The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => RPGDL Discussion => Topic started by: Jo'ou Ranbu on July 25, 2009, 06:07:08 AM
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1)
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4)
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga)
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars)
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4)
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1)
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT)
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3)
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4)
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1)
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS)
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3)
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Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1) - Yeah.
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga) - TimeLord can OHKO all the forms! Too bad he can't stop form 2 from getting turns.
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars) - He like borderline quinta-turns off the bat. This only gets uglier as Ghaleon hacks down Xorn's HP.
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3) - Massively, massively outheals. Yuki's best chance here lies in an earlygame paralysis weapon, and that's going to make his offense fail beyond all reason.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4) - Faster, stops Chie from charging death due to ITE. Tough.
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1) - Bah humbug.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT) - EDIT: Lede doesn't block Sleep? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FAIL.
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - ... I think ACF just OHKOs and isn't 3HKOed. Could be wrong. WA1 Rudy just fails to OHKO and dies like a girl.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig) - Axl against Middle slugger.
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3) - Heal-lockery.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - No OHKO.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1) - Tempest hits the wrong defensive stat.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2) - ... actually, I think this is right? Jin gets four turns here, so Stock => death actually -works-. Eerie.
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3) - Can chip to some degree.
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1)- FS as ID and not damage.
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga)- Abstaining for now.
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars)- Not as close as you'd expect thanks to how badly Ghaleon is outsped.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3)- No SP.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4)- ITE physicals.
Hildegarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1)- Hilda starts off too slowly here. She has to use curvy to have a ghost of a chance ,and that means Kary is faster. Don't think she can outlast at that point.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT)- Nash damage.
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)- Scythe hates having last strike.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)- Axl eats decent slugging middles like Cador for lunch.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4)- Kneejerk him getting the KO here. It's close either way.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1)- Aguro 3HKOs at worst and I don't think Tempest can do anything about it.
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS)- Chu-Chu.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2)- Jin.
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3)- Laguna damage. His limit's a bad joke, and Alonso can chip past it even without SP.
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1)
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga): Overdrive hits the HP buffering. He has slow, but I don't think I see any of his tricks being able to exploit doubleturns. Maybe triples, but... not happening to Jenna.
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars): He quadraturns constantly. At the very least, that'll get him 4 dark hymns, then 3 dark hymns and a death knell, then 4 dimension gates. All told, a bit shy of 8x PCHP damage there. Defense kinda sorta gives him a chance, but... nah.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4)
Hildegarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1): Goes first and solidly heal locks Hilda. Only way out for Hilda is to open with haste, lap, and hope she gets enough doubles, but the healing costing a lot + the fact that those buffs can wear off probably makes that a dead end.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT)
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3)
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4): Goes first and OHKOs.
Light:
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2): XS2 is really good against healers, right?
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3)
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Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4) - EDIT: Oooor 4-D Pocket doesn't win, and she's slower...
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - WAo probably doesn't have the damage.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4)
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1): Boom.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4): Ick. IQA is so nerfed now.
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga): Splat.
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars): I'm just gonna vote and move right along.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3): Out... stalls, I guess.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4): Survives PC'd Godhand, ignores evade.
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1): I guess? Kary's physical is good enough here.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT): I disrespect Lede's durability that much, yes.
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3): Heal locking or something.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4): I'll call it an OHKO and move along.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1): This fails.
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS): GO GARET!
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2): XS3 works.
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3): Vast difference in quality here.
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Heavy:
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT) - Yeah, I didn't believe my Paralysis hype either. <<
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Hmm... ACF form is averagish HP and Scythe is very close at 3HKOing average HP. Rudy having game-worst Resistance should be enough for Scythe to make it. WA1o Rudy misses the OHKO.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig) - Stealth Mode is kinda mean in a straight, Middle slug-fest.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - Checking the stat topic, Yulie barely survives the OHKO for me. Quicken, instant double, heal, maybe a Protect later for extra insurance, beat up Kraken on every double-turn which should come often, etc.
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Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1) - No vote, but... What happens if one allows Mask of ??? forms here?
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1)
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4)
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga)
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars)
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4)- Chie borderline kills with Auto-Taru fully factored in to the non-Souji average, and I don't fully factor it in.
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1)- At least DoS Kary is decent.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT)
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)- Original doesn't OHKO Scythe
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3)
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4)- Too bad unlike Kary, DoS Kraken is horrid. Gooo upset!
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1)
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS)
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2)- Too bad.
