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Discussion / Re: DLC 5 Main Topic

« on: November 02, 2009, 02:34:15 PM »

Providing my Visa stuff works out, I will quite likely be going!
You can put me down for a yes, but I'll let you know as soon as I can if that needs to change.

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Game Design and Modifications / Re: LFT: An FFT mod (complete and available for download!)

« on: July 14, 2009, 03:28:53 PM »

Nah, the complaint is that the broken toy is too easily accessible, which is a valid concern. The train of thought I had going when I was designing the Colliery fights was "Yeah, okay, anyone who's clearing these is going to have enough toys to curbstomp the rest of the (normal) game, so who cares".

Harp WP in general still leaves me somewhat baffled. Prior to the last update (where we flipped Bloody Strings and Ramia Harp storebought locations) mc and I were arguing about this pretty extensively. I was concerned that, although their damage is still lower on paper compared to Ninjas, Bards were not really that hard to set up for damage (optimal Ninja setup now is Attack UP + Morning Star at endgame levels), had 3 range, were faster, and got parasitic healing to boot. The aspects I -did- like was how well they worked with Charge (and now Quick Attack) - skillsets that could still use more exposure. mc's counterpoint was mainly that Bards were frailer than Ninjas and that their stats were really that bad, plus the damage on paper didn't seem horribly out of hand compared to other damage twink setups.

This is all ignoring Fairy Harp, which I can agree readily to a nerf or a location change. (Making the autocast Fairy relevant holds somewhat more appeal to me; may drop it to 40 WP, or go with the idea of a 18/27/36 WP series. Dunno yet.) I suggested removing the Speed bonus at some point, but mc was pretty adamant about keeping it, feeling that it was oddly cool to have Bards surpass Ninjas in speed.

Elemental guns are still available in a Deep Dungeon fight, although I admit they're much more out of the way now. I'll probably move the Germinas Peak rare fight back and shift the stupid optional superfight somewhere else. (For reference, Oblivion's Edge is a reverse-faith based screenwide attack. And I totally did not design that fight to be anything even remotely resembling 'fair' or 'balanced', disclaimer. Same for Nelveska, though you'll see that when you get there!)

Adramelk is... not... supposed to be vulnerable to Slow. Not that it really would have mattered with your party, anyway, but. I'll look into that. Glad you liked the fight design; it took a damn long time to come up with something I was satisfied with and after several incarnations of the fight brainstormed with mc.

Also glad you guys are taking the time and effort to scour out the aftergame - I'd greatly appreciate comments in that area, since few people have bothered with it (or at least bothered with it and given me detailed commentary) so I know what I should suggest. From all I've been told the DD could probably use a difficulty buff on some of the superfights, but they should still be quirkish enough to be interesting.

(PS: If it isn't obvious, this is Laggy posting under Melissa's account. >_>)

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General Chat / Re: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows: G'morning, 2009!

« on: January 01, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »

New Years Eve/Day brought us a blizzard, 70-80cm of snow, and 80km/h winds. Talk about starting the new year off with a bang!
Although it's kinda nice, it's the like nature was preparing itself for a new start. *gets the image of the earth putting a white blanket of snow over it's head and then pulling it off to reveal a much prettier, shinier earth*

Anywho. Happy New Year All!

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General Chat / Re: Good Morning, 2008!

« on: November 06, 2008, 04:17:41 AM »

So, I apologize first of all for the random joy to follow, but it's nice to vent to a community who... actually knows what the hell I'm talking about. >.>

SQUEEEE~!

Ahem. More to the point, Laggy and I were actually talking to HUMANS today about my getting citizenship and us getting a house and what would need to take place. Getting actual information and being able to ask questions is just such a breath of fresh air. I've been researching my butt off, but it's like pulling teeth trying to find accurate information you feel is reliable, let alone to talk to an actual person and be able to ask questions without paying fee after tax after *insert more money here* (mainly about the visas and citizenship and whatnot).

