The RPG Duelling League
Social Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: PKNintendo on May 06, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
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So uh, I randomly stumbled upon this site.
(lucky me :D)
Just saying high.
As a user here, I plan to rep Zidane. (Since he's got alot of bad rep. Have you guys READ the battles he fought? They make him seem like a SUPER pervert.
Zidane: geez
I also want to help around some of the lights and middles.
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Good luck with that, sparky
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Well, fresh bloo...er, new users are always welcome. Unless I've lost my mind the writers boards are all public now, so when the results come in feel free to try your hand at writing. Light and Middle especially could always use another hand, since alot of us find those divisions a little boreing and thus harder to write for.
(also, as a warning, I hope you have thick skin. The group as a whole tends to be pretty mockery based(as Trips here just highlighted), though we're usually not being active jerks about it. We mock eachother, ourselves, and everything else that exists as a general rule. Just roll with it and don't take anything too seriously. This is just a hobby, afterall.)
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Considering I wrote most of those, I have read em. Welcome, etc. If you want to help write, go look at the writing board FAQ and feel free to ask questions.
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Okay.
Mockery huh, sounds like a load of fun.
Thanks guys.
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Considering I wrote most of those, I have read em. Welcome, etc. If you want to help write, go look at the writing board FAQ and feel free to ask questions.
And if you step up the Zidane hate just to counter anything PKN writes, I will give you a swirlie at DLC4. <_<
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Howdy PK. I would say something mean and spiteful here, but I've been feeling sick so you get off easy today.
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Considering I wrote most of those, I have read em. Welcome, etc. If you want to help write, go look at the writing board FAQ and feel free to ask questions.
And if you step up the Zidane hate just to counter anything PKN writes, I will give you a swirlie at DLC4. <_<
How could someone hate someone as epic as a Zidane.
And Captain K... Thanks. XD
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The personality given to him is one some people find abrasive (myself, it's just... there; I don't like him, but nor do I hate him).
Also some people here hate heroes that break out into emo song and dance which apparently Zidane does at some point lategame or something? I don't actually remember this so I can't say for sure.
Eh. Iunno. Prepare for, uh, some responses to that question, though.
(oh and hi and stuff)
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Well Zidane does have an emo moment that lasts for all of 15 minutes. I found him to be one of my favorite "goofy hero" types anyways.
Anyways, welcome. Also, don't expect me to be very interesting.
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Hi.
Ugh, I hate people who proclaim that Zidane was Emo.
Zidane has his soul ALMOST taken out his body. He gets an identity crisis, and this conflicts with the fact that he previously learned that he was created to kill. (sucks)
He just wanted to be alone for a while. He undergoes several fights with various teammates.
The kids annoyed him, and in turn he yelled at them. (He called Vivi a brat! :-\)
Later on he realizes that he needs his friends. This part of the game is known as the ''your not alone'' sequence.
He later becomes the usual cheery guy. Heck, even the game designers said that they wanted to make him cheery. People can't hate him for that one scene.
IMO the problem lies from old memories. I JUST beat FF9 last week, and it had many points of the game that conflicted with my memory. (I though Amarant was gotten at Ipsen's castle/you fight him there)
PS: Cloud is not emo, if you played FF7 recently, you will eventually learn his true personality.
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Though I like Zidane well enough myself, you should still never tell people what they can and can't hate. Hate is irrational. One scene, if you dislike it enough, CAN ruin an entire character for you. Doesn't happen to me often, but it's very possible.
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Also, not the main topic, I know, but Cloud most definitely is emo - not because of FFVII (he changes to be pretty awesome by the end of that), but because of AC. They basically took all the good changes they made to Cloud late-FFVII and threw them in a blender before pouring it into a bowl of acid. AC-Cloud would've been good if it weren't for the major focus on "I couldn't save her..." >_>
Oh, and, uh, hi! ^_^
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Your right.
(plays FF6 overworld theme)
I shouldn't force my idea's on others.
That's exactly what this website is about, since characters are VOTED into victory.
So yeah, I hope I didn't offend you guys.
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Your right.
