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Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« on: September 03, 2013, 08:53:16 PM »
1. Chrom: 41-27
2. Poo: 22-31
3. Aika: 22-31 (Hatbot tiebreak)

Last week's results.  Poo and Aika both struggled to do well, while Chrom had some success. This week is Chrono Trigger, the newly ranked Mana Khemia 2, and FFT Generics.

Samurai- Defensive tricks and okay offense. Does it make up for really bad base stats?
Pepperoni- Goes good with cheese? I know nothing.
Crono- Breakneck speed backed up by some seriously unimpressive damage. Wishes his damage was just slightly better.



Crono vs Carlie
Crono vs Tosh
Crono vs Kornell
Crono vs Beowulf
Crono vs Rutee
Crono vs Fuse
Crono vs  Dekar
Crono vs Landis
Crono vs Adray
Crono vs Chrom
Crono vs Poo
Crono vs Aika


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie
Samurai vs Tosh
Samurai vs Kornell
Samurai vs Beowulf
Samurai vs Rutee
Samurai vs Fuse
Samurai vs  Dekar
Samurai vs Landis
Samurai vs Adray
Samurai vs Chrom
Samurai vs Poo
Samurai vs Aika

Pepperoni vs Carlie
Pepperoni vs Tosh
Pepperoni vs Kornell
Pepperoni vs Beowulf
Pepperoni vs Rutee
Pepperoni vs Fuse
Pepperoni vs  Dekar
Pepperoni vs Landis
Pepperoni vs Adray
Pepperoni vs Chrom
Pepperoni vs Poo
Pepperoni vs Aika
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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 10:08:44 PM »
Crono vs Carlie- Deeper MP reserves.
Crono vs Tosh- Go first, immune monji slash. should be enough.
Crono vs Kornell- Durable boss.
Crono vs Beowulf- Aegis+White Robe fucks Crono's offense up bad. Drain should keep Beo afloat for long enough otherwise.
Crono vs Rutee- Healing.
Crono vs Fuse- Deeper resources+ID.
Crono vs  Dekar- I don't think Dekar is 3HKOed by Crono, which is match.
Crono vs Landis
Crono vs Adray-Elven Cloak. Good grief Crono.
Crono vsAika- I think she just runs Crono out of MP. Sad.


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie- Black Curse makes Samurai very sad.
Samurai vs Tosh- Monji slash fucks BG up to me.
Samurai vs Kornell- Maybe with Masamune allowed. I don't allow it as is though.
Samurai vs Beowulf- Silence.
Samurai vs Rutee- Blocking the first hit of a ToD move tended to fuck you up bad. Rutee could always go with Tidal wave, but that will have trouble breaking Samurai's healing/defensive game.
Samurai vs Fuse- Strong kneejerk.
Samurai vs  Dekar- Multi sword gets around Blade Grasp. Don't think Samurai has time to inflict DS/confuse.
Samurai vs Landis- Blocks the dangerous status, outslugs otherwise.
Samurai vs Adray- Assumine he had some kind of status here.
Samurai vs Aika- Muramasa status carries the day.

Samurai: 3-7
Crono: 2-8
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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 10:48:26 PM »
Crono vs Carlie - Probably.
Crono vs Tosh - Eh, I'll buy Crono having immunity to Monji Slash here.  Even if not he surely 2HKOs Tosh of the 0.64 mdur regardless.
Crono vs Kornell - Probably. Okay, Crono 4HKOs here while being 3HKO'd, but he manages to get the turn split he needs.  Support credit, though... hm... *mathmathmath* does that put him over to me?  Eh likely not, although more generous assessments of Kornell's HP could tilt this.
Crono vs Beowulf
Crono vs Rutee
Crono vs Fuse
Crono vs Dekar - Interesting.  Some interps probably give this to Crono I assume but I doubt the ones I use do.
Crono vs Chrom - Speed.
Crono vs Poo - sure


