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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 04, 2010, 12:17:19 AM »
alkjgas. Didn't triplecheck the post.

Shana: Don't agree with the case she made there against me, but she at least is interacting with various players. There's too much tunnel vision going on in this game.

And yeah.

##unvote: Boxxy/Bel Air

##vote: Combo breaker

I have no idea what soviet russia's doing, but combo breaker read the worst to me when doing that.  I have absolutely no reason to vote lolcat at this point other than a feeling. Most of the other active players have a fairly townie vibe.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:45:43 PM »
I'm trying to work through the players and the day, and I break up the post since it's taking forever and want to get something on record before I leave.

HUEG LIKE XBOX- Joined late with a recap post. Hard to draw much from this.
In Soviet Russia- ! I think he's been pounded on enough for his points, there is enough evidence to at least support  a lynch. Doesn't look good, but I also don't want to jump on this until I'm sure.
lolcats- No idea. A lot of her talk's building cases against myself and and soviet and talk about Mafia in the meta sense.
Milhouse Is Not A Meme- Town read. He layed low until the joke phase was over, then jumped in. Prodded me, Zerg rush, others. He's interacting with several players and is trying to prod the debate along when he's around. Tone isn't perfectly cheerful, but I have no real complaints here.
OH GOD SHANA IS HOT-  I don't agree with why she
Rickroll(Rick Astley)- No read. Rick's had one post and vanished for the past day.


I'm just repeating myself a lot, but again there isn't at on of content to go on with some players. Combo reads scum, lolcat is giving me a scum vibe and I can't articulate why, and I already commented on the players who feel the strongest townie.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:30:47 PM »
Didn't know what it stood for.

Not sure what to do at this point, since every post I'm making is just getting votes sent at my direction.  It is frustrating since I would have been better off lurking for most of the day, which isn't townie play.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 10:54:33 PM »
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9000.1 suddenly claiming V/LA does not help.

Don't know what this shorthand means, clarify?

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 10:43:48 PM »
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Right. On the other hand, I agree with you on 9000 now. "There is never anything wrong with voting for someone who is not posting" is a goddamn lie out of him. On day one it's a stupid cheap trick that allows you to assume a default position on the grounds of some myth that everyone who doesn't post is scum. LaL is not effective on day one on it's lonesome. It can be effective if one observes that what someone has posted is suboptimal, but alone? Too many potential mitigating factors. Never mind that the scenario for these kind of votes generally goes like that


-Player A: "Player B isn't posting! VOTE"
-Player B: "posts anything"
-Player A: "Right, Player B has posted, so I can drop this now."

The reason it can be dropped so easily is because there was no basis in the first place.

No. Someone who hasn't engaged the game isn't doing anything for town. Lurking sometimes happens, but the person I voted for at the time had yet to make a serious post in the game. Sorry, but LaL almost always applies fi someone isn't posting period. It isn't just posting anything, but posting something of content.

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and desire for madcappery at the end of the day when there is a sudden rush of vote changing to make sure an individual is lynched (as demonstrated by resisting the idea of pushing any player "too high too soon").

Desire to see votes pile up super early int he jokephase of the date doesn't mean pushing for a late train either. I didn't think it was a great move, changed my vote and explained it as well as I could.

At this point, I don't think defending myself from the same things over and over again is going to do much good, so going to reread the topic and see what impressions I get. Breaking up the post a bit since this is taking a while.

Advice Dog- Solidly town. He's fairly active in the game and is pushing townie things (Was first on Soviet russia for the nolynch, going after me , poking at Combo who gives me a bad vibe).

All Your Base- Voted Yo dawg for his brief post then vanishing routine,  built a case against me and let it stand. Smacked Shiki for diagreeing with voting against lurkers on day one.  I don't like the second part of his case against me, but he defended the vote against me well. 
Boxxy- Null read so far.
COMBO BREAKER- Past the joke phase- Prodded me once, parroted other people and voted dawg. Which is funny, as he's accusing Dawg of being a repeater.  He also votes and attacks soviet without doing much else. He's also being rude, which may be coloring my opinion of things. Not getting a positive view  from this.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 09:44:36 PM »
Just got hit with something. Reading and trying to make a post without promptly putting it in my mouth again.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 02:36:54 AM »
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God, whuzzis? I can't tell whatcha sayin' here! You tellin' the bookworm that someone gatherin' a bunch 'a votes means they could get rushlynched? Hahaha! You must be drunker'n I am if you are! Hahaha!

Just that someone getting that high a lynch in the jokephase isn't good.This really feels like a mountain out of a molehill at this point, and I know about something minor being turned into an internet legend.