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3)
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1): I'm more comfortable with Fate Storm than I am with Jade anyway. <_<
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars): Sure, I'll bite.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3): Really doubt Yuki OHKOs.
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1): I imagine the heal lock is good enough.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT): Lede doesn't block Don't Act. OR doesn't block Sleep. Either way. I only just realised this now.
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4): WA1o for me. ACF does indeed OHKO easily.
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig): Stealth Mode.
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3): Adray is way worse against fighters than mages.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4): OHKO hype? Kraken does 64% to average. Yulie has 66% pdur.
Light:
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2): 3HKOs first.
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3): Yeah.
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1) - Zophar versus Someone Who Does Not Resist Fate Storm. This'll go over well.
Heavy:
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT) - Status-fling Initiative. Does Lede block Petrify? Doesn't block Sleep afaik. Can Nash kill her then before he wakes her with his attack and she rapes?
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - ACF isn't ranked?
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3) - Oh lawld.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - Sure.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1) - Tempest wishes his Wind spell was offensive, rather than a pushback~
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS) - ChuChu hype ends here.
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Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2): 3HKOs first.
Hm? Mallow 4HKOs average with his best damage (Shocker deals 31% PC HP damage. High 4HKO, but), and Jin's MDef is below average by a grand total of one point while his HP is above average by a better percentage margin than that (unless XS2 MDef is waaaaaaay more relevant than I thought, which... it -could be-, and I do remember it being a notable stat, but... spread). Granted, you may see Stock x3 Jin not OHKOing, but hell if I know how I take XS2 damage.
EDIT: Mallow probably does scrape a 3HKO with the Heal Shell average (33.74% PC HP), but hell, I honestly can't see why Bowser would use it over Work Pants, given how his durability stems mostly from HP and the Heal Shell is utterly awful.
EDIT 2: WAIT, Mallow with Work Pants. Does the average ratio even change, though? Off Work Pants averages, everybody would gain about ten-fifteen damage or something...
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Might be due to everyone being able to use Work Pants. Personally, I'd see the character-specific armor with the higher defense as the default too, but that's just me. <<
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Yeah, which I actually ended up addressing in my second edit. I'm mostly thinking "does Mallow 3HKO with a Work Pants average?", which is sorta questionable due to being a boost the entire cast can use.
EDIT: This also highlights the the issues I have with multiple averages accounting for twinking, for all that I find it a very sound idea on paper (killing lol ryu3 is faster than the universe cuz he goes naked hype alone is salutable and is probably the main reason I do it). I kinda wonder if I couldn't take it the way Tally-chu does (factor the person using the twinking into the averages and the rest goes as normally), adding my typical case-by-case clause for when extreme cases kick in - like the aforementioned Ryu3 hype.
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Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)- Ewww.
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3) - ARPG character! APRG character! No forced to turn based here so Ashton just smacks Adray around silly while he tries and fails to cast things. I'm sorry Adray.
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Well, CT... I think Adray can get one spell off before Ashton reaches him. Suppose this is Gravity or whatever the hell the movement speed reducing spell was. Think Adray can reposition himself to launch more spells while Ashton, in vain, tries to reach him again?
Obviously I'm not sure, else I would've voted, since SO2 movement speed left an impression on my mind somewhere between Raquel and FFT Calculators. But uh, yeah, are Bunny Shoes DL-legal? Am I overappreciating SO3 casting speed?
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One of Ashton's KMs teleports him over to his target, if memory serves. Not much Adray could do about that. Even if he could slow Ashton first, Ashton would end up right on top of him, and then Adray would probably be in deep shit.
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Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4): OHKO hype? Kraken does 64% to average. Yulie has 66% pdur.
I'm not trying to nitpick, just ask a question (math-related) - wouldn't Kraken win in that case, or am I math retarded, moreso than usual? If Kraken deals 64% to average, wouldn't he deal more to Yulie? Or does the 66% physical durability take into her durability to the physical element, so Kraken deals 64 to 100, and Yulie has 66 (effectively)? Actually, looking at it, I think the latter is what you meant, and I just can't read >_>
Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1) - Zophar. Hell Storm smash.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4) - Soji. HAH. Last week this was a guaranteed loss for him >_>
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga) - Jenna.
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars) - Ghaleon. Yay turn-based speed conversions, I guess.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3) - ...oh brother.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4) - Demi.
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1) - Kary.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT) - Nash for Heavy champ.