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie - Sure.
Samurai vs Tosh - Murder
Samurai vs Kornell
Samurai vs Beowulf
Samurai vs Rutee - Bloody Rose gets around Blade Grasp just fine.
Samurai vs Fuse
Samurai vs Dekar - Multi Sword swinging twice is probably enough given that Dekar can buff offense and Blade Grasp can fail.  It takes way too long for any relevent status to land, and the damage attached to Draw Out is a 4HKO *at best* if we assume a setup that hampers Samurai's durability, so no hype to be had for that.  Samurai doesn't even have much of a speed split without Slow, so there's not really much double hype to be had short of that landing (hahaha 20% status accuracy NO), and that lasts no where near long enough nor is it likely to let him score a kill, Samurai physical isn't really killing any faster than Draw Out is, go Dekar HP/Metal Mail.  Granted differing temp views probably more or less hose Dekar but whatever.
Samurai vs Chrom - Brave Sword kind of screws with Blade Grasp going into full mockery mode and Samurai speed is poor enough that Chrom may double.  Will hold off.
Samurai vs Poo - Kiyomori and Murasame let her do this much, at least.  Poo resources are... well... shit.

Pepperoni vs Carlie - I s'pose.
Pepperoni vs Tosh - Monji Slash
Pepperoni vs Kornell - Pepperoni is fairly slow if he goes for actual offense.  He can get -15% WT armor but that sinks his damage, and meanwhile Kornell probably 3HKOs anyways.
Pepperoni vs Beowulf - All of the status
Pepperoni vs Rutee - Sure.
Pepperoni vs Fuse
Pepperoni vs Dekar - Okay, so Pepperoni has a weapon with 25% ID attached, thinking spamming basic physicals saves him here as Dekar is only killing by turn 3 (Berserker doesn't help this) and MK2 physicals are pretty fast compared to what actually gets used.  Heck he can probably afford the -15% WT reduction armor, not like he's winning this with skills so the Earth boosting doesn't really matter.
Pepperoni vs Chrom - I think hecan handle this.
Pepperoni vs Poo - Trusting Dhyer on this.

5-4.  At least he has low-odds ID to go with that durability, being unable to equip GCR sucks though.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2013, 08:03:01 PM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2013, 12:29:10 AM »
Crono vs Carlie - Crono and Heavy healers. That's not panning out.
Crono vs Tosh - Stop is quite analogous to paralysis. Don't see Crono immuning Monji Slash himself (debuffs and status I consider different things), but Tosh's magic durability is so damned bad it doesn't -matter-, since Crono just 2HKOs straight even if his damage gets -nearly halved- (Tosh is like 65% PC HP to magic. SERIOUSLY).
Crono vs Kornell - Not so sure here. Kornell's below average speed and shouldn't 2HKO Crono (don't think his good damage is magical anyway, Crono is decently durable to physicals), so four Luminaires away. I certainly don't see Kornell as better than 1.5x PC HP.
Crono vs Beowulf Kadmus - No stone immunity in Chrono Trigger, folks, and Crono MDef should make that turn one for sure (it probably is against average anyhow).
Crono vs Rutee Katrea - Crono doesn't 2HKO Rutee even with Luminaire. He can't possibly keep a heal-lock, and Rutee resources are nothing short of gross.
Crono vs Fuse - Crono and Heavy-level healing, never something he likes.
Crono vs  Dekar - My kneejerk is roughly the same as super: Crono misses the 3HKO on Dekar, so any attempt to blitz just gets Healing Mail'd away.
Crono vs Landis - Forgoes Swallow and just outslugs with Rainbow'd Confuse.
Crono vs Adray Lasbard - Good news: Crono might overwhelm the healing with Rainbow Confuse! Bad news: Adray's MP damage and Crono's damned resource issues.
Crono vs Chrom - Doesn't 2HKO, but doesn't have to.
Crono vs Poo - Wow, this is vaguely sad. Poo isn't much slower than Crono, so Starstorm+healing gets him through.

