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Title: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Jo'ou Ranbu on June 20, 2009, 05:50:07 AM
Godlike:

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN)
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)

Heavy:

Zero (MMXCM) vs Jerin (Lufia 1)
Serge (CC) vs Asellus (Saga)

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3)
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)

Light:

Garet (GS) vs Frank Goldfinger (SH3)
Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6)
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: superaielman on June 20, 2009, 05:56:01 AM
Godlike:

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN)- Fate Storm.
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)- Durability boost from his SH2 fusions should prevent a 2HKO fairly easily, and Citan can't tripleturn Yuri.

Heavy:

Zero (MMXCM) vs Jerin (Lufia 1)- Limit fighters smash Jerin.
Serge (CC) vs Asellus (Saga)- Serge very likely goes first and he 2HKOs easily, Mystic Change doesn't do shit against this kind of offense. I don't allow mystic magic so no tricks there, she can't win with damage... or can she? Deflect is like a 25% chance of evasion and should slow down Serge's offense- she should 2HKO pretty easily herself, and just has to survive Serge's second turn to win.

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3)- Edit: Works for me.
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)- Status.

Light:

Garet (GS) vs Frank Goldfinger (SH3)- Garet's not a light. Status or some nasty form of damage should own Frank.
Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6)- Locke's Valiant Knife damage is better than I thought.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Monkeyfinger on June 20, 2009, 05:59:18 AM
Godlike:

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN)
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)

Heavy:

Serge (CC) vs Asellus (Saga): Serge is below average speed, isn't he? Unless Asellus was slower than I thought she should go first.

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3)
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)

Light:

Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6): Yeah, Super's analysis is about right.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: superaielman on June 20, 2009, 06:00:40 AM
She's a human swordsman, that is a fairly slow build in the DL. My kneejerk is that it's a bit below average, and Serge basically just loses average speed tiebreaks.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Ultradude on June 20, 2009, 06:00:58 AM
No vote this week but

Zero (MMXCM) vs Jerin (Lufia 1)

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Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: Jo'ou Ranbu on June 20, 2009, 06:05:38 AM
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN) - EBO Zophar.
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) - This is my "wow, Yuri's resources freaking suck" vote. He could try something cute with Czernobog MP draining, but that's getting him overwhelmed fast.

Zero (MMXCM) vs Jerin (Lufia 1) - lol healer vs. zero
Serge (CC) vs Asellus (Saga) - Asellus may well go first (both are below average by a bit, I think), and that makes the match not worth thinking about. She probably wins to me even if she doesn't, because she's lapping Serge after Mystic Change and I give her Mystic skills - i.e. at worst she can heal. So yeah.

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3) - Yubana Cover, blistering offense, the works.
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) - Statues.

Light:

Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6) - 3HKOs first with the ITD. Go away, Locke.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: Dark Holy Elf on June 20, 2009, 06:16:27 AM
Godlike:

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN): Yeah.
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs): Sure.

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3): Sleep blocker? I guess. Aroma Materials are no go but I'm pretty sure the game had a specific sleep blocker, and Flay has enough oomph to beat durable bosses in a slugfest.
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC): Champ, it seems!

Light:

Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6): Annnd 3/3 for not agreeing with Super on Locke votes! Locke easily 3HKOs, he'll probably do something like 2200 + 3100 + 4000 = killing Mia. Valiant Knife is cool like that.

Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Dhyerwolf on June 20, 2009, 07:49:09 AM
Godlike:

Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Mewtwo (PKMN)
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs)- Citan may be able to haste-heal his way out of this. Yuri 2 would win though.

Heavy:

Zero (MMXCM) vs Jerin (Lufia 1)
Serge (CC) vs Asellus (Saga)- Uh...

Middle:

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3)- Enough coverage to beat the status whore this week at least!
Gijimu (S2) vs Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC)

Light:

Garet (GS) vs Frank Goldfinger (SH3)- Are Stun and Paralysis actually two different status? Otherwise, Garet doesn't really have an applicable status here, I think.
Mia Ausa (Lunar:SSSC) vs Locke Cole (FF6)- Just 3HKOs first, yeah.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Talaysen on June 20, 2009, 10:15:38 AM
Mana Khemia does have a sleep blocker (sleep/curse blocking accessory to be exact).
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Clear Tranquil on June 20, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
.........

