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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:40:52 PM »
I'm not sure how the bulletproof claim 'smacks of scum flailing.' I dropped a hint shortly after Peyton revealed his role, asking not to be targeted by him. It was because I didn't need it, and was hoping that that would invite scum NKs. As for what I actually gain of claiming it?

...

Nothing. I gain people having even less reason to believe me. I am fully aware of how super-powered the role is. I am fully aware of how the Miller claim alone almost got me lynched. No, if I were truly flailing, I would've claimed some sort of secret ultra-super-awesome power. Like, say, saving people from slow-kills. Wouldn't that have been a much better claim? Yes, yes it would have been. Or maybe I claimed that, if one specific thing happened, I lost all my powers. But no. Now if you have some reason to honestly believe it is scumflailing, aside from lullynchtarget, then please tell me. Because this isn't the first time that people have reacted this way, and it is quite stupid to start inherently disbelieving everything someone says when they're close to a lynch, because EVERYTHING can be dismissed as flailing, and it is downright idiotic. If there is a contradiction, fine. By all means, call me out on it, and lynch me. Others, shut up, and stop treating people like they're worthless when backed against the wall. Even Town is going to freak when their new tye consists of rope and death. Now everybody who doesn't have a real, honest-to-god reason to believe I'm lying, sit down and shut up. Everybody who doesn't have a real reason to believe Pietro is lying, do the same. Everybody who didn't have one yesterday for Tyrone should've done the same. And from now on, everyone should do the same. Being near lynch and freaking out is NOT A SCUMTELL.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:28:18 PM »
Uhh... I want to hammer myself for shits and giggles? I said that if we are 100% lynching me, I want to have the hammer. If we're not, then awesome. I'm sorry I'm requesting to go out with style?

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:20:16 PM »
Hey, if we're gonna lynch me for sure, anybody mind if I get the last vote?

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:17:16 PM »
...huh. Well, crap.

Alright. Well. I'm thinking Moses' investigation only tells us that there are 4 scum, and one or two TP. Either that, or no TP, and one or two Millers. One of the two.

Either way, I'm thinking Pietro, at LEAST one of Seamus/The Russian, Kyle, and Chad are pretty safe places to look. Yes, I'm aware they're all against me, whatever. I don't care about that, I care about finding the right people. Btw, Seamus has something about his posts similar to Pietro. Can't place it yet, but somebody mind looking into that tonight/tomorrow?

Ninja'd by Mod: Still tells me nothing. Oh well.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:10:27 PM »
And again, if someone with more mafia knowledge than me could please tell me what Third Party shows up as to Sane cops?

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:08:43 PM »
I'm bulletproof because, uhh, superstrength and don't sleep. Good luck killing me by normal means. If you missed out on some neat items, try sleeping at Miskatonic U; maybe something will crawl up your nose too.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 11:05:57 PM »
I really only dropped one hint, mostly meant as a way to attract scum NKs tonight if they happened to notice it. I was not, in any way, hoping to need to fullclaim.

Ninja'd by Nikolai, nothing to say about the matter now, other than that I would really like a minute to figure all this Miller business out.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:47:54 PM »
Sorry, meant to say "Go to Hell(snake)".

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:45:54 PM »
Rrrg... Go to Hell. *Sigh* Anyway. There's one more thing I'd like to know; when a sane cop investigates Third Party, what result do they get?

Chad, I'd appreciate it if you could please not use words like 'scummy' in the case of 'nontowny' then, as there are certain connotations attached.

Kyle needs to speak up. Now. He hasn't talked since before role shenanigans. Ethan and Seamus also need to speak up. I realize that with so little time left, it is incredibly unlikely to get any of them around, but they've been gone far too long.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:30:12 PM »
Also, way to contradict yourself again. You say you think I'm scummy, than go on to claim how I'm acting exactly like a third party and that you think I'm a third party. You also keep giving me misrep.

Once this mess with me and Pietro's over, and if the Miller thing hasn't cleared up, I'd like people to poke their noses in Chad's direction.

Anyway, I think I'm gonna give Kyle another look-over.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:25:04 PM »
Fu--yeah, guess I did say Day 3. Meant Night 3.

