Nyarlathotep's Dungeon: Week 99

[Nephrite]

"Hm... I suppose I OUGHT to congratulate you... by giving you something even harder. Hahahahaha!"


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**Full Heals reset limit and other types of gauges when teams pass through them.

Team Djinn to be uploaded later.


Team MICHAEL | T260G, Mesarthim, Yulie (Body Charge), Raynie, Marco
[T260G: Type-6 Body [EngineerCar] [(Energysupply) InterceptSystem, Magnify, PluralSlash, ShootingMastery CombatMastery & MaxwellProgram ]
Floor 6b: Overachievers
Team MICHAEL vs. Myria 1 and Sara
*Full Heal*
Team Mr. President vs. Katrina and Charlton Blunt (XF)
*Full Heal*
Team USA vs. BossX and MBlackIII
*Full Heal*
Team MERICA vs. Loki and Surt
*Full Heal*
Team MICHAEL WILSON vs. Apocrypha and Heiss


Team Pyro | Bartz, Hilda, Eiko, Jean, Marco (Body Charge)
[Bartz: !Summon !Mix (Time Mage) (Red Mage) (Chemist) (Ninja) (Monk)]
Floor 5b: All or Nothing
***Take the best stats and equipment bonuses from each character, status immunities from each part, all skillsets and any multiple-acting inclusive.
Team Pyro vs. ZeraAll (Zerase and Zera Valmar)
Team Pyro vs. NinaAll (BoF1, 2, 3 and 4) and and MiaAll (GS, FE9 and Lunar)
Team Pyro vs. GuyAll  (FE7, Lufia 2, CC(Guile) and TotA) MomoAll (BoF3 and XS3)
Team Pyro vs. JeanAll (Lunar2 and BoF2) and TonyAll (WA4, XF and MK)
Team Pyro vs. MarAll  (Mario and Marcello)


Team Dhyer | [ Nina, Ursula, Scias ] (Ryu, Cray (Items) & Ershin) (Synergy)
Floor 2b: Magical Mystery
Team Dhyer vs. FFT Wizard, FF1 Black Wizard, FF5 Black Mage and Vivi
Team Dhyer vs. Nina1, Nina2 and Nina3
Team Dhyer vs. Lemina, Mia, Ronfar, Jessica and Luna
Team Dhyer vs. Sarah (S3), Cleo and Bernadette
Team Dhyer vs. Lyon and Nergal

Life - One character's healing effects now also allows for revival, however the healing also only revives characters with 1 HP. The healing received from spells that hit more than one target may be used as revival once per battle.

Neo Speed - The effective speed of one character is increased by 10% and increases 20% each time that character takes a turn, this effect caps at 2x base speed. The speed of this character cannot be increased in any way, nor can this character grant or be granted turns via any manner. If the character dies the speed is removed and cannot be regained.

Body Charge - Increases damage and effective speed of a character by 1.3x and decreases damage to them to .7x.

Synergy [BoF4] - Three PCs out at once, may switch on turns individually. Game over!!! if all PCs are incapacitated. Cray is allowed the use of storebought, consumable items within reason.

[Pyro]

Mix provides nigh-infinite resources thanks to MP restoration. Also full HP/MP revival, Charm status, and status healing and buffing and so on.
Summon has Golem, Carbuncle, and various forms of damage, possibly even Syldra at this point [Edit: I don't think so, Snow did. Next floor (F6) is where all the broken opens up short of Bahamut/Odin/Phoenix/Big Guard though)

Note: Bartz can restore MP fully and plentifully with Mix, so resources are not an issue. Even his (100%) revival restores all MP too.

