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Tournaments / Re: Spooky hat tourney: Extra battles
« on: November 21, 2024, 01:01:13 AM »
Team Hair Ribbon vs. Team Fedora - Paula is dead weight...  Flip side, so are Greg and Irvine.  Yuber has to kill Hina before she can get going, and then the team doesn't have the chops to get past Flonne soloing them.

Lucca (CT), Cristo (D5), Riesz (SD3), Princess Toadstool (SMRPG)
vs
Meladoul (FFT: WotL), Kain (FF4), Red Mage (FF5), Albert Simon (SH)

I...  Think?  Cristo existing makes evasion worthless for the lower team, but Cristo eats a Toad and Princess Toadstool can't block all of Red Mage's statuses.  The 25% comprehensive Evasion to everyone else from Cristo's Evilities could swing things, but I'm thinking it might not be enough?  Flipside, Cristo pops Mind Break on Red Mage to try to dumpster their status accuracy, since Cristo is fractionally faster..  I dunno, I'm swinging a lot of this, and am open to arguments.  My main thought is that top team is able to last just enough to see Lucca get a turn, and she sees 100% Hypno Wave so they can swing down Simon.

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Tournaments / Re: Spooky hat season: a themed team tourney - nominations
« on: November 01, 2024, 12:36:00 AM »
I honestly don't know how the noms are supposed to be handled, but.

Godlike
Hair Ribbon - Hina Kagiyama (LoT2)
Bandanna - Tir McDohl (S1)

Heavy
Baseball Cap - Ness (EB)
Newsboy Cap? - Mario (SMRPG)

Middle
Metal Cap - Lucca (CT)
Devil Horns - Cristo (D5)

Light
Hair Ribbon - Paula (EB)
Helmet - Kain (FF4)

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Godlike:

Mewtwo (PKMN) vs. Shania (SH:FtNW) - Even though every other instance of Mewtwo probably loses (I'd need to double-check my math), Gen 1 exists to not have a Dark Weakness and be overwhelmingly powerful.  Mewtwo goes first, opens with Barrier, and now Shania doesn't have a way to actually kill.

Heavy:

Nel Zelpher (SO3) vs. Lady Elmina Harken (WA:ACF) - Repeat.

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Heavy:

Lady Elmina Harken (WA:ACF) vs. Geno (SMRPG) - I know this is a rematch, and this is going to sound really stupid, but hear me out.  In the normal set-up, Geno loses no matter the situation.  However, if Geno goes Work Pants...  I'm assuming for sake of argument that Geno is taking 10% more damage for the drop in Defense for the extra Magic Attack.  Trying to figure out the turns, I'm thinking the actions look like this:
Since it's like...  Work Pants Geno goes Boost -> 1-Star Flash (deals 41.6%) -> Max Flash (deals 66.6%)
Assuming like...  10% more damage on Geno for going Work Pants, if he gets the first turn and pops Boost, then...  Geno (Boost) -> Azrael (Geno: 77%) -> Azrael (Geno: 54%) -> 1-Star Flash (Harken: 58%) -> Maximum Risk (Geno: 9%) -> Max-Star Flash (Harken: -9%, which is to say, less than 0 which is dead)

That said, if someone wants to check my math, I'd be all for that.

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Godlike:

Losers:

Terra Branford (FF6) vs. Shania (SH:FtNW)

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Godlike:

Velius (FFT) vs. Shania (SH:FtNW) - Shania drops the Flare Brooch so she can equip both a Zodiac Bracelet and Cosmic Bracelet.  It's been explained to me that FFT Confusion doesn't actually help with stopping Shania from killing Velius.

Heavy:

Asellus (SaGa) vs. Hildegarde Valentine (SH:FtNW) - Hilda really wishes she could access good magical damage, healing, and Energy Charge all at once.

