The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => Tournaments => Topic started by: Meeplelard on March 10, 2009, 06:05:47 AM
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First off, the very nature of this tournament requires lots of spoilers, so read at your own discretion. There are some potential ones in this very post in fact! Its hard to identify specific scenes without spoiling what happens so yeah.
Yeah, we've done best music a few times, best...screw it, you get the idea.
So why not "best scenes in video games?" This isn't limited to RPGs, but it has to be a Video Game. It can be an Anime Cutscene in a game (though, cannot be a scene taken from some movie and incorporated directly like many licensed games do; that's cheating!), random text, whatever, it just has to be a scene!
However, there is a small catch with this stuff.
As we know, there's many different reasons to like scenes. Sometimes, you like them for completely different reasons and the end result is you can't compare the two. Its like trying to compare the movie Shawshank Redemption, a well done, serious movie (IMHO anyway) to something like Robin Hood Men in Tights, a really awesome movie purely on its humor merits. It doesn't work! The two are good for completely different reasons, and its hard to justify one over the other for that reason.
(replace those two movies with whatever you want, and you get the idea <_< )
So that's where I came up with this idea of categories! Match scenes of the same "Style" against each other, so they're running off at least some similar criteria. I came up with 4 Categories as a result. They are the following:
NOTE: Examples are more just random things that portray the STYLE of the scene; you need not agree if they're good or not.
Serious
Scene is genuinely good at portraying its point, cause its effective, powerful, etc. Just really well done drama or whatever you wanna call it.
Example: This Ferid and Arshstat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oPI9HXWdVI) scene from Suikoden 5
Stylish
Scene is good or memorable only cause it looked SO DAMN COOL. Basically, nothing much has to happen in the plot, it just needs need to look cool or whatever. Its a scene that you remember for basically "shallow" reasons.
Example: Just about any freaking Devil May Cry 3 Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtiXwvni6ng)
Humor
Self explanatory; the scene makes you laugh and is silly. Note this is INTENTIONAL humor. The nature of the scene was meant to be funny. Basically, if its funny for reasons like "Horrible voice acting!" or "are they...really taking themselves seriously?" it does not belong in this category. It needs to be actually trying for humor, or at least, not trying to be totally serious (if its a case of just being intentionally cheesey, by which I mean doesn't make you laugh, but still fun to watch, mind, it can still go in this category.)
Example: Garan's Pillow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDkq0CTNG8) of Shadow Hearts 2
Awesome For All The Wrong Reasons
A scene ends up being great for...reasons it was not intended for. This can be for whatever reason; basically, they "screwed up" so badly that the scene is awesome on so many levels. I think the example explains this better than I ever could.
Example: MEGA MAN PLOT!!!'s Crowning Moment of Awesome! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LISmPmdUhYA&feature=related)
Note that cause we have other tournaments being held or something, I won't be holding this immediately, but I figured it couldn't hurt to get the idea out on the table, so people can think of scenes to use, and ideally, have time to find links to videos of them to allow more people to vote (of course, some scenes are wasted, primarily in the "Serious" category without knowing the context or characters in question, but it still helps reminding people of it.)
As for rules of nomming...
-Cannot use a game more than once for a category. You can use a game 4 times, once for each category, if you want.
-I'm not sure the exact limit on noms per category, so for now, I'll say "start with 10"; you can nom as few as you want
-Be sure to specify which category you're nomming it for. Just call the 4th Category "Wrong" if you want Shorthand <_<
-Be clear with the scenes you nom, naturally. If you can be clear with avoiding spoilers, even better! If you can provide a link to the scene for Youtube or something to indicate exactly what scene you're nomming, that'd be ideal!
-The Examples I showed above *CAN* be used for Noms, so don't think just cause I hand picked them arbitrarily you can't nom them; I just needed SOMETHING to work for examples.
Like I said, It'll be a while til I actually bother to roll pools. Note that for games that don't have high playership here, I urge you to find some way to portray that scene; otherwise, we get battles with no votes <.<
(also, since I'm running the tournament, I won't be nomming anything)
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Serious:
T-elos/KOS-MOS confrontation in XS3 final dungeon.
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Serious:
Terranigma: Ark leaves Crysta for the first time.
Humor:
Sam & Max Freelance Police: Abe Lincoln Must Die!: The presidential debate.
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Serious:
PS4: Her Last Breath
Teo McDohl's Death, and the open statement of how Tir learns spells.
Stylish:
Duck Hunt Dog Mocking you
Awesome for all the Wrong Reasons:
Gremio's Death
Lulu's Death also fits here.
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Serious:
Ferid and Arshtat scene-S5
Finding Elena-BoF4
Celes's Suicide Attempt-FF6
Events leading up to the Eye of Valmar fight-Grandia 2
Persona 4-end of final battle
FE Radiant Dawn- Michaiah's catch 22 in the second half of part three. This whole scenario really stuck with me and is probably my favorite FE plot development. The blood pact was kind of ridiculous, but it was interesting to see how Michaiah and the others reacted. She had to fight dirty just to survive and it was made better because you knew what her team was up against and you knew it would kick her team's ass.
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I fully intend to fill these categories up. Just give me a bit of time!
Serious
Nanako dying (P4)
Arrival of the final dungeon (SHC) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9vJusOO4jU&feature=related
The Revelation of XS3...you know the one (XS3...duh)
Stylish
Opening (L4D) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF1HVlcXBmA
"Succeeding you, father!" (WC3) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eVne-kYhn4&feature=related
Gig (SN)
Final final sequence of fighting in FF7CC (FF7CC) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BheU4MyJUwA&feature=related (this is loooooong, but the only one I could find in English...it starts around 18 minutes...about 28 minutes in is the second fight...it finishes around 32 minutes in...basically, I'm trying to hype the stylish interactive ending >_>)
Humor
The Love Hotel (P3)
Parabellum Bar Scene Pre-pathsplit (P2)
Robo Rat (P1)
MR. SNAIL (ES) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NkrX_h6Rms (ETERNAL SONATA STORY HYPE!!!!)