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Scythe. ID limit fun
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig) - Axl
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3) - Adray
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - Kraken. Turn-based speed yay.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1) - Tempest. TSS form.
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS) - Chu-Chu. Grow and smash.
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2) - Jin. XS3!
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3) - Alonso.
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Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4): OHKO hype? Kraken does 64% to average. Yulie has 66% pdur.
I'm not trying to nitpick, just ask a question (math-related) - wouldn't Kraken win in that case, or am I math retarded, moreso than usual? If Kraken deals 64% to average, wouldn't he deal more to Yulie? Or does the 66% physical durability take into her durability to the physical element, so Kraken deals 64 to 100, and Yulie has 66 (effectively)?
Yes, the latter is what is meant.
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One of Ashton's KMs teleports him over to his target, if memory serves. Not much Adray could do about that. Even if he could slow Ashton first, Ashton would end up right on top of him, and then Adray would probably be in deep shit.
If anyone can confirm Ashton's ability to do so, I'm going to have to vote Ashton.
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Dead Triangle does that, so does Leaf Slash. Both of these skills suck at damage, but if you're going to hype -that-, eh, be my guest. Dead Triangle also leaves Ashton closer to the target after it's done, so it's probably preferrable in that specific situation.
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Eh, if you have all the time (and resources) of the world to pull off a 100HKO, and it's the only way you can win, I suppose you have to, no? Ashton it is, then.
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What I meant was that if Ashton can get on Adray with a teleport, he can start hacking him up with a KM that's actually good.
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Yep. That's the relevant part.
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Wait... why does Souji suddenly beat IQA?
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4-D pocket in WA5 doesn't work one on one.
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Yeah, Tally-chu tested that more or less just after IQA beat Terra. Weird stuff like that happens from time to time.
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1) - Yeah.
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga) - ...And this match has become painful to me, due to how I've begun viewing things. Damnit. Gut says still Jenna, but it's close.
Heavy:
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4) - How close is this if Auto-Taru isn't factored in at all?
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1) - Isn't Kary's fight.
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT) - Doesn't Lede have a faster form than the stat topic? Or do I just misremember?
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - Tanks a salvo, one-shots.
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3) - Better at slugging.
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - No clue.
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1) - Tempest vs. competence.\
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So it's a case of her not being able to use it when you only have one character left, right?
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She uses it, the move just does literally nothing.
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She uses it, the move just does literally nothing.
So no AI limitations hype. Soji it is then.
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Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4) - How close is this if Auto-Taru isn't factored in at all?
Doesn't really change things much at all. Demi is faster and kicks Chie out of GH usability range with ITE by the time she puts up PC.
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4-D pocket in WA5 doesn't work one on one.
Well, there's always the argument that Personas count as a separate entity and therefore Souji is targetable!
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Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4) - ACF isn't ranked?
ACF is ranked, though I'd allow the form even if it wasn't.
Well, there's always the argument that Personas count as a separate entity and therefore Souji is targetable!
Rank Black Frost?
Also, I demand you replace my desk.
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Well, there's always the argument that Personas count as a separate entity and therefore Souji is targetable!
Rank Black Frost?
Also, I demand you replace my desk.
I'm all for Ranking Black Frost (along with other notable randoms like Metal Slime and Cactuar).
And seriously, headdesk all you like, it's a flavor argument that makes sense to me in the context of the SMT series. The demons/Persona have long been considered separate entities that are tied to the PCs (and sometimes PCs themselves). I'm especially inclined to view them as somewhat separate from Souji since he has so many to choose from and switches them constantly in battle. Sort of a halfway point between how Yuna clearly summons separate beings and Yuri transforms into different beings. I would -definitely- see 4D Pocket working on Yuna's summons, for example.
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Godlike:
Zophar (Lunar:EBC) vs Jade (BoF1) - Jade has no real arguments here. At least not with FS in play.
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4)
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga)
Xorn (G3) vs Ghaleon (Lunars) - Hahahaha @ all of Xorn's damage being physical or lightning based, and having an opponent who hails from a TB game.
He won't even get good (better than 4-5HKO) damage until after losing 25% of his HP, and consistent damage (3HKO) until under 50%! Yeah.. lol
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3)
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4)
Hildagarde Valentine (SH3) vs Kary (FF1)
Nash Rumack (Lunar1) vs Lede (FFT)
Middle:
Rudy Roughknight (WA1) vs Scythe Riebauer (WA4)
Axl (MMXCM) vs Cador (Brig)
Ashton Anchors (SO2) vs Adray Lasbard (SO3)
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4)
Light:
Tempest (Lunar:SSSC) vs Aguro (Lufia 1)
Chu-Chu (XG) vs Garet (GS)
Mallow (SMRPG) vs Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Laguna Loire (FF8) vs Alonso (G3)
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I'm all for Ranking Black Frost (along with other notable randoms like Metal Slime and Cactuar).