(plays FF6 overworld theme)
I shouldn't force my idea's on others.
I believe you mean "you're" not "your".
(plays imperial march)
I should force my grammar on others.
...Err, silly jokes asside, hi: welcome to the forums!
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I've heard of grammar Nazis, but grammar Storm Troopers?
Terrified. Truly.
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Your right.
(plays FF6 overworld theme)
I shouldn't force my idea's on others.
I believe you mean "you're" not "your".
(plays imperial march)
I should force my grammar on others.
...Err, silly jokes asside, hi: welcome to the forums!
/me refrains from carrying this to its logical conclusion.
Also yeah, remember that we take worth in battle and not plot/story worth. Else W8 would be an obvious Godlike, of course. >_> <_<
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Considering I wrote most of those, I have read em. Welcome, etc. If you want to help write, go look at the writing board FAQ and feel free to ask questions.
And if you step up the Zidane hate just to counter anything PKN writes, I will give you a swirlie at DLC4. <_<
I'm not sure it's possible to step up the Zidane hate at this point. If it is, I haven't done my job as a writer.
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I've heard of grammar Nazis, but grammar Storm Troopers?
Terrified. Truly.
Hey, I don't know any good Nazi music.
Although...maybe I could go with femenazi. Hmm...yeah, Spice Girls are probably scarier than Storm Troopers anyway.
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I've heard of grammar Nazis, but grammar Storm Troopers?
Terrified. Truly.
Hey, I don't know any good Nazi music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0XrTiFiwo
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Hey I'm of the opinion that the Zidane hate around here is silly and overplayed. I liked the guy more than, say, Alex from Lunar 1.
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I've heard of grammar Nazis, but grammar Storm Troopers?
Terrified. Truly.
Hey, I don't know any good Nazi music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0XrTiFiwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqKUjgP4xo
Totally trumps that.
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As the person that writes Zidane a lot:
I don't hate him.
Does he get blown up a lot? Sure, for being a pervert.
Is he a pervert?
Yeah. Pervert, ladies man, etc. Whatever you wish to call it.
Do people react to this in-game poorly with him getting one slap and little/no mockery otherwise?
Yeah. Despite it largely being a comedic trait, the game...doesn't play up the comedy at all.
Do most perverts in RPGs get off this easy?
Sten nearly gets beaten to hell in-game.
Siegfried the unicorn gets more of a reaction out of his crowd.
Edgar has two? three? perverse moments. He gets mocked in every single one of them.
It's not hate; It's the reactions that every other RPG pervert gets.
(My honest opinion is that Zidane is the epitome of a bad main; A protagonist you could remove and have nothing notable change about the game. But that doesn't mean I dislike him. Put him in a secondary role and he'd be inoffensive; He's just got as much real importance to the plot as, say, Amarant. Well, no, he has the romance with Dagger, I suppose that's a bit more than Amarant, but...)
Does Zidane have other, highly notable traits?
Well, he has the thing that makes people call him emo(ehhhh I've never thought of him as emo. I dislike that scene, too out of character, but.).
He also is...generally, blandly cheerful, a trait that maybe half of the minor characters in the DL have, that doesn't make him notable for any writing purposes. One could easily say that I like Zidane, after a fashion; After all, I write him into scenes he has no real place being. Just, as humor.
Zidane's obviously not written quite true to in-game, it plays up his scenes of perversion, and has him have such terrible luck that there's a 60-odd-K linked series of writeups that describes exactly why. (What was that, Season 30? I forget though. It's been a while.) It's just played up for laughs. I've never claimed to be a great writer, just a silly one.
Anyways, my suggestion would be to not go too overboard trying to "reverse" the effect, if that's what you want. Having Zidane suddenly turn into a perfect gentleman who can suddenly slay Ghaleon would be kinda...ah, tacky.
And also, welcome. ^_^
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First off, hi there! I have a sneaking suspicion I know where you stumbled upon this site from as well <_<
Next off...don't take write ups too seriously. Lots of characters get certain aspects blown out of proportion for humor, or just slowly get molded into something they're not for shits over time.