Awesome For All The Wrong Reasons
Sea Mother (SH1)
Manos Steals the Crystal (FF4)
Master-D Exploding Head (BC)
Hell Temple Treasure (La-Mulana)
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Serious:
The Miracle (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)
gg tournament
EDIT:
Humor:
Nelsha & Ratchet catfight (Thousand Arms)
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Serious
Shadow Hearts 2 Good Ending -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggc_quwY8fI this links to part 2 as well.
Humor
Man Festival - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsHIAoTgZM
I'll think of more later.
Awesome for all the Wrong Reasons
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrqmPZspojo
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Serious:
Soul Nomad - Raksha's Big Reveal!
FFX - Force Yourself to Laugh, and Maybe Eventually You'll Really Feel Like Laughing (Minus Voice Acting, I suppose, but the point of this scene really sticks with me for some reason).
FFT - Delita and Ovelia's Fate.
Valkyrie Profile - Yumei's Story
Stylish:
Shadow Hearts 3 - Opening Horror Movie Scene and "Johnny Meets Shania"
Lufia 2 - Dekar's Triumphant Return... And He's Made A Lot of New Friends!
FF9 - Garnet and Eiko summon Alexander.
FF12 - Balthier and Fran 'I can't die, I'm the leading man!'
Humor:
Disgaea - Aramis' Ultimate Zombie Recipe!
Tales of the Abyss - Anise and Natalia discuss the Secret of Van's Power.
WA5 - The Day the Shovel Died.
Soul Nomad - 'I can't stand dealing with idiots. She makes me want to punch kittens.'
All the Wrong Reasons:
Golden Sun - Metal Gear Isaac
Lufia 2 - 'You Little Hoochees'
FF4 - 'Spoony Bard'
Star Ocean 3 - It's All a Game - No really, an MMORPG!
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Serious
Shadow Hearts: Covenant: Necromancer Yuri (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIuo6s5_YeM) - This scene gets me every time :'(
Stylish
Shadow Hearts Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeklRPEgcWE) - It's only a flesh wound!
Humor
Persona 4: The camping trip from HELL! - One of the best laughs I've had in a long time.
All the Wrong Reasons
Intro to King's Field 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWtMD6LReSU) - The writing may be bad, the sound quality worse, and the graphics are poor by today's standards, but that narrator deserves some kind of award.
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I'd like to nominate the conclusion of the Opera scene in FF3 for being goddamn hilarious. Falling out of the rafters, Locke improvising terribly, and then Setzer showing up, all wrapped up with the Impressario... hyping a sequel?
For serious scenes, I must nominate Harold's telling of him and Richard Grey's exploration to the source of the mutants. It's beyond a doubt the best voice acting I have ever heard. Anyone who disagrees has never heard it. There's something about the way Harold says anything, even laughs, that inspires a strange reaction I have never experienced elsewhere. It just sounds so much more... tired than anyone else.
Stylishly? The Battle of the Wrathgate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO0RAcxZQ4M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO0RAcxZQ4M)
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Humor:
P4 camping trip from hell
ToV: Yuri and Judy break Karol in a way that only years of therapy can heal.
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Serious
Sui2 - The good ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVW-CaMfeA8
BK - The major plot twist - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO-VAwDjhlU
Stylish
FF8 - The Garden Takes Off - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9_z4TWuYlg#t=1m35s - 1:35 - 3:30
TWEWY - The last strike against Draco Cantus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2-pT2622TY#t=1m55s - 1:55 on - having trouble finding a video which isn't taped or horribly resized
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Humor Nods
Persona 4 - The Omelette Incident. The Mystery Food X incident (camping trip from hell) is good too, but I feel this deserves a nod. I'd nom the Culture Festival, but that just needs to be experienced firsthand instead of youtubed.
Xenosaga 2 - Plot cosplays Tales healer and inflicts 44x weakness on Albedo with Nurse
Mana Khemia - The Roxis Love Life Espionage Incident (a.k.a. his fourth character quest).
Serious Nods
Suikoden 5 - Arshtat's talk with Freyjadour after he inspects Lordlake. While there are more impactful scenes, this one conveys Arshtat's struggle with madness rather powerfully.
Xenosaga - Cherenkov's backstory scenes. Visceral and incredibly effective at what they convey. Too bad the series never even tried to achieve that kind of elegance again, deciding to focus on KOS-MOS cockshots and figuring out blatant ways to make Shion look sluttier instead.
All The Wrong Reasons Nods
Digital Devil Saga 2 - Sera enters the center of the internet and turns into Hello-Tranvestite Valkyrie. The ending is stupider, but this is the sum of DDS2's trainwreck value concentrated into a single, absolutely hysterical scene.
Mega Man X Command Mission - KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF AIEL'S SOUL
Special Downright Embarassing Scenes Nods
Xenosaga 2 - Shion failing it up with Cecily and Cathe.
Xenosaga - Jr. and Albedo go Whitney Houston on each other at the Song of Nephilim.
Tales of the Abyss - ANISE BACKSTORY SCENE. Yeah.
Persona 3 - Ikutsuki's SHOCKING REVALATION into "I would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids and stupid dog" scene.
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1. Scenes of Drama
"You are... my living legacy", Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII- C'mon, it's meeple's tournament. This was going to get in. I may as well be the one to nom it.
The Oath, Shadow Hearts: Covenant- This would be the train scene. To me, it's really the emotional climax of the game, where Yuri realizes what he wants to do and what he needs to do. Simple, great use of music, just a stellar scene and probably the single strongest reason SH2 is a 10/10 on the CK scale.
