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Forum Games / Re: Anonyrandomafia: On the third day, they (insert verb here).
« on: October 27, 2008, 11:27:36 PM »
Looooooooooow blow, Crow. School in summertime type stuff.
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And yet, you offer no explanation or excuse for how you spotted my day-ending post and made yours within a minute of it appearing. It does feel like a moderate psychic capacity.
http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=2205.msg38327#msg38327
This post by Ash bothers me. That it's the only Ash post today also bothers me, as does what we saw of him near the end of day 2.QuoteSorry about my last post of yesterday, I got Ninja'd*Crazy Number. When I saw the vote I just clicked post as fast as I could without going back to revise.
Contrast with said end of day 2 post: http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=2205.msg38261#msg38261
In fact, this post showed up within sixty seconds of my hammer which ended the sudden death mode. I only took us into sudden death to hear from people, and to get Yangus's explanation, if any, for his bizarre vote out of the blue/prolonged disappearance. The person I stated wanting to hear the most aside from Yangus, originally, was Ash. I wasn't alone in this.
So why wouldn't Ash make a brief 'finally here, reading/writing a post' notice like we got from Miyagi, Excel and Yangus? If he knew we wanted to hear from him, having it would have ensured my waiting. I specified I wouldn't keep sudden death beyond two hours at the most, and we were approaching the one hour mark. Yangus and Excel seemed to be on the verge of voting, given their posts.
I suppose it could be claimed that you got ninja'd a lot and couldn't read them all BUT you posted within a minute of my hammer. I can't reconcile checking the thread thoroughly enough for day-ending events and missing the intent to end it from Excel and Yangus.
At this time, I would just like to hear an explanation from Ash.
I do wonder whether Miyagi and Yangus are scum together, and as the latter was about to self-destruct anyway he tried to draw the lynch away from Miyagi. The frustration is so strong, with people outright lurking and then snapping back when called on said lurking to boot.
Miyagi's switch onto Yangus worries me. Not because I don't think Yangus is scummy, but because it switches from a person he has a good argument for to someone he has a generic lurker argument for. Comment, Miyagi?
Yeah. Yeah, this hits pretty fucking precisely on why I'm still not comfy-cozy with the jap. He opens the day with a relatively fucking detailed and complex argument against Khan, defends it when Crow and I submit our concerns, and then... after Khan's own response, retracts the vote very quietly and moves on to Yangus. And I feel like a fucking load of us have expressed at least mild or tacit concern with that particular limey asshole, so the venture seems a lot safer than his thrust against Khan. Thanks for helping me to kick my mind grapes into gear, Ash.
Time to plug through the Excel/Khan bullshit, I guess.
And actually, on reflection that's about all I can pick at there. Maybe I'm just tired, but I can't feel the same unbounded ire I could before. Maybe it's just because you're not stepping up every five minutes to prod me in the back. If it wasn't for the incredibly suspect reasoning on me and said popping up then I wouldn't be feeling so clear.
No, it's not your vote on me that makes or breaks, it's the being so sure on me for what seems flimsy material. If you're so sure on me as you say you are, then I'd be expecting more to defend against by now. If you're not so sure, then moving to a bigger target would be reasonable given that that would be, you know, what you actually thought. I can't see the justification behind lying about your views to avoid votes, when it helps no one.
I'm also not sure if I feel like Ash's response to all of Khan's posting in the past couple pages strikes me as... well, fucking adequate, given the fact that his vote's still sitting on Khan. His staying on Khan seems a little stubborn, in a way that looks to me like a planet eater happy to stay on a train that's growing faster than any other... except now, Miyagi's jumped off Khan to Yangus. And Ash continues to be anti-Khan by way of being anti-Miyagi in this fucking situation, citing how great Miyagi's argument against Khan was.
I'll also say -- and I know that it flies in the fucking face of this game's premise, but I'll play with the cards I've been dealt, man -- that Sopko-Ash is acting in a manner that's eerily fucking reminiscent of the behavior with which I've seen him play scum. Curt, and dismissive in a way that's a little fucking rude sometimes. I'm not gonna put too much stock in this just yet, but my gut's trying to tell me something and I can't ignore it completely.
Man, fuck this. Ash and Miyagi both seem scummy to me in ways I can't easily fucking reconcile if they're partners. At the beginning of the day I entertained the thought that they were scumbuddies using a risky but, you know, potentially fucking profitable simultaneous attack gambit. Could still be the case, though, I guess. It's not like Ash has been particularly fucking vociferous with his recent Miyagi suspicions.
Alright, now, I’m not fucking fantastic at math, as if you couldn’t guess, but how would 3 scum put us in LYLO right now? There’s eight of us, so assuming we lynch one of the good guys and then the planet eaters get off a successful nightkill, doesn’t that put us at 3-town/3-scum? You know, not enough for the scum to lynch on their own? When Khan first mentioned that we’re assured right now of having two scum I just assumed someone would correct him, but now Ash is going “oh hey man yeah good thinking must be two scum.” Does somebody feel like correcting my math? Or… is Ash’s eagerness to present the idea of a merely two-scum situation as potentially scummy as I think it might fucking be?
Looking over things. More to come this afternoon some time.
