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Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« on: May 31, 2009, 05:35:39 AM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK)
Lassic vs Belial
Lassic vs Luther
Lassic vs Kurando
Lassic vs Lulu
Lassic vs Sir Leopold
Lassic vs Bosch
Lassic vs Zeno
Lassic vs Jerin
Lassic vs Drachma
Lassic vs Sasarai
Lassic vs Juan

Keldorn Firecam  (BG2) vs Isolde (MK)
Keldorn vs Belial
Keldorn vs Luther
Keldorn vs Kurando
Keldorn vs Lulu
Keldorn vs Sir Leopold
Keldorn vs Bosch
Keldorn vs Zeno
Keldorn vs Jerin
Keldorn vs Drachma
Keldorn vs Sasarai
Keldorn vs Juan

Lang vs Isolde (MK)
Lang vs Belial
Lang vs Luther
Lang vs Kurando
Lang vs Lulu
Lang vs Sir Leopold
Lang vs Bosch
Lang vs Zeno
Lang vs Jerin
Lang vs Drachma
Lang vs Sasarai
Lang vs Juan
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 06:24:42 AM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK)- 2HKO. Doubt Isolde can stop it.
Lassic vs Belial- OHKO.
Lassic vs Kurando- Think he can hit elemental weaknesses to speed things along.
Lassic vs Lulu
Lassic vs Sir Leopold
Lassic vs Bosch
Lassic vs Zeno
Lassic vs Jerin
Lassic vs Drachma- Gets too many shots in.
Lassic vs Sasarai- Think he can win a defensive war.i
Lassic vs Juan


Keldorn Firecam  (BG2) vs Isolde (MK)- On one hand, I see him dispelling cards. On the other hand,
Keldorn vs Belial- 4-D pocket.
Keldorn vs Kurando- No crits and Heavenquake lag give Kurando some issues. Keldorn is 3HKOing here no matter what, I think?
Keldorn vs Lulu- ID/healing.
Keldorn vs Sir Leopold- Outslugs.
Keldorn vs Bosch
Keldorn vs Zeno- Donno for either BoF5 boss.
Keldorn vs Jerin-
Keldorn vs Drachma- Hand of Fate.
Keldorn vs Sasarai- 2HKO.
Keldorn vs Juan- Immune to critical hits and going first. Should be enough.

Lang vs Isolde (MK)
Lang vs Belial
Lang vs Kurando- Can smash past the danger range.
Lang vs Lulu
Lang vs Sir Leopold
Lang vs Zeno
Lang vs Jerin- Pretty classic Lang smash.
Lang vs Drachma- Can access his limit without taking damage.
Lang vs Sasarai
Lang vs Juan
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 09:07:20 AM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK)
Lassic vs Belial- OHKO!
Lassic vs Luther- Lassic isn't so great at chipping
Lassic vs Kurando- Constant doubles make it easy for him to kill and still not run out of SP, I think.
Lassic vs Lulu- Lassic isn't doubling in time, I think
Lassic vs Sir Leopold- Lassic is even strong to some of Leopold's damage.
Lassic vs Bosch- Think he 3HKOs faster.
Lassic vs Zeno
Lassic vs Jerin- Cheap healing and doubles. And fire!
Lassic vs Drachma- Drachma's flaw to me is that I only see TB initiative as making you slightly faster than your opponent if you aren't already faster. It would be a case like this, where Drachma magically avoids ever taking a full damage hit (despite always taking a full damage hit in game if he tried to do this and was the only target) that I just can't respect.
Lassic vs Sasarai- Does Lassic really lack a physical?
Lassic vs Juan- 2HKO and can take a hit too.

Keldorn Firecam  (BG2) vs Isolde (MK)
Keldorn vs Belial
Keldorn vs Luther
Keldorn vs Kurando- Keldorn is decently fast. Kurando's is blazingly fast, and a 3HKO against Kurando doesn't work greatly. Heal locking him with his speed is hard enough!
Keldorn vs Lulu
Keldorn vs Sir Leopold
Keldorn vs Bosch- Good defense+AD+Keldorn is getting 2 turned at worst
Keldorn vs Zeno
Keldorn vs Jerin- Keldorn versus lots of constant healing
Keldorn vs Drachma
Keldorn vs Sasarai
Keldorn vs Juan

