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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Round 2, Pools 9&10~

« on: April 25, 2009, 04:46:51 AM »

Side Battle (Fire Emblem 10) vs. Battle with the Four Fiends (Final Fantasy IV)
The Fountain of Dreams (Super Smash Brothers Melee) vs. The True Mirror ~Guitar Ver.~ (Baten Kaitos)
Dancing Mad 4 (Final Fantasy VI) vs. Astaroth ~ Battle with the Fallen Angel (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)
Still Alive (Portal) vs. Tibet ~Salvation~ (Ai Cho Aniki)

Speed Queen (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) vs. Prisoners of Fate (Chrono Cross)
Expressive Hill ~Harmonics EOLIA~ (Ar Tonelico) vs. Lullaby of a Desolate Hell (Subterranean Animism)
Tow-Colored Necklace (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) vs. Requiem (Growlanser Generations)
Seven Heroes Battle (Romancing SaGa 2) vs. The End of 1000 Years (Melty Blood Act Cadenza)

FAILURE BRACKET
Sphere Hunter Seagull Group (Final Fantasy X-2) vs. I am the Number One! (Star Ocean 3)

ANIME
Madlax (Madlax) vs. The Girl in Byakkoya (Paprika)
The Sacred Moon (Tsukihime) vs. Tsuki no Mayu (Turn A Gundam)

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Tournaments / Re: Beauty Contest: If ye accept the benedictions of beauty...

« on: April 23, 2009, 09:22:18 PM »

Aya (PE) vs. Lucia (FEs)
Isolde (MK) vs. Nel (SO3)
Terra (FFs) vs. Leanne (FEs)
Jeane (Suikos) vs. Cecillia (WA1)
Lyndis (FE7) vs. Lucia (S3)
Chris (S3) vs. Judith (ToV)
Mitsuru (P3) vs. Elincia (FEs)
Belleza (SoA:L) vs. Riviera (Growlanser 2)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Round 2, Pools 7&8~

« on: April 23, 2009, 04:54:20 AM »

The Mysterious Crystal Valley (Atelier Iris 3) vs. Ukishima (Phantasy Star Universe)
Silver Sands (Aka) vs. The Meaning of Birth (Tales of the Abyss)
Tocatta into Blood Soaked Darkness (Castlevania: Curse of Darkness) vs. Windward Birds (Wild ARMs ACF)
Bramble Blast (Super Smash Brothers Brawl) vs. Advancing Toward 12 O'Clock (Tales of Legendia)

Tor (Iji) vs. Aldehyde Castle Town (Wild ARMs ACF)
Marionette Messiah (Super Robot Wars OGs) vs. Last Castle (Final Fantasy Mystic Quest)
A Moment of Joy (Breath of Fire V) vs. Small Two of Pieces ~Broken Shards~ (Xenogears)
Beware the Forest Mushrooms (Super Mario RPG) vs. Toward a Faraway Sky (Skygunner)

FAILURE BRACKET
Gathering Allies (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance) vs. Key to my Heart (Tales of Destiny 2)

ANIME
Karasu's Theme (Noein) vs. Guns & Roses (Baccano)
Hito Toshite Jiju ga Bureteiru (Sayonora Zetsubou Sensei) vs. Blast My Desire (Initial D Fourth Stage)

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General Chat / Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.

« on: April 22, 2009, 05:19:17 AM »

Persona 4: 10/1 Spent an hour item hunting because I didn't do a bunch of quests early on in the game.

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General Chat / Re: Miscellaneous Links 2009 - The Re-Vengeance

« on: April 21, 2009, 01:50:27 PM »

Japanese Binocular Soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwvVh0_ZelI

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General Chat / Re: Watching any anime?

« on: April 21, 2009, 01:45:44 PM »

Finished Tsubasa Chronicles Season 1.  The anime was really disappointing because I'm a big fan of the manga.  The plodding pace and the fact that Bee Train managed to fit in some filler episodes left a bad taste in my mouth.  At least the dub is good.  I'm going to wait a while before I start Season 2.