Look at how Albedo, even after XS2 and XS3 showed other sides of him, is still just sort of viewed as a Pedo Psychopath and gets slammed by it in new and creative ways.
These things just kind of happen. I think Zidane did get a few positive moments, though, like I seem to recall there was a whole Behind the Scenes where he didn't do much but mock Vaynard, and generally had the support of everyone else due to this.
In general, if you are not a member of the "Norgard Defense Force", you have not hit rock bottom. Zidane is not a member of this, therefor, he still has SOME remote sense of dignity to hold onto in his write ups. The same cannot be said for the like of Gares though <.<
Exception: Fire Emblem's Black Knight, whose only part of the NDF out of pure pity...which reminds me, I need to get back to what I planned with that <_< >_>
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Haha hey Meeple!
Yeah, Zidane isn't THAT bad off.
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I think what Meeple's trying to say is that -obviously- you need to start crusading for Alonso from Grandia 3... >.>;;
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...I found this site when Google Image searching Galcian from Skies of Arcadia a few years ago. It took me to his records page.
If anything, you should 'crusade' for someone who hasn't been turned into a humorous caricature yet, by doing so for them.
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Well, I don't really care about Alonso to be quite honest...
But I will look into him. (his abuse)
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Eh. The Zidane stuff feels like it's less that people hate him or anything and more blowing up an aspect of his personality for comic effect. If we played everything perfectly straight around here, well, where's the fun in that?
Anyway, welcome to the boards and such. Enjoy your stay. And if you have free time and like video game music there's a nifty little tournament going on right now... </shameless plug>
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Video game... Music?
WHERE!
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http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?board=23.0
If there's a music tournament it's there.
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Zidane killed my parents. That's why I swore revenge by making mocking writeups of him on an internet site.
I'm sorta like Batman.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGp0hCxSg98
Someone asked for Nazi music and this wasn't linked? There's something wrong with you people.
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Welcome. A few ground rules before you being posting in earnest:
You must like:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (and all associated Joss Whedon materials)
The Shin Megami Tensei series
Cute little girls
Food
The science and practice of pharmacy
You must hate:
Final Fantasy Tactics
That's all. Welcome to the cool club!
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I'm afraid you're mistaken OK. This is not the Oblivion Knight Duelling League >_>
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It doesn't matter. You like someone everyone at least enjoys to pick on, I like someone who everyone openly hates.
In any case, Yay! I'm not the "New Guy" anymore!
*dances*
(Hopefully he can bring someone to the DL as special as James, then he can truly take my place!)
Huzzah~
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Welcome. A few ground rules before you being posting in earnest:
You must like:
Balance
Spin~
Spin~
Spin~
You must hate:
Unbalance
That's all. Welcome to the cool club!
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Welcome. A few ground rules before you being posting in earnest:
You must like:
Balance
Spin~
Spin~
Spin~
You must hate:
Unbalance
That's all. Welcome to the cool club!
Does that include balance in the Force?
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Welcome. A few ground rules before you being posting in earnest:
You must like:
Balance
Spin~
Spin~
Spin~
You must hate:
Unbalance
That's all. Welcome to the cool club!
Translation: You must not be like the person who posted this. It is a known fact that Kappas are indeed unbalanced. For a Kappa to be balanced would rupture the very fabric of space and time, in such a way that only the Law of Infinite Meeple could fix.
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I'm afraid you're mistaken OK. This is not the Oblivion Knight Duelling League >_>
Yeah, thank god we changed the name.
</incredibly obscure RPGDL history reference>
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Ohay there PKNintendo.
There needs to be more people who join and actually post stuff. You know. People like like you.
Welcome in any case.
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It doesn't matter. You like someone everyone at least enjoys to pick on, I like someone who everyone openly hates.
In any case, Yay! I'm not the "New Guy" anymore!
*dances*
(Hopefully he can bring someone to the DL as special as James, then he can truly take my place!)
Huzzah~
Come on, nobody's had Kain join the NDF just yet. Even he isn't rock bottom yet. <_<
Also, your combination of avatar and title make me imagine Kain as a gay thief which is really amusing.