4-7. This pool exploits Crono's issues like a slavedriver. The speed is pretty cool, so is the status immunity draw, but the elemental reliance and resource issues -suck-. His speed can't even properly pressure healers because he gets four shots of his averagish damage to work with and then fails forever. And he can't hit both defenses equally well without giving up the speed game either, which matters far more than it should off his resource pool.

Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie - Samurai can annoy Carlie in a lot of ways, but she's pretty much guaranteed to land a Black Curse early. From there, she could even attempt a straight race alternating damage and healing and win out.
Samurai vs Tosh - Good lord.
Samurai vs Kornell - Samurai doesn't really have the punch for this.
Samurai vs Beowulf Kadmus - Way too much status.
Samurai vs Rutee Katrea - White Robe hampers Rutee offense considerably, but I don't see Blade Grasp picking up Bloody Rose (physical skills tend not to). Otherwise, Samurai just takes too long to kill.
Samurai vs Fuse - Sure.
Samurai vs  Dekar - Two-hit weapon, nevermind the bollocks. Samurai would only be able to capitalize on the inaccurate status if half the attacks weren't getting through as a rule of thumb.
Samurai vs Landis - Blade Grasp.
Samurai vs Adray Lasbard - Dear god, Freeze.
Samurai vs Chrom - Blade Grasp.
Samurai vs Poo - Kiyomori => Murasame answers Starstorm, quite likely.

3-8. Not really very good, but so goddamn weird. The variety pans out to someone whose matches are hard to vote on in spite of none of the options separately being all that great. Strange little dueller.

Pepperoncino vs Carlie - I suppose even Black Curse doesn't tilt this, Pepperoni gets one skill that IDs turn two and Carlie offense is problematic.
Pepperoncino vs Tosh - Blitzes pretty brutally. He can status for all he cares, but he's perfectly capable of just outslugging straight off.
Pepperoncino vs Kornell - Think he 3HKOs Pepperoni anyway. ID, obviously, is out.
Pepperoncino vs Beowulf Kadmus - Status to the rescue. Too bad he doesn't get Earth Clothes.
Pepperoncino vs Rutee Katrea - ID should manage this, but  - WAIT, he probably gets Water immunity. NEVERMIND, Pepperoni can't possibly lose.
Pepperoni vs Fuse - nope.avi. Healing and ID immunity really manhandle Pepperoni.
Pepperoncino vs  Dekar - Yeah yeah instant death.
Pepperoncino vs Landis - Straight slugging here, physical 2HKO is something Landis rarely has an answer to.
Pepperoncino vs Adray Lasbard - MP damage, ID immunity, healing, the works.
Pepperoncino vs Chrom - Eh, possibly. Chrom could try to outheal the damage, but then he has to deal with the ID attached to it. It's not fun.
Pepperoncino vs Poo - Should have enough shots of instant death.

6-5. Wow, he performed weirdly well compared to this sorry competition. Resource problems and recharge/speed aside, durability, MK2 equips, 2HKOing and having ID on your damage does get you places. ID-immune healers and people who wall Earth give him fits, but this pool was heavy on neither (and the ones that could mitigate his game rightfully handed him his ass on a platter).
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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2013, 02:43:52 AM »
Crono vs Carlie: Carlie. Black curse.
Crono vs Tosh: Crono. Vigil Helm beats out Monji Slash? 2HKOs besides that.
Crono vs Kornell: Crono. I think he is durable and fast enough for this
Crono vs Beowulf: Beowulf. Without Thunder Beowulf has too much of an advantage.
Crono vs Rutee: Rutee. More healing than Crono has damage.
Crono vs  Dekar: Dekar. Healing and HP.
Crono vs Landis: Crono. Faster kill.
Crono vs Adray: Adray. Healing.
Crono vs Poo: Poo. Healing.
Crono vs Aika: Aika. Healing.


