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Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« on: August 17, 2008, 04:30:49 AM »
Results
Yukari 55.1% (27-22 (14-13, 13-9))
Chuck 53.7% (22-19 (9-13, 13-6))
Melody 43.6% (17-22 (7-13, 10-9))
Mia 42.3% (22-30 (5-21, 15-8))
Tia 41.2% (21-30 (7-19, 14-11))
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Cinnamon 37.2% (16-27 (7-16, 9-11))
Vinsfield 36% (18-32 (5-20, 13-12))

Close overall race! Cinnamon and Vinsfield just couldn't fight their way in.

This Week
3. Junpei- Can he overcome the week of underranked Wind Rune users?
5. Mallow- Can his healing overcomes some of the solid damagers this week?
10. Cai- Can he rush his opponents well enough before his iffy healing is needed?
14. Melody- Hopes for lack of Poison immunity and bad damage.
15. Zhuzhen- Can he rush his opponents well enough before his iffy healing is needed?

The Matches
Junpei (P3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Junpei (P3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Aila (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Anri (SF 1)
      
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Anri (SF 1)
      
Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Aila (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Anri (SF 1)
      
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Anri (SF 1)
      
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Anri (SF 1)

...into the nightfall.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 04:39:11 AM »
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs  Legault (FE 7)- Legault vs healer.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Thinking Pahn's speed gets him killed here.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Evasion I think? Bah, L'Arachel.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Better.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3)- Freeze, can easily outlast a 'blitz' attempt.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Think Gordon runs out of SP.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Think SMRPG can block sleep.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Nara.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)  vs   Sue (Grandia)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Anri (SF 1)

Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Strong kneejerk.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1)- See above.
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Magic tank.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Healing.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Aila (S3)- Mmm. I don't think she can play defensively and heal her way out of trouble, and her blitzing skills are eh.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Tiebreak down to level.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Need to see how much HP Shabon has. WoS is worthless but the physical's good.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Nara HP to the rescue. If she uses a holy robe she gets heal locked by a Cai physical, if she uses armor she just gets OHKOed by Exablast.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Palmer.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Grandia trash.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Dahna (G3)= Grandia trash.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Anri sucks.


     
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- If Garcia can do it..
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Think he 2HKOs?
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Thunder works here offhand.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Superior in most every way.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3)- Doubt Zhuzhen 2HKOS here.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Think he can heal lock and not run out of SP?
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3) Sleep should tip it.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Physical.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Anri (SF 1)

Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Crits.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Overwhelms the barrier.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3)- Poison puts too much pressure on.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Good enough slugger.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Healing cures status.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Dahna (G3)- Can block poison, sort of has offense.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Anri (SF 1)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2008, 05:13:12 AM »
Junpei (P3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Legault. Not bad, but Junpei stuff is all evadable.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Junpei
Junpei (P3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Junpei. L’Arachel has issues getting through that regen to me, I think.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sharon. ID.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Aila (S3)- Aila. Has to stall a little, but think she can do this.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Junpei. Gordon misses the 2HKO thanks to HP/regen, I think.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Shabon. ID.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Junpei. Expend HP to smash her in a turn, I think.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Junpei. Solid enough here.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Junpei
Junpei (P3)   vs   Dahna (G3)- Junpei
Junpei (P3)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Anri, I think.
     
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Legault
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sharon. ID.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Gordon
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Shabon. ID.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Mallow
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Dahna (G3)- Dahna. Believe G3 Confuse was pretty evil.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Mallow
     
Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Legault. Cai’s PDur and such.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Cai.
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Cai.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sharon.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Aila (S3)- Aila. Silence protection+moderate healing.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Gordon. Less respect for Cai speed now, I think.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Shabon
Cai (Brig)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Cai
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Cai
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Cai
Cai (Brig)   vs   Dahna (G3)- Cai
Cai (Brig)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Cai
     
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Legault, I think.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Melody
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- L’Arachel. The MDef.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sharon. Healing+Poison Immunity.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3)- Aila. Closish.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Gordon
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Shabon. Healing+Poison Immunity.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Melody
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Melody
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Melody
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Dahna (G3)-  Melody
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Anri
     
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7)- Legault
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Pahn (S1)- Pahn. Heal locks.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)- Zhuzhen.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sharon.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3)- Zhuzhen. Think he can sneak in 4 Corpse Arms.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Gordon. Go Axes and such.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3)- Shabon.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4)- Zhuzhen. Heal locks and doubles before he runs out of SP to me.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Zhuzhen. Can handle 4HKO damage, I think.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sue (Grandia)- Zhuzhen
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Dahna (G3)- Dahna. Has enough healing to stall until SP runs out to me+Status immunity.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Anri (SF 1)- Zhuzhen