The anger really hasn't helped up to the point that I've realized by reading more than one post at a time that it's almost certainly at least mostly flavor. Reactionary votes on the foul fiend Death and Miss Excel, the push on the latter in particular, tempered with going with the flow (I like how you're hitting me for my flittiness over the Mr. Flanders and little queen issue but were only a few hours in the green away from the same position, for what I imagine is mostly the same rationale, other than the threat to jump right back on the little queen). Bizarre connections with and support of Mr. Yangus places Mr. Ash / Mr. Yangus as my most likely pair at this point.
(Yes, I'm assuming a pair, don't jump on me for that. One would be crazy weak [and would pretty much have to be the little queen, given that her roleblocking claim would necessarily be a lie], and three would be LYLO as of the foul fiend's disappearance, which has not been announced from the heavens as we were told it would be)
I’m having some… you know, some difficulty reading Crow’s signals. I get that he’s a fucking robot and all, so maybe that makes sense. I don’t know, man. Sort of a vague read of townieness, but I’m having a hard time getting shit from him.
Similar reaction to Yangus, but for some reason my gut calls him more likely to be a planet eater. I get a major follower vibe from the guy, dig? It’s like… I don’t know, he just fucking, sort of… flows with the prevailing fucking current in a way that speaks to not wanting to… uh, make waves, since I’m already doing the whole aqueous thing here. There’s also an interesting moment here ( http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php?topic=2205.msg37832#msg37832) where he fingers Ash in one of those “eh I’ll call you out for something but be pretty meek about it and never follow up on it. This is gonna matter later.
Look, I just did a re-read of the topic, and I’m convinced that any sweeping fucking… platitudes about Khan’s flavor text being some kind of fucking planet eater disguise are just gonna get the middle finger from me. I get the criticism of his sudden death behavior, but I’ve also already gone over the non-scummy way I read it to begin with. So, probably town?
Ash is funny. He… huh. You know, I’d originally pegged him as one of the good guys, but upon further analysis I’m a lot less fucking certain. He seems guilty of a fair bit of “me-tooism,” and just generally doesn’t have a lot of robustness to his argumentation. There’s jumping on Excel, which I get but didn’t agree with, and then the fucking needling of Khan for shit about his style which I find specious. And the immediate kneejerk to “Khan must be a fucking planet eater” near the end of yesterday.
I think the mask’ll be coming off a bit in this post. People are probably tired of the endless string of profanities anyway.
QuoteDoes anyone have a problem with getting rid of Queen Liz right now?The Dude, shouldn't we wait for the Queen to reply? Of course she is in the way of Lord Il Palazzo-sama, so she must die! But still. I completely agree with you The Dude, except I'd like to hear a reply.
I wasn't calling for her immediate fucking dispatch, kid. I was asking for more of the fucking freakshow to weigh in significantly. But instead I get...QuoteEDITED BY NINJAS!!!! - oh nooooooO! I forgot, the deadline, it draws near! I won't be able to post again for a while (real life? what is this real life?) so I shall put down a vote ##Vote: QueenQuoteIf no said defense takes place to my satisfaction within a few hours, with the deadline and all, I might change my mind. But I don't think that time is here just yet.Queen is at L-1, please don't lynch until she posts. Or deadline. I want her to have a chance to respond first
... this. You're really making my head hurt, man. Could you please just, at least, fucking... pretend to make some sense. Or lower your voice. It's like a fucking chihuahua on speed. And what's the reasoning behind placing a vote at this point when all you've said in attack of Lizzie is "I agree with the Dude but also think he's being too hasty"? Are you really suddenly that concerned that Liz might not get her head blown off? It's not like we need the six votes to make her swing, you know? She'll fucking... she'll die anyway. All I can think of as a kind of reasonable justification for that is that you're worried about either Death or Ned, who I'm pretty sure were the only two assholes at the moment within a vote of Queenie. The only ones who'd probably end up winning the vote-contest if Queenie didn't.
But this is some tricky shit, man. If I follow this logical process to it's, you know, it's fucking conclusion, I've gotta think Excel is one of these Planet Eater fucks. And given who she's voting in order to protect (in my, you know, in this analysis), her Planet Eater buddy would be either Ned or Death. Shit, maybe both, three doesn't seem entirely unreasonable in a group of eleven. So that makes a kind of sense to me, right? Except at the same time it seems... way too easy. Shit, man. Fucking shit. What the fuck is going on here?
...I am very tired. >.>
Ash, why is bad maths scummy seriously why?!
Ok signing off!!! zzz
Queen is at L-1
Welcome to the Twilight Zone, a world where 4 votes is L-1 when it takes 6 to lynch.
Maple Street and its fine citizens can, of course, be saved, if it looks beyond the seeds of prejudice and toward the wicked gardeners trying to fertilize those seeds. Gardeners such as Ash, nourishing the seeds by aggressively jumping to the defense of one who did not need it.
##Unvote: Khan
##Vote: Ash
I know you've got your cruise control for cool and all that, but neither your words nor actions make sense one bit. In fact, placing the third vote on me for such a superfluous reason means you're the most suspicious of the lot. It's also pretty troublesome this dude has a jokevote on me remaining if this really is the so-called serious stage. Not that Death would comment on that. But maybe discussion on the lack or existence of legs works for content. When this dude person does it, of course. Not for me. Because Death discriminates against ROBOTS. Clearly, Death cannot come for me, and wants to use others to do his dirty work. That's B-movie villain behavior right there, that and his cheap-looking cloak.