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Gate, joining the NDF is a sign of hitting Rock Bottom. You can't hit rock bottom if you start there.
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You know, in a welcome topic for newbies you might want to avoid using too many acronyms without explanation--I mean, I don't know what NDF stands for. >_>
(Not that I'm much of a role model as far as hostessing goes--I think my net contribution to this topic so far has been inadvertently inspiring people to sing about Hitler...).
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Well, he seems fairly well read, so I assumed he already knew about Edge Eblan's Ninja Defense Force.
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Well, he seems fairly well read, so I assumed he already knew about Edge Eblan's Ninja Defense Force.
A Red Herring?
To be fair, a Ninja Defense Force does sound a lot cooler than the actual NDF could ever hope to be...
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I've heard of grammar Nazis, but grammar Storm Troopers?
Terrified. Truly.
Hey, I don't know any good Nazi music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve0XrTiFiwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHqKUjgP4xo
Totally trumps that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYDo9BIeNHg
Just remember, for all that you fail for liking Zidane, you will still trump Super for his Seifer love.
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Well, he seems fairly well read, so I assumed he already knew about Edge Eblan's Ninja Defense Force.
You find new ways to fail. Die.
Just remember, for all that you fail for liking Zidane, you will still trump Super for his Seifer love.
Said the person who writes the giant Seifer bonus matches.
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Mumble mumble kill the poor interloper interloper poverty kill kill kill FIESTA
I mean, Ih. Emoclew ot eht Edwardo Bordello Orlando Kurando ONEOFTHESETHINGSISNOTLIKETHEOTHER
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Oh yeah, we probably should warn you about Zenny, but I guess its too late for that <.<
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FUCKNIG NASCAR FAN
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Eh, Zenny is inoffensive, just loud.
</totallynotbitteroverlosingthewelcomeshenanigans>
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3 Pages?
Epic guys, just epic.
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As the person that writes Zidane a lot:
I don't hate him.
Does he get blown up a lot? Sure, for being a pervert.
Is he a pervert?
Yeah. Pervert, ladies man, etc. Whatever you wish to call it.
Do people react to this in-game poorly with him getting one slap and little/no mockery otherwise?
Yeah. Despite it largely being a comedic trait, the game...doesn't play up the comedy at all.
Do most perverts in RPGs get off this easy?
Sten nearly gets beaten to hell in-game.
Siegfried the unicorn gets more of a reaction out of his crowd.
Edgar has two? three? perverse moments. He gets mocked in every single one of them.
It's not hate; It's the reactions that every other RPG pervert gets.
(My honest opinion is that Zidane is the epitome of a bad main; A protagonist you could remove and have nothing notable change about the game. But that doesn't mean I dislike him. Put him in a secondary role and he'd be inoffensive; He's just got as much real importance to the plot as, say, Amarant. Well, no, he has the romance with Dagger, I suppose that's a bit more than Amarant, but...)
Does Zidane have other, highly notable traits?
Well, he has the thing that makes people call him emo(ehhhh I've never thought of him as emo. I dislike that scene, too out of character, but.).
He also is...generally, blandly cheerful, a trait that maybe half of the minor characters in the DL have, that doesn't make him notable for any writing purposes. One could easily say that I like Zidane, after a fashion; After all, I write him into scenes he has no real place being. Just, as humor.
Zidane's obviously not written quite true to in-game, it plays up his scenes of perversion, and has him have such terrible luck that there's a 60-odd-K linked series of writeups that describes exactly why. (What was that, Season 30? I forget though. It's been a while.) It's just played up for laughs. I've never claimed to be a great writer, just a silly one.
Anyways, my suggestion would be to not go too overboard trying to "reverse" the effect, if that's what you want. Having Zidane suddenly turn into a perfect gentleman who can suddenly slay Ghaleon would be kinda...ah, tacky.
And also, welcome. ^_^
Thanks for the advice, but since when does Zidane get slapped in FF9? IIRC he doesn't. ???
Your kinda of right with the plot thing, But there are a few points where his important. (first Waltz fight, Lindblum ark, the play) He doesn't carry the plot. Like Garnet >>.