"By your powers combined, I am EMO JESUS", Persona 3- Okay, title aside (I couldn't resist), this would be the lead up to and battle with Nyx (as distinct from Nyx Avatar). Cheesey, to be sure, but lines like "Yeah, I'm willing to give my life too!!" spoken with the conviction and in the scenario presented here? Powerful shit.
Demon Path, Battle 1. Soul Nomad- For all the depravity and compete-monster-ness in the demon path in general? The personal attrocities in the first damn battle were, frankly, the only truly gut-wrenching action there. Everything else had a sort of caustic, "a million is a statistic" villainy to it.
The Oath, Final Fantasy VIII- So in the middle of the big climatic battle between Gardens, someone figures out that a mercenary school acutally wasn't the best equipped to take out the entire military force of a nation. Cue the hapless antisocial 17 year old someone decided for no dicernable reason to put in charge actually living up to the trust thrust upon him, mustering up the authority and courage to get his people back on their feet and ready for a full out charge letting him sneak into the enemy headquarters. This scene, more than any other, is why there's a running joke about the third and fourth discs of FFVIII being another game, summing up all the serious character writing poured into Squall in about 2 minutes.
Tales from Zeboim, Xenogears- The shared flashback between Emeralda and Fei deep in the Lighthouse. It's a very strange scene for the game, because unlike the Lacan flashbacks it feels less like a highlight reel of important life-shattering moments and more a series of moments selected to try and bring to life that era in Fei's history (nothing else in the game really touches on Kim's life). And you get... one determined doctor desperate to preserve the lives around him. It's weird because you get the impression that he's really a fairly regular guy just trying to do what good he can and just maybe have a normal family life with his wife, but the entire world is conspiring against him. It's just very... lonely and understated, and really stands out among the background of the rest of Xenogears.
"On Teitra's Soul, I swear to you...", Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions- Delita's scene of ultimate sexiness, whispering sweet nothings of love and peace in Ovelia's ear after she learns she was never a princess. Just a well done scene and a sharp contrast of humanization for the ever-manipulative and driven Delita.
"We will live without... false hope.", Final Fantasy X- This stands out as the moment Yuna stopped being a Yamato Nadeshiko selflessly trying to make the rest of the world happy and started being a badass with spine made of raw awesome who was going to save the world or dying trying. It doesn't really sound like that much of a shift, but it's... huge, and the sort of stealth development that FFX really thrived on.
"Where's your honor?!", Suikoden V- There's like eleventy billion other scenes in SUikoden V that are good too, but I think other people are nomming stuff like "Back off, mortal!" so I'll hit this smaller scene. Anyway, in this (good ending-ruining) scene, the Dawn Army has elected to defend their castle against overwhelming odds against the advice of their omnicient tactician. After this blunder, they still manage to pull back enough troops for a withdrawl... but the enemy isn't going to let anyone go unless they get the leader, Princey. So, while everyone holds the real prince back, Roy takes up the job and... well, it's kinda downhill for him from there.
"I hate it!", Valkyrie Profile- So this scene from the A ending, after succesfully saving Lenneth's body and soul, is interesting. What makes it stand out is that Lenneth in this scene is so entirely out of character... the inflappable Chooser of the Slain is sobbing, inconsolable, rather childishly searching for a lost trinket. The entire thing has Behave Irrationally playing, the theme used for most of the more memorable recruitments, yet despite being exactly the opposite in content (it's the main character returning to life, not a new PC dying to join the party) it manages to have something of the same character, but so much more powerful because of who it is.
2. Scenes of Funny
Gig ending, Female Revya, Soul Nomad- Um... just watch it.
"JADE I'M SORRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!", Tales of the Abyss- speaks for itself.
"Happy Birthday", Koudelka- The sheer cynicism of it is just hilarious.
"Sacre BLEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!", Disgaea 2- Intro half of the Zetta battle.
SHISHIO MEIDO!!, Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume- Post-battle Seraphic Gate recruitment scene for Ailyth. Awesome. (Name is just a meme that spontaneously generated in my head, but I like it.)
Grand Finale?!, Final Fantasy VI- Everything about that story arc is hilariously silly, Ultros is just the icing.
"Everyone knows Edge wants Rydia!", Meeple Fantasy 6- Because dammit, the scene should always have been an Operatic version of FFIV!
Episode 5, Disgaea- More specifically the last fight therein.
Garan's Pillow, Shadow Hearts: Covenant- Well, it needs love and seems that no one else has nommed it!
King's Game, Persona 4- I'm not sure how this went so long without being nommed.
3. Scenes of Awesome
Auron's "This is the time!" speech, Final Fantasy X- Okay, so, this full scene is probably the emotional climax of FFX and could viably fit in every catagory depending on what aspect of the scene you focus on and what sort of person you are, but I figure that the defining attribute of a style scene is getting you fired up and ready to kick some ass, and Auron's part at the end doing just that gets the nod. (okay, so I'll probably end up nomming another part of this scene later.)
"If we get enough speed, we'll create a technobabble effect on the fins, letting the ship jump!", Xenogears- So, there's this unidentified enemy that just took out the entire fleet of the inexorable army. He's got your leader so hopelessly outmatch he killed him ten times over just fucking around. What do you do? get your sandcruiser going so fast that you create lift on its steering fins, flying out of the desert and dropping an entire battleship on him. Sure, the scene doesn't end well, but the sheer balls of it as a plan of action concieved in about 5 seconds is magnificent.
Critical-Hit-Back-Attack-Limit-Break: Climhazzard beats Prettboy, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII- ie the scene in which some loser makes sickening crunch sounds involving the most badass man on the planet, a sword that should never be allowed to accumulate wear, tear, or rust, and a tank holding some eyeball boobed thing.