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Ohoho, the gatherin'-hater is back fa' more, eh? Just a lurka' prod outta you? That's weak! You of all people should know about needing POWER!

Lurker prod's the best bet at this point; sitting for a day doing nothing is good. There is plenty of power is going after those who don't post!


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...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I don't like that last paragraph at all. Yes it's D1 but that statement is still a bit unsettling in how it feels as if you're claiming that who we lynch today does not matter at all because we don't really have flips and/or evidence on anyone, which yeah. D1 often results in a mislynch in mafia, but there's no reason why we should just resign ourselves to one always occuring and not at least try to do proper post analysis and form proper, coherent cases.

...................................................................................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you go on to vote for a lurker. Who has lurked for over a day and thus is someone the mod will likely be yelling at right now. Combined with zero useful analysis of anyone. You know, I think I'm starting to see Shiki's point here.


Where are you getting that from? Who we lynch matters a hell of a lot. I don't think piling up votes early in the day is ever good. I'm not sure what else to say, as I'm repeating myself on this point.

There's never anything wrong with voting for someone who's not posting. *Shrug* LaL's almost always the way to go if you can't think of much else.

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Edit: before anyone gets on my case about how "first you claim dumb playing is not inheritly scummy and then you vote for O9K", his nonsensical unvote-ZergRush-at-L-5 move is just purely dumb which imho means nothing alignmentwise with a slight lean towards town, but his followup post answers nothing, provides nothing useful at all and then votes in a direction completely nonconducive for determining alignment, i.e. it falls into the territory of active lurking, which is scummy behaviour.

You mean Combo breaker's one post after joke vote time prodding me, or Boxxy's zero posts after it? There's only so many ways to say someone is lurking.  Milhouse reads town but has slightly rude tint to his posts, not that it especially matters. Zerg  rush did vanish again, but that could easily just be time zone differential. I can't see anything wrong with prodding someone who's been idle for an entire day, mod poke or no.



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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 03, 2010, 01:54:53 AM »
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So what, if anything, are you taking out of that? If it was enough to get you to pull back and go "WHOA!" to everyone, who or what do you think in the train was scummy?

I agree with Milhouse that pulling off isn't scummy, but making a big deal about it and not saying why it's scummy at least bears asking about, especially when chaining into a token lurker poke, so C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

Getting a fair sized train started on day one when we were still in joke vote phase strikes me as unwise, especially when we haven't had people post more than a single post in day one.  Tho yeah, hard to pin much down on it other than dislike for people racking up heavy votes on day one.


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No lynch is Communist way, is way of letting all seeing KGB do state-supporting duty.  In dirty Capitalist pig-dog game, No Lynch is anti-town, Да, but when the wealth of roles is distributed equally among the people, it is our duty to stand together.  Think, товарищи, think on what happens with day 1 lynches!  Citizens descend on one person, person claims their proper role in Soviet state, citizens switch to new target at last minute, such is life in Amerikkka.  Is messy, is not likely to find Capitalist spies, gives CIA intelligence on Soviet roles.  No lynch and strong brotherhood, we will stand together, then act with information after night of vodka, Да?

It's a game where, and I quote the mod,
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1. This is role madness mafia, keep that in mind before you make any metagame assumptions.
2. When questioned about the odds of bastard modding, Mr. Magic 8-Ball said that "All signs point to probably."

Every time we no lynch we don't clear a single townie. NOt only that, it's a good way for scum to lurk day one and to avoid providing any sort of content. The odds range from good to 'Nappa just got owned hardcore' that Scum has a very good way to interfere with night rolls. No lynch makes some very strong assumptions about the metagame that the mod himself told the players not to make, so I can't see this making any sense.   


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Seriously I don't like his post there. Almost everything that's happened so far is pretty dismissable in the long run, but I cannot condone piling on a lurker here, bad as dawg is; he's rehashing 'look how bad over 9000 is' without really adding anything new (and like Cake before him is directing him towards early stupid), and pretty much everything after that is filler.

I don't see anything bad in his post, he's rightly pointing out mistakes (Mine included) and poking Dawg for fishy behavior. It's day one, there isn't going to be any long term impact until we get a lynch and a nightkill to build some information.

Going to branch off in a slightly different direction.

##Vote: Boxxy. Content please. It's been over a day since you've posted and that was a single post in the jokevote phase.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 02, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »
*I'd like to give a little more time before calling out lurkers/people still in the joke vote phase for hiding under the scouter, to get the game a'moving. Blah.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 02, 2010, 08:06:11 PM »
There were four votes on Zerg Rush during the jokevote phase.  That kind of train forming that quickly made me uncomfortable; thus the switch.  That human loving soviet may have made a bad, bad choice with a joke no lynch vote, but it was still his first vote in the game. So meh, I donno. Tho, the game being out of the joke phase is good, as no scouter made can translate flavor text into meaningful contributions.