Team Pyro | Bartz, Hilda, Eiko, Jean, Marco (Body Charge)
[Bartz: !Summon !Mix (Time Mage) (Red Mage) (Chemist) (Ninja) (Monk)]
Floor 5b: All or Nothing
***Take the best stats and equipment bonuses from each character, status immunities from each part, all skillsets and any multiple-acting inclusive.
Team Pyro vs. ZeraAll (Zerase and Zera Valmar): Carbuncle makes this, well, a joke. Neither has anything worthwhile that can bust through Reflect. Even if you DO give Zerase's L4 the ability to violate reflect, that leaves no one on my team dead and I just heal up afterwards via Eiko (doubled if necessary via Marco).
Team Pyro vs. NinaAll (BoF1, 2, 3 and 4) and and MiaAll (GS, FE9 and Lunar): Jean is faster than both and I would argue Marco is too. Even without Marco being faster than Nina, there is just too much status/ID coming down at MiaAll for her to stay in the fight. Besides that I have 4 revivers to deal with NinaAll. Also Carbuncle kinda de-claws that bird.
Turn Order if you view Nina4 faster than 130% is...
Jean -> Nina -> Marco -> Mia -> Eiko -> Bartz -> Hilda
Jean just throws status at Mia to start, which is an even split to just take her out of the fight and turn the entire battle into a cakewalk as either Mia stays statused/IDd and Nina gets ganged up on.
If Jean misses...
-Nina follows up by ID'ing Marco (trying anything else opens up Mia to be statused or ID'd when Marco TT's to Bartz or Hilda)
- MiaAll goes next and statuses (Sleep Djinni Unleash?) Bartz or Hilda (or kills Bartz with a doubled physical if that's a viable option, but I don't think it is). If Hilda, Bartz charms Mia and that's a nasty end to the fight. If Bartz, Eiko revives Marco while Hilda ID's Mia and Nina is up against 5 people with lots of revival and status healing. MiaAll is going down no matter what, and there doesn't seem like a good out for NinaAll.
Team Pyro vs. GuyAll  (FE7, Lufia 2, CC(Guile) and TotA) MomoAll (BoF3 and XS3): GuyAll is vulnerable to ID so Marco TT's Hilda for that . MomoAll is slow and is not living to see a second turn even if she manages to gets a first one. Team can heal up in prep for the next fight...
Team Pyro vs. JeanAll (Lunar2 and BoF2) and TonyAll (WA4, XF and MK): I'd argue my Jean is faster due to Lucia making her look better. So again...
Tony->Jean->JeanAll->Marco->Tony->Eiko->Bartz->Hilda. Let's say Tony wails on Bartz, Jean ID's Marco, Tony finishes off Bartz. Eiko revives Bartz/Marco while Hilda ID's JeanAll. Jean keeps hitting Tony after this point... Tony wails on Marco (let's say he kills him), Jean hits him, Tony offs Bartz, Eiko revives Bartz while Hilda full-revives (with CT) Marco. Tony isn't in a good condition at this point I don't think.
Team Pyro vs. MarAll  (Mario and Marcello) : Straightforward: My team has can undo whatever he does in a turn while hitting him and restoring resources as needed. If he focus fires on Bartz then Hilda revives him and he'll get a turn via Marco to restore resources as need be. No problem.



Team MICHAEL | T260G, Mesarthim, Yulie (Body Charge), Raynie, Marco
[T260G: Type-6 Body [EngineerCar] [(Energysupply) InterceptSystem, Magnify, PluralSlash, ShootingMastery CombatMastery & MaxwellProgram ]
Floor 6b: Overachievers
Team MICHAEL vs. Myria 1 and Sara: Myria 1 can't take anyone out before the team heals, and Sara's turn doesn't line up well to help with that. Yulie can QUicken herself or something to make a mockery of Myria's damage dealing capacity. Team isn't lacking for magic offense to deal with them.
*Full Heal*
Team Mr. President vs. Katrina and Charlton Blunt (XF): Charlton's MT Disease move can be cured by Marco, and Katrina isn't a threat at high HP and isn't beating this team alone. Charlton is frail and gets blitzd.
*Full Heal*
Team USA vs. BossX and MBlackIII: I don't remember so I'll assume the team passes based on Snow.
*Full Heal*
Team MERICA vs. Loki and Surt: They want to prevent them from getting turns together and putting out MT overkill. Well even if they DO put out MT overkill, some judicious use of turns can see Yulie Protecting T260G into finishing it by herself or something.
*Full Heal*
Team MICHAEL WILSON vs. Apocrypha and Heiss: Not a threat, this fight.

