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Ok cool, let's win this!

##Vote: Miyagi

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Well, doesn't look like I can interest anyone in an Excel lynch
Not for lack of trying; Miyagi certainly did a lot of fishing for cases (on everyone except Ash). 

I don't have much to add. Let me know when you want to lynch him & I'll place my vote. I do want a detailed post from Dude though first. Until then, sleep etc.


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The forum's going in and out of existence to me
Yar.

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I really can't see anyone other than Miyagi as scum, except for a realllly unlikely Dude bus on Ash yesterday. But yeah, It's all on Miyagi.

Still, I'll wait for everyone else to 'weigh in'.

Did you know that you would weigh 84% less on the moon?

LOL @ today's headline. Nice one Cid.


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Hooray, go us! We did not lose!
Goodbye Crow. /Minority Report

Ok well I'm still after Miyagi's blood.
Dude is pretty much cleared, since he picked Ash. Khan still looks decent.

Miyagi disappeared without even placing a vote yesterday, his arguments have been flailing and sucky.

I propose Miyagi lynch.

##AlmostVote Miyagi

##Propose 4th day verb: survived

*is in good spirits*

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Right well 5 minutes left till time, so here goes.

For the record, I wanted to vote Miyagi.. but I can't complain about this one.

##Vote: Ash

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Right. Well I'm less worried about self-hammer than I am worried about some kind of last-minute fuckup. So I'll give you a couple more minutes. Hurry it up though, this is making me anxious >.>

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Less than 20 minutes to go. I'll give it another 5 before I vote.

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Blah time running out.

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Well it looks like Miyagi has done a runner.

If I could lynch two people at once, I know which two I'd pick >.>

Placing my vote on Ash as soon as Khan has posted.

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##Unvote

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Miyagi -

What, you're not going to vote? At all?
Why not?

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I'm bored so I'm going to motormouth.

Miyagi and Khan could have quickhammered and won by now, so they're obviously not a scumteam. That's confirmed.
Same goes for me and Miyagi, and me and Khan.
Any of these people could be on a team with Ash, Dude or Crow.
Ash/Dude is extremely unlikely, Ash/Crow is relatively unlikely. Same goes for Ash/Khan.

Ash/Miyagi is looking possible.

Ash hasn't bothered to say... anything. At all. Apart from a single post to avoid being modkilled. That's almost enough to lynch him on pure meta.


*gets bored waiting*
For the record, I've known only half of the characters. I knew Miyagi, Ned Flanders, Death and Queen... and obviously Excel. Is Khan that guy they yell about in Star Trek?
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

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Tin-man: basically the only thing stopping me from putting a vote down immediately for all of that is that I want to get more of my opinions out before the end of this day. You may go to sleep knowing that my vote will reach him before the deadline, and if there's any concern at all then at the very worst I can't imagine Miss Excel not changing her vote over as well.

Hmm well I guess I'll wait for that then. Looks like I'll be forced to vote Ash in any case. *yawn*

So Ash, not that it probably matters, but anything to say about being at 'school' for 25 hours?

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*wakes up horribly early* uughhhhh.

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Any reservations I might've had pretty much evaporated when less than 12 minutes after my post pointing out Ash's rulebreaking to boost Team Scum's chances he turned out to have been here all along.
Point taken.

1 hour left or something? Decision time soon. I need a cuppa first.

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Do you really think Ash is that townish?
No. The lurking is killing his cred. But at the same time, I don't think Miyagi is townish. It's almost at the point for me where Ash = Miyagi.

I'm not sure what to do. If I vote Miyagi, we get split votes.

If I vote Ash, we might get scumhammered by Miyagi/whoever.

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Arg hate go for Miyagi if you must vote now, leaving, etc, don't want two votes on Ash before Ash posts.
Yep.

I think split votes is the better situation. At least if there's sudden death between a town train and a scum train, I can log on tomorrow and move my vote then.

##Vote: Miyagi

See you all when  I wake up, when hopefully we haven't lost.

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I mean, I'd rather vote Ash than endanger the lynch by voting Miyagi, despite Miyagi > Ash. Though as Ash has been lurking, it's more like Miyagi = Ash >.<

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Well, should I join you on Ash & sleep? Or put mine on Miyagi? If we split votes, will that put our lynch in danger?

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Because you didn't read my post properly.
Crow looks towny to me. But if you flipped scum, I would look at Crow because he saved you on yesterday's block.
Until then, the order of scummitude goes you, then Ash.

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My argument is that you avoided answering the question
I did answer the question. I've explained whyso.

If I don't hear from others soon, I'm going to have to place my vote. It's been an hour since I said I would, and haven't heard from Khan since then.

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Dude - Ash hasn't been around, but what about Miyagi's recent flailing?

If Crow and Khan weigh in against Ash then I'll go along with that, but I don't want to discount Miyagi just because he's around and Ash isn't.

Khan - post please? Need to hear your thoughts on Ash v Miyagi

Crow - if you had time to post that, you could have at least said whether you favour Ash or Miyagi >.>" but ok, I'll be asleep by the time you finish work or whatever.

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If I wanted to "fly under the radar" I would have adopted a playstyle where I merely comment on cases already made and provide a vote then and there. I would, under no circumstance, bother opening a Day 2 with a case on someone. If my strategy was to fly under the radar, then that move is directly counter to intention since the first post is a potential day starter.
Ok, you came out with one attack. But as I said, I wasn't going to reference individual posts, I was looking at your overall gameplay. One attack does not a game make.