For now, I'm watching the Irresponsible Captain Tylor OVA.

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Round 2, Pools 5&6~

« on: April 21, 2009, 04:55:18 AM »

Last Battle ~Decision~ (Tales of Symphonia) vs. Liberi Fatali (Final Fantasy VIII)
The Excitement of Both of Us (Legend of Mana) vs. Anu Orta Veniya (Panzer Dragoon Orta)
The Fate ~ Cluster Amaryllis (Shadow Hearts Covenant) vs. Aspiration (Xenogears)
Far Cry (Breath of Fire V) vs. The First Unison (Valkyrie Profile)

You Smiled Kindly (.hack//GU Volume 3) vs. You're Not Alone (Final Fantasy IX)
The Extreme (Final Fantasy VIII) vs. Diva (Guilty Gear 2)
Never More (Persona 4) vs. Awe of She (Guilty Gear XX)
To the Last Drop of My Blood (Valkyrie Profile) vs. Scarlet Wind (Radiata Stories)

FAILURE BRACKET
Three of Darkside (Seiken Densetsu 3) vs. What's Up? (Star Ocean 3)

ANIME
In the Land of Twilight, Under the Moon (.hack//SIGN) vs. Yasashii Yoake (.hack//SIGN)
Colorless Wind (sola) vs. Trust You (Gundam 00 Season 2)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Round 2, Pools 3&4~

« on: April 17, 2009, 08:45:12 PM »

Battlefield - The First Campaign (Etrian Odyssey 2) vs. Violent Storm (Baten Kaitos)
Water Prison (Ys Origin) vs. The Price of Freedom (FF7: Crisis Core)
True (Silent Hill 2) vs. Letter - From the Lost Days (Silent Hill 3)
Gothic Neclord (Suikoden 2) vs. STIGMATA (Mana Khemia)

The Bird Chirps, I Sing (Tales of Legendia) vs. Over the Wind (Wild ARMs 4)
Godsibb (Xenosaga 3) vs. Idola the Strange Fruits (Phantasy Star Online Episode 3)
Kimi no Kioku (Persona 3) vs. Battle Hymn of the Soul/Battle for Everyone's Souls (Persona 3)
Radical Dreamers - Without Taking the Jewel (Chrono Cross) vs. Twilight of the Anti-Hero (Wild ARMs XF)

FAILURE BRACKET
Hurry, Hurry! (Final Fantasy V) vs. Slam Shuffle (Final Fantasy VI)

ANIME
Ana (Clannad) vs. Mezame (Mai Hime)
Rinne no Hate Ni (Tsukihime) vs. Jounetsu (Tokyo Underground)

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General Chat / Re: What are you litsening to? Ver.2009

« on: April 17, 2009, 04:49:15 AM »

Crushing Day - Joe Satriani

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Round 2, Pools 1&2~

« on: April 17, 2009, 04:41:28 AM »

Stickerbrush Symphony (Donkey Kong Country) vs. The Merciless Savior (Legend of Heroes VI)
Enemy Attack (Tales of Legendia) vs. One Final Effort (Halo 3)
Alice (Shadow Hearts) vs. Nefertiti (Mana Khemia)
Feel a Fear (Guilty Gear XX) vs. The Road to Tomorrow Follows Behind You (Wild ARMs 5)

The Stage is Set (Final Fantasy VIII) vs. Primal Eyes (Parasite Eve)
Time of the Dreamwatch (Chrono Cross) vs. Sunlight Filtering through the Trees (Tales of Legendia)
Howl of the Departed (Lost Odyssey) vs. At the Frozen Depths of the Heart (Wild ARMs 5)
Battle on the Big Bridge (Final Fantasy V) vs. Under the Stars (Final Fantasy Tactics)

FAILURE BRACKET
Hydlide (Hydlide) vs. Honeybee Manor (Final Fantasy VII)