Lang vs Isolde (MK)
Lang vs Belial
Lang vs Luther
Lang vs Kurando- Kurando can't 2HKO (even with Physical+Heavenquake), and doesn't 3-2 since Lang may very well start out faster. Mystic Arte is a go.
Lang vs Lulu- 3 Flares kill him, 1 doesn't set him below 50% HP, and he can't make damage stick without an MA.
Lang vs Sir Leopold- Lang only need a lose a little power to gain 50% boost on flyers! And can halve Ice and regen decent HP. Leopold is just going to get smashed up here, I think.
Lang vs Bosch- Think Bosch just OHKOs solidly enough for this.
Lang vs Zeno- Well...they both don't want to send the other below 50% HP...but Lang is about 0.7 SD above average and Zeno is about 0.5 SD. So...Lang will double eventually
Lang vs Jerin- Blocks Confuse, Good at Smashing
Lang vs Drachma- Gut. Sharon could Charm him in time I think though!
Lang vs Sasarai
Lang vs Juan

Lassic 5-6 (2-4, 3-2. Can play in Godlike, but isn't so dominating in Heavy that he obviously should be there).
Lang 5-7 (2-4, 3-3. Decent Heavy, whose large versalility can take a bite out of some Godlikes too.
Keldorn 2-10 (0-6, 2-4. Never got Keldorn for near Godlike hype. At all. Uh...Magic Resistance is great. HP is solid, Speed is nice. But damage is way too close to average. Not a bad Heavy, but even then he can't play on a higher level at all).
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 04:30:34 AM »
Lassic vs Belial - I don't think 4D Pocket hits bosses.
Lassic vs Luther - Luther's limit range is hard to chip around anyway.
Lassic vs Kurando - Kurando damage respect isn't that high.
Lassic vs Lulu - Evade Limit game works.
Lassic vs Sir Leopold - Resisted!
Lassic vs Jerin - Fire.
Lassic vs Drachma - Kneejerk.
Lassic vs Sasarai - Kneejerk.
Lassic vs Juan - Anti-Juan vote.

Lang vs Belial - 4D Pocket'd!
Lang vs Luther - Better Limit range!
Lang vs Kurando - Kurando damage respect... not found!
Lang vs Lulu - Eh... not sure. Leaning this way.
Lang vs Sir Leopold - The vs. Flying boost Dhyer mentioned sells it.
Lang vs Jerin - Kneejerk
Lang vs Drachma - Kneejerk
Lang vs Sasarai - Kneejerk
Lang vs Juan - Anti-Juan vote.
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 08:43:47 PM »
Might come back and review these.

Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK): Sword Creation twice and some misc damage should do it.
Lassic vs Kurando- Hrrrrrrrrrm. Not sure.
Lassic vs Bosch- Regen gives an edge?
Lassic vs Zeno: Blows through the dangerous range with Thunder Halbred.
Lassic vs Drachma- No Drachma respect. Might change if I look it back up.
Lassic vs Sasarai- Can't remember true Earth at the moment.
Lassic vs Juan- Rapes.

Need to review BG2 stas

Keldorn Firecam  (BG2) vs Isolde (MK)
Keldorn vs Kurando
Keldorn vs Bosch
Keldorn vs Zeno
Keldorn vs Drachma
Keldorn vs Sasarai
Keldorn vs Juan
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 07:16:18 PM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK)
Lassic vs Belial
Lassic vs Luther
Lassic vs Kurando- All the above run such circles around him that it's not worth analysing further.  Falls || short of the OHKO on Belial, needs it.
Lassic vs Lulu
Lassic vs Sir Leopold
Lassic vs Bosch
Lassic vs Zeno
Lassic vs Drachma
Lassic vs Sasarai
Lassic vs Juan

6/11

Lang vs Isolde (MK)
Lang vs Belial
Lang vs Luther
Lang vs Kurando
Lang vs Lulu
Lang vs Sir Leopold
Lang vs Bosch
Lang vs Zeno
Lang vs Drachma
Lang vs Sasarai
Lang vs Juan

5/11
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2009, 02:17:47 PM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK): Think he wins durability
Lassic vs Belial: MT damage that really really hurts.
Lassic vs Luther: Better at slugging?
Lassic vs Kurando: Speedy speedy healing.
Lassic vs Lulu: I guess she can kill before being doubled with Firaga.
Lassic vs Sir Leopold
Lassic vs Bosch
Lassic vs Zeno
Lassic vs Jerin: Very fast healing/ competent fire magic damage.
Lassic vs Drachma
Lassic vs Sasarai: Might be wrong. Doubt it offhand.
Lassic vs Juan