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Tournaments / Re: Futurama 2023 Week 1
« on: January 07, 2024, 11:01:53 PM »
Godlike

Heat (Digital Devil Saga) vs Marisa Kirasame (Labyrinth of Touhou) - Unfortunate for the Frail Ryu2 clone.

Heavy

Mystic Knight (Final Fantasy V) vs Harbinger (Etrian Odyssey Nexus)

Middle

Empoleon (Pokémon) vs Minorio Aki (Labyrinth of Touhou 2) - I don't think even the Confusion is enough to let Empoleon win here.

Light

Thief (Final Fantasy V) vs Corselia (Suikoden Tactics)
Primrose Azelhart (Octopath Traveler) vs Seraphina (Disgaea 5)

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Discussion / Re: The RPGDL Card Game - Blame Djinn for this one
« on: December 27, 2023, 08:53:54 AM »
Djinn told me to draw up some FF4 card ideas, so...

Cecil, the Dark Knight
Sword, Dark Knight
HP: 5
ATK/MAG/AGL: 5/5/4
Active: Darkness - Deal self 2 damage: Discard 2 Hand Cards; your attack this turn deals 2 extra damage to one target.

Ability Cards:
Dark Wave - Deal self 2 damage.  Deals MAG damage to all enemy characters.  Discard 2 cards at the end of damage calculation.
Valiant Blow - PHY damage.  Discard 1 card: Move target back 1 row.
Gravity Ball - MAG damage.  Target cannot change rows on their next turn.


Equipment:
Shadowblade - Sword - If equipped to Dark Knight, PHY+1.  If equipped to Cecil, PHY+1.
Deathbringer - Sword - Discard one hand card to equip.  If equipped to Dark Knight, PHY+2.  If equipped to Cecil, MAG+2 and AGL+2



Cecil, the Paladin
Sword, White, Paladin
HP: 7
ATK/MAG/AGL: 4/3/2
Passive: Cover - If a targeted party member has 2 or less HP for a PHY or AGL attack, this character becomes the new target.

Ability Cards:
Cure - Discard 1 card: if target character has less HP than max, place 1 random card from your hand face-down in that character's HP Pile
Esuna - Remove ally's negative status effect
Protect - PHY and AGL attacks do 1 less damage to target ally until the start of Cecil's next turn
Shell - MAG attacks do 2 less damage to target ally until the start of Cecil's next turn

Equipment:
Lusterous Shield - If Equipped to Paladin, PHY attacks deal 1 less damage.  If equipped to Cecil, AGL attacks deal 1 less damage.
Crystal Shield - Discard 1 Hand Card to equip.  If Equipped to Paladin, PHY and MAG attacks deal 1 less damage.  If equipped to Cecil, AGL attacks deal 1 less damage.

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Tournaments / Re: Futurama 2023 NOMS
« on: December 20, 2023, 06:20:26 AM »
Ranked

Godlike - Shania (SH3), Terra (FF6)
Heavy - Hildagarde Valentine (SH3), Shadow (FF6)
Middle - Ricardo (SH3), Mog (FF6)
Light - Mao (SH3), Umaro (FF6)


Not Ranked

Godlike - Nisa (Disgaea 5), Marisa (LoT2)
Heavy - Flonne (Disgaea 5), Tenshi Hinanawi (LoT2)
Middle - Cristo (Disgaea 5), Minorio Aki (LoT2)
Light - Logan (Disgaea 5), Rinnosuke (LoT2)

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Godlike:

T260G (SaGa) vs. Belial (WA4) - 2RKOs, and Belial doesn't kill in time.


Heavy:

Emelia (SaGa) vs. Edgar Roni Figaro (FF6) - Rematch


Middle:

Red XIII (FF7) vs. Byleth Eisner (FE3H) - I'm very interested in seeing the math on this one.


Light:

Virginia Maxwell (WA3) vs. Heather (FE10) - Rematch

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Godlike:

Fenrir (VP1) vs. Belial (WA4) Fenrir can't even hurt Belial before 50% HP, and Belial can probably come close enough to killing on a Triple.