*just kills Locke dead*

Flay Gunnar (MK) vs Beatrice (WA3)- Non Aroma blocker works for me.  :P
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Sir Donald 3.2 on June 20, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Zero vs Jerin.  Yeah.  Black Command Art OHKOs her on Turn 2, and Berserk Protect Force Metal reduces Jerin's Confusion chance to Turn 4, which is way too late.  (FTR, Status Immuning FMs are not storebought nor can be refined from stroebought materials.  Status halving FMs, on the other hand, are storebought.)

Ironically, Jerin would've been one of the few (if not the only) PC that Reno's Pyramid couldn't be used against.  Mirror can do a lot.  It just can't block a sword to the face.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: DjinnAndTonic on June 21, 2009, 11:40:48 AM
*throwing in Locke with plot-claim Pheonix Esper+Spells hype*

Life3 totally owns Mia.  :P
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: James_xeno on June 22, 2009, 01:44:45 PM
Wait! Wouldn't (SS) Mia win this through 'Spillter' and Locke's 78% average magic defense?




Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Jo'ou Ranbu on June 22, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
How many people have played the Sega CD Lunar, though? If she does win through that and you have played that version, feel free to vote that way, it's perfectly kosher! You just can't expect people to vote on a form of a game they haven't played. <_<
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: James_xeno on June 23, 2009, 09:04:17 PM
How many people have played the Sega CD Lunar, though? If she does win through that and you have played that version, feel free to vote that way, it's perfectly kosher! You just can't expect people to vote on a form of a game they haven't played. <_<
I have played it, but at the time of my post I wasn't really sure on the numbers and couldn't look it up to find out. I just wanted to see if anyone knew offhand.

I'm going to go look it up now.



Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: DjinnAndTonic on June 25, 2009, 12:22:36 PM
Though it seems like a weird thing to hype...

I'm curious as to how Serge gets around Asellus with Glass Shield?

I mean, technically, Serge can't use any skills without physically attacking at close range. All Asellus has to do is cast Glass Shield and Serge starts cutting himself on it. Asellus reapplies liberally.

She may not even need Mystic Change...
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Taishyr on June 25, 2009, 12:35:02 PM
People probably only seeing it affecting his first hit. If she tries that, then, he just light hits and then goes back to heavy smashing.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: DjinnAndTonic on June 25, 2009, 02:11:06 PM
I think I'd see it more like cancelling his whole turn.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: Nephrite on June 25, 2009, 04:35:08 PM
Do people see his physicals provoking multiple counters from Fire Emblem characters? I see this as sort of the same situation.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: superaielman on June 25, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
Glass shield cancels full combos in game IIRC, I'd see it stopping everything. Don't think I give Asellus mystic magic though.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: Laggy on June 25, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
Really? Why the heck not? She has the Gift for it; that's legality for like, anyone else...
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: superaielman on June 25, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
She doesn't start with any Mystic magic learned.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robinson.
Post by: 074 on June 25, 2009, 08:40:59 PM
Citan Uzuki (XG) vs Yuri Volte Hyuga (SHs) -- Yeah.  Yuri gets statistical supremacy here.  Citan's inability to triple (or near-triple) Yuri dooms him.
Title: Re: Season 52, Week 4 - Serge discovers middle-aged love! Asellus is Mrs. Robins
Post by: James_xeno on June 26, 2009, 03:29:22 AM

For anyone who's played LSS or can vote on it. (It's a little late to matter much now, I know)

As I first thought. SS Mia wins this with Spillter. She gets 60% healing and does about 13% kill damage from it. (50% and 10.6% base, without Locke's MDef)

If he opts for the Wing Edge and the 20% ID. Mia still 4HKO's him with Byebye Air.