The accusation about flavor is silly to me. If something was unclear, someone could've asked and I would respond to it if I read it, or otherwise they could remind me. Indeed, they requested I dropped it, but I also valued anonimity which I feel I've lost the moment I began talking like I normally do..
If memory serves me correctly, at one point somebody asked you to drop flavour, and you flat-out refused.


As far as Excel goes, I don't have much of a case on her that brims with originality compared to others. As I said, refer to Khan for arguments regarding her activity, but there's also some minor things.
If I wanted to "fly under the radar" I would have adopted a playstyle where I merely comment on cases already made and provide a vote then and there.
I don't have much of a case on her that brims with originality compared to others. As I said, refer to Khan
I merely comment on cases already made



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The idea that I'd try and draw attention for myself...  "But why would someone get that kind of attention, one might ask?" - you didn't really even answer that question yourself. You just said that day 1 is a good time to do it; but why would I want to do that?

Crow raises an argument against her, and rather than debunk it she first throws in a lot of fluff flavor and then counters his argument with a question, leaving it up to the reader to debunk his argument instead of doing so herself.
Crow said that I was trying to draw attention to myself. I replied that there would be no motive for such an action.
I replied perfectly. Why is this scummy? You're just copy-pasting other people's arguments rather than coming up with your own.


Ninja'd by her, which is convenient!
Yes, it's all part of my master plan. I hacked your computer so that I know exactly when to post so that I can ninja you  :-\

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Aside from the things I just replied to, the rest of Miyagi's "arguments" are just a report on the things I did.
Reporter-style posting is useless.

Ninja Miyagi:
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By saying, "Town wouldn't lie" and "Nobody would believe", you're automagically putting words in everyone's mouths instantly and forming a policy for them.
Er what? Are you saying that town should lie, and we should believe lieing town? What?

Ninja by Dude: Argh. I really want to vote Miyagi Dude.
Crow/Khan? Are you guys still going after Ash too?
Or has Miyagi dug a grave for himself enough that you dislike him too?

Ninja again:
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She's proven quite capable of formulating cases and arguments as per her discussion against you.
Miyagi, just because I once voted for Khan doesn't mean he's going to ignore all the facts and revenge-vote me. And nobody thinks I'm insane (just as much as we think you're Japanese and know martial arts).

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But the line of thought Excel presented in that she is "likely not to be scum because of delayed roleclaim and THE TRAPS for scum" is something I vehemently disagree with. There are ways for scum to utilize this as well and turn the tables on a real Cop by calling their validity into question, not to mention that if we have a Town Cop and Excel claimed Cop, someone could've countered her. What if Dude, for example, is a Cop but held silent since he had nothing conclusive that could point him towards scum? I can easily see myself being persuaded by ANYONE other than Excel being the actual Town Cop. Please tell me if you do not understand this point, I will be glad to expand on this if necessary.
I'll start with this one.
Why would town lie on roleclaim at LYLO?
Answer: they wouldn't.
Who would believe someoen who admits they lied at LYLO?
Answer: nobody.

Your hypothesis is completely flawed. We've already discussed my vanilla roleclaim to death, and pretty much everyone agrees that it was pro-town.

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Oh, I was so shocked by Miyagi's post I forgot to say that I'll only be on for approx another hour max. I'll be placing a vote at that point then going to sleep.

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I'm only going to be around for maybe another hour. I'm hoping for a consensus on Miyagi, but hypothetically if I couldn't vote Miyagi, Ash would be my second preference.

FOS: Miyagi (using FOS right now till we reach a consensus).

Ninja that badly needs answering -
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I'd like to first say that aside from Excel, the Queen has been supportive of me as well. I therefore deduce that such things aren't likely "scum pairing tells", given that Queen is a Townie.
You've said 2 things there, and I find fault with both of them. Invoking the word of a dead towny is a pretty lame move. Now is not the time for metagame discussion though.
Also, I was never overly supportive of you. In one post I said I couldn't see much wrong with you, but I think that was back in early day 2? It certainly wasn't a recent opinion.
Considering I'm promoting your lynch, I hardly see how you can cite me as supporting you :S

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I can, however, still try to compensate by weighing in right now.

I think Excel is most scummy at this moment.
.....so.... er...
Why? OMGUS?
I eagerly await your 'next post' which will hopefully provide some reasons for this ~_~

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I want Miyagi to be more active.
Is that all on Miyagi? Care to explain a little more? Can I have your thoughts on him at the current moment please?

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Khan; I'm glad you've come around to seeing my point of view on the no-cop setup. Hopefully this latest explains my latest thoughts. I didn't really detail the others though, so I'll do that a bit more now:

The dude / Ash - I agree with you that The Dude has been a lot more transparent, even with the flavour text.
But Ash seems to match the general playstyle of *coughcough*. The latter of which gives me a neutral read at most. Dude has seemed generally towny overall, and in individual posts. They've been consise, analytical and probing, but also level-headed and on-topic.

Crow has seemed like a watered-down version of Dude, but a little more hot-headed. In individual posts he's been ok, but I feel that he's not quite as town in the overall view. If Miyagi flips scum, then he'll drop into scum territory for saving Miyagi from yesterday's block.

Ash - Certainly harder to read than Dude through the flavour. But I haven't felt anything scummy from him. He's been clear and concise too, but with less probing than Dude. He's in the neutral category for me because I don't have a lot to say about him frankly.

And yeah, I detailed Miyagi. So I propose Miyagi is the way forward. Waiting for comments.

I'm in full agreement that we can't run this to the wire. Scum won't be nice if we hit sudden death ~_~

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