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Super Mario Brothers (Enemy topic)
« on: March 12, 2012, 01:48:12 AM »
Here it is, the most useful stat topic ever.


Goomba
1 HP
Susceptible to Physical, Magical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Koopa Troopa
1 HP
Cannot be killed by Physical damage, Paralyzed by Physical damage, recovers after 1 turn.
Susceptible to Magical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Paratroopa Koopa
2 HP
Flying, loses Flying attribute at 1 HP (attacked with Physical damage)
Cannot be kill by Physical damage, Paralyzed by Physical damage, recovers after 1 turn.
Susceptible to Magical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Piranha Plant
1 HP
Stationary
Immune to Physical damage.
Susceptible to Magical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox
Hide: Ducks into its Pipe, unable to be targeted, but cannot attack while hidden.

Bullet Bill
1 HP
Flying
Immune to Magical damage.
Susceptible to Physical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Buzzy Beetle
1 HP
Immune to Magical damage.
Cannot be killed by Physical damage, Paralyzed by Physical damage, recovers after 1 turn.
Susceptible to Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Cheep-Cheep
1 HP
Flying, Aquatic
Aquatic version immune to Physical damage.
Susceptible to Physical (Flying only), Magical, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Blooper
1 HP
Aquatic
Immune to Physical damage.
Susceptible to Magical damage, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Spiny
1 HP
Immune to Physical Damage
Susceptible to Magical Damage, and Starman ID.
Attack 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox

Lakitu
1 HP
Flying
Susceptible to Physical, Magical, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox
Spiny Throw: 50% PCHP damage, ranged attack. Summons a Spiny minion.

Hammer Bros
1 HP
Susceptible to Physical, Magical, and Starman ID.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox
Hammer Throw: 1-3 shots of 50% PCHP damage, ranged attack

Bowser
5 HP
Immune to Physical Damage, cannot face ID in-game.
Attack: 50% PCHP damage, Small Hitbox
Firebreath: 50% PCHP damage, ranged attack (avoids counters since he can attack from off-screen!)
Hammer Throw: 5 shots of 50% PCHP damage, ranged attack


Woohoo. Cast full of Physical/Magical spoilers, with Hammer Bros and Bowser able to do something like 150% PCHP damage.

for lulz:
Mario
2 HP
Jump-stomp: 1 dmg, physical. Paralyzes Shelled enemies (Koopa Troopas, Paratroopas, and Buzzy Beetles.)
Fireball: 1 dmg, magical, fire-elemental. 2 dmg to Winged enemies (Paratroopas)
Starman: Instant Death attack, gives Mario complete damage immunity for duration.


This topic is serious business.

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Re: Super Mario Brothers (Enemy topic)
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 02:02:09 AM »
Your enemy damage scaling is off. Mushrooms are clearly a form of buff, and while I'm somewhat happy to scale that against things, it shouldn't be -assumed- given you have to find one, and often that's not an option (particularly if you die in 8-4, matters for Bowser). So yeah, enemy damage is certainly better than 50% PCHP. Not sure how much better exactly, though. I'd generally assume Mario's HP to range somewhere between 1 and 2, probably closer to 2 normally but closer to 1 in stages where no mushrooms are present (8-1, 8-4).

Also, finally, a non-RPG stat topic about a worthwhile game

EDIT: Also, I might argue that, based on paratroopa evidence, that fireballs in fact do 2 damage (and thus that Bowser has 10 HP). You could also argue, however, that Paratroopas always have 1 HP, but physical damage fails to kill them and removes their wings. Maybe that makes more sense. I like both interps more than them being weak to fire/magic though, which doesn't make much sense.

Yet another note! Given Cheep-Cheeps can be killed by physical damage, it's clear that Mario simply does not possess the "Jump-stomp attack" underwater. Thus it would be prudent to say that Bloober's physical resistance is indeterminate, much like Bowser's ID resistance.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 02:09:24 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Super Mario Brothers (Enemy topic)
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 05:25:04 PM »
I think it's also a bit of a stretch to assume that Mario can't jump on it = physical immunity. Nearly every enemy can be killed by having a koopa (or beetle) shell thrown at it, which is pretty physical to me!

Also just because stuff doesn't face status or ID at that point in-game generally doesn't mean they get a free pass on it, I think a fair amount of those people let those holes go through anyway (and pretty sure hacked Starman in >>>> Bowser for instance).

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