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Is this not exactly what you yourself are doing? There is no logical reason to be afraid of voting for anyone when the vote does not push them to at least the L-1 threshhold, as a coordinated lynch rush would be spotted immediately and rightfully burned. Your vote would have only placed Zerg Rush at L-3, which is no major worry, and even leaves open another vote window before we start wandering into worrisome territory. Hypocrisy is bad. ##Unvote, ##Vote: The Cake Is A Lie

Someone picked up nearly half the lynch votes they needed in joke time; it's enough for that to build into something out of thin air. I can't say I'm thrilled with Zerg Rush's heavy use of slang,  as it makes makes for difficult reading. That still doesn't mean I want to put that kind of pressure in play before everyone's had a chance to weigh in and post in the non joke phase.

I'd like to give a little more time before calling out lurkers for hiding under the scouter, but the game's a moving! It does town no good if we sit and argue about who's power level is mightier while those of less mighty town levels sit and watch.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:22:59 PM »
Strangle: IE. Truly it's bullshit has always been over 9000!


Unvoted Zerg Rush; it looks like the joke vote phase is over and our demonic bug thingies already have several votes on them.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:19:40 PM »
##:Unvote: Zerg Rush

I see nothing wrong with Russia's opening post entirely being flavor; feh. It's no higher than power level 500! Hard to scout much this early.

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Forum Games / Re: Say It Like You Meme It(Meme Mafia: Day 1)
« on: March 01, 2010, 06:48:02 PM »
Goddamn Zerg Rushes. My scouter can't handle this!

##vote:Zerg Rush

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Forum Games / Re: Internet Meme Anonymafia Signups!
« on: March 01, 2010, 05:06:22 AM »
Ya'll don't know how high REAL power goes.

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Five]
« on: February 26, 2010, 03:54:04 AM »
Cross my heart, not to lie
Stick a needle in my eye
Hope that all the townies die

##Vote Comedian


How scum feels.


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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Five]
« on: February 26, 2010, 01:07:42 AM »
Mwah ha ha ha haaa...MWAH HA HA HA HA AH HAAAAA


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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Five]
« on: February 25, 2010, 10:43:30 PM »






Eeee hee hee hee hee.

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Five]
« on: February 25, 2010, 09:34:22 PM »
This seems really strange, while I can understand that you are certain it is me attempting to do the killings, I can assure you that I am the Town Doctor.

I'm not sure why you decided to come out so abruptly, I would've thought it to be better just to push on me, if what you say is true and you also truly believe me the one to be the culprit.  But here we have you first fishing, and now you reveal your role an a way that could potentially kill off two of towns power roles.

I don't think this is a scum gambit, seeing how a claim this early has all sorts of chances o backfire in their faces, but ugh, really.

##Unvote: Hazel

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Five]
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:43:01 PM »
Not really a good excuse for yesterday, but I had some things come up suddenly that I needed to take care of, but I'm here now so time to get my thoughts out.

I will be honest, I'm still really really clueless on how I feel about Gordon/Almaz, it's seems to be alot of WoT's with extreme tunnel visioning, but my tolerance for thoroughly reading through WoT's doesn't seem to be too high this week.  What I did notice is that Hazel seemed to suddenly do what Almaz was doing to Gordon, after it had been established such tunnel visioning is bad.

I'm also REALLY REALLY apprehensive about Hazel's latest post.
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I am also quite curious that no one seemed to come forward yesterday and claim they had been rudely woken from their sleep during the night. Were this a one-time thing I would not be so inclined to place this much priority on it, but we have now gone a second night with no discernable activity, and it seems too important to ignore further. Is there anyone that can claim they were attacked last night or on Night 3?

This strikes me as really off, It seems pretty obvious to me that we have someone with a role that is preventing scum from getting their kills, and this post strikes me as an attempt to get information that may reveal this role and/or who has it.  This person seems to be doing just fine, trying to bring information on whats preventing the night kills strikes me as something that would only be useful for scum.  I'm seriously considering that Hazel is a panicking scum trying to fish out information to get rid of whoever is preventing scum night kills.  I didn't really like the reasoning behind putting two people who are unconfirmed ahead of masons on a "who I think is more townie" list when we have no other confirmed roles for town, and this post just sets off alarms for me.

##Vote: Hazel

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Four]
« on: February 24, 2010, 12:32:33 AM »
Alright, skimmed through most of the thread, mostly focused more on the last five or so pages with a light skimming on the rest for sanity's sake.  I can see my predecessor left me in a bit of a bind.  Considering the timing of the day, it's pretty much impossible for me to come up with any unique cases myself, so I guess I'll just give my feelings for now.