ANIME
Canta Per Me (Noir) vs. Rise (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig)
Bring all the Wisdom to Britain! (Read or Die OVA) vs. Hanabi (Bleach)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 16~

« on: April 16, 2009, 04:50:14 AM »

Ernst (Ys 6: The Ark of Napishtim) vs. Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII (Final Fantasy VII)
Wanted Person Battle (Metal Saga) vs. Influence of Truth's Appearance (Star Ocean 3)
Antipyretic (Final Fantasy Tactics) vs. Blow Me Away (Halo 2)
Still in the Dark (Guilty Gear XX) vs. EXEC_PAJA/.#Misya Extracting (Ar Tonelico)
Waste Abandonment Pit (Breath of Fire V) vs. A Sunny Spot (Berwick Saga)
Silver Tone (Breath of Fire V) vs. There's Only One Family Named Schroedinger (Wild ARMs 3)
Crash Landing (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) vs. Sorrow's Distortion (Castlevania: Order of Eclessia)
Title Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time) vs. Song of Mana (Legend of Mana)

FAILURE BRACKET
Eyes on Me (Final Fantasy VIII) vs. Dragon Slayer (Dragon Slayer)

ANIME
Cyclone (Romeo x Juliet) vs. Senketsu no Chikai (Magical Pokan)
Rinbu Revolution (Revolutionary Girl Utena) vs. Undying Flower (Full Metal Panic)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of Doom Vol. 2 ~Pool 15~

« on: April 15, 2009, 03:09:28 AM »

Dream of the Shore Bordering Another World (Chrono Cross) vs. Reach Out to the Truth (Persona 4)
Sky Gate (Valkyrie Profile) vs. Battlefield of Steel (Princess Waltz)
Cradle of the Ivory Moon (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) vs. When the Northern Sky is Clear (Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles)
Shin Onigashima (Super Smash Brothers Brawl) vs. Nightless City Guara Bobelo (Wild ARMs 4)
Idola the Fanatic Viper (Phantasy Star Online Episode 4) vs. Rakuge (Hana-Ki-Sou)
Confiant (Knytt Stories: The Machine) vs. Theme of Arcueid (Melty Blood Act Cadenza)
Mysterious People (Suikoden 3) vs. Bridge of Jade (May Sky)
Overture (Final Fantasy VIII) vs. Bombing Mission (Final Fantasy VII)

FAILURE BRACKET
Waterfall (Koudelka) vs. Critical Hit (Wild ARMs)

ANIME
Cruel Angel's Thesis (Neon Genesis Evangelion) vs. Shangri-La (Sakyuu no Fafnir)
Lu:Na (New Fist of the North Star) vs. Salva Nos (Noir)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 14~

« on: April 14, 2009, 04:48:12 AM »

ICARO (Acoustic) (Shadow Hearts 3) vs. Thames, the Men of the Sea (Xenogears)
Into the Wilderness (Wild ARMs) vs. A New Trial is in Session (Apollo Justice)
Klavier Gavin - Guilty Love (Apollo Justice) vs. Men of War (Breath of Fire IV)
To the End of the Woven Tale of the 108 Stars (Suikoden 5) vs. Calling (The World Ends With You)
Tenacity (Tales of Vesperia) vs. Promised Pain (Xenosaga 3)
Mecha Dragon (Megaman 2: The Power Fighters) vs. Theme of Luminous Arc (Luminous Arc)
Trap Phantasm (Megaman ZX Advent) vs. Prelude of Battle (Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song)
Cosmos (Dissidia) vs. Opening (Suikoden 2)

FAILURE BRACKET
Chaotic Dance (Baten Kaitos) vs. Gale (Chrono Cross)

ANIME
Uninstall (Bokurano) vs. Kotowari: In Memories (Kenshin OVA)
"Libera Me" from Hell (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann) vs. Aura (.hack//SIGN)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 13~

« on: April 14, 2009, 04:33:41 AM »