Junpei 7-5 (3-3, 4-2)
Mallow 7-5 (3-3, 4-2)
Cai 7-5 (2-4, 5-1)
Zhuzhen 6-6 (2-4, 4-2)
Melody 5-7 (1-5, 4-2)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2008, 05:13:58 AM »
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7) - God this is ugly
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1) - Not sure if Pahn quite manages a heal lock, though a crit may well be fatal.  Forgot how much of a slug Pahn was.  Mallow could 2HKO here, but I'm not all that sure of that.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8) - Unsure if L'Arachel manages to double here.  She probably takes it if she does.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7) - Um, Palmer mistakes Mallow for a ball of cotton candy and tries to eat him but gets run over?  I got nothing.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sue (Grandia) - I don't wanna think about this...
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Anri (SF 1) - Even with the magic resistance and Elude... the damage is still kinda lame.

Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7) - Yeah, think he kills first.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1) - Faster, with Exablast hitting *that* MDef?  Ewww... Pahn need a crit first turn.
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8) - L'Arachel MDef is fun.  So's the evasion.  Not doubling, on the other hand... meh, she can probably pull it off, for all that I don't see her countering anything except Cai's feeble attempts to smack her with the book.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7) - ...
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia) - ...
Cai (Brig)   vs   Anri (SF 1) - ...
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Junpei (P3)   vs   Legault (FE 7): With the counters and regen... might end up killing with Silencer -_-
Junpei (P3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): Changed. L'Arachel damage probably isn't good enough, thinking on it.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Aila (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)

Bad pool for him. Ew.

Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3): Painful resource advantage.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)

Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)

Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): No Thunder res, gets doubled.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)

Funeral Wind makes this pool cry. Oh, and Melody sucks against Wind Rune's healing.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2008, 03:15:45 AM by Ultradude »
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2008, 03:11:26 AM »
Update Sunday or Monday! More votes are needed.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 07:22:28 AM »
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7): Goes first, two-rounds.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1): Mallow can only safely attack on doubles. Granted, he's average speed after turn 1, and Pahn is like... horridly slow. 2/3 average or so? Ick. So yeah, Mallow heals twice, Shocker, heals twice, Shocker, Shocker. Not sure exactly where I see SMRPG FP, but he's got enough for that.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): L'Arachel... yeah, doubles. So Mallow isn't healing or OHKOing.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3): Hmm. Without Funeral Wind, this is a stalloff I could see either winning (Mallow blocks sleep, has more MP but is forced to heal way more). With Funeral Wind, slaughter.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3): Yeah, Freeze takes out Mallow pretty well.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Gordon (Dis): Gordon Blitz didn't even 2HKO average. Might 2HKO Mallow, but he can certainly heal Gordon out of SP, and Gordon can't heal-lock with anything else.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3): See Sharon.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nara (DW 4): It's Nara. Mallow heal-locks with physical, blocks sleep, etc.
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Anri (SF 1): Has the resources to heal-lock for... a long time. Alternatively, Muddle? If that lasts long enough.
     
Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7): Knify knife knife.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1): Faster, 2HKOs.
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): Hum. L'Arachel goes first. L'Arachel counters anything except weak MT spells. Cai... can't really heal out of trouble since he's not countering? And L'Arachel evade is stupid. Yeah, I'm confident, here.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sharon (S3): Can probably win a resource war if need be.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Aila (S3): See Aila vs. Mallow, Freeze is too much.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Gordon (Dis): Wins speed tiebreak, 2HKOs first I think. Doubt Cai counter/heal hype is enough, but... maybe.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Shabon (S3): Good fight as always.
Cai (Brig)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Anri (SF 1): Cai's better suited to this fight than Mallow was. Better speed/damage.
     
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7): Melody cuts Legault's damage in half. That's bad. It means Legault needs four attacks to kill. 2-3 rounds of poison depending on when poison hits, 4 shots of Eliminate Scanner, two hit. Each easily does 30% (Legault mdur), two rounds of poison take care of the rest.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Pahn (S1): Even if Pahn 3HKOs (and it looks like it may be 4?), Melody 4-3, kills without Poison. This is not close.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): L'Arachel does... bad damage, 5HKO or so? But she's so better suited to this than Legault anyway. Poison basically never hits, damage fails.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3): Poison immune healer.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3): See above! Healing's not as good, but it gets the job done here, I think.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Gordon (Dis): Is happy I give him that speed tiebreak, once again, because he just squeaks by assuming ES can't manage 30%.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3): I scale the barrier to average cast damage per hit, so Sharon and Aila could sneak by. Shabon, though? Ahahaha no. Melody does to Shabon what she does to Virgina gatling.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Nara (DW 4): Goes first, 2HKOs. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A REASON FOR A MELODY VICTORY.
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Anri (SF 1): 2HKOs, doesn't die to two ES + poison.
     
