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In:

Nightburn: 38-29 57%
Alexia: 46-43 51.68%

Out:

Yulie: 58-53  51.37%

Tough break for Yulie, who went from first to last on the last vote. Tight field.


Yosuke- Can his evade and damage kick him up to Heavy?
Robo- Status immunity, damage, durability, healing. Will it cover his lack of speed?
Slade- Won't have to face Nash here!

Yosuke Hamamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Yosuke  vs Auron (FFX)
Yosuke vs Marsilio (SO2)
Yosuke vs Galcian (SoA)
Yosuke vs Hawk (SD3)
Yosuke vs  Zera Valmar (G2)
Yosuke vs Titania (FE9)
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1)
Yosuke vs Miakis (S5)
Yosuke vs Myau (PS1)
Yosuke vs Cania (WA2)
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7)

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2)
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)
Robo vs Hawk (SD3)
Robo vs  Zera Valmar (G2)
Robo vs Titania (FE9)
Robo vs Kraken (FF1)
Robo vs Miakis (S5)
Robo vs Myau (PS1)
Robo vs Cania (WA2)
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)

Slade  (SF2) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Slade  vs Auron (FFX)
Slade vs Marsilio (SO2)
Slade vs Galcian (SoA)
Slade vs Hawk (SD3)
Slade vs  Zera Valmar (G2)
Slade vs Titania (FE9)
Slade vs Kraken (FF1)
Slade vs Miakis (S5)
Slade vs Myau (PS1)
Slade vs Cania (WA2)
Slade vs Matthew (FE7)

Edit: Heavy will be up later tonight.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2009, 12:02:47 AM by superaielman »
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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 12:32:50 AM »
Robo vs Hawk (SD3) - Robo's slow enough for stat down spamming to be effective for sure. I'm not sure Robo would even win a straight-up slugfest anyhow.
Robo vs Kraken (FF1) - DoS Kraken.
Robo vs Matthew (FE7) - Vote changes if anyone can make a convincing case that Shock is ITE, as I think Robo can survive 3 rounds of Matthew attacks. 6, not so much.

Slade vs Hawk (SD3) - Really not sure on this one.
Slade vs Kraken (FF1)
Slade vs Matthew (FE7) - Evade and MP issues hurt Slade here.

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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2009, 12:49:16 AM »
Yosuke Hanamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1) - EDIT: Wait, Endure. Yeah, Yosuke goes for Auto-Taru, recklessly attacks and kills first. Go figure.
Yosuke  vs Auron (FFX) - Sukukaja makes things ugly for Auron, and he needs to connect both Power and Magic break to hamper Yosuke's offense decisively. Auron getting lapped rather often doesn't help matters.
Yosuke vs Marsilio (SO2) - Yosuke equips for evade/speed, opens with Sukukaja. Now, Marsilio sucks at offense and Yosuke can hope to outslug.
Yosuke vs Hawk (SD3) - Silence just ends the world when it hits.
Yosuke vs  Zera Valmar (G2) - Honestly feel inclined to give him the benefit of doubt because Zera sucks. Equipping for speed should give him the first turn, and he may well 2HKO. Auto-Endure gives him the needed last gasp. Zera really wishes Yosuke's persona didn't upgrade for sweet weakness hitting.
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1) - 3HKOs first.
Yosuke vs Miakis (S5) - Okay, Miakis could go first, which could tilt things in her favor. Assuming she doesn't, though... Yosuke has similar healing, damage and durability, but far deeper resources. If Miakis tries to hax for Berserk, Yosuke answers with Sukukaja or Brave Blade. Huh.
Yosuke vs Myau (PS1) - 2HKOs first.
Yosuke vs Caina (WA2) - No such luck here. Sukukaja can help some, but it's only delaying the inevitable, particularly given Caina having actual HP.
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7) - Matthew... is actually not terribly accurate? Weird.

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1) - 2HKOs and is about as slow as Robo. Initiative screws over the numbers game something fierce.
Robo vs. Auron (FFX) - Power Break+initiative = more numbers game screwing.
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2) - Marsillio hits Robo's pdur. That can't help much.
Robo vs Hawk (SD3) - Jutsus fuck over Robo's offense and hit his woeful MDef.
Robo vs  Zera Valmar (G2) - 2HKOs off much higher speed -and- probably 2HKOs through healing. Robo mdur is horrible.
Robo vs Kraken (FF1) - HITS LIGHTNING WEAKNESS or something. Mainly, Kraken hits the better defense.
Robo vs Miakis (S5) - Mmmmyeah. Miakis needed magical damage.
Robo vs Myau (PS1) - Yeah.
Robo vs Caina (WA2) - Um. I think she may even go first, but whether she does or not is irrelevant, she can take a full-power Uzzi Punch and a weaker follow-up.
Robo vs Matthew (FE7) - The evade makes Robo sad, and Matthew goes first, which helps mitigate the numbercrunching. Granted, he probably needs the horrible ID here.