Three Shinra Grunts? Yeah, right. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII- Last Crisis Core nom, promise (also, this nom is a cheat but both feel worthy for such completely different reason I'm not inclined to pick, Meeple can pick which one he ignores). Anyway, the entire ending battle sequence. Normally gameplay stuff would probably be disqualified, but the treatment of the fight is... unique and I think it qualifies. Anyway, the progressive failure to integrate gameplay elements into the fight is impressive, in particular the DMW aspects. This is... honestly a meta thing; it's not a scene of style in context, it's incredibly stylish from a game design standpoint.
Technically illegal nom, but I like the writeup and will be referring to it later, so don't want to outright delete it. However, this nom slot, at Meeple's request, now belongs to...
Stage 1 Intro, Devil May Cry 3- Pizza. Needs no further explaination.
"I wish you would embrace God.", Grim Grimoire- Token non-RPG nod. This is the Heroic Magnificent Bastard, Lillet, in her Crowning Moment of Awesome. Anyway, this is the endgame, although there's another token battle over this and... well, anyone who's played the game know EXACTLY which one I mean.
Assault of the Silver Dragons, Final Fantasy IX- OH FUCK THERE ARE INFINITE DRAGONS. HOLY SHIT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY HELPING THE HEROES?!!?! VALHALLA!!!!!
Allen Ridgeley, Owner of Lamers Xenosaga 3- I tend to think this is self-explainatory. I waffled a bit on placement but I think style works best.
"Geddoe... PAUNCH!", Suikoden III- Nothing quite says awesome than punching out a complete asshat of an NPC who sit on his ass then tries to form a lynch-mob for the one gut in their village who was working to help everyone. For the wrong side, sure, but it wasn't sitting on his ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmCWLu6ccU Kingdom Hearts: re: Chain of Memories- Objectively, this is kinda a standard Badass pulling off Shut Up Hannibal scene. But when you considering just how badlly Riku had been getting owned by such speeches earlier in CoM, and how he completely got suckered in KH1, him suddenly living up to his native competence and ability to kick ass is a hell of a thing.
Lenneth vs Loki, Valkyrie Profile- Despite being a continuous In the Name of the Moon Speech playing off a complete villain Ham? Awesome.
4. Scenes of AWESOME?!!?!
Rasputin's Speech of Ultimate Baby Eating, Shadow Hearts: Covenant- This would be the scene before his boss fight. It goes something along the lines of "Henceforth the world will be indelibly changed in my image! Humanity will live in fear and darkness for thousands of years! And when the last human dies, I'll still be there, Laughing!! Aahaha. Mwahaaha. HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!" It just goes beyond the impossible, through over the top, past cheese, and surpassing even narm, and back into <3
"What is a man!?", Castlevania: Symphonia of the Night- Obligatory. Moving on.
"This ends HYAH! IN-DIG-NAY-SHUN!!", Tales of Phantasia (GBA)- Also obligatory.
Balthasar's Big Reveal, Chrono Cross- Meta; the effect on Niu alone? Priceless, endless hours of entertainment.
"I am the one and only absolute god, VALMAR!!", Grandia II- So the party confronts the evil pope deep within the dark god, and mocks what a pathetic loser he is. And he's all "I AM GOD BITCHES FEAR ME" and then summons up all his power as the Will of Valmar and... turns into a BUTTERFLY WITH A MAN'S HEAD. the scene was kinda supposed to be dramedy-style anyway, because Grandia II in general is, but this sent it straight to Pure Awesome levels of Narm.
"Expand the landmass!" "NO! EXPAND THE SEAS!!" "... ohfuck", Pokémon Emerald- Well, POKEMON PLOT needed in here somewhere. This feels like by far the best candidate.
"NOOOOOO!! GOOOOOOOOOOFFYFYYYYY!!!!!", Kingdom Hearts II- Yeah, they were totally going to kill off Goofy. Who we were totally going to miss. Uh-huh.
"WARMTH AND COMPASSION HAVE NO PLACE IN MY WORLD", Grandia III- Upon consultation with Meeple, we decided that Xorn was probably a so bad it's good entry, because it probably wasn't actually meant to be super-hilarious. But, y'know, is.
LiiiIIIIIIIGHT, Devil May Cry- More memetasticness.
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Serious
- Arshtat & Ferid, basically seconding it. I wept, man, I wept.
- Quistis Confides in Squall. I'm... not sure what about it makes me somehow like it, but I feel it really portrayed Quistis nicely. Maybe I'm too much of a Quistis fanboy.
- "Let Me Show You How Those Marks Are Made, Haseo". Okay, so it's an online game in canon, but at that moment I really felt the "WHAT I AM FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOOR" feel.
- Entiriety of Grim Grimoire, looks so cute and I expect STORYBOOK stories but suddenly BAM SERIOUS BUSINESS STRIKING INTRIGUE AND OH WHAT lovethisgame
- XenoGears Sacrifice of Fei's Mother, because damnit.
- "Ridley kept fighting while looking for you." Suikoden 2, Tinto scene.
Stylish
- Rinoa and Squall Waltz, and if you don't know it you have missed something.
- Opening Scene for Suikoden 5, because it's bjootiful.
- Tantalus Escaping With Their Ship Ablaze, it was memorable.
- FF7 - Juno Under Attack, pewpewpew.
- XenoGears Opening Scene.
Humor
- "So big, so heavy, so shiney, I think I'm in looo~ve~" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iJKgAij18&fmt=18), starts from 2:24, up to 4:10. I love WA5. It's made me laugh so much.
Awesome For All The Wrong Reasons
- "No cloud nor squall shall hinder us!" BADASS.
- Mother Sophia's Sacrifice, which isn't awesome for the wrong reasons, but I figure it fits here because it might be more touching and dramatic than awesome. I cannot help but salute the badass that is this scene. LIVE, LACAN!