As for Miller business... I could do a whole thing right here, right now, but I need to know if Moses' investigation last night acted like a cop's. Without that, we really are at a complete loss about the whole Miller business until at least two of us wind up dead. (Yes, two. One will set off a whole bunch of new questions that won't be answered without another's death)

Still waiting on whatever Moses was telling us to brace for, though.

Ninja'd by Chad: What good would any of that do at this point? It's all going to be seen as flailing, so why bother doing anything but giving you guys information, and trying to think of stuff for tomorrow? Oh, and yeah, I AM Town Bulletproof/Miller/Reviver. Not a Third Party. Sorry if my teamplay goes along different lines than yours. I'm also sorry I've been trying to crack the puzzles that have been showing up, which we need more information for. So very, very sorry.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:12:04 PM »
Oh, yeah. And this is why I didn't bat an eyelash when Jack counter-claimed with Miller. I already knew there were two bulletproofs (Though three makes me very wary) when Callahan died yesterday.

Btw, if you wouldn't mind explaining why you don't believe my claims whatsoever? (Not asking for roles here, FYI) Also, would be nice if you could take your vote down for a sec so we can talk this out like rational folks.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:05:30 PM »
Woahwoahwoahwoahwoah. You've got it WAY wrong there, buddy. I can't do anything if I die. If I die, I'm gone for good. Anyway, guess I may as well fullclaim, since I'm looking to be quick-lynched.

Miller/Reviver/Bulletproof. Make of that what you will, and go Town.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:01:25 PM »
Oh, yeah. And I haven't fullclaimed yet. And... well, I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not to fullclaim. But I have good reason not to have said anything, save some breadcrumbing on my third power.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 08:56:57 PM »
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Uh, Chad, what are you on? First off, your points contradict each other. (Hellsnake can't prove anything, but Pietro can prove something just like Hellsnake!) Next, I see you're still not quite getting the logic behind lynching Pietro over me today. Yes, suffer no scum to live. However, I am absolutely no threat to you to leave alive an extra day when you've got another choice. You have to suffer a scum to live pretty much no matter what (assuming we're both scum). I'm also curious as to where you thought I said "Day 3" in any of that, aside from "When I'll know how effective my revival is." Other people have been making assumptions on my role without grabbing the full information; not my fault.

Finally, what can Pietro prove? Assume he's Town; his investigations are unreliable, and thus unhelpful. It would take more than two nights from now to check on his sanity/if he's paranoid. So proving his claim takes longer. However, it's incredibly difficult to DISprove his claim, short of killing him, as he has claimed he could be sane, insane, or paranoid. Now assume he's scum. He KNOWS who is scum, and who is town/TP. He can, say, point to Moses or Jack tomorrow, and say "these guys are town!"

Ninja'd by Peyton, pretty much summing up what I've said. Although I am now extremely suspicious of Chad for the power-backing of Pietro.

I will also ask who honestly thought I was trying to "buy Town insurance" with my claim? I am fully aware that it proves absolutely nothing about my alignment.

...God damn, what kind of lunatic would pull Miller/Reviver as a scum gambit? It makes no sense. Ugh.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 06:01:08 PM »
Alright, my story goes as follows.

It was an easy case; wannabe mafioso jumped bail. His daddy was a professor at Miskatonic U, so I figured he'd go there to visit his family. Nothing at the house, so I checked the daddy's office. There was something about an expedition in British Iraq, but I didn't think much of it at the time, except that maybe I could catch a quick nap over by the crates from the exploration. The boy wasn't likely to show today anyway, so what's the harm? Anyway, as I was lying down, I heard the scuttling of insects; again, thought nothing of it at the time. As I was sleeping, I woke up to the feeling of something crawling up my nose, and before I could do anything about it... I was hearing something, and bowing so hard my face was in the dirt. It told me it had it's dog leash upon me, and sent me to sleep by saying, "Should there not be peace? Rest, gather strength." And I was out for a good 12 hours.

That was 8 months ago. Since then, my priorities have been a little... different. I immediately researched the expedition, and found out my new Master was a Psychic overlord of an ancient Sumerian civilization. I, personally, am not too sure what it wants, but... Unity and peace seems like a safe bet.