Anyway, I just needed a bit of an outlet as to how happy and relieved I am that we now have actual answers, and can plan accordingly. Again, I apologize for the random mushy...ness, but it's such a weight off my shoulders that I had to share it!
 

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Discussion / Re: DL Con 3: Aftermath

« on: July 29, 2008, 04:36:03 PM »

*tucks away Laggy photos for later us-* O hai! ^_^;;;

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 06, 2008, 11:26:53 PM »

Oh yea, something else I forgot to mention earlier.

For all those who are confused, I am, in fact, a she. >.>

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 06, 2008, 11:25:57 PM »

Ah, oki doke. Thanks.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 06, 2008, 11:22:59 PM »

Alright, back from a weekend of work and family outings and I am... overwhelmed with all the information and arguments that have been posted since I last got a chance to seriously look this over.

Ok, I'm going to start from the beginning...

First, I guess you could call it a bluff, yes, as Melsa said. In a sense, I almost vaguely hoped I could confuse the overaggro people enough, but I obviously gave this as thought as I'd give to a Die Hard movie. But the roleclaim is 100% true.

Seriously Snow, you admit you roleclaimed to get people to lynch you, and then expect us to believe your claim is 100% true. I really don't know why you expect us to trust that claim, in all honesty. That's pretty much all I have to say on him at this point. I don't trust Snow, if for no other reason than he apparently can let stupidity overtake him so much that he would find the need to roleclaim, and ask for a pity party afterward.

He clearly isn't going back to look over what was posted, but promising he would, just as on page 8.

Thanks to Corwin to pointing this out, in regard to Meeple. I admittedly didn't notice this, but you're right, he never does go back and do the analysis he promises. This only strengthens my feelings toward his lynch, and my vote is staying where it is, in case anyone was wondering.

As for Tom's post... I know I'm repeating here, but no, you being town does not make you right. I really don't know what to think of the rest of his post at the moment, my brain is still a bit mushy. 

In terms of this whole 'saying lynching someone needs to happen is scummy!' thing that's come up recently... Isn't... that the point of the game? To lynch people who seem scummy, in the end? I could understand this case on QR and Corwin pushing for a lynch if it was the beginning or middle of a day, but I'm pretty sure that point has long since passed. I see nothing wrong with promoting a little speed when it's been Day 2 for so long now, and to be entirely honest, I agree with them. At some point, you've learned as much as you're going to from general debate, and it seems that you really need some type of new information to get the ball rolling again.

Just a couple ending questions.

Meeple, for the love of god, at least attempt to thin out your posts, please?

Also, what does 'LAL' mean?

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 05, 2008, 03:50:02 AM »

When he first posted, I do admit, I was a bit concerned as to why he would do this, and I still disagree that it would have been a difficult thing to hide for long. Easy enough to stick his vote in with a bunch of others, so there could still be speculation as to who exactly was the cause of the anony-vote. At the same time, however, having heard others' arguments on the subject, I've seen that should he have tried to keep it secret, it would have blown up in his face eventually, and (providing he is town) would have been bad for town as a whole.

Ashdla, to touch on why I, and most of the people who think it was prolly a good idea for him to claim when he did, if he did that (sticking his vote in the middle of a bunch so it would be hard to tell whose vote it was) we would have lost precious time arguing about whose vote it was/why they voted/why they tried to hide it (is he scum?  third party?  why hide if TOWN!?) etc.  Having him say up front that it was him shaved off lost time trying to logic out the culprit.  I think it has been explained a few times in mafia games before (and has played out in many) which is why I thought I'd mention it since this is your first game.

Yep, thanks QR, like I said in that post, I understand why he did it, since reading people's opinions on why they thought it was a good thing.

Something else I'd like to touch on here are people's comments on my posts lacking content. I'll admit, I'm new to this. While this isn't an excuse by any means, it has taken me a bit to really see how the game is played, and what my posts should contain in terms of opinions and theories. I apologize for having a bit of a slow start, but I think this post, and any following it, should fit the flow of Mafia better.