- "The Day the Shovel Died". WA5, METEEEEEEEEEEEOR DRIIIIIIIIIIVE.
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Oh shit, I can't believe I forgot the WA5 Shovel scene. If that doesn't get into this tournament, it'll be tragic. *goes to edit noms*
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-edits his to feature in AWESOME scenes-
Because it is so cheesy, lame and stupid that it's so bastardly awesome to deserve two categories.
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Serious
Scenes surrounding Virgil's fights (XS 3)
Mami and the Corronade (BoF 4)
Aira's Arc (Grandia 2)
Stylish
Astaroth possesses Saki (SH 2)
Silmeria is awakened as Hrist chases Alicia (VP 2)
Rose's Flashback to Kadessa (LoD)
Humor
Koudelka verbally owns Edward (Koudelka...guess this generically describes a lot of early scenes though)
Flay's Final Character Quest (MK)
Was thinking of throwing one of the later P1 scenes under serious, but given that they are in late game Persona 1, they might be a bit obscure.
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Drama:
1. Luca Blight's last stand, S2
2. Tricia's demon path plot arc, Soul Nomad
3. Ferid dies, S5
4. Kato owns Nicholai, SH2
Stylish:
1. "I want you to embrace God!", Grim Grimoire
2. PE's opening
3. The birth of Alkaiser, SaGa
4. Jack and Ridley flee Radiata City, RS
Humor:
1. Ryudo calling Selene a bloodthirsty bitch, G2
2. Cauldron's handling of Marona haters, PB
3. Momo gets dissed by a dragon god, BoF3 (I had the same reaction Rei did there)
4. Aira calling the wind god a whore, DW7
Trainwreck:
1. Any scene with Emelious, G3
2. Alys dying. I laughed. Gooooooo Zio!
3. Erikia gives Lyon the stone, FE8
4. Chu-Chu on a cross, XG
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Drama:
1. Jowy says goodbye to his wife (Suiko2)
2. Milennia's speech regarding the Eye of Valmar (Grandia 2)
other people are nomming the whole arc, it seems. it's fine with me to roll this into that.
3. Flashback to Nibelheim. Great mood of creeping apprehension. (FF7)
4. Ft. Zeakden (FFT) lots of fights in games you want to win. I can't think of any more than this one you want so badly the other guy to lose.
5. Geddoe's 'oh by the way guess what I have on my hand' scene (his conversation with Joker). understatedly awesome, which sums Geddoe up nicely. (Suiko3)
Stylish:
1. Rydia saves your ass. Badass. (FF4)
2. Clive verbally pwns Melody (WA3)
3. Heat Reappears (you know which time) (DDS2)
4. Ramza duels Weigraf (FFT)
5. Chess Battle. Hell, the whole 'honey I shrunk the party' arc. (SF2)
6. "What's that you say? Nel's been captured and is being held in a fort guarded by a whole army? Ok, well, guess we'll go waltz through the front door and get her back. What? No, it's cool, we're main characters, so we can totally do shit like this." (SO3, ok so I'm paraphrasing)
7. "I'll give you, let's see...10 seconds" (WA3)
Humor:
1. Argilla cosplays as Sera (DDS)
2. Flonne infiltrates the Overlord's Castle (Disgaea nin nin)
3. "BLUUUUUE!" "YELOOOOW!!" (Disgaea again)
4. Night at the Opera (FF6)
5. Man Festival (SH2)
6. The scene with the lever. I'll try and find a transcript because god knows no one's ever played the game. Yes, it is that funny. No, this is not a serious nom. (Wizardry 7)
Trainwreck:
1. "Shit! Rinoa's floating through space! I know! I'll jump out and get her, and...figure the rest out later!" (FF8)
2. Serph reenacts a scene from Alien (DDS2)
Utter Failure:
Someone requested I nom "Your MOM." so.
Miranda ends up with HIM?! (Grandia 3)
"Wow we were all at that orphanage together!"
"I didn't tell you because of some reason" (FF8)
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One last Style post. The collapse of Sector 7. Starting with the boss battle, and ending with the reality tv.
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I would like to second King's Game from Persona 4, and also add the scene during the end of the last battle of Persona 4 where she tries to use Summons to Yomi on your main character.
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For the record there *IS NO UTTER FAILURE CATEGORY*
I was going to save THAT for a surprise but it sounds like Snow jumped the gun and decided to randomly be cute, and argh! So yeah, please stop nomming those.
Also, some of you are nomming a game twice for the same category; BAD! Stop that <_<
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Fine fine, I'll get rid of the second Disgaea scene (once someone else noms it. c'mon, guys!) but I'm keeping my utter fail so I remember it later.
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Serious-
Soul Cradle- Levin is Rasculan and stabs Belvius from the back.- NOTE TO MEEPLE FROM SUPER- Don't click on this, I'll write up a spoiler free version of the scene Niu's talking about.
FF7CC- The entire final battle sequence. Nomura said he put in the reels solely for the purpose of that ending sequence. And you know what, it is a brilliant decision and very much worth it. It really let you feel that Zack is fallign apart. Oh, I also must be thankful to the test players who are not idiots that affirmed Nomura's decision.
Tactic Ogre- Lance pounds Lance verbally on how peasants are completly worthless trash.
AT2- Meul's Cosmosphere Lv.5 the belly stab scene. That made me immediately fell in love with Croah. Good VA made it even better.
SH 2- Half revived Alice in the tube. The scene is just touching, and the good VA helped a lot too.
Drag on Dragoon 2-The cremation of Caim and Angel... it is so very tragically sweet, the music is also well used to draw out the emotion.
LoM- Pokihel and Nunuzac's debate. That scene only delivers the whole point of the game.