Slade (SF2) vs Albert Simon (SH1) - 2HKOs and isn't 2HKOed.
Slade vs. Auron (FFX) - Um.
Slade vs Marsilio (SO2) - Think he 2HKOs, though.
Slade vs Hawk (SD3) - I'm guessing Slade is faster, so he Raijins, then gets silenced and finishes the job.
Slade vs Zera Valmar (G2) - I guess he's faster. They're 2HKOing each other.
Slade vs Kraken (FF1) - Goes first, 2HKOs with non-elemental magic. That's that.
Slade vs Miakis (S5) - I guess. Miakis runs him out of MP, borderline 2HKOs him and may well be faster. The ID could tilt things here, but dunno.
Slade vs Myau (PS1) - Right.
Slade vs Caina (WA2) - Yeah.
Slade vs Matthew (FE7) - Dodges.
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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2009, 02:09:34 AM »
Yosuke Hamamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- !!! puts too much pressure on him.
Yosuke vs Auron (FFX)- Auron has massive issues hitting here. Confusion also throws him for a loop.
Yosuke vs Marsilio (SO2)- Evade!
Yosuke vs Galcian (SoA)- Eternum.
Yosuke vs Hawk (SD3)- He's getting two shots in before  Hawk is even getting to go. Silence is bad, but not bad enough when Yosuke gets the drop on him.
Yosuke vs  Zera Valmar (G2)- Zera has issues connecting with any kind of damage here.
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1)- Evade.
Yosuke vs Miakis (S5)- Same game, better at it.
Yosuke vs Myau (PS1)- What Snow said.
Yosuke vs Cania (WA2)- Status.
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7)- Evasion spell just fucks Matthew's offense up too much.

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- !!! again.
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)- Auron's damage is ITD to boot.
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2)- I think?
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)
Robo vs Hawk (SD3)- Sure, I'll bite.
Robo vs  Zera Valmar (G2)
Robo vs Kraken (FF1)
Robo vs Miakis (S5)
Robo vs Myau (PS1)- Help lets Myau kep up the pressure.
Robo vs Cania (WA2)
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)- Silencer.

Slade (SF2) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- !!!.
Slade  vs Auron (FFX)- ID should get Auron in time. It's a good thing he has it, or Auron would mop the floor with him. 
Slade vs Marsilio (SO2)
Slade vs Galcian (SoA)
Slade vs Hawk (SD3)- too much offense.
Slade vs Zera Valmar (G2)- Should 2HKo.
Slade vs Kraken (FF1)
Slade vs Miakis (S5)- Miakis is notably below average HP. it means Slade can pretty easily heal lock with a physical/Raijin.
Slade vs Myau (PS1)
Slade vs Cania (WA2)
Slade vs Matthew (FE7)

Yosuke: 9-2
Slade: 5-6
Robo: 4-7
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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 02:30:11 AM »
Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- !!! again.
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)- Auron's damage is ITD to boot.
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2)- I think?
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)
Robo vs Hawk (SD3)- Sure, I'll bite.
Robo vs  Zera Valmar (G2)
Robo vs Kraken (FF1)
Robo vs Miakis (S5)
Robo vs Myau (PS1)- Help lets Myau kep up the pressure.
Robo vs Cania (WA2)
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)- Silencer.

Slade (SF2) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- !!!.
Slade  vs Auron (FFX)- ID should get Auron in time. It's a good thing he has it, or Auron would mop the floor with him. 
Slade vs Marsilio (SO2)
Slade vs Galcian (SoA)
Slade vs Hawk (SD3)- too much offense.
Slade vs Zera Valmar (G2)- Should 2HKo.
Slade vs Kraken (FF1)
Slade vs Miakis (S5)- Miakis is notably below average HP. it means Slade can pretty easily heal lock with a physical/Raijin.
Slade vs Myau (PS1)
Slade vs Cania (WA2)
Slade vs Matthew (FE7)

Slade: 5-6
Robo: 4-7

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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2009, 03:02:11 AM »
Yosuke Hamamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Yosuke  vs Auron (FFX)
Yosuke vs Galcian (SoA)
Yosuke vs Titania (FE9): Sukukaja.
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1): And again.
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7): Matthew's skill isn't that great. Jaffar would have the best shot of the assassins.