Heavy:

Levin Brenton (WAXF) vs. Edgar Roni Figaro (FF6) - One miss at a bad time for Edgar to win, though Levin does still have an argument.

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Godlike:

Winners:

T260G (SaGa) vs. Fenrir (VP1)

Losers:

Rika (PSIV) vs. Belial (WA4)


Heavy:

Winners:

Levin Brenton (WAXF) vs. Emelia (SaGa)

Losers:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Lilka (WA2) - It's funny to think about, but very solidly Edgar's fight here.


Middle:

Winners:

Red XIII (FF7) vs. Tony (WA4) - Doesn't Red's physical deal just as much damage as his L1 anyway?


Light:

Winners:

Heather (FE10) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)

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Godlike:

Belial (WA4) vs. Killer (SH3)


Heavy:

Edgar (FF6) vs. Asellus (SaGa)
Ness (EB) vs. Lilka (WA2)


Light:

Karn(BoF1) vs. Queen (S3)

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Godlike:

Winners:

Killer (SH3) vs. T260G (SaGa) - My memory is kinda bad, but the dregs of it say that Killer can't threaten T260G the normal way, and she can just set up and make him go boom.

Losers:

Arceus (PKMN) vs. Sir Leopold (DQ8) - Ghost Plate blocks the biggest way I'd hype Leopold.
Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket) vs. Nailah (FE10)


Heavy:

Winners:

Levin Brenton (WAXF) vs. Lilka (WA2) - I...  Want to say Levin, but I don't know enough about XF to be sure.
Emelia (SaGa) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - EDIT: There were details I forgot.

Losers:

Eirika (FE8) vs. Edgar (FF6) - Noiseblaster, yeah.
Auron (FFX) vs. Ness (EB) - Auron uses Initiative Zombie Attack to break Ness's biggest gimmick.  Ness counters with PSI Paralysis, which doesn't wear off, shuts off all physicals, and Auron can do *nothing* about.


Middle:

Winners:

Red XIII (FF7) vs. Elena (G2) - Unless I'm missing something big, Red is faster, 2HKOs with his physical, and equips a Headband to block Sleep.  I'm not sure there's anything Elena can do to stop that.



Light:

Winners:

Queen (S3) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - While the way I see Suikoden 3 attacks working means Queen's getting at least one attack through Ginny's Evade, but then Ginny's building up FP like crazy for Gatlings that'd probably kill Queen a lot easier...  Hm.  Kneejerking this for now, but I'm open to interpretation.

Losers:

Poshul(CC) vs. Selphie(FF8) - While it's Poshul, FF8 hates the level of damage control any CC character has.

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Godlike:

Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Jowy Atreides(S2) - I...  Want to say Jowy's evasion is good enough here?


Heavy:

Kanji (P4) vs. Edgar (FF6)
Ness (EB) vs. Alicia (VP2) - Yeah, I think an ID blocker that takes multiple uncommon drops from the final dungeon to craft one is a bit far for my allowances.


Middle:

:D


Light:

Edward (FF4) vs. Karn(BoF1) - Karn 2HKOs, and there's nothing Edward can do to stop that.  In fact, Edward should've lost to Berserker due to Confusion immunity being a built-in perk of the Berserk passive (and then Berserker probably would've won here), but here we are.
Boco (FFT) vs. Selphie(FF8)

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Godlike

Rayquaza (PKMN) vs. Killer (SH3) - ID

Heavy

Lilka (WA2) vs. Auron (FFX) - Auron does not have the tools to deal with infinite Lilka, and she get buff up to the stratosphere before he gets dangerous.
Edgar (FF6) vs. Emelia (SaGa) - Perfect spoiler
Asellus (SaGa) vs. Eirika (FE8) - Perfect spoiler


Middle

Red XIII (FF7) vs. Anastasia (SH2) - I'm only 70% certain on this one rather than 100%, but still.