XS 3- Virgil's exist. It is so well done from all perspective whether it is one concluding a plot ark, making Virgil look awesome, conveying Takhashi's crazy philosophical thoughts that no one cares about, or what have you.
Suikoden 5- Fake Prince's death.
Stylish-
Drag on Dragoon 2- Caim's entrance. Bodies are torn and flying, how nice.
Drag on Dragoon 2- Men's voice talking loli Manah hordes in the mind world. Technically a fight, but I think it deserves a mention. How the Namless just crawlign out of nowhere surrounding you, and the terrain slowly fades into chaos, then with Manah sounding hysteric and manly... the entire presentation is just grasping and creepy.
Dissidia- Inochi... yume.... kibou.... dokokare kite, dokohe yuku....
.hack G.U.- Haseo vs. Azure Kite
FF9- Alexander vs. Bahamut, FF9 has too many stylish scenes... I'll go with this.
FF7- Sister Ray vs. Diamond Weapon
FF10- "There is no hope", it is just me, but I really like how Yunalesca spit this out. It really left an impact on me.
SH2- Amon vs. Rasputin
LoM- The intro of Heaven's Gate. It really got me. It REALLY got. It seems it predicted the very mood I am in and pounds me with that view and atmosphere.
Thousand Arm- Golda summoning, wow, so Meis actually don't suck.
Xenosaga 3- Voyager's assault on Elsa
Humor-
Marl- "You are old enough to be his mother"
Dissidia- UBOAAAA!!! At last, AT LAST we get to hear it.
It's a Wonderful World- "It's x 2 die" and the rest of Minamimoto math puns.
ToV- Jade and Dist in the hotel room.
Thousand Arm- Nelsha and Ratchet.
P4- Jump. I can't help it, you actually get to have an option to tell Ai to jump really cracks me up.
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You know Niu, I may not be participating in this contest, nor have I read much of your post, but I heard some complaints in chat about Soul Nomad spoilers and stuff. You may want to edit some things before a mod does >_>;
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ToV- Jade and Dist in the hotel room.
is that suppose to be TotA?
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Yes, stupid typo.
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Serious/Nostalgia Moments
SoM - Finding the Mana tree finally.
S2 - Luca Blight's last stand.
FF4 - Paladin scene. Cecil washes out all his sins and is reborn!
FF6 - Coinflip. All the scenes that involve the bros.
Lufia 2 - Wedding day! When I was younger I thought I had beat the game, kinda. I thought I missed something or had gotten one of those "bad" endings at first? Either way that whole scene was awesome.
Lufia - Flowers.
WA - Bye bye arm!
TO - Finding Lans...and the jukebox. Touching.
FFT - Teta's scene. I hated Algus, but that was too much. He got off easy. A good scene if you want to evaluate the pyche of Delita.
PS4 - Alys last stand.
WA - Intro. No other games intro captured me quite like this one. S3 is close, but this is the king of the hill.
Stylish
L2 - Dekar's return. Then again all of Dekar's scene's were pretty boss.
FF6 - Opera scene.
XG - Men of the SEA!
XS - Metal Gear Ziggy
AtL2 - Shu and Tosh team up. Then again, Shu in general for being a Ninja with a Shotgun.
S5 - George Prime. Pick a scene.
Humor
FF6 - Gau dress up party! His "father" is also awesome for all the wrong reasons.
P4 - Plenty of scenes in this one. Camp trip, all the cooking bits, that King game, VOID QUEST!
XG - Chu-Chu on a cross. If this was meant to be serious, it failed.
SRWOG2 - Excellen and Kyo getting caught in the act.
P3 - Beach trip. Seeing the boys fail with women was awesome.
FF7 - Seeing how far Cloud would go in drag.
VP - Badrach's death scene. It was funny to a point I think. That every man, if you look hard enough, has some sort of ounce of redeeming human qualities in them.
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Serious
- FFT: Ramza's end of Chapter 1 schpeel. Damn powerful
- WA4: Arnaud and Raquel share a moment at Frontier Halim. Green Tracks being used there was a super choice
- S5: Death of Arshtat and Ferid.
- VP: Badrach's recruitment scene
- WA: XF: The fear demoness finally dies (spoilers)
Stylish
- Pokemon XD: Anytime Miror B battles you (does that count? He does a funky dances that matches the tempo!)
- SSBB: Captain Falcon jumps out of the Blue Falcon from nowhere and delivers a Falcon PAWNCH to Giant ROB and makes him explode on contact. YESZ
- Star Fox 64: Star Fox 64 Intro. "LET'S ROCK AND ROLL"
- WA3: Clive verbally owns Melody, provind that stylish does not have to be swords and guns alone
- XS3: And likewise, Allen owns Red Wanker verbally
- P3: Thantanos is summoned
- FE8: Leon vs. Eph on Eph path (For FEs? This speech was good)
Humour
- P4: Culture fest. That was a disaster waiting to happen
- MK: Roxis character quest 4. I lol'd >_>
- VP2: DOGLIKE SCENES (wait do these count)?
Awesome for wrong reason
- FFT: Malak's exploding frog scene. For one, its MALAK. For another...well EXPLODING FROG
- Pokemon RSE: EXPAND THE LANDMASS
- MMX4: WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOOUR
- MGS2: "We managed to avoid DROWING" "Good job"
- SF64: "So you're going to attack the enemy base? Great idea, Fox!"
- FF8: RINOA IN SPACE. OH NOEZ
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Reposted
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Abandoned? :'(
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No, its not; I'm just waiting til at least after DLC4 to start working on this.
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ok, I'm finally gonna get off my ass and work on this, so yeah...
Anyway, I'll still give you guys some time to nom things, but by the end of the month, I'm closing this topic.
Also, I have to make things very clear:
You must have access to the scene in a way that can be reasonably linked too. If you can't get the scene, I'm not allowing it. For this reason, you might want to avoid obscura.