Until disk END disk 3 and 4. (The whole genome thing, Bran bal, Kuja being his brother etc)
And don't forget, his pinky finger (and the rest of the cast XD)
serve more plot importance than Quina.
(not that I hate her, but you could take her out and replace with Marcus for an even BETTER plot.)
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When he's climbing up after Garnet very early in the game and reaches too high, I think is one time he gets slapped. Or maybe just his hand slapped. Or maybe my memory sucks. I haven't played the game in years. <_<
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The "Oooh Soft" scene is more responded with a simple kick by Garnet knocking his hand off. He then tries to apologize, and Garnet tries to hold back her obvious fury, which Zidane is quick to notice (something like "Zidane, I trust you!" *she leaves* "...I get the feeling she doesn't quite trust me yet...")
Zidane's pervertedness, in any event, does sort of end late Disc 2, where he and Garnet start actually seriously developing some romance (its around Black Mage village where they have their first real "touching" scene.), so the second half of the game, that aspect of Zidane is almost played down entirely (actually, Eiko's the one who starts acting more like that way, but in a more innocent, child like manner, naturally, and its pretty much entirely centered around a childish Zidane crush.)
For what its worth, Dissidia does toss this aspect of Zidane in, but downplays it some. Its mostly just him making cracks like "I'd rather fight you than have to face a lady" when giving his reasons for tackling Garland over Ultimecia (convenient excuse to get Squall separated from Garland so he can have his rival fight with Ultimecia really <.<) Interestingly enough, I don't think there's a single plot scene where he interacts with Terra...its almost like they PURPOSELY avoided that scenario <_<
The DL does overplay Zidane's pervertedness, but its totally for comic relief value. There are obviously bigger perverts in the DL based off their home game *waves to Zelos*, but Zidane's been around longer than most, and yeah, that aspect of his personality I guess sticks out to people, so he was sort of flanderized that way in the DL.
FOR WHAT ITS WORTH...
I think Sage is downplaying Zidane's role in FF9 some. One thing the game does reflect on in the ending is the way he influenced most of the cast. The whole ending is essentially everyone talking about him and the impact he had on each. The core plot may not be about him until late game, but he definitely was serving an actual purpose besides just being a random PoV.
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You can always count on meeple and his in-depth, speechless... Speeches.
Well said man, well said.
:)
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He'd make a great politician.
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He'd make a great politician.
Oh my god, I hadn't even thought about that, but it sounds scarily true.
Well...he'd need to train himself to talk at 1/3 his normal speed, otherwise he'd have to be a speechwriter and not a speaker himself.
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As long as he doesn't become corrupt. :P
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As long as he doesn't become corrupt. :P
You my friend, are a naive person who has a lot to learn <.<
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What do you mean? :-\
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Exactly.
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I think this topic (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=2811.0) should give some hints as to what I mean </not shameless advertising>
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I think this topic (http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=2811.0) should give some hints as to what I mean </not shameless advertising>
But you aren't corrupt in the slightest... not in Gfaqs nor here...
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You have no idea.
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Is it better not to find out?
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Did you not notice there's a link in "this topic" <_<?
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I don't think it's possible not to find out.
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So you've sculpted your own FF6. No biggie.
So you've taken out pretty much 90% of the cast. Again, no biggie.
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So you've sculpted your own FF6. No biggie.
So you've taken out pretty much 90% of the cast. Again, no biggie.
Dear, you are so, totally obliviousā
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Here I was thinking that I was the "New Guy" instead of Scar. Oh well.
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So you've sculpted your own FF6. No biggie.
So you've taken out pretty much 90% of the cast. Again, no biggie.
I like how this same statement could apply to FF9. Do you see what I did there?
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Man, I've been here for over a year and this dude is going to have more posts than me by the end of the weekend.
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Man, I've been here for over a year and this dude is going to have more posts than me by the end of the weekend.
Talk more!
Alternately, vote on more tournaments in the tournament board ;)
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Randomly swear at people more.
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Trump my fuckhorn, muchango.