Some oddities have arisen, however. I can understand it, for the most part, but it doesn't seem to know the names of locations in this day and age, so following its instructions can get a little... difficult. Master also isn't aware of things like guns, railroads, telegraphs, etc. However, like I mentioned earlier, Master gives me... power. Lots of it. It's not a specific kind of power, it's a pretty general thing, but it is quite notable in that it helps me catch my Bounties. I mean, I don't seem to need sleep anymore, I have incredible physical strength, and... well, you guys all saw another one the night of the murder. When I yell, people cower before me and work to fulfill my wishes. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. (Though I have found out that if I get drunk--really, REALLY drunk--I can escape Master's influence)

Anyway, Master's new mission is to find the Altar of Aorako; it's the only reason I'm here to begin with. The altar looks like stone circles, north of here. Once I find them, my new instructions should be made clear.

Master can do many things, and in a search for peace, bringing back the dead is a worthy goal, is it not? Although... with that kind of backstory, it is rather hard not to look suspicious, don't you agree? ((Roach = Super powers, like reviving dead. Super powers = Suspicious = Miller. Actually, there's a LOT about me that's suspicious, so take your pick, really))

Ninja'd by mod and Andrews. Not much to say, other than welcome back, and I hope this next week goes much better for you.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 05:32:19 AM »
Oh, right. I completely forgot about one of the conditions on my revival--aside from the one determining if the stars are right--is that some people I am simply unable to revive. Lynch victims are generally A-OK, but yeah. (And no, this doesn't mean anything about alignment whatsoever, so please nobody take this as being a scumtell or towntell. It really is just plain neutral, since I have no clue who I won't be able to revive yet, and may never know)

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 25, 2010, 05:28:36 AM »
...bloody... GRAAAH. Ok. Quite large post just got nom'd. Will try to summarize as best I can. For now, GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!

*sigh* Peyton, it was Seamus, not Hargreaves, who said I was 'begging for an excuse to claim Miller.'

Chad, if you wouldn't mind explaining just how leaving me alive, when there are other alternatives, is a negative for Town, then please speak up now. Because, far as I can see, no matter what my alignment is, I'm pretty much locked into being pro-town if I want to live. (Also, what do you mean by 'last night'?)

Can offer stuff on my backstory if people want, but basically, tonight I'll find out if The Stars Are Right, or if The Stars Are Silent. Right = Full revive, save powers. Silent = One-day talk. Either way, something will happen. I do this on Night 3, so Day 4 is when people show up.

"Nothing more to talk about" seems kinda harsh, given there are at LEAST 4 people who've yet to give their say on things as they stand now; Seamus among them. And, if nothing else, we can try to figure out this whole 3-Miller business.

I know somebody knows SOMETHING I'm looking for. So. Any information on Aorako, nearby altars, or the Order of Unseen Wisdom. Order is less important, since my Revival comes on the Night of the Full Moon (so, theoretically, we could have a Night 31, wherein I get another shot of revival) and so it coinciding with one of their important dates is coincidence, I'm sure. Or maybe not, since Cthulu, but.

Ragh. Sufficient? ... Yeah. Peyton covers everything I had to say to Pietro. Although I will say this: The wording heavily implies that I will return Town to insane cops.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 07:24:04 PM »
No time, gonna be gone past deadline, go town, I've had my say, info on Aorako and/or town altars would be nice, etc. Ciao.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 07:18:21 PM »
Y'know, looking at my own train, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean, there's Kyle, Seamus, and Pietro all on it. But on the other hand, there's Chad and Jack and Moses. And then, even if Peyton comes in and ties it up, we're relying on the two absentees...

I gotta say: this whole day has been WTF as all-get-out.

Anyway, if I do survive, Peyton, please don't protect me tonight. Not trying to guide it, but please keep it away from me.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 07:00:06 PM »
Votecount would be appreciated, too.

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 06:53:06 PM »
Yes, and as far as everyone else is concerned, we're both scum. Pretty much guaranteed, to them. So, uhh, what's promised 'on the chopping block' kinda makes a difference. Now back off and stop misrepresenting me, or I'll gefa þér gott hvolpur og sumir ímynda sér ný föt!