After all, its kind of unfair, from whatever direction you look at, if someone lists one scene and most people can't vote on it.
But yeah, finally decided to start working on this again! but because its been a while since I did work on it, I'll start by making noms more open for edits, etc. cause hey, I'm sure there are changes people want to make! And if you haven't nommed already...GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO IT ALREADY! *holds up missile launcher*
Yes, same style as mentioned in first post, which is the 4 categories of:
Drama
Style
Humor
AWESOME!?
And again...
There is NO Failure/Trainwreck category yet, so please avoid mentioning it. This is BEST scenes, not SCENES THAT MAKE YOU WANT TO SHOOT KITTENS.
Oh yeah, please specify SCENES, not a SEQUENCE OF EVENTS. The P4 Culture Fest, for example, is a number of scenes put together (at least 3), and is a bit too long for this. If you want a specific moment from that, by all means. But its kind of unfair for one "scene" when its actually multiple scenes put together, as it has an unfair advantage (note that if the nature of the scene keeps changing Point of View to play off each other, that's different.)
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I'd also like to nominate the scene from Mother 3 where Flint finds out what happened to Hinawa for drama.
Edit: Also DQ8 bar fight scene for comedy.
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Dramatic-
Mercedes' final scene, Odin Sphere. Just such a powerful and compelling end to a story about a Queen who fought and died for her realm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCeuUWkbfYA <- 4:30 to 5:30
Rachel's/Phoenix scene, FF6. Music and atmosphere really sold it.
Aeris' death scene, FF7. Because I think this one has historical significance, at least.
Suikoden V: Ferid/Arshtat's final scenes. Yeah. It's been said.
Final Fantasy Tactics: Delita and Ovelia's final scene. Classic.
Persona 3: The protagonist checks out. Aigis sold this scene for me for whatever reason.
Stylish:
Suikoden 3 Opening hype is down with me.
Devil May Cry 3 uh let's go with Dante catching Lady. That'll work.
Humor:
Yuri and Judy decide that *Karol* needs to be the one to distract the guard, ToV.
Mana Khemia 2: Let's go with Et forgetting that she 'brought' her brother along for the first training session with Flay.
Fire Emblem 9: Ike and Reyson discussing the finer points of what happens when a Heron tries to punch someone in the face.
Valkyrie Profile 2: Brave Silmeria and scaredy-cat Alicia have their 'discussion' about how to proceed at the beginning.
Persona 4: The campout scene by the river, with bathing suits et al. It ends so brilliantly.
FF7: Aeris dresses Cloud up like her personal doll, under the guise of 'helping him get into the love shack'. Come on.
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Ok, adding an addendum cause someone noted that "Find a way to show the video!" might not be feasible in all cases...
If the scene is primarily dialog driven (like many Fire Emblem scenes for example), then merely providing a script of the the game should suffice. True, it'll lose out on factors like music and what not, but that's why I said "primarily dialog driven." Actually, having a script for any scene would work, just remember that sometimes a scene cannot be done total justice based on its dialog alone, so bare that in mind!
Additionally, if the scene is incredibly famous and well known, then you may not have to provide a sequence for it at all or whatever. I don't mean "Half the people know what I'm talking about, so its cool!", I mean scenes damn near everyone has seen, like for example, FF6's Opera.
Basically, I'm just gonna say 'use your better judgment" and if there's no means to represent the scene, bare that in mind that this will be held against it in the tourny; I may still allow it, but something might not get the respect it deserves when people can't vote on it, but can on the other.
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Drama
SHC- Meeting Kato in the cemetery.
BoFIV- Meeting Elina.
XS2- When Young Albedo figures out he can't die.
FF6- Coinflip.
DQ8- Post-Marcello fight where Angelo saves him.
S2- Jowy and Riou team up to kill Gorudo
WA4: "I'll be with you. I'll always support you. If your legs lose their strength, I'll carry you. If your eyes lose their light, I'll describe the world to you..." Arnaud and Raquel in that town that you are at the end of the game.
S5: Ferid and Arshtat
FFT- Delita's Betrayal
MMXCM: NO, YOU ARE THE MAVERICK X
Style
XF- The final boss's first confrontation with Edna.Where Katrina cackles evilly and says "I love the fear coming from you..." and all that.
OB- Final scene of the game, Death Ending http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/c/obdeth.htm
FE10: Tibarn convo with Lekain:
Tibarn: I'm glad I got to you first. See, I heard that the Serenes Massacre was all your doing... That puts you at the very top of the list of the enemies of the bird tribes.
Lekain: That may very well be, but I am under the divine protection of the goddess herself! A shabby sub-human pirate like yourself will find me quite invincible!
Tibarn: As much as I'd love to draw this little chat out, I don't think I can keep my talons out of your neck another instant.
Lekain: Why... Why are you laughing? Are you... enjoying yourself?
Tibarn: Some of us here are just overflowing with the chaos you're causing with this fight. That might be part of it... But, to be honest, there's a part of me that can hardly believe how much fun tearing your head off will be.
Saga Frontier: Asellus's Mystic Ending. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPb64sArzj8 <-- Starts around 5:30
DDS2: "I need to talk to God..." "TALK TO ME."
PS4: Rune's Reveal
World Destroyer Orsted, Live a Live
FFT: Rofel and Dycedarg
Humor
SMRPG: like the moon over the day
my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools
Disgaea: THERE'S NOTHING LIKE DRINKING TEA IN OUTER SPACE!
SHC: Joachim and Ana spying on Yuri and Karin. It's just so absurd.
SO3: Roger in a cage.
MK2: Lily CQ3 (Puni Boobs)
FE8: L'Arachel and Ephraim's supports (A support especially)
CT: Lizard people ending
AWESOME!?