And seriously, headdesk all you like, it's a flavor argument that makes sense to me in the context of the SMT series. The demons/Persona have long been considered separate entities that are tied to the PCs (and sometimes PCs themselves). I'm especially inclined to view them as somewhat separate from Souji since he has so many to choose from and switches them constantly in battle. Sort of a halfway point between how Yuna clearly summons separate beings and Yuri transforms into different beings. I would -definitely- see 4D Pocket working on Yuna's summons, for example.
You just don't like cheesy PCs >_>
For all that I'm still trying to figure out a justification for 4-D Pocket working in a duel. At least Avril's still probably a low godlike on the speed and ok damage.
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Avril, from the sounds of it, is basically Melfice trading the unreliable status and massive evade for ITD and noticeably better durability. That is probably Godlike material, 140%~ speed is good stuff.
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Well, there's always the argument that Personas count as a separate entity and therefore Souji is targetable!
Rank Black Frost?
Also, I demand you replace my desk.
I'm all for Ranking Black Frost (along with other notable randoms like Metal Slime and Cactuar).
And seriously, headdesk all you like, it's a flavor argument that makes sense to me in the context of the SMT series. The demons/Persona have long been considered separate entities that are tied to the PCs (and sometimes PCs themselves). I'm especially inclined to view them as somewhat separate from Souji since he has so many to choose from and switches them constantly in battle. Sort of a halfway point between how Yuna clearly summons separate beings and Yuri transforms into different beings. I would -definitely- see 4D Pocket working on Yuna's summons, for example.
You'd be wrong. Even ignoring the gameplay stuff (*snort* to that), the Personas in P4 are literally that person's potential unlocked and nothing else.
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Avril, from the sounds of it, is basically Melfice trading the unreliable status and massive evade for ITD and noticeably better durability. That is probably Godlike material, 140%~ speed is good stuff.
Yeah, she has still has about 65% PC HP damage (though elemental) off that killer speed and solid durability.
Also, Djinn, Aeons are at least targettable. Persona are not, nor does it matter if similar things are targettable in other SMT games, because the only game mechanics relevant to Souji's are those in P4.
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Avril still beats Yuna....right...
RIGHT!?
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Noes.
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Well, there's always the argument that Personas count as a separate entity and therefore Souji is targetable!
Rank Black Frost?
Also, I demand you replace my desk.
I'm all for Ranking Black Frost (along with other notable randoms like Metal Slime and Cactuar).
Screw all that. Rank boss Raiho!
Side note: someone not me needs to do some DS stat topics.
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A couple of questions on the Chie VS. Demi fight:
- Is Demi effected by Berserk Status?
- Has anyone tested the effectiveness of Chie's Punk Shoes (Which I believe have a high rating for inflicting Berserk)?
Sure, the Punk Shoes would probably nerf her damage somewhat, but P4 Berserk would force Demi to use nothing but regular attacks, playing into Chie's High Counter / Evade game. P4 Berserk also has the added effect of making your Defense suck in exchange for higher Attack.
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Demi is immune to status effects.
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Adray is a demonic spell caster (the best) with Quick Symbol (which only the mages can use so I allow it) and one of the better casters even without it, the problem is menu symbology damage is terrible so he'd have to aim for one with a status and hope it hits Ashton turn 1.
You can get unlimited Bunny Shoes in SO3 by sleeping at the inn with Santa's Boots equipped, take that how you will.
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Godlike:
Ice Queen Avril (WA5) vs Souji Seta (P4) - Bah. Grossly overpowered PCs win again. At least it's not Yuna.
Jenna Angel (DDS) vs TimeLord (Saga) - Timelord only gets one shot of Overdrive, but not even that can make him avoid a Bhairava phase.
Heavy:
Nina (BoF1) vs Yuki (G3) - Hey, Yuki. Meet initiative healing and Idle.
Chie Satonaka (P4) vs Demi (PS4) - ITE. Chie hates it.
Middle:
Kraken (FF1) vs Yulie Ahtreide (WA4) - Sure, I'll get on the Yulie Hype Train.
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what's the delay? why aren't the results up yet?
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We're currently on a one-week break due to DL Con 4.