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Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« on: December 22, 2012, 03:16:00 PM »
The concept of the topic's pretty simple, I have ran this one before. I take an old season from the DL, and replay it here on the tournament board to see how it would go today.  Normal DL rules apply here. Addition: If a particular obscure fighter gets less than three votes on a match, said fighter is disqualified and his opponent moves on. Rule of Lutz, more or less.

Anyway, onto the matches!

Godlike:

Ash Lambert (VH) vs Galcian (SoA)
Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4)

Heavy:

Teepo (BoF3) vs Stahn Aileron (ToD)
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2)
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC)
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)

Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)
Lutz (AtLC) vs FuSoYa (FF4)
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4)
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9)

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2)
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC)
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE)
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2)
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 03:26:04 PM »

Ash Lambert (VH) vs Galcian (SoA)- Eternum.
Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)- Lamington's defense gives Scias some serious issues here. He might outlast, but I doubt it.
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)- This depends entirely on if I let Brahms burn through the forms in a single bloody curse. I'm open to arguments that he shouldn't, feels weird that he beats PD.
Songi (LoL1) vsZio (PS4)- Kneejerk him as a better slugger. Going first helps too.

Heavy:

Teepo (BoF3) vs Stahn Aileron (ToD)
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2)- OHKO. Mazus's offense is insanity if you do not wall elements, he does over 2000 freaking damage with a single Blazing Camp. Alena is reasonably durable, but she isn't Ragnar. She doesn't turn 1 crit either, so she has no real chance at this.
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC)- Harle is pretty bad, I don't think there is a scaling of Laike that lets her win this. That said, I can see the argument to antivote Laike so yeah.
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)

Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)- Heavy vs Light. High Light vs a weak Heavy, but still.
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4)- IIRC Cray couldn't immune status. Will change my vote if he could.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9)- Spoils.

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2)- SO2 lights.
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC)- Death.
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE)- I remember Keele being that fucking bad.
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2)- SO2 lights.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2012, 07:37:52 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 03:39:06 PM »
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4) - Dude, Brahms gets OHKOed by Shadow Breath (his mdur is HORRIBLE) and Bloody Curse is like a 25% chance.
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4) - Suspect Songi loses the slugfest through having less durability. Songi's faster, but doesn't matter.

Heavy:

Teepo (BoF3) vs Stahn Aileron (ToD) - Heavy boss vs. Light slugger. (y)
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2) - Um yeah, Mazus deals like nearly 2x PC HP with Blazing Camp. Mazus durability isn't even that poor due to that Mist Robe and averagish HP.
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC) - Laike antivote sounds -great-.
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - lul

Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2) - Jesus.
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4) - um. status resistance doesn't really tip this.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9) - FF9 equipment nonsense.

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2) - Noel.
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC) - Well yeah, Spiritual Thorn.
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2) - Leon.
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 06:27:03 PM »
Godlike:

Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea): Scias can resist Judgement but he's still 2HKOed by a physical (crit + non-crit even) so he only makes headway on doubleturns or if he evades (15%... though Lamington is accurate so probably lower). He's partly ITD which helps, but he still only has the MP for ~13 useful actions (Rejuvenate or Shining Blade) which just isn't enough, I think.
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4): VP2 Brahms... although VP2 Brahms didn't exist then, so which do I vote on? VP2 loses pretty obviously. VP1... still loses. He only wins with the following combination of factors: (a) You don't do HP buffering at all [even partial HP buffering which I do saves her], (b) you see him surviving a Shadowbreath, (c) you see him fragile enough to be 2HKOed by Flamebreath so that he can reach his limit whatever PD does [pretty small window when combined with the previous], (d) you see him as faster than PD, (e) you view one 25% chance and one 50% chance as good enough to get off Bloody Curse [it's between 50% and 67%, so depends on threshold]. That's a lot of things that have to fall his way.

Heavy:

Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2): Sure, I'll trust Super+Snow enough to not bother mathing this.
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC): Abstain on Laike today. Doesn't matter long-term because...
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4): Chaz in Heavy is mean. Probably faster, doesn't matter because he has ID which Haschel doesn't block.