Lang vs Isolde (MK): Yeah no.
Lang vs Belial
Lang vs Luther: I think as a boss he has more control of the limit game.
Lang vs Kurando: Way the fuck too much speed. Puts Lang at 60% or something and then finishes him off from there.
Lang vs Lulu: I guess she can chip around the 50% range?
Lang vs Sir Leopold
Lang vs Bosch
Lang vs Zeno
Lang vs Jerin
Lang vs Drachma: Lang's best bet is to build 100 AP, use his magic, and then unleash the most powerful combo he can on the last turn?
Lang vs Sasarai
Lang vs Juan: I guess Lang wants to Buff up and try for an OHKO? Don't think that works.
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2009, 02:43:26 PM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK): Better slugger. 
Lassic vs Belial: MT damage and just enough durability to pull this off.
Lassic vs Luther: HP gives him the edge here.
Lassic vs Kurando: He's getting lots of turns so should be able to squeeze out the offense he needs.
Lassic vs Lulu: Parasitic Healing strategy should come through.
Lassic vs Sir Leopold: Kneejerk.
Lassic vs Bosch: Bosch's defenses with the Absolute Defense to help mitigate the damage give him the edge in this fight, I'm thinking.  Also better speed.
Lassic vs Zeno: Zeno is a considerably worse Bosch.
Lassic vs Jerin: Thinking Another Gate EVENTUALLY kills Jerin on the variance.
Lassic vs Drachma: Survives a Hand of Fate, don't think a tackle right after is quite enough, and I don't see even Drachma living long enough to pull off a second.
Lassic vs Sasarai: Thunder Halberd is physical...yeah...
Lassic vs Juan: Another Gate has no problems OHKOing Juan with the Sleep Damage bonus.

Lang vs Isolde (MK): Lang pulls off a Mystic Art, I think, and Isolde just sort of cries as she hates ITD.
Lang vs Belial: Too much offense.
Lang vs Luther: Mystic Arte again!
Lang vs Kurando: Kurando should be able to chip around that.
Lang vs Lulu: Very good at manipulating damage and blasting past limits.
Lang vs Sir Leopold: Leopold is not so much in this regard.
Lang vs Bosch: Mystic Artes ignoring defense are a really nice thing to have in cases like this.
Lang vs Zeno: see?
Lang vs Jerin: Jerin does not avoid Mystic Artes.
Lang vs Drachma: Drachma does though!
Lang vs Sasarai: Sasarai might...but I think the problem here can be summed as "Sasarai doesn't live long enough to matter."
Lang vs Juan: I think Lang w/ his pure damage combo, using that strength boosting spell or something, may just OHKO Juan through his sleep.
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2009, 04:00:49 PM »
Updating this tomorrow.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2009, 04:43:38 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Proving Grounds Heavy/Godlike 1
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2009, 05:07:59 PM »
Lassic (PSs) vs Isolde (MK) - Booms.
Lassic vs Belial - The insane turnsplit makes it close, but no.
Lassic vs Luther - Damages.
Lassic vs Lulu - Lassic's physical damage is a Thunder-elemental 4HKO failure. That's not helping against Lulu.
Lassic vs Sir Leopold - Sharply more durable, similar damage, not slower by enough.
Lassic vs Jerin - Not OHKOing Jerin is asking for it. I probably see Mirror hitting his good stuff anyway.
Lassic vs Sasarai - Mmmyeah. Close.
Lassic vs Juan - Wins even if you allow Juan the Yellow Scarf. Heh.

Lang vs Isolde (MK) - Lang goes first, Isolde SCs, laps and finishes him off. Seems pretty straightforward.
Lang vs Belial - Yup.
Lang vs Luther - Neither wants to put each other into limit range! Both are forced to! Luther wins more decisively with his in spite of Lang's limit being more brutal, though.
Lang vs Lulu - Chips like a champ and mocks his evadable damage.
Lang vs Sir Leopold - Being faster seals it, I think. Leopold's chipping isn't too bad, but is a bit unreliable.
Lang vs Jerin - Jerin against limit fighters isn't great.
Lang vs Sasarai - 2HKOs.
Lang vs Juan -... what the fuck I think he OHKOs and survives Lang's assault initially.
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