 Team Dhyer | [ Nina, Ursula, Scias ] (Ryu, Cray (Items) & Ershin) (Synergy)
Floor 2b: Magical Mystery
Team Dhyer vs. FFT Wizard, FF1 Black Wizard, FF5 Black Mage and Vivi: try for a magic blitz? how good is the combo magic? can Dhyer elaborate on what his team can do?
Team Dhyer vs. Nina1, Nina2 and Nina3
Team Dhyer vs. Lemina, Mia, Ronfar, Jessica and Luna
Team Dhyer vs. Sarah (S3), Cleo and Bernadette
Team Dhyer vs. Lyon and Nergal

[Dark Holy Elf]

Syldra can't be gained until the final dungeon opens, so probably isn't around this floor.

FF5 reflect doesn't work on the game's meteor attacks (and in general has problems with always-MT attacks) at so Zerase's L4 at least should go through it. For all that ZeraAll is nearly OHKOed by Throw most likely (with Marco able to supply this turn and Jean to finish at worst), so this shouldn't matter.

[Nephrite]

I think Zerase or Zera might outspeed summoner Bartz anyway? I dunno.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

They don't outspeed BC Marco, which is all that matters.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Team MICHAEL | T260G, Mesarthim, Yulie (Body Charge), Raynie, Marco
[T260G: Type-6 Body [EngineerCar] [(Energysupply) InterceptSystem, Magnify, PluralSlash, ShootingMastery CombatMastery & MaxwellProgram ]
Floor 6b: Overachievers
Team MICHAEL vs. Myria 1 and Sara - Hmmm. Sara has about 4x PC HP and ST 3HKO. Now, if Gale is MT, it's a pretty awful idea: whoamg borderline 4-5HKO that doesn't even help finish nearly anyone off. So, if Myria wants to kill -anyone-, she's pretty much relying on ST. Not great. With this difference, suddenly the fight turns a whole lot more manageable. It's a grind, but resources for Team Neph aren't a big issue when he can actually spread 'em out, and he can focus fire on Myria until she dies.
*Full Heal*
Team Mr. President vs. Katrina and Charlton Blunt (XF) - Marco equips for Silence immunity and spams his MT status healing to counter Charlton's status. Katrina isn't very good at full HP and she's manageable by a full team even when she turns completely nuts.
*Full Heal*
Team USA vs. BossX and MBlackIII - sure why not. BossX and MBlack are far more soloable by Protected T2 than Myria+Jade, that's for sure.
*Full Heal*
Team MERICA vs. Loki and Surt - Magnify+Maelstrom+Raynie G-whatever (Yulie Quickens Raynie to guarantee a turn) KO Loki to me. From there, it's smooth sailing.
*Full Heal*
Team MICHAEL WILSON vs. Apocrypha and Heiss - Um yeah.

Team Pyro | Bartz, Hilda, Eiko, Jean, Marco (Body Charge)
[Bartz: !Summon !Mix (Time Mage) (Red Mage) (Chemist) (Ninja) (Monk)]
Floor 5b: All or Nothing
***Take the best stats and equipment bonuses from each character, status immunities from each part, all skillsets and any multiple-acting inclusive.
Team Pyro vs. ZeraAll (Zerase and Zera Valmar) - Well, even if Jean x2 doesn't handle ZeraAll, meteors OHKO zero people and Eiko's MT healing is kinda hax.
Team Pyro vs. NinaAll (BoF1, 2, 3 and 4) and and MiaAll (GS, FE9 and Lunar) - NinaAll can ID anyone but Hilda here, but not sure that sticks -anywhere- with this much revival and Jean possibly 2HKOs that by herself. MiaAll eats Grand Slam all day long.
Team Pyro vs. GuyAll  (FE7, Lufia 2, CC(Guile) and TotA) MomoAll (BoF3 and XS3) - Jean+Summoner sweep this.
Team Pyro vs. JeanAll (Lunar2 and BoF2) and TonyAll (WA4, XF and MK) - Similar deal. JeanAll eats Grand Slam (BC Marco ensures that happens ultra-fast if Jean doesn't aim the ID there, and Jean herself is a clear threat with status) and Golem >>>> TonyAll, so there's a -lot- of people they want dead immediately and have issues dealing with. The pressure is kinda notable, but once again, this is a LOT of revival. It's hard to plow through.
Team Pyro vs. MarAll  (Mario and Marcello) - Yyyyyyyyyyyyyeah. Marcello can even one-round single people with Super Jump x2, but I kinda doubt the ability of its pressure powers against three revivers and not wanting to dispel its Ghost Medal effect (meaning Hilda can apply buffs at her leisure if she cares).