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)
Robo vs Titania (FE9): ...3HKOs with Shock, Titania can't kill before.
Robo vs Kraken (FF1): Hrm.
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)
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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2009, 10:18:52 PM »
Yosuke Hamamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1): Albert needs to not be 3HKOed, right? !!!, physical twice, the fact that the physical is multiple hits means he won't be evade haxed. Yeah I give him the HP for this.
Yosuke  vs Auron (FFX): Auron's accuracy is 25% post Sukukaja. Man, he's really up shit creek.
Yosuke vs Marsilio (SO2): Big damage/HP edge, and as I noted in the FIT topic physical oriented wisemen are nigh impossible to evade.
Yosuke vs Galcian (SoA)
Yosuke vs Hawk (SD3)
Yosuke vs  Zera Valmar (G2): Yosuke was somewhat tanky, so I don't think Zera raw 2HKOs him.
Yosuke vs Titania (FE9)
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1)
Yosuke vs Miakis (S5)
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7): Sukukaja also being an accuracy booster makes this real one sided.

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2): 3-2 and 3HKO.
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)
Robo vs Hawk (SD3)
Robo vs Zera Valmar (G2)
Robo vs Titania (FE9)
Robo vs Kraken (FF1)
Robo vs Miakis (S5)
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)

Yosuke: 5-5
Robo: 3-7

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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 08:37:47 PM »
Yosuke Hamamura (Persona 4) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- Albert Simon
Yosuke  vs Auron (FFX)- Yosuke. Although Auron getting in that first hit does make it closer.
Yosuke vs Marsilio (SO2)- Marsilio. Yeah, think he is pretty accurate. Maybe if Sukukaja had an better duration or something.
Yosuke vs Galcian (SoA)- Galcian
Yosuke vs Hawk (SD3)- Yosuke. Halves Silence, is faster, 2HKOs.
Yosuke vs  Zera Valmar (G2)- Zera. Isn’t Yosuke kind of weak to status at that? Zera’s also stupidly fast, so I don’t even have to think about Yosuke’s evading the magic.
Yosuke vs Titania (FE9)- Yosuke
Yosuke vs Kraken (FF1)- Yosuke. DoS Kraken
Yosuke vs Miakis (S5)- Yosuke
Yosuke vs Myau (PS1)- Yosuke
Yosuke vs Cania (WA2)- Caina
Yosuke vs Matthew (FE7)- Yosuke

Robo (CT) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- Albert Simon
Robo  vs Auron (FFX)- Auron
Robo vs Marsilio (SO2)- Marsilio. Robo’s Pdef isn’t as good as I gutted
Robo vs Galcian (SoA)- Galcian
Robo vs Hawk (SD3)- Hawk
Robo vs  Zera Valmar (G2)- Valmar
Robo vs Titania (FE9)- Robo
Robo vs Kraken (FF1)- Robo. DoS Kraken
Robo vs Miakis (S5)- Robo. I guess?
Robo vs Myau (PS1)- Myau. Attack first turn to get rid of the 9s, then Help+Physical.
Robo vs Cania (WA2)- Caina
Robo vs Matthew (FE7)- Matthew

Slade  (SF2) vs Albert Simon (SH1)- Albert Simon
Slade  vs Auron (FFX)- Slade. Yep, boss hitting ID would work here to me.
Slade vs Marsilio (SO2)- Marsilio
Slade vs Galcian (SoA)- Galcian
Slade vs Hawk (SD3)- Slade
Slade vs  Zera Valmar (G2)- Valmar
Slade vs Titania (FE9)- Slade
Slade vs Kraken (FF1)- Slade
Slade vs Miakis (S5)- Slade
Slade vs Myau (PS1)- Slade
Slade vs Cania (WA2)- Caina
Slade vs Matthew (FE7)- Hmm, unsure. Depends on if Matthew gets to evade Slade’s magic.

Yousuke 7-5 (2-4, 5-1)
Slade 6-5 (2-4, 4-1)
Robo 3-9 (0-6, 3-3) (Average Middle, not even a great physical spoiler)
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Re: Proving grounds H/M 3: Ninja rats, robots, and Souji's wingman.
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 03:02:11 AM »
Need more votes. Edit: Eh, this round is pretty well decided. May as well update.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2009, 03:36:53 AM by superaielman »
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