on Unova Pokemon only, and conversely calculating averages of gen 1-4 pokemon without including the Unova Pokemon.  But if that's too much trouble just leave it out.
Final Fantasy II - played.  Stat system is poorly documented, and in general it's hard to call what appropriate stats for the PCs would be, but if those hurdles can be jumped I'd like to see it ranked.
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - unplayed.
Final Fantasy XII - played.  My gut instinct is that if you rank this at all, the only sane way to rank it is based off the Zodiac Job System version, but I'm not sure how you'd pick which of the 12 available jobs is most suited to each PC.
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - partially played, not sure what to say about it.
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years - played.  I'd actually lean toward including this over the original FF4, but working out all the bosses would be a heck of a lot of effort.  Definitely in favor of seeing it ranked, but by definition it would probably make FF4 Classic unranked.

On that note: what do people think about Disgaea 4?

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »
I.e. when I get unlazy for things I shouldn't do at work. I'll support anything in the list unless noted otherwise.

The List of Ranked Things The Hipsterthedral has played

Arc the Lad - Don't rank
Arc the Lad 2
Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Brigandine
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior IV
Earthbound
Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy X
Grandia
Grandia II
Grandia III
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia - Don't rank
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
Lufia and the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete
Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis
Mega Man X: Command Mission
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Persona 3
Persona 4
Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow
Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal
Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald
Phantasy Star - Don't rank
Phantasy Star II - Don't rank
Phantasy Star IV
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Suikoden IV
Suikoden V
SaGa Frontier
Seiken Densetsu 3
Shining Force
Shining Force II
Shadow Hearts
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
Secret of Mana
Soul Nomad & The World Eaters
Tales of Destiny - Don't rank
Tales of Eternia - Don't rank
Tales of Phantasia - Don't rank
Tales of the Abyss
Vandal-Hearts
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild ARMs
Wild ARMs 2
Wild ARMs 3
Wild ARMs 4
Wild ARMs: Alter Code F
Wild ARMs XF
Xenogears
Xenosaga: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga: Jenseits von Gut und Bose


The List of Potentially Ranked Things the Hipsterthedral has Played

Kingdom Hearts - Don't rank. While I like a fair bunch of the duellers (Donald! Sora! Ariel! Peter Pan! Jack Motherfucking Skellington.), the game is as duelling-unfriendly as they come.
Radiant Historia - This was ranked already, wasn't it?
Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation - Don't rank. Such a duelling trainwreck in a really broken way, and I'm not sure the playership justifies it.
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, Platinum - Rank. Apathetic about 4th generation, but I don't feel any ill will towards Pokémon in general.
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow-Brick Road - Abstain. I -like- the cast as a general duelling thing, but low playership and eeeeeeew Oz.
Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy - Rank. Sorta wanted to abstain on it because of the pathsplit (I don't like how non-Raze path stuff suffers in the voting department), but I really like this duelling cast.
Cthulhu Saves the World - Ranked.
Parasite Eve - Don't rank. Woohoo Aya.
Dragon Quest V - Rank. sure why not
Star Ocean: First Departure - Abstain. Completely apathetic about this.
Xenosaga: Also Sprach Zarathustra - Don't rank. So much ill will against this, even though I like a few of the duellers (XS3 MOMO is one of the coolest things ever in terms of how broken she is when she gets a turn, even if she sucks in Heavy because of Rule of Tim to the max)
Breath of Death VII: The Beginning - Abstain. Solely because of low playership.
Final Fantasy II - Don't rank. Jesus christ just say no.
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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2012, 04:24:40 PM »
On that note: what do people think about Disgaea 4?

My kneejerk is that it's too new right now and that if you put it up for a vote -now-, it'll get a lot of negative feedback and never have a chance. Flipside: it's better-played already than Dis2/3 and has more interesting skillsets than either.

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Re: Bookkeeping! Or how CK makes a bunch of pointless work for himself
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 06:52:31 PM »
On that note: what do people think about Disgaea 4?

My kneejerk is that it's too new right now and that if you put it up for a vote -now-, it'll get a lot of negative feedback and never have a chance. Flipside: it's better-played already than Dis2/3 and has more interesting skillsets than either.

Probably right on both counts.  I mostly thought of it because the majority of Disgaea 1-3 PCs have a Disgaea 4 form (as DLC or otherwise), and most likely the overwhelming majority of the PCs from 1/2 in particular would be more interesting as their Dis4 forms due to the presence of Evilities. 

It's more or less the same view I have on handling FF4, now that After Years exists; ranking After Years would more or less obsolete classic FF4 for ranking IMO, as a number of classic FF4 characters (Kain, Edge, and possibly Edward come immediately to mind) are substantially improved in their After Years forms, and very few if any got worse (weapon competition might hurt Cecil a little bit).