Main Title (Orchestral) (Panzer Dragoon) vs. Pokefloats (Super Smash Brothers Melee)
A World in Crisis (Final Fantasy VII) vs. Terrible-Monster Attacking Crew! (Wild ARMs 5)
A Despair-Filled Farewell ~ Battle with the Colossus~ (Shadow of the Colossus) vs. The War Song (Sam & Max Season 1)
Sonic Boom (Super Smash Brothers Brawl) vs. Thema der Irismaschinen (RozenKreuzStillette)
Main Theme (Orchestral) (Parasite Eve) vs. Musicbox (Silent Hill 2)
Karma (Tales of the Abyss) vs. The Oath (Final Fantasy VIII)
Bonds of Sea and Fire (Xenogears) vs. Murdering Princess (Wild ARMs ACF)
EXEC_LINCA/. (Ar Tonelico) vs. The Mountain of No Return (Wild ARMs 5)

FAILURE BRACKET
Eternity (Blue Dragon) vs. Final Toccata (Castlevania: Symphony of the Night)

ANIME
XTC (Witchblade) vs. Zero (World Destruction)
Read or Die Theme (Read or Die OVA) vs. Rolling Star (Bleach)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 10~

« on: April 08, 2009, 04:42:33 AM »

Cyber Peacock (Megaman X4) vs. Speed Queen (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters)
Prisoners of Fate (Chrono Cross) vs. Fight Tune "Girl named Shelke" (Final Fantasy 7: Dirge of Cerberus)
Celestia Battle (Tales of Eternia) vs. Expressive Hill ~Harmonics EOLIA~ (Ar Tonelico)
Lullaby of a Desolate Hell (Subterrainian Animism) vs. Scars of the Divine Wing (Ys Origin)
Two-Colored Necklace (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters) vs. Hostiles (Front Mission 4)
Human Battle 1 (Warcraft 2) vs. Requiem (Growlanser Generations)
This Illusion ~Piano Version~ (Fate/Stay Night) vs. Seven Heroes Battle (Romancing SaGa 2)
Soul Stranger (Super Robot Wars W) vs. The End of 1000 Years (Melty Blood: Act Cadenza)

FAILURE BRACKET
I am the Number One! (Star Ocean 3) vs. Tifa's Theme (Final Fantasy VII) - Annoying > Dull

ANIME
Yuki, Muon, Madobe Nite (The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi) vs. The Sacred Moon (Tsukihime)
Tsuki no Mayu (Turn A Gundam) vs. Give a Reason (Slayers NEXT)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 9~

« on: April 08, 2009, 03:06:39 AM »

Side Battle (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance) vs. Someday (The World Ends with You) - Both tracks are good, but Someday is by far the better one.
Battle with the Four Fiends (Final Fantasy IV) vs. Premonition (Final Fantasy VIII)
The Fountain of Dreams (Super Smash Brothers Melee) vs. The Galaxy Public Corporation (Rogue Galaxy)
The True Mirror (Baten Kaitos) vs. Laughter (Phantasy Star IV)
Mass Destruction (Persona 3) vs. Dancing Mad 4 (Final Fantasy VI)
Astaroth ~ Battle with the Fallen Angel (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs. Underwater Lab (Within a Deep Forest)
Still Alive (Portal) vs. Kazenone (Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles)
Ode to Laharl (Disgaea) vs. Tibet ~Salvation~ (Ai Cho Aniki)

FAILURE BRACKET
Sphere Hunter Seagull Group (Final Fantasy X-2) vs. Dandy Richmond (Suikoden 2) - The cheesiness kills me.