Light

Virginia Maxwell (WA3) vs. Karn (BoF1) - Karn possible has better outright damage, but much worse damage per turn thanks to Ginny evade.

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Godlike:

Magus (CT) vs. Arceus (PKMN) - I'll think about this one later.
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. Chaos (FF1) - This one too.
Belial (WA4) vs. Edelgard (FE3H) - Does Edelgard even have a way around the Distortion?


Heavy:

Haishao (XG) vs. Kanji (P4) - Does...  Does Haishao have a regular physical, or does P4G Kanji just 100% spoil him instead of 80% spoiling him?
Ness (EB) vs. Worker 8 (FFT) - Compress doesn't actually ID according to the BMG on GameFAQs, despite the ability tooltip in-game.  Unless I can be shown video evidence contradicting that...  Ness alternates physicals and Lifeup Gamma with the occasional cast of Shield Beta to win, since W8 3HKOs with Crush at best.


Middle:

No Votes


Light:

Edward (FF4) vs. Berserker (FF5) - 2HKO vs. 8HKO.  The only way Edward could win this is if he Sings Berserker to sleep and Harps don't wake them up, which...  I think it doesn't work like that?
Peppor (CC) vs. Lelei (S5) - I don't...  I don't want to think about this one, so I'm just going to guess.  Open to even the slightest interpretations.
Boco (FFT) vs. Mogu (BoF1) - Again, less bad.

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Godlike

Jowy Atreides (S2) vs. Belial (WA4) (No 4D Pocket) - Gets a turn, and Hungry Fiend OHKOs.
Shania (SH3) vs. Jenna Angel (DDS) - This almost feels unfair.


Heavy

Guv(DQ8) (No Call Team) vs. Edgar (FF6) - Guv can open with Dragon Soul!...  And then Edgar NoiseBlasters him to infinity.  If Guv winds up FullHealing Edgar at some point during that, then he can follow up with Air Anchor and just win.
Ness (EB) vs. Asellus (SaGa) - DeadEnd


Middle

No votes


Light

Boco (FFT) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - I don't think Ginny can overcome Choco Heal.  She might, but not fast enough to win. I FORGOT ABOUT THE EVASION.
Karn (BoF1) vs. Mogu (BoF1) - Slightly less awful.

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Thanks for the reminder - I think my backup damage listed for Kanji is too low, meaning he deals 263 with Tarukaja'd Ziodyne rather than 210.  Irrelevant this match (especially if you allow the universal Lightningproof armor), of course.  That said, what do you propose Kanji use instead?  Persona physical skills don't care about weapon stats, so weapon stats only matter for regular attacks, All-Out Attacks (DL-irrelevant), and any other affixes on them like the Lightning damage boost.  Really normally it's just option 3 since improving basic attacks just totally doesn't matter.  I know I kept Yu equipped with the Sharp Shovel from Kanji's dungeon throughout the entire damn game because it offers Auto-Tarukaja and Who Cares what else.

Okay, I wasn't aware about the offense stat of the weapon not mattering.  That said, a quick look on a guide says that the Power Plate has Strength +3 for a little more damage, and if you allow things from Yomotsu Hirasaka, then the Aegis Shield has Endurance +10 (and if not, the Demon Shield has Endurance +4).

That said, I could offer a counter-argument for if/when Auron gets a turn 2: how do you see Zombie Break interacting with Regenerator (which I bring up because FFX Zombie apparently catches Regen for damage)?

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Godlike:

Rayquaza (PKMN) vs. Magus (CT) - ORAS is legal and means MegaQuaza has a singular path to victory if he uses Rest/Dragon Ascent/Dragon Dance/Dragon Pulse.
Killer (SH3) vs. Arceus (PKMN) - 100% ID, or Seal completely screwing the PokeGod over.  Take your pick.
Sir Leopold (DQ8) vs. T260G (SaGa) - T260G almost OHKOs.  Leopold definitely ORKOs back, I think.  Assuming he can double-crit on command.