MMXCM: DON'T LAY YOUR HANDS ON AILE'S SOUL
FFX-2: Leblanc needs her back rubbed, Yuna~~~
TotA Asch: LOGIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS
G3: Alfina crying because Emelious is evil like it is a huge surprise after Seiba dies by him killing it
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Noms will be ending by the end of this month! After that, I'll be putting together pools! Anybody who hasn't nommed but wants to, DO SO NOW. Anybody who wants to change their list, now's the time! Also, try to find out ways to display each scene if you haven't done that yet!
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Just summarizing my nominations so they're all in one place.
Drama:
Ferid and Arshtat scene-S5
Finding Elena-BoF4
Celes's Suicide Attempt-FF6
Aira's mom confronts her about the eye of Valmar-Grandia 2 This video has it and the scene lasts until about 4 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7p9r3GbS0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7p9r3GbS0)
Michaiah learns about the blood pact/Michaiah kills Pelleas and Almheda learns about his death-FE10
Flint hears "bad news" about Hinawa- Mother 3
Scene with Lady and Killer right before the final fight-SH3
Humor:
King's Game-Persona 4
Bar Fight-Dragon Quest 8
Wedding-SMRPG
Stylish:
P4 Team protect MC from Summons to Yomi-P4
Awesome?:
Sea Mother-SH1
I think all of these should be fairly easy to find with youtube. I was able to find the one that I thought would be the most difficult and the others are fairly mainstream.
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Noms are closing TONIGHT, at 11:59 EST, March 3rd, etc.
While I won't be around to post a "NOMS ARE CLOSED" thing, that will still be the case. I would close it now, but I figure I should give SOME warning before doing so. If you haven't nommed yet, and want to, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE.
Also, again, no using the same game twice in the same category <_<
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I'll probably forget things, I do that. Also Ciato (I am biased~) and Tide have awesome taste.
Serious:
Galleon's revelations on Ferid and Arshtat (S5) - Obvious.
Death of the final "foe" (WAXF) - First two scenes are probably the only times I've fought back tears in a game, at least in the last decade.
Yuri vs. Ishimura (SH2) - Seriously powerful emotions here.
Pre-Yunalesca scene (FFX) - See Cmdr's comments on Yuna's line there. You could throw the back half of the scene in stylish too, which... I see Cmdr did! Excellent.
Young Albedo's illuminations on death (XS2) - Specifically where he flips out because he realises his brothers will die and he will not.
The Olan/Delita/Ovelia scene in late Chapter 4 (FFT) - FFT plot hasn't aged too well to me but this scene still has tons of power. Really puts the exclamation mark on Delita's character.
Raquel/Arnaud scene in Halim (WA4)
Stylish:
Final boss confronts Edna (XF) - See Ciato
DMC3 opening (DMC3)
Opening (S3) - Different style but sure
Hippopressor's appearance (MMXCM)
Gawn's MISSILE PAUNCH scene (WA4) - Alllmost falls into the "awful" category but it's just so silly.
Collapse of Sector 7 (FF7)
POISON CHIHUAHUA (God Hand)
Humour:
There's nothing quite like drinking tea in outer space! (Disgaea)
End of Chapter 8 (Raze path?, MK2) - Sorta the iconic Flay v2 scene to me. He talks about his releasing a giant monster on the school has built character for all, only to be interrupted by concerned parents who are horrified and or can't find their (presumably devoured) children. And then he foists all responsibility on the spineless Zeppel. Yeah.
Crimean Royal Knight info conversation (FE10) - "The best enemies are the ones that are on fire." Also some awesome interaction between Makalov/Astrid/Marcia as usual. Sadly "I'll sell him to you. Cheap." is in another scene. The CRK really got the best comic writing in this game, see also the Kieran/Geoffrey Silver Axe scene and the Kieran/Oscar Imbue scene. <.<
Cross-examining Moe (PW2) - I probably shouldn't nom it given some of the 2-3 haters but it is the most uproariously funny moment in the series to me and I am only going to nom one
Roger in a cage (SO3)
Awesome:
Aile's sacrifice (MMXCM)
Expand the landmass! (Pokemon (Ruby?)/Emerald)
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOR? (MMX4)
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Serious
-Faith or Fate/Arrival at the Final Dungeon (SH:C)
-Riou/Jowy gain a reason to gank Gorudo (S2)
-The Bad End (P4)
-"Love Lost" Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk 1:35 - 5:01]
-Wander/Dormi (Shadow of the Colussus)
-The Letter, Full Version (Silent Hill 2) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scbtiiSnnmM Audio of the sequence. You're walking down a series of bare hallways. its good enough.]
-Versus Zeno (BoFV)
-The "Bad" End (Where We Remain)
Stylish
-Suikoden 3 Opening Cinematic (S3) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmQoREyleE ]
-Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter Opening Cinematic (BoFV)
-Arthas Returns to Loderon/"Succeeding you, Father." (WC3)
-The Opera Scene (FF3/6)
-Luca Blight's Last Stand (S2)
-Defeat at Ostagar (Dragon Age)
-"In My Restless Dreams, I See That Place..." (Silent Hill 2)
-Sex Talk with Dr. Kaufman (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YdK9L18x_Y 1:23-4:45 Sorry, could only find an LP with it. But the guy is fairly unobtrusive. And German.]
-Dante and his Pizza (DMC3)
-Lucifer Demonstration (DMC4)
Humor
-The Dog Ending (Silent Hill 2) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw ]
-The UFO Ending (Silent Hill: Shattered Memories) [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2SQCWQhAU&annotation_id=annotation_562434&feature=iv 1:35-2:20]
-Dante and Angus (DMC4)
-The Man Festival! (SH:C)
-Omelettes! (P4)
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TOPIC CLOSED or something. No more noms,e tc.