Team Dhyer | [ Nina, Ursula, Scias ] (Ryu, Cray (Items) & Ershin) (Synergy)
Floor 2b: Magical Mystery
Team Dhyer vs. FFT Wizard, FF1 Black Wizard, FF5 Black Mage and Vivi - Good news: The mage ensemble is uniformly faster than all these losers. Bad news: FFT Wizard and Vivi can wall the damage to varying degrees. Good news: FFT Wizard likely bites it anyway. BETTER news: Nina gets Cyclone to me here. Vivi alone brutally sucks at making waves and Ursula can Silence him to let Nina heal people up.
Team Dhyer vs. Nina1, Nina2 and Nina3 - Hm, kinda tricky. Nina1 Wall and her magic counters make a magical blitz risky. HOWEVER, Scias can OHKO Nina2 pretty much immediately and Ryu+Cray SHOULD handle Nina1 as well. Ursula may be able to swap in for Cray instead if you care. Nina1 also -has- to open with Wall/Dispel somewhere lest she wants people to eat it to status, which both Ursula and Scias provide in spades.
Team Dhyer vs. Lemina, Mia, Ronfar, Jessica and Luna - Once again, team blitz makes a showing. Mia outspeeds Ursula, but it doesn't matter, since Cyclone => Jolt => Cyclone is pretty much death.
Team Dhyer vs. Sarah (S3), Cleo and Bernadette - Okay, formation here should be Scias-Ursula-Ryu. Scias KOs Bern, Ursula and Ryu handle Sarah. Cleo gets an Explosion in, but alone, she can't really make waves. So, Dhyer shuffles Nina in and out to run Cleo out of Explosion charges, and once that's done, she can just heal everybody into shape. He should make healthy use of CP to keep the healing game up, but Scias now is relegated to his physical.
Team Dhyer vs. Lyon and Nergal - Nina+Ursula continue their sweeping game of doom. Scias or Ryu can poke in to finish the losers off.

[Nephrite]

EnergySupply is 50 WP recovery, so resources shouldn't be much of an issue.

That, and if physicalling is an issue, T260 can just bring in a lot of guns to use Magnify several times.

[Nephrite]

Oh, I'm going to modify the fight to be Myria1 and Sara, since in theory, even if Jo'ou is the only one who sees the bosses as crazy durable, that's still probably too much damage going around for that floor. Don't mind if people still vote on Myria1 & Jade for my team though in case anyone thinks it's unfair.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

The guns limit her stats, though and there's still the fact that Jade, the -least- durable enemy in that setup, is like 6x PC HP -raw-. Assuming T2 can bring six Laser Scopes, uh, that's still six turns spent on that, and that's gonna be a -hefty- hit to her durability in general, to the point that a tanking strategy isn't viable.

EDIT: Yay, modified fights!

[Nephrite]

Oh, and since T260 is EngineerCar here, she also has 10 shots of REPAIR PACK!!!

I cannot believe I am hyping that.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Repair Pack was her goddamn best shot at handling Myria+Jade. >_> Anyhow, already edited fights in order to reflect changed shuffles.

