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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2013, 01:04:00 AM »
Neph: Swap Sasarai & Lilka and you should be good.  (Lilka is fine in Heroes, Sasarai is probably too good for it though there are interps that have him merely be at the high end of the range I suppose.)  Cait Sith...  actually, he's kind of problematic as well.  super ran a Proving Grounds topic awhile back for FF7 Heavy PCs, and Cait had a winning record to everyone there, so he's actually probably a High Heavy himself.  http://www.rpgdl.com/forums/index.php/topic,6287.0.html

In general: If you edit your nominations, please make a post saying so, going to round up the auto-invites now.

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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2013, 01:10:26 AM »
Edited.

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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2013, 04:49:50 AM »
Heroes:
Menardi (Golden Sun)
Adachi (Persona 4)
Alifna (Grandia 3)
Arngrim (VPs)

Demigods:
Kuja (FF9)
Yaridovich (SMRPG)
Fei (Xenogears)
Scias (BoF 4)

Divinities:
Arceus (Pokemon Gen 4)
Viola (Radiant Historia)

Commentary on other noms.

Reiska: Your divinity picks seem a little weak. They're in that same mid godlike quagmire as rika and terra. They're probably legal picks though.
CK: I'm not a legend of dragoon player, but rose's heavy record is pretty impressive. 3-2 and both losses to some of the division's best (nina 4 and suicune) suggest to me she's too much for hero divison
Super: When I see FF4 characters I vote on the DS remake, and judging by how FF4 characters perform in these recent board tourneys, some other voters do the same. FF4DS Edge would probably chop through hero division pretty easily. He's not getting outslugged even by magic damage and even status is a dicey proposition - he blocks one of the big ones and OHKOs and immediate doubleturns come pretty easily to him. Edge needs a restriction to older forms if he's going to be let in.

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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2013, 07:05:39 AM »
Rose wouldn't beat Maya now though, and the other people she beat were Middle powered though. Even giving Rose starting SP, she's okay for this division.
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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 12:44:06 AM »
Yeah, Rose I was taken aback by at first since she's technically a former Godlike, but I think that's a case where in-game and casual reactions make her seem better than she ends up in the DL.  She isn't THAT fast, and she's fairly frail, and she normally wins on turn 2 (be it by ID or beatdown).  There's definitely OHKOs / faster 2HKOs / status for her to fear.  Giving her SP basically makes her Lazlo, she spams that ID on turn 1 but her beatdown is a bit less impressive.  (She's better vs. opposing status, at least.)

That said, neither Rose nor Edge ended up getting in anyway, so oh well.

Since people like to watch the noms get rolled up, but I always found that a tad inefficient (especially with a smaller set where hitting dupes would happen all the time), the results from Python are here.  Here's the spreadsheet I made before hand of positions:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnWZpz-xP-nLdGp1THlvRFpIU1JfUmJvUmNna19oYlE&usp=sharing

Here's the rolls.  Pretty self-explanatory, just shuffle everything up and take the duelers who got in, then add the auto-invites (who have +100 to their spreadsheet position to make 'em obvious), then re-shuffle to get the specific match-ups.  Feel free to point out any mistakes I made (or SEE INTO THE FUTURE if you're bored and want to know the week 2 matches early):

>>> import random
>>> heroes = range(1, 45)
>>> random.shuffle(heroes)
>>> heroesin = heroes[:26]
>>> heroesin = heroesin + range(102,108)
>>> random.shuffle(heroesin)
>>>
>>> heroesin
[17, 42, 25, 14, 19, 5, 22, 103, 37, 105, 31, 21, 18, 104, 29, 35, 38, 12, 39, 9, 102, 11, 3, 32, 30, 107, 1, 106, 43, 27, 26, 15]
>>> demigods = range(1,40)
>>>
>>> random.shuffle(demigods)
>>> demigodsin = demigods[:24]
>>> demigodsin = demigodsin + range(102,110)
>>>
>>> random.shuffle(demigodsin)
>>> demigodsin
[38, 30, 32, 15, 108, 7, 24, 33, 26, 22, 17, 23, 105, 3, 8, 106, 20, 19, 109, 37, 13, 4, 104, 6, 103, 9, 102, 2, 29, 10, 34, 107]
>>>
>>> divinities = range(1,16)
>>> random.shuffle(divinities)
>>> divinitiesin = divinities[:10]
>>>
>>> divinitiesin = divinitiesin + range(102,108)
>>> random.shuffle(divinitiesin)
>>> divinitiesin
[103, 102, 2, 7, 11, 104, 9, 14, 107, 1, 106, 4, 10, 15, 105, 5]
« Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 01:01:48 AM by SnowFire »

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Re: Shift Tourney: Nominations
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 09:22:00 PM »
I'd definitely put Rose-with-starting-SP into Demigods, she's a fair bit better than Lazlo who is already kinda borderline (she has much better status protection, and fear as a backup status if ID is blocked, which I think trumps any durability difference). That said she's not exactly an amazing one, and since most people vote without SP, yeah, Heroes it is in this day and age.

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