Now more to the meat of this post.

So apparently, a couple major things happened while I was at work, or at least, they seem major to me and will be what this post is mainly about.

First off, Ciato poofing and Tai taking her place.
I... really feel odd about this. By that I mean, brand new person added is kind of... ugh, hurting my brain. I'm not sure how this'll pan out, and I'd like to see how the game progresses a bit, see Tai's play ect, in order to draw a more conclusive opinion.

Secondly, Snow's roleclaim.
Well I... this seems odd to me. Though my experience is limited, having only half the votes on you needed to lynch isn't really the give up point, is it? Honestly, this is reeking of third party to me, and wanting to get lynched. I say, if he wants to quit anyway, he should do so, and then we can not waste our votes on him. He's perfectly capable of telling Cid he wants out of the game, isn't he? (if that's not the case, I stand corrected) In my opinion, that means we should go for someone who would actually be worthwhile to lynch. Moreover, if he's town like he says he is, then we'd be wasting a lynch on a town when we could be going after scum. Frankly, I'd like to call your bluff, Snow.

Thirdly, 'this is how *insert person here* always plays!'
I don't really care who this is directed toward, but since I haven't played Mafia before, personally, I'm not going to be taking into consideration who normally plays what way. For me, it wont be an excuse to act any given way. More specifically, yes Meeple, the way you post makes it difficult to understand the main thoughts you're trying to get across. I think something like that was said in Ciato's direction also, but I didn't find it overly distracting in her case. Just wanted to put that disclaimer out there.

Lastly, who I'm voting and why.
For the reasons I've listed above, I'm not going to be jumping in the dog pile to vote for Snow. It seems off to me, as I said. What I do agree with, though, is that the passionate defense Meeple gave Shale, and his jumpy defensiveness in general seems off to me. The way he continued to support Shale and divert attention to those who had targeted him doesn't look very good. Putting such a tangible link between yourself and another player generally isn't a good idea, from what I've gathered. Also, I'd really like him to try is best to format his posts in a way that is easier to read. People easily get put off by huge walls of text, and it might encourage them to skim posts instead of reading them thoroughly as they should. Not wanting people to look too closely at what you're posting also seems scummish, and for those reasons, my vote goes here.

##Vote: Meeple

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 04, 2008, 07:54:59 PM »

Do you have people whom you find more suspicious than others? Do you have people whom have acted strange and you would like to see explain themselves over it?

To the first, not at yet, as I just explained in my post.

To the second, yes, as I explained in my post about Bardichie.

Sorry for this being such a short explanation, but I've gotta head off to work now.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 04, 2008, 07:28:32 PM »

Oi, alrighty, now that I've caught up...

Bardichie using FoS consistently seems like an alright option to me, prevents most of the problems I had detailed in my earlier post. I do agree with Laggy however that he got a bit jumpy on people discussing his claim 'all the people who think I could have used it as a smokescreen' when in fact, only one person thinks he should have kept this power hidden.

As to Corwin giving me flack for posting about everyone earlier on... At that point, I didn't have anyone in my mind who stood out to me more than the others especially, so I didn't feel the need to throw a vote out there for the hell of it. I posted all my thoughts at the time on each person, I promised a post with content, and I believe that qualifies as content. Though yes, votes are helpful, I didn't then (and still don't) know who I should sure cast my vote for, as yet.

Now I've got to head off to work, I'll think more about those under suspicion then, likely casting my vote when I get home tonight.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 04, 2008, 07:53:07 AM »

Alrighty then, I suppose I should post a pre-sleep post.

Mainly, wanting to discuss Bardichie, (what else is new!) and his roleclaim.

When he first posted, I do admit, I was a bit concerned as to why he would do this, and I still disagree that it would have been a difficult thing to hide for long. Easy enough to stick his vote in with a bunch of others, so there could still be speculation as to who exactly was the cause of the anony-vote. At the same time, however, having heard others' arguments on the subject, I've seen that should he have tried to keep it secret, it would have blown up in his face eventually, and (providing he is town) would have been bad for town as a whole.