[Dhyerwolf]

Team MICHAEL | T260G, Mesarthim, Yulie (Body Charge), Raynie, Marco
[T260G: Type-6 Body [EngineerCar] [(Energysupply) InterceptSystem, Magnify, PluralSlash, ShootingMastery CombatMastery & MaxwellProgram ]
Floor 6b: Overachievers
Team MICHAEL vs. Myria 1 and Sara- FYI, this fight is now horrible. Jade was the one really worth anything, because arguably Myria and Sara combined don't even approach the damage Jade did alone. Easy pass.
*Full Heal*
Team Mr. President vs. Katrina and Charlton Blunt (XF)- This fight is pretty solid, but not something the team really has a problem with. Katrina is a solid staller
*Full Heal*
Team USA vs. BossX and MblackIII- Ugh, you keep trying to make me load the Saga boss topic.
*Full Heal*
Team MERICA vs. Loki and Surt
*Full Heal*
Team MICHAEL WILSON vs. Apocrypha and Heiss- These guys both of kind of suck setting wise (Heiss might be vaguely scary on the ST floor on 3, Apocrypha is a limit boss stuck on 40% blockable damage until the PCs choose to buff up.


Team Pyro | Bartz, Hilda, Eiko, Jean, Marco (Body Charge)
[Bartz: !Summon !Mix (Time Mage) (Red Mage) (Chemist) (Ninja) (Monk)]
Floor 5b: All or Nothing
***Take the best stats and equipment bonuses from each character, status immunities from each part, all skillsets and any multiple-acting inclusive.
Team Pyro vs. ZeraAll (Zerase and Zera Valmar)- Zera needed more speed
Team Pyro vs. NinaAll (BoF1, 2, 3 and 4) and and MiaAll (GS, FE9 and Lunar)
Team Pyro vs. GuyAll  (FE7, Lufia 2, CC(Guile) and TotA) MomoAll (BoF3 and XS3)
Team Pyro vs. JeanAll (Lunar2 and BoF2) and TonyAll (WA4, XF and MK)
Team Pyro vs. MarAll  (Mario and Marcello)- Well, at least Marcello's HP doesn't get scaled down here. Throwing out some ST pain (although not much) and not really anything else though does not make this fight scary at all though.


Team Dhyer | [ Nina, Ursula, Scias ] (Ryu, Cray (Items) & Ershin) (Synergy)
I don't really even know how much damage I have...
Floor 2b: Magical Mystery
Team Dhyer vs. FFT Wizard, FF1 Black Wizard, FF5 Black Mage and Vivi- MT barrage should work here though.
Team Dhyer vs. Nina1, Nina2 and Nina3- Can get Nina 2 out of the way, neither of the other two approach danger
Team Dhyer vs. Lemina, Mia, Ronfar, Jessica and Luna- More MT against slower people
Team Dhyer vs. Sarah (S3), Cleo and Bernadette- Some MT barrage+Scias
Team Dhyer vs. Lyon and Nergal- These two are not impressive on the whole.

[Random Consonant]

Teams Neph/Pyro/Dhyer all pass.

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

Team MICHAEL | T260G, Mesarthim, Yulie (Body Charge), Raynie, Marco
[T260G: Type-6 Body [EngineerCar] [(Energysupply) InterceptSystem, Magnify, PluralSlash, ShootingMastery CombatMastery & MaxwellProgram ]
Floor 6b: Overachievers
Team MICHAEL vs. Myria 1 and Sara- FYI, this fight is now horrible. Jade was the one really worth anything, because arguably Myria and Sara combined don't even approach the damage Jade did alone. Easy pass.

Yes, and the alternative is the fight being completely insane depending on interp. I honestly want to propose banning Myria1 from the Dungeon outright after all these years, because nobody can agree on Myria1 ever. It's fucking impossible to balance the split between not scaling her against Agni and doing so.

Team Pyro vs. MarAll  (Mario and Marcello)- Well, at least Marcello's HP doesn't get scaled down here. Throwing out some ST pain (although not much) and not really anything else though does not make this fight scary at all though.

Strangely, Mareg in there made the fight more interesting, since he has something resembling physical crowd control, even if limited. I'm not sure, I felt Margie+Marcy+Mary was pretty well balanced. Mario... well. >_> ST one-rounding off limited resources < MT 2HKO in-dungeon and Marcy doesn't even want to Dispel anymore because that utterly tanks his durability, so he now falls bait to buffing.

[Pyro]

Originally Mariel was going to be in there too. But GB+large healing off double-acting was a bit...

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

A bit Oz.

[Nephrite]

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I honestly want to propose banning Myria1 from the Dungeon outright after all these years,

Done.