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« on: January 12, 2008, 03:08:49 AM »
*cracks neck*
Okay, I want to establish this. There is very rarely a good reason for a self-hammer. Especially on day one, where you can potentially cast off suspicion with a timely role claim and get a panic lynch on another person or get a power role to reveal themselves. Yeah, you sign your own death warrant, but you also set the score at 2 townies, one scum, putting the ball firmly in your court.
Second, hammers are powerful tools. Scum bussing tends to be a clear on day one (trust me, I've done it a few times) and keep your nose clean. Hammering scum, especially when there is no need to, looks GOOD most of the time. Further, this is the kind of logic that encourages people not to hammer. Remember, SOMEONE has to be the hammer. If we start looking down on every hammer, well. It just doesn't go great places. It can be useful, yes, to check out who hammers, especially in conjunction with their voting records, but it isn't that often an OMG auto-suspicion thing. I've won games (and almost won games) because I LOVE to hammer my scum partners with zeal. Killing scum = town action! Simple logic for an unsuspicious look.
Third, I'm also going to say that post timing is very, very, very circumstantial as far as evidence goes. Trust me. Most other board games I've been scum in? We chat it up, inform each other we just posted and to go ahead, wait or whatever. More to the point, if hammering looks suspicious... then why would I have wanted Otter to self-hammer when we could have let town go for it?
Really, there is nothing to associate me with that whole mess beyond voting Otter (who was even with Zenny in suspicion, right up until he didn't try much to defend himself and Zenny did) and, even then, good strategy, play history and a little bit of meta all scream that I'd hammer Otter's rear end. I'm not seeing a good argument here at all.
However, I do have a question! Why did you drop a vote before you knew you were going to be gone anyway, especially in a phase that is prone to rapid changes and not having much to go on?
On Alex, I really think people need to get off the haiku thing. Quit speculating about, quit wondering about what sort of tell it is. It is utterly neutral.
And to amend, since three more posts dropped in: it took me a while to vote because I got distracted by WoW and GF while grabbing lunch, then the damnable boards failed to load for me, preventing me from voting. On the note of my reasoning for Otter... uh... looking worse is kind of a good reason when there are two decent suspects. Again, Zenny defended himself. Otter didn't. Townies have no reason to not defend themselves. This looks bad. :p
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