ANIME
Madlax (Madlax) vs. Kaze no Tadori Tsuku Basho (Kanon)
Parade (Paprika) vs. Do You Remember Love? (Macross Plus)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 7~

« on: April 06, 2009, 04:55:20 AM »

Power of the Horde (Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne) vs. The Mysterious Crystal Valley (Atelier Iris 3)
Puzzle (Wild ARMs: ACF) vs. Ukishima (Phantasy Star Universe)
Flying Man (Earthbound) vs. Silver Sands (Aka)
Green Streets (May Sky) vs. The Meaning of Birth (Tales of the Abyss)
Way to Fall (Metal Gear Solid 3) vs. Tocatta into Blood Soaked Darkness (Castlevania: Curse of Darkness)
Windward Birds (Wild ARMs: ACF) vs. Burn my Dread (Persona 3)
Bramble Blast (Super Smash Brothers Brawl) vs. Her Cage (Kanon)
Advancing Toward 12 O'Clock (Tales of Legendia) vs. Flower Sights ~Actual~ (Ar Tonelico 2)

FAILURE BRACKET
Garnet's Theme (Final Fantasy IX) vs. Gathering Allies (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance) - I have bad memories of going through all the menus in FFTA.

ANIME
Karasu's Theme (Noein) vs. Life Goes On (Antique Bakery)
Guns & Roses (Baccano) vs. Hey You! (Tokyo Underground)

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 8~

« on: April 06, 2009, 04:52:24 AM »

Tor (Iji) vs. Song of the Gentle Breeze (Ar Tonelico)
Aldehyde Castle Town (Wild ARMs: ACF) vs. The Shell's Desert - Last Boss (Phantasy Star Online Episode 4)
Marionette Messiah (Super Robot Wars Original Generations) vs. Augustrian Disturbance (Fire Emblem 4)
Evil Queen (Rhapsody) vs. Last Castle (Final Fantasy Mystic Quest)
Long Dream (The World Ends With You) vs. A Moment's Joy (Breath of Fire V)
Alice (Shadow Hearts: Covenant) vs. Small Two of Pieces ~Broken Shards~ (Xenogears)
Red Wings (Final Fantasy IV) vs. Beware the Forest Mushrooms (Super Mario RPG)
Beauty and the Shining Sword (Wild ARMs XF) vs. Toward a Faraway Sky (Skygunner)

FAILURE BRACKET
Menu (Legend of Dragoon) vs. Key to my Heart (Tales of Destiny 2) - Cheese factor is greater in Key to my Heart.

ANIME
Zetsubou Billy (Death Note) vs. Hito Toshite Jiku ga Bureteiru (Sayonora Zetsubou Sensei)
Oblivious (Kara no Kyoukai) vs. Blast My Desire (Initial D Fourth Stage)

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General Chat / Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.

« on: April 05, 2009, 04:20:49 AM »

Fullmetal Alchemist: Dual Sympathy - Playing through Story Mode as Edward Elric.  So far, it's been very easy.

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General Chat / Re: Watching any anime?

« on: April 05, 2009, 04:18:38 AM »

Vexille:  It's okay at best.  The CGI didn't do much for me.

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General Chat / Re: Sigs, factions and avatars: 2009.

« on: April 04, 2009, 05:06:32 AM »

Ignoring all fads in favor of Ledah from Riviera: The Promised Land.

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 5~

« on: April 04, 2009, 03:54:16 AM »

1 hour left to vote...no problem.

Last Battle ~Decision~ (Tales of Symphonia) vs. Thrill Theme ~Suspense~ (Apollo Justice)
Terra (Final Fantasy VI) vs. Liberi Fatali (Final Fantasy VIII)
Heaven (Persona 4) vs. The Excitement of Both of Us (Legend of Mana)
Anu Orta Veniya (Panzer Dragoon Orta) vs. Island Fortress (Suikoden)
Dire, Dire Docks (Super Mario 64) vs. The Fate ~ Cluster Amaryllis (Shadow Hearts: Covenant)
Aspiration (Xenogears) vs. Eternity (Blue Dragon)
Far Cry (Breath of Fire V) vs. Aim for the Top (Tales of Vesperia)
Gathering of Warriors (Suikoden) vs. The First Unison (Valkyrie Profile)

FAILURE BRACKET
Cleyra Settlement (Final Fantasy IX) vs. Three of Darkside (Seiken Densetsu 3)