From what I've managed to take in, the only three people that would strike me as being scum that aren't my predecessor would be Kirk, Almaz, and Gordon, everyone else generally leaves me with townie vibes.  I know my previous selfs behavior is pretty bad, but I can't really comment on it since I do not know what he was thinking.  Of the three I mentioned I honestly have no clue what I truly think between Almaz and Gordon, and figuring that out would require an extensive read of the two which just makes me go ugh.  Kirk however is much more quantifiable for me mostly due to the case on his vote records.  Right now I'll just point out that my suspicions lie mostly on Kirk, however, I'm not going to place my vote on him since the day is only barely half over and I think that would put him at L-1?

Regarding the masons, while I find The Ticks content to be a bit objectionable, he has been on scum rather consistently it seems, though I wish his posts would contain more reasoning, Flay however reads fine to me, and I personally believe their claim is true.  It was mentioned earlier, but if it truly is a scum gambit then it will become really obvious if roles start flipping, but right now, the only thing we know for certain of roles is that the scum had a silencer and rolecop, the only thing we know of town roles is the mason claim and the possibility of a doc since there was no nightkill this past night.  I don't think I would even begin to second guess the masons unless we see a town role other then the potential doc flip.

Everyone else has generally been a townie/neutralish read to me in my skim over.

Going to go to bed for now, will be around for the rest of the day once I wake up though, and I'll hopefully be able to do a more thorough readover.

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Four]
« on: February 23, 2010, 10:20:39 PM »
Replacement here, going over the game now, should have a post up in two to three hours hopefully.

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Three]
« on: February 21, 2010, 10:20:39 PM »
Well.... 4-5 pages since I last logged in....

Batmanuel: Perhaps we should meet up one of these days. I'm sure you'll like the stuff I've been on.
To everyone else: Lurking or not, haven't been around much, no use excusing, so...

So... Had a quick read. Seems the main issue here is this: Seems the main issues here are connected to the Middleman. If we get rid of him today, whatever the outcome, it'll help us in the following days, since the trio as a whole seems to be suspicious. So I say: Let's get rid of the common denominator to see where we stand.

##Unvote: Tick
##Vote: Middleman

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Three]
« on: February 20, 2010, 12:36:45 AM »
I'll be honest here. I don't have much experience with Mafia. I know there a good players here, and don't want to offend anyone. But what are the actual odds that scum get lynched during the first 2 days? Granted, my theory is a bit far fetched. But it's still a possibility.

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Three]
« on: February 20, 2010, 12:17:32 AM »
I know I'm popular, but geez... Sorry if I have things to do outside of this.


Bah.. the more I read, the more I get confused. So allow me to make this short.

Day 2, masons appear. They can only confirm this between each other, and they actually were right on Planet. Sure, Flay's around, doing all the work. Makes some sense too. But where's the flea? Living Flay to do all your work? You're both on the Bat-train, but as far as I can see, out of the two of you, the flea voted first, leaving Flay to clean up after him. My theory: You're both scum, trying voted off Planet to furhter your claims as masons, giving you a free ride til the end. Sure, Flay's reasoning isn't too bad, but thanks to that I forget about the flea. Something's not right here.

##Vote: Tick

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Forum Games / Re: VALIANT HERO Mafia! [Day Two]
« on: February 18, 2010, 02:08:39 AM »
To those who are wondering where I am: Let's say that my employer gives me a steady amount of.... heroic contracts. A hero's work is never done as they say.


Wow... You sure like to talk a lot. A real pain, trying to read everything... :s

Err.... Right.

How to build on something that's already been said (right, ninja smax?)

Flay, I take it you agree with what Kirk's been saying? Of course you are. Out of all the people who haven't been on much, on that list of yours, Kirk's not there for some reason. So why don't you elaborate on your views on the Bat and Gordon?

As for myself, still waiting on the Bat's explanations. As far as the Middleman thing goes, doubt he was scum. Why would 2 of them be on the chopping block at the very begginning of our endeavour? As far as Gordon's last minute hammer vote goes. I guess someone had to. Sure, could be viewed, but whichever way the hammer went: If Middleman got knocked dead, the hammerer would get heat for voting off Town (Yes, based on what's happened today, I think is Town, looking at it from this perspective.) And whoever voted off Scum would get heat from potential Town cred acquiring attempt.

So Flay, I realize you have exams and such. But you've still been around... nothing hurts to elaborate more, right?

And as far as the vote on the Bat, it stands until he explains himself.
Tick is L-3, so let's give him a chance to defend himself at least.

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