Heavy:

Kanji (P4) vs. Auron (FFX) - Initiative Power Break and Armor with SOS Protect + Lightningproof makes Kanji very, very sad.  I actually had to look up P4G Kanji after Snowfire brought it up, but...  I'm not sure it changes the math much, since Tarukaja falls off after the third turn, and Primal Force is chewing through a lot of Kanji's HP as it is.  Auron doesn't start out scary, but he gets scary later, so as long as his damage can keep up with the regen after halving, then it should be manageable.  I'd have to math it out sometime else...  And also question why the P4G topic has a weapon on Kanji that pretends his Ziodyne can be worthwhile, instead of something for pure physical damage.  I dunno, I'm almost leaning abstain at this point, but I'll go with my gut for now.


Middle:

Red XIII (FF7) vs. Juno (SN) - I shouldn't actually be voting on this because no Soul Nomad, but...  Based on what I could interpret, Red XIII could basically be seen as a Phynx, which is completely neutral to Juno.  After that...  They both 3HKO each other, but Red's faster.  Energize can make Red have to take four turns to kill Juno, but Red is still faster and that takes up Juno's turn anyway, so it's a wash.
Anastasia Romanov(SH2) vs. Byleth (FE3H) - Euthanasia or Nightmare, take your pick.


Light:

Selphie (FF8) vs. Berserker (FF5) - I'm willing to hype Death Sickle. Okay, so new info.  The 33% Proc chance of Death can actually fail, so I'm going to toss that out.  I'd then instantly give it to Selphie, but uh...  The randomness of Axe swings does mean that Berserker could just blow past a Limit, and they're getting at least two chances at that before Selphie swings can overwhelm them.  Selphie can also get knocked into an unfavorable limit range that gives her garbage even after fishing for the limit, meaning she loses a lot of momentum for turn order.  Flipside, the randomness of Axe damage could also throw Selphie into a good Crisis tier, and she just ends the match there with some fishing.  This is literally a match of, "Time to roll the dice," and this time I flipped a coin and it landed Berserker anyway, so...  That.
Poshul (CC) vs. Lelei (S5) - At least Poshul has bulk and average damage.  Lelei doesn't even come close to having that.

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Tournaments / Re: RPGVO 2023 Nomination Thread
« on: August 06, 2023, 04:36:53 AM »
Godlike:
Ryu Bateson (BoF2)
Cecilia Lynn Adelhyde (WA)
Tir McDohl (Suikos)
Shania (SH3)
Terra Branford (FF6)
Sir Leopold (DQ8)

Heavy:
Jean (BoF2)
Lilka Eleniak (WA2)
Ernst (S5)
Hilda Valentine (SH3)
Freya Crescent (FF9)
Ness (EB)


Middle:
Katt (BoF2)
Gallows Caradine (WA3)
Tengaar (Suikos)
Blanca (SH2)
Red XIII (FF7)
Poo (EB)


Light:
Sten (BoF2)
Tim Rhymeless (WA2)
Chiepoo (S4)
Mao (SH3)
Berserer (FF5)
Jeff (EB)

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Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Nash Latkje (Suikoden 3) - Nash activates Revenge increases three times per turn, and Killia starting with Fists means that he has a ~50% evade rate which knocks Nash's 2.5HKO to a 5HKO.  Killia hits Revenge, activates Tyrant Revelio, and I doubt Nash's evade can dodge three shots of way overkill damage in a single turn (20K before factoring in War Demon to a 14277.5 Kill Point).
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Alena (Dragon Quest 4) - Alena dealing damage with a 0.64x multiplier per hit (even on her crits), means that with Killia starting Fists for his 50% Evasion, she has a 4TKO assuming one crit, and Killia 3HKOs back.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Meliadoul (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Meliadoul having ITE Weapon Destruction and huge physical damage resistance herself means she blows him up without much issue.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Crono (Chrono Trigger) - Okay, assuming that Crono 3-2s Killia and Killia 4HKOs if he starts Fists...  The 50% Evasion probably means that Killia can win this?  4 Luminairs means 2 Luminairs, Confuse, miss the Spincut for 6 turns...  Yeah, this can work, but it's pretty coinflip-y.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Cherche (Fire Emblem Awakening) - I'll go with RC's assumption up above.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Adachi (Persona 4) - Uh, Phys Resist and Mudoon is enough.

Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Danette (Soul Nomad)
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Miranda (Legend of Dragoon) - Killia 2HKOs handily with Sword, isn't 2HKOed back.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Bart (Xenogears) - Killia can't kill fast enough before Bart becomes basically physically immune.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Kimahri (Final Fantasy X) - I don't think Killia has anything to stop E&C
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Gryz (Phantasy Star 4) - I can accept Crash working before Killia can kill, since most pure status/debuff spells in-game bypass SPD and just check target RES.
Killia (Disgaea 5) vs. Lemina (Lunar 2) - Equips Sword and yeah, 2HKOs first.

6-5 with one abstain, so...  Seems like he fits in this range.  Of course, this is also assuming I've done my math right.

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GODLIKE

Sephiroth (FF7) vs. Shania (SH3) - See Nama below, since we mostly share views how bosses work.


MIDDLE

CHAMELEON MAN (WA3) vs. Kazan (Legaia 2) - I'm going to laugh if this match has to coinflip 0 votes due to everyone abstaining.


LIGHT

Natan (SH3) vs. Guile (CC) - Tankier and more damage.

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GODLIKE

Winners:
Belial (WA4) vs. Shania (SH3) - Math checked, Belial 2HKOs before Shania gets a turn even without 4D pocket.


MIDDLE

Winners:
Bartholomew Fatima (XG) vs. Kazan (Legaia 2) - So I can't actually vote on this match, but it caught my eye, and I decided to do some napkin math in favor of Kazan in chat.
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Let's see...  If Kazan does go for the Cyclone Doublet, he outspeeds Bart (since my 1 SD = 20% means that Kazan would have 101.6% speed), he could...  Maybe not get 2HKOed and get some free damage off first.
(Even as low as 10% per SD would let him outspeed.)

Okay, assuming Cyclone Doublet lets him outspeed...  And that he starts a match with 0 AP...  He has 13 Art Blocks, so DDDUUURRULRUD gives Double Fists, Double Kick, Critical Thrust, and Skyshaker ending at +6 AP.  Eyeballing damages of some other things, that would land at...  ~15K damage, with the topic saying he'd have about a 30% chance each of ID and Stun.

The difference between 14K or 15K doesn't matter too much.  What matters is that Bart has to use Blue Cologne first or just lose from that, Kazan uses Earth Power #1 for another 11700, Bart smacks him with the Black Snake and after that Kazan 3HKOs with Earth Power regardless, and this is before factoring in that Bart takes a lot more damage from magic.  Someone want to check my math on that?


LIGHT

Losers:
Sten (BoF2) vs. Natan (SH3) - Someone else can do this math, this makes my head hurt, on top of me trying to decide if I still allow Natan having Paralysis 3 on his weapon (personal quest boss reward).

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GODLIKE

Lamington (Disgaea) vs. Riou (S2)


HEAVY

Ness (Earthbound) vs. Millenia (G2) - If Harken hadn't robbed Ness of his deserved win in round 1, he wouldn't be getting eliminated here.


MIDDLE

Squall Leonhart (FF8) vs Lich (FF1)


LIGHT

Paula (EB) vs. Sten (BoF2)
Natan (SH3) vs. Kain Highwind (FF4)
Zell Dincht (FF8) vs. Palmer (FF7)

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