That said it still doesn't really sit well with me for a person to be able to hold the power to lynch whomever they please, especially later in the game (which is when that would take effect due to lower vote numbers, ect).

He has said that he will refrain from using this power, which seems alright, but doesn't that also mean he can't help town lynch anyone until much later game? Unless there's something I missed in his post about it... which isn't unlikely, to not use this power would mean not to vote on anyone who got lynched. A side effect of this, would be him either not voting, or voting randomly or at lesser targets for the sake of it, both leaving no voting trail to look back on, which could end up badly, should he not be town. In either event, I'll be keeping a close watch on how many votes he actually accumulates, so I don't wake up one morning and see he can now lynch whomever he pleases.

Oh yea! Also a thanks to Strago for setting the record straight about his voting for Tom toward the very end of Day 1, I apologize for missing that, admittedly I was sort of skimming at the time.

Those are the only things jumping out at me right at the moment, I'll probably have more once I get up tomorrow and catch up on everyone else's posts.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 03, 2008, 10:07:42 PM »

Alrighty, time to post now that I'm home from work.

Just to be as clear and constructive as I can, I think I'll address Bardiche's questions to my behaviour, and then outline how I feel about each player thus far.

The reason I asked Elf to defend against a jokevote was really quite simple, I was -joking-. >.>;
Really, there's not much more to be said there, it is what it is. I do apologize if that was carrying the joke phase a bit far, I'll know better for the next game I'm in.

Secondly, the Rat thing, I was honestly suspicious of Rat, initially. I think most of us -were-, or at least a bit concerned as to what his claim might mean for the game. Since that post I have reconsidered, (actually not very long after that post) and I don't think that Rat's lack of vote warrants suspicion, as much as I know most of us are curious as to what/how it may or may not be compensated.

Lastly, I didn't exactly jump on the lynch train, that is to say, I didn't vote for OK simply because everyone else was voting for him. I did think he was suspicious, but mostly disruptive, for reasons I have since outlined in my posts.

I think that clears those things up. Moving on!

Andrew Rogue: His vote for Delta, from what I can gather from his post, was to provoke him into posting more, not necessarily a bad thing, but it does seem a bit... unproductive. However, he didn't speak from that point on, until after Tom's lynch happened, which sort of seems odd, even if you were busy with RL things. What is more curious to me, is that he voted for Delta, who he said wasn't really a threat, and then in a later post, said that he didn't approve of targeting someone unless you thought they were scummy. Sort of curious.

Ciato: She initially kept pulling people away from targeting Rat. Aside from that, most of her posts have been rather short and haven't really had much to say in them. Doesn't seem a particularly scummy target at this point, though.

Strago: Has been laying kind of low in my opinion, in that he's only posted twice, neither of which had a vote in them. Not that lack of voting is a ridiculously terrible thing to do, but it's still noteworthy, if nothing else.

Carthrat: Yes, I admit it, his no vote claim initially made me suspicious. Since then, however, I have seen the wisdom of his decision to bring it forward to early, as well as we have all seen that he isn't lying, since he voted and nothing happened. I suppose I'm neutral on him at the moment.

QuietRain: From what I have seen, she's been a fairly frequent poster so far, and her posts have all had something to say in them, as opposed to being short or filled with fluff. I can't say I have anything terribly terrible to bring to light in this case.

Bardiche: Claimed that he knew Rat could make a lynching vote earlier in the game, and then didn't really defend himself one way or another when others asked where he got this information, since Rat hadn't mentioned that himself. Whether it was an honest mistake or not, seems a bit odd to me. Moreover, I'll be honest, I don't like how he keeps gunning for me for not explaining things, even after I explain what he asked me to explain.

Elfboy: The lack of voting mildly concerns me, since I can understand the reasons he gave, not wanting Tom to be without a chance to defend himself, ect. Not really much else to say on him at this point.