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7): Slice.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Pahn (S1): Slower, but isn't 3-2ed, and 2HKOs. Zhu can stall with healing, but a Pahn crit OHKOs.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8): L'Arachel 3HKOs. That kinda kills a heal-attack strategy, since he'll trigger a counter and get hit three times every time he tries to attack.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3): Sleep -> SP stall is brutal and mean and it works so very well.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3): EDIT: Battle Oath -> physical spam. Why didn't I think of that?
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Gordon (Dis): Uh... well, when Dhyer votes against Zhuzhen...
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3): Sleep.
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4): Well, he'll be able to 2HKO with -something- depending on Nara's armour. Double takes forever to come, though, Nara's not that slow. Granted, it's before he runs out of SP. And he can heal-lock with the physical regardless... so yeah. Unless... can Nara cast Barrier to survive physical + Flames of Fudo? Maybe. That lets her heal, and survive for a while, probably enough to win... uh... well... depends when Barrier wears off. Or what elements it gets. ARGH. Will await people who know about DQ4 than me to wake up. EDIT: Corpse Arm.
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Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Dahna (G3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Anri (SF 1): Faster, 3HKOs. Zhuzhen heals that easily enough though. Two shots at once even. Leaving him enough time for whatever status he chooses.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2008, 07:46:58 AM »
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3): Aila blocks Paralysis, as does Zhuzhen. Zhuzhen's best hope is to inflict Silence then kill with damage? Problems, though... Aila has six turns to stall with Vengeful Child, and aside from that will make him heal for every attack he gets. That's assuming his healing is close enough to full as makes no difference, which it may not be. So by the time he's inflicted Silence... uh... he's got like no SP at all. And then has to 3HKO, despite the fact that he's used... a lot of turns, meaning he has at most two Flames of Fudo left? Ick. (Aila heals on an inevitable double shortly before silence is inflicted.)

Actually, doesn't Aila miss Paralysis? S3 has it, but I don't think Yellow Scarf gets it.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2008, 03:50:32 PM »
... reeeaallly. Well, hmm, the only difference between the two is that Aila, if paralysed, can't continue to physical after the status finally lands. Which relieves a little pressure on Zhuzhen, but I still need to think about it.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2008, 07:50:42 PM »
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Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4): Well, he'll be able to 2HKO with -something- depending on Nara's armour. Double takes forever to come, though, Nara's not that slow. Granted, it's before he runs out of SP. And he can heal-lock with the physical regardless... so yeah. Unless... can Nara cast Barrier to survive physical + Flames of Fudo? Maybe. That lets her heal, and survive for a while, probably enough to win... uh... well... depends when Barrier wears off. Or what elements it gets. ARGH. Will await people who know about DQ4 than me to wake up.

Nara's below average defense with MBA. If she uses the Holy Robe Zhuzhen is outright OHKOing her with a physical.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2008, 08:08:18 PM »
I know that. I was asking about Barrier.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2008, 08:16:29 PM »
If Nara casts Barrier, considering Zhuzhen goes first, wouldn't he be able to simply finish with a physical to you? I believe you take the three-turn average, which makes opening FoF+physical total 53% PC HP. Nara's 47% PC HP. If you take the averages like I do... uhhh... he still deals 50% PC HP with FoF+physical, and that still should kill unless Barrier -also- reduces physical damage. So, uh.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2008, 08:28:02 PM »
Nara responds to FoF by healing. Zhuzhen runs out of MP before he doubles. So yeah, he has to open with some chipping, and she can throw up Barrier.

Mind, it doesn't MATTER, since Zhuzhen just spams Corpse Arm, and he puts enough pressure on that this hits before Nara can muster a Sleep->blitz strategy. (Well, "blitz".) Editing.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Light Quarters 1
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2008, 08:44:40 PM »
Junpei (P3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Pahn (S1)- ... hmmm.  Yeah, faster+regen+high counter add up to those turns he needs.
Junpei (P3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sharon (S3)- Sleep/heal whorage.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Aila (S3)- Can stun for safe healing/finishing turns.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)- Just kneejerking Gordon as going first.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Shabon (S3)- See Sharon.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)- Mmm... yeah, Spring of Life does drag Palmer down to 5HKOing.
Junpei (P3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Junpei (P3)   vs   Dahna (G3)
     
5/11

Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Aila (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Mallow (SMRPG)   vs   Dahna (G3)

6/11
     
Cai (Brig)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Cai (Brig)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Aila (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Cai (Brig)   vs   Dahna (G3)
     
4/11

Melody (WA 3)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Aila (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Melody (WA 3)   vs   Dahna (G3)

7/11
     
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Legault (FE 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Pahn (S1)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   L'Arachel (FE 8)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sharon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Aila (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Gordon (Dis)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Shabon (S3)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Nara (DW 4)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Palmer (FF 7)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Sue (Grandia)
Zhuzhen (SH)   vs   Dahna (G3)

6/11
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