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 06:37:19 PM »
*sigh* Alright, look. I'm gonna lay out my entire game plan (that's gone unexplained so far).

I voted Kyle for pressure to get the information out of him on whether or not he's the slow-killer. I believe the slow-killer to be third party, and I believe Kyle to be the slow-killer.

My posts last night weren't entirely flavour; I was investigating the little thing about Peyton and Moses, wherein Peyton protects Moses, yet doesn't seem to be the one who visited him last night and gave him all that depression. If Peyton had been the one to give Moses the depression, I would've (still) voted for Pietro today, and then Kyle tomorrow.

I've never been a miller before, and figured that claiming it outright would've just gotten me quick-lynched (lul, guess what?). I decided to change my mind (admittedly in the wrong order) when Moses gave us his story. I figured it would help us catch scum, and oh look.

Now for other stuff (since I believe that's all?)

I'm really not certain why people are so hellbent on lynching me today. It sounds like you guys've narrowed it down to Pietro and me, and you think BOTH of us are scum. What do you possibly gain from killing the CLAIMED REVIVER before the claimed cop. It's made even more baffling, considering the cop claim was quite sketchy, and this has been pointed out a couple times now. Honestly, this is outright stupid. I will vote MYSELF if I don't revive somebody day 3, since I'm guaranteed to be able to do something. Like, honestly, what do you get from lynching me today instead of waiting 'till later? Also made suspect is that the guy who's trying to super-push my lynch made a paranoia cry of "LYLO."

Now, tomorrow I'm going to be voting for Seamus, personally, (and you can hold me to this) since obviously one of the miller claims is bull. I know mine isn't, and between Jack and Seamus, Jack had nothing to gain from claiming it. He thought I was full of it because he doubted there were two millers, it wasn't game-breaking or anything, hurray. Seamus, however, spends his entire post attacking me, trying to paint me as bad as possible (even claiming that I was looking for an excuse to claim miller. How does that make any sense? No, really. How? I was the first to claim, and claiming it did nothing for me. In fact, it has only HURT me since. Why would I not just claim Reviver at beginning of day, and avoid claiming miller at all? Because there's a cop? Oh, hey, if Pietro is a cop, then I didn't know that until a long while afterwards, and if I was worried about cops in general, I would've just claimed it outright Day 1) No, Seamus is definitely scum, trying to save his buddy's ass.

Also, proof positive that Pietro is lying: In his claim, he says that flavour heavily indicates he might be insane, and he got a scum result on me. I claimed miller. He got a scum result on me. ... If he truly believed he might be insane, then not only would he have not pursued me so ruthlessly solely from the result, but he should've also backed off when I claimed miller, because that ties SANE cop results to finding me scum. However, he continues to pursue, and even says in his claim that he believes he might be insane. No, no, NO. This is wrong in all sorts of ways.

Oh yeah, Pietro. I have the world's tiniest violin here; want me to play you something?

In summary: Pietro's claim is incredibly shaky, and gives him wriggling room. Mine isn't. I am completely tied down, as I am guaranteed a revival of some sort night 3. It is outright stupid to lynch me today, unless you believe Pietro to be Town. If so, why?

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 07:26:55 AM »
And that's the whole story? I'm sorry to've brought up memories of the play; I was mostly asking 'bout last night. Viltu fá smá meira að drekka?

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Forum Games / Re: Cthulu Mafia - Day 2
« on: April 24, 2010, 05:38:51 AM »
Ég sé jafnvel óhroða hefur gleymt hvernig á að tala Sumerian. Hvílík skömm.

Hafa ekkert að hræðast, því að ég er ekki að breyta í neinu, einungis að uppfylla hlutverk mitt.
 
* Bill Hellsnake mutters a bit to himself, then gets lost in thought for a few moments

Sorry, where was I? Oh, yes. Well, it would appear that we have another little contradiction. Moses is convinced that his possible slow-kill came from--waaaaait a second. Nobody else say anything on the matter, I want Peyton's pure testimony here. Tell me more about you 'protecting others from the Mythos.' As much as you feel comfortable sharing.

((Side note: The random language is all flavour, and thrown in for fluff. Please don't take it seriously))

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