Meeple: Eh... seemed adamant on blaming OK's behaviour on role madness, after laggy had quoted the rules, where they stated roles would not have a large impact on the gameplay. Other than that, I'm honestly finding Meeple hard to read.

Laggy: I haven't seen anything terribly scummy in his behaviour thus far. People seemed to jump on him rather quick for rolefishing on Rat, I'm still new to Mafia, so I'm not sure if that should be a huge no-no or not.

Shale: Called Rat out initially on proving his lack of voting power. Even though it turned out to be true, I can't say that was a bad suggestion on his part. Outside of that... has posted barely at all, most of which have been in the jokevote phase, and ant meaningful to the game.

Jo'ou Ranbu: Not voting, and potentially casting FoS at the two most likely targets to cover that up? It's a possibility. Honestly, he's posted three times so far, only one of which had any content in it.

Corwin: ...wow, I thought he had posted a lot more than he did. Huh. Maybe someone else missed this too? Other than that though, nothing terribly strikes me about him at this point.

Excal: I thought his posts were pretty logical, and agreed with most of what he has said thus far. Hasn't really seemed odd to me. Though I agree with Laggy he hasn't really brought anything new to the table, he's supported his arguments well.

Not prepared to cast a vote yet myself. Now I go eat. e_e

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day Two: Pobody's Nerfect (In Louisiana)

« on: July 03, 2008, 07:35:00 AM »

With fourteen alive, it takes eight to kill.

Mod slip up or is this genuine? I sincerely hope not.

That, sir, is a very good question. I'm quite curious myself. Dark Holy Elf, presuming Rat still has no vote, this does not compute.

As for the overnight kills, I can't say I'm terribly disappointed in the outcome. Though we didn't get scum, we got a third party, and I think the other two being gotten rid of the way they were will be beneficial to the game in general. I'm not sure myself as to who got rid of whom and why, though.

As for the present game, I can't say I have any major leads at this point.

I'm heading to bed now, and have work in the morning, so you wont see me posting for a while, but I'll read over everything when I get home and give my thoughts at that point.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 03, 2008, 04:40:03 AM »

Well then, I guess that took care of all the Day 1 potential targets in one fell swoop.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 02, 2008, 07:44:19 AM »

##Unvote: OK
##Vote: Evil Tom

Seems the town has made their decision, and I'm not opposed to a lynch for Evil Tom. Likely a more detailed post in the morning. Night for now, everyone.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 02, 2008, 02:48:50 AM »

Ninja'd by Ash - Why is OK a hindrance? Why are you lynching based on roles-etc? Why aren't you lynching the player who has shown detrimental play?

I'm not choosing OK based on his role, I'm choosing him because, role or not, the way he is behaving is disrupting the game, in that it is distracting, and generally confusing play. I believe that with this removed, things will at least be marginally easier to decipher.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 02, 2008, 02:36:57 AM »

I can agree with Bardiche in that aspect. That is, presently I find OK more of a hindrance to accomplishing anything positive in the game, however, if it is decided that EvilTom should go, I'm not opposed to supporting that.

Delta doesn't seem like a real threat to me at the moment, maybe in the future, but as Jo'ou Ranbu said, currently, there are more pressing matters.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 02, 2008, 01:16:59 AM »

My insurance won't pay for that many more refills, so let me take another couple.  Maybe Da Vinci will write for a new script.   I can't be of help when this happens.  I need something to end this pain.  A good, strong drug, delivered in high quantities...here, i'll take more of my drug the haldol is good 4 me

...ok, now I also keep my vote for OK, if for no other reason than to remove the general chaos/confusion he is/has been causing.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 02, 2008, 12:54:47 AM »

I'd like your opinions on EvilTom and OblivionKnight.

Oki then.

EvilTom- As I said previously, the seemingly random outburst from him about 'I cannot die' was sort of uncalled for that early in the game. Being unfamiliar with potential mafia roles, as I said, I'm not personally 100% sure what might prompt someone to feel safe doing that. Of course, it could always just have been a bad game move on his part. However, I don't think calling him out on his potential bluff is necessary just yet, though he is still high on my list of suspiciously acting players. That said, my vote still stays on OK, for the following reasons.