Middle:

Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4): Cray can resist status by 50% and even block whichever one is most offensive. None of this saves him, he's too slow to kill Nash before Nash does something nasty with sleep or paralysis or ID.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9): Nulls earth.

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2): Fear.
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC): EDIT: VP2 is legit? Okay then. Spiritual Thorn is go.
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2): This is close I think? *checks* Oh, guess not.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2012, 08:03:44 PM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 07:14:40 PM »
Elfboy: I think the point is doing old seasons with new views as well as new existing info+forms. So, whatever floats your boat~
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 07:40:16 PM »
Yeah, it includes new forms/etc. It will make for a little wonkiness, but that is some of the fun. ALSO.

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 07:46:55 PM »
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 07:50:22 PM »
Godlike:

Ash Lambert (VH) vs Galcian (SoA)- Non.
Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)- Spoil'd
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)- HP Buffering.
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4)- No vote.

Heavy:

Teepo (BoF3) vs Stahn Aileron (ToD)- Nope.
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2)- I'd have to see Alena uh double average which she doesn't.
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC)- Kneejerk he outlasts Harle's meaningful offense? 
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)

Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)- No vote.
Lutz (AtLC) vs FuSoYa (FF4)- No vote.
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4)
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9)

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2)
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC)
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE)- Good lord what was Keele's default moveset.  Any form of healing is enough... *research* Nope.  Liz like 5HKOs with his physical, Keele fails to do that even with a bunch of spells I don't think are legal for him.
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2)
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 10:25:09 PM »
Godlike:

Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4)

Heavy:

Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC)


Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4)
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9)

Light:

Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC)
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE)
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2)

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 02:12:55 AM »
Godlike
Ash Lambert (VH) vs Galcian (SoA)
Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)

Heavy
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2)
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC)

Middle
Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4)
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9)

Light
Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2)
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC)
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2)

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 01:13:25 PM »
Going to update this over the weekend, so get your votes in now!
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 10:23:58 PM »
Ash Lambert (VH) vs Galcian (SoA): Unless Perfect Guard protected vs. Magic???
Scias (BoF4) vs Lamington (Disgaea)
Brahms (VPs) vs Profound Darkness (PS4)
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4)

Heavy:

Teepo (BoF3) vs Stahn Aileron (ToD): No contest.
Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2): I guess he isn't one-rounded?
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC): Laike is all about powerful evadable stuff.
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4)

Middle:

Justin (G1) vs Anna Zirski (PS2)
Lutz (AtLC) vs FuSoYa (FF4): No silence immunity. Tough luck.
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4): Gets him eventually.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9): FF9 elements at work.

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2): Fear?
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC): VP2 form can work it.
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE): No. Idea.
Jacques (S3) vs Leon Geeste (SO2): Pathetic, Leon.

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 11:32:24 PM »
FuSoYa can immune silence via the Rune Ring.
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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2012, 11:59:31 PM »
Does not matter. Hero armor immunes status and ISd. Luntz smacks fuso around until a double and finishes with fatal dagger.

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Re: Redoing an old season- RPGDL season 9
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 12:43:18 AM »
Godlike:
Songi (LoL1) vs Zio (PS4) - I guess.

Heavy:

Alena (DQ4) vs Mazus (S2) - Burn.
Laike (Lunar:SSSC) vs Harle (CC) - Antivote Laike?  Don't mind if I do.
Haschel (LoD) vs Chaz Ashley (PS4) - Yep.

Middle:
Lutz (AtLC) vs FuSoYa (FF4) - I guess.
Nash Rumack (Lunar:SSSC) vs Cray (BoF4) - Yep.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Vivi Ornitier (FF9) - dat FF9 equip cheese.

Light:

Bowser (SMRPG) vs Noel Chandler (SO2) - oh man
Lezard Valeth (VPs) vs Guile (CC) - What's a VP2 can you eat it.
Liz (WA2) vs Keele Ziebel (ToE) - Gotta go with "Keele is just that bad" sure