The RPG Duelling League
RPG Debate => Tournaments => Topic started by: Pyro on March 06, 2010, 01:01:10 AM
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Pikachu: (http://www.rpgdl.com/Images/PKMN_Pikachu.png)
Innes: (http://www.rpgdl.com/Images/FE8_Innes.png)
Peppor: (http://www.rpgdl.com/Images/CC_Peppor.png)
Shiho: (http://www.rpgdl.com/Images/VP_Shiho.png)
Serra: (http://www.rpgdl.com/Images/FE7_Serra.png)
Pikachu vs Innes
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra
Innes vs Peppor
Innes vs Shiho
Innes vs Serra
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vs Serra
Shiho vs Serra
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Pikachu vs Innes- Take Pika at Midgame.
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra- But I definitely don't allow him lightball. THink that was his L44 skill.
Innes vs Peppor- Peppor.
Innes vs Shiho- Shiho.
Innes vs Serra- Kneejerking an Innes 2HKO but Serra does have superior range options.
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vsSerra
Shiho vs Serra
Serra: 4-0. Bad pool.
Pikachu: 3-1
Innes: 2-2
Peppor: 1-3
Shiho: 0-4
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Pikachu vs Innes - Taking Pika at midgame seems fair, yeah.
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra
Innes vs Peppor
Innes vs Shiho
Innes vs Serra - Don't think Serra's damage was good enough to save her here.
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vs Serra
Shiho vs Serra
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This pool is epicly epic
Pikachu v Innes Doubles, can avoid Innes counters, and my assumption is Thunderbolt would have 2 range so can counter Innes. I suppose if Nidhogg did super damage to Pikachu then Innes would have an argument, but ehh...
Pikachu v Peppor- Smashes!
Pikachu v Shiho- Can get through healing with a double/crit. If not that then Thunder Wave. This is just silly.
Pikachu v Serra- Doubled and massively outslugged.
Innes v Peppor- Peppor
Innes v Shiho- Shiho dies to a crit someday
Innes v Serra- Does real damage, Shiho taking advantage of 2:1 is irrelevant here.
Peppor v Shiho- Heals and like 15HKOs?
Peppor v Serra- Outslugs...
Serra v Shiho- Honestly I don't think Serra can heal lock here. This is awful
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Pikachu vs Innes
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra
Innes vs Peppor
Innes vs Shiho
Innes vs Serra
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vs Serra
Shiho vs Serra
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Pikachu vs Innes - Definately see Pokemon getting nailed by the Sacred Twins extra damage to monsters thing.
Pikachu vs Peppor - Pika's durability is bad, but the damage(by Light standards) and speed make up for it.
Pikachu vs Shiho - One sided.
Pikachu vs Serra - I'm kneejerking Serra's Mdef as being high enough to squeak by here. Unsure.
Innes vs Peppor - Uhhh...I could see Peppor winning this. He does dodge counters. I have a fair amount of kneejerk Innes respect though, so.
Innes vs Shiho - Crit happens.
Innes vs Serra - I think he 2HKOs and she 3HKOs but counters. Meaning whoever goes first wins. Except Killer Bow Innes has a better chance of getting that lucky crit on his first action giving him a better chance of winning when she goes first then she has when he goes first. I could look up the numbers and actually make sure of this, but effort.
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vs Serra - We don't seem to have Solt and Peppor in the CC stat topics, but I checked Serra's numbers and her physical durability is really just that bad. Think he takes this.
Shiho vs Serra - I'm not thinking about this.
Innes: 4-0. Likes me being generous with monster weakness and my views on doubling.
Pikachu: 2-2. He makes alot of FE chars emo, just...not these two.
Peppor: 2-2. Weird pool for him. Normally worse then this.
Serra: 2-2. Congrats Serra, you manage to beat Pikachu and lose to Peppor. I'm impressed.
Shiho: 0-4. It's Shiho, what do you expect?
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Pikachu vs Innes
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra
Innes vs Peppor
Innes vs Shiho
Innes vs Serra
Peppor vs Shiho
Peppor vs Serra
Shiho vs Serra
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Pikachu vs Innes - lol Innes.
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Pikachu vs Innes
Pikachu vs Peppor
Pikachu vs Shiho
Pikachu vs Serra
Innes vs Peppor
Innes vs Shiho
Innes vs Serra
Peppor vs Shiho -Kneejerking that he's that bad. If we get some numbers, I'll revise this. But I'm seeing the Solt/Peppor team as Zahak/Alenia bad.
Peppor vs Serra
Shiho vs Serra
Serra > Pikachu > Innes > Shiho > Peppor
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Super demands ANALYSIS. I deliver because I am vaguely insane. Also, Lightball is a unique item for Pika, not a skill Super. The one you're thinking of is probably Volt Tackle. I demand you re-analyze!
Pikachu vs Innes - Not taking Monster weakness into account. Innes needs a OHKO here since Lightball Pika I think 2HKOs him. Fact that Pika also avoids counters is generally not good for him
Pikachu vs Peppor - Superior damage difference
Pikachu vs Shiho - As above.
Pikachu vs Serra - Ohgodwhy. OKAY. So analysis for Super because he's Super:
This is idly a match of epic proportions. First, what gen are we taking Pika? Gen 1 Pika probably loses because he has no Light Ball. Gen 2-4 are in much better shape. Without crunching numbers, I kneejerk Pika wanting to go DT before going offensive. Every time he attacks, Serra gets counters, and even if its Serra damage, it adds up due to Pika durability. If Pika effectively manages to set up DT, he has a good chance since now he can safely dodge counters (and attacks!) without worry. Straight up blitz seems unfavourable for Pika to me since he's eating counters 100% of the time and Serra can take a few Thunderbolts thanks to Serra Res. Likely, Pika probably wants to go T Wave/Agility to get a larger speed gap going, before using DT a few times (3 maybe), then go offense once he has some dodge in there. Tentative Pika vote anyway - Snow/NEB need to number crunch this.
Innes vs Peppor - I think Peppor's best damage move was like 3/4HKO or something (ThundaStorm?). He coul go melee to dodge counters, but then Innes would too so its moot. Definitely not seeing Peppor survive 4 Innes hits. Don't recall him being anywhere that durable. And 3HKO still risks eating a Killer crit.
Innes vs Shiho - Crits eventually and ends the world.
Innes vs Serra - I...think. Assuming neither double each other, Serra is going to be getting twice as many hit on Innes than Innes himself. Killer might speed up her death, but Serra has good Luck, and reverse side of things is that Serra's weapons also have a small amount of added crit too
Peppor vs Shiho - Not even Peppor is so bad to need 8 turns to kill Shiho here >_>
Peppor vs Serra - Idly. Gate confirms that Peppor had a physical tech here which IIRC were ITE in CC. Sooooooooo!
Shiho vs Serra - ...WhatisthisIdon'teven. Serra doesn't care about getting doubled, equips something like Divine with added crit and also eventually ends the world.
Pikachu 4-0
Serra 3-1
Innes 2-2
Peppor 2-2
Shiho 0-4
PS: Remind me to set Super on fire.