OK- From what I've seen, he has been acting odd since the beginning. Though the slip of 'us scum' at the beginning might have been discounted for being in the joke phase, the recent 'our plan' casts the same sort of doubt. However, the most recent post by him is the most curious of all yet, I think. He could be confirming that another player dictates his actions, if that is the case, the question then obviously becomes, who? Honestly, my immediate guess would be Rat, this could very easily be the power role to compensate for his lack of vote. At the same time, he spoke against EvilTom initially, where now OK is telling us not to vote for him. That could have easily just been a stunt to throw us off, or not. If it -is- the case, then removing OK from the game would eliminate that player's essentially 'two vote' power. If it's Rat (who I'm presuming is the only person with no vote power), then we take away his only real influence in the game.

Delta is now drawing some worry from me also. If he's scum, he's doing a bad job of hiding it. If he's town, his attitude is hurting more than anything.

Also, any other thoughts about who could be controlling OK, if that's the case?

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 01, 2008, 07:40:47 PM »

Oki dokie, so basically, this is what I'm gathering.

Rat- The initial hype he generated has passed over by now. If he really can't vote, I highly doubt he doesn't have some sort of power to compensate for it, or some sort of strategy in mind. Either way, I agree that saying so right off was a smart plan for him.

OK- For me, it wasn't just the slip up in the joke phase (to be honest, I didn't really catch it until it was pointed out), but more so, the voting seemingly at random, and failing to defend himself against the accusations made toward him. He seems to like accusing those who question his actions, rather than explaining himself, which puts me off a bit.

Evil Tom- To be honest, I really have no idea what he is trying to accomplish with painting the target on himself. Unless he's trying to distract attention away from someone else, or getting himself lynched triggers something super awesome for him. I'm not overly familiar with what roles can occur in Mafia, so it's a bit more difficult for me to pin people based on that. If lynching him does do nothing but lose us a town vote, then we'd be no worse off than a typical Day 1 lynch, right? There is that bomb idea that was brought up, again, I'm unfamiliar with how exactly that might work, so I'm not sure if it should be a huge concern or not.

Deltaflyer2k8- Seriously honey, talk more, and more importantly about relevant things, not your school life. Saying you have no opinion and you are just following others is... a bit sketchy if you ask me. I know you're new to the game, but I'm also playing this for the first time, so I really don't find that as an overly viable excuse in my book. In closing, opinions please!

As for my position in general right now, I'm wavering as to whether or not to switch my vote from OK to someone else. However, I'd like to hear some explanation from OK about his actions before I do so.

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 01, 2008, 07:03:21 PM »

Ashdla: Needs to talk more.

It's a wonder what sleep will do to a person.
Catching up at the moment, will post something more substantial once I have done so~

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 01, 2008, 03:50:32 AM »

- There may or may not be third parties with seperate win conditions from scum or town.

One option, which has not been raised, I believe, is that Rat could win if he gets the town in that LYLO situation, even with no vote. Just throwing some random ideas into the mix. Thoughts? With that said, I agree with those who don't think Rat should be lynched on that alone, at least, not this early in the game.

New person starting a train is worrying.  Explain your not reading things.

I didn't start the train, m'dear, perhaps you need to have a look back through the posts, hm~?

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 01, 2008, 02:18:17 AM »

##Unvote: Elfboy
##Vote: Oblivion Knight

A little change of pace, perhaps~?

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Forum Games / Re: Suicide Squad Mafia, Day One: The Foot Is Agame!

« on: July 01, 2008, 01:58:10 AM »

Frankly, if he didn't want it to be inquired into, he shouldn't have mentioned the restriction or made it more explicit.

Too true! Usually only those wanting attention make such bold statements. Why oh why does the rat want us to look at him, I wonder?