ANIME
In the Land of Twilight, Under the Moon (.hack//SIGN) vs. Free Bird (Haibane Renmei)
Smile Again (Aria the NATURAL) vs. Yasashi Yoake (.hack//SIGN)

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General Chat / Re: April Fool's 2009

« on: April 02, 2009, 04:51:01 PM »

I was watching a Backloggery stream of Super C for the NES on Justin.tv last night when 10 minutes in, it switched to Superman 64.  It stayed that way for the rest of the stream.  Here's a clip from last night:

http://www.justin.tv/clip/d8b9c1badd37fcb0

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Music Tournament / Re: Music Tournament of DOOM Vol. 2 ~Pool 4~

« on: April 01, 2009, 04:34:33 AM »

The Bird Chirps, I Sing (Tales of Legendia) vs. Requiem (Super Robot Wars F Final)
Over the Wind (Wild ARMs 4) vs. Hometown (Silent Hill 3)
Love & Death (Age of Wonders) vs. Godsibb (Xenosaga 3)
Protecting my Devotion (Final Fantasy IX) vs. Idola the Strange Fruits (Phantasy Star Online Episode 3)
A HOT CRASH!! (Grandia 3) vs. Kimi no Kioku (Persona 3)
Wings (US Vocal) (Wild ARMs 3) vs. Battle Hymn of the Soul/Battle for Everyone's Souls (Persona 3)
Radical Dreamers - Without Taking the Jewel (Chrono Cross) vs. Coin Song (Final Fantasy VI)
Disappeared (Kingdom Hearts) vs. Twilight of the Anti-Hero (Wild ARMs XF)

FAILURE BRACKET
Dark World (Final Fantasy VI) vs. Slam Shuffle (Final Fantasy VI)

ANIME
Rinne no Hate ni (Tsukihime) vs. Outer Senshi Theme (Sailor Moon)
Love Song (Gasaraki) vs. Jounetsu (Tokyo Underground)

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General Chat / Re: Games you're playing: The 2009 edition.

« on: March 31, 2009, 10:31:55 PM »

Thanks for the response Excal, Grefter.

Yeah the blocking system is what I had in mind as to valid complaint worthies, I can see why people might have problems there. Though personally I've never had much problems with it, well the first time I played SO3 I was pretty much completely hopeless at it or so I felt anyway, I just left my AI (Nel and Albel) to rack up cancel bonus combos on their own and controlled Sophia from a far, staying at range, hiding in corners, using her for healing, buffing and reviving and such. I overlevelled a lot, I was L60+ for the Sphere goons and over L70 for the final, still had problems though. Next time I controlled Peppita who is one of my favourite fighters *precisely* for the fact that Power Dance (or any dances) on X  can't trigger the enemy guard system when used in cancel chains with other, offensive skills. Or Maria, who just kills things dead.

As for fury costs, I've never seen them as much of an issue main game not with turning Berserk ON asap for everyone for up to 300% cancel combo chains depending on the move (some boss drops a minus fury factor piece of equipment too) but that's just me, not everyone's going to enjoy that playing style I guess.

Well you'll like SO4 then Grefter hopefully, dodging's supposed to be a major gameplay feature in that game - SO3 did have some dodging techs to play around with the sidestepping feature to some extent but apparently it's more of a factor in the new game.

Eternal Sonata - Finished. Mostly sticking to my original impression of the game - win for the graphics, music and fighting - however going to completely agree with everyone else now that the story becomes complete and utter fail. Crescendo and Serenade just ... ugh. Ending levels Salsa, Viola, March all at L54 - final boss ran me out of reviving items, I only packed like two or three. So finished the fight off with just two characters. Party analysis/review of full battle roster later. Apparently I have a post game to do~

(though after finishing the game I reloaded a pre final save and spent ages wandering around trying to find it >_> I had a vague idea it might have something to with the missing wooden head Goro. Now at least I know exactly where to go. Thank you internet <_<)

I kept on asking "How can the story get any worse" in Eternal Sonata and then came the ending.  Ugh.  It felt longer than 40 minutes.