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie: Carlie. Black Curse.
Samurai vs Tosh: Tosh. Tosh can't whore out his physical but opening with Monji Slash screws Samurai.
Samurai vs Kornell: Kornell. Samurai healing isn't good enough.
Samurai vs Beowulf: Beowulf. Better at status.
Samurai vs Rutee: Samurai. Blade Grasp and healing.
Samurai vs  Dekar: Dekar apparently wins even with halved damage?
Samurai vs Landis: Samurai. Landis is physical.
Samurai vs Adray: Adray: Freeze?
Samurai vs Poo: Samurai.
Samurai vs Aika: Samurai. Physical heal locks and threat of crit and so on.

Pepperoni vs Carlie: Carlie. Unicorn castings kill Pepperoni before he gets off the ID or if he goes for damage she just heals it off.
Pepperoni vs Tosh: Tosh. Monji Slash opening screws Pepperoni.
Pepperoni vs Kornell: Pepperoni. Think his pdur and damage can do this.
Pepperoni vs Beowulf: Pepperoni. Status negation?
Pepperoni vs Rutee: Pepperoni. immune water.
Pepperoni vs  Dekar: Pepperoni. Faster.
Pepperoni vs Landis: Pepperoni. Physical tanking.
Pepperoni vs Adray: Adray. Healing and ID immunity.
Pepperoni vs Poo: Poo. Starstorm wins a race.
Pepperoni vs Aika: Pepperoni. ID weapon?
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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2013, 03:36:16 AM »
Crono vs Tosh
Crono vs Kornell
Crono vs Beowulf- Well, Crono gets a good first step with status immunity. But White Robe+Shield Evade+Drain+Shock? Makes Crono best damage like 750. Speed won't help enough.
Crono vs Rutee
Crono vs Fuse
Crono vs  Dekar
Crono vs Landis
Crono vs Adray
Crono vs Poo
Crono vs Aika

 Samurai vs Tosh
Samurai vs Kornell
Samurai vs Beowulf
Samurai vs Rutee- Given Blade Grasp's dramatic DL inflation, have no problem seeing all but the first hit of Bloody Rose getting around it. Think Rutee...barely avoid getting 2HKOed, although it may not matter
Samurai vs Fuse
Samurai vs  Dekar- Well, Dekar's second hit goes through. Slow...may be a thing, but that wears off. That problem is that even with slow, Samurai kills Dekar in 4 hits. Dekar will always have a chance to heal.
Samurai vs Landis
Samurai vs Adray - Ice Needles
Samurai vs Poo
Samurai vs Aika

Pepperoni vs Tosh
Pepperoni vs Kornell- Cloooose. Kornell may miss the 2HKO and Pepperoni may get it. But I think Kornell does barely get it, so...
Pepperoni vs Beowulf
Pepperoni vs Rutee
Pepperoni vs Fuse
Pepperoni vs  Dekar- Both 3HKO each other. But Pepperoni has ID is faster, and Counter gives him a 4th chance of ID putting him over the threshold.
Pepperoni vs Landis
Pepperoni vs Adray- Healing, blocks ID
Pepperoni vs Poo- Don't think Poo can deal with R Fairy Costume (Gives Pepperoni 126% Mdef and will basically null 25% of attacks. So Poo 4HKOs, which is turned into a 5HKO with Golden Wall...but not really, Poo only has 4 shots of damage). Pepperoni is going for an ID weapon, which needs 4 turns...but Cross-Counter means that he'll counter an attack
Pepperoni vs Aika

Pepperoni 5-5 (Can believe that Cross-Counter with that ID weapon clinched multiple ones. Doesn't deal with Heavies or healers with ID immunity)
Samurai 3-7
Crono 2-8
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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 02:17:05 PM »
Dhyer, is Ice Needle a battle skill for Adray? This is actually pretty importante.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 08:30:51 PM »
Yes, Ice Needles can be set as a battle skill, and used 3 times at 99 Fury (or more with Berserk).


Crono vs Carlie: Carlie against someone with finite resources and no status/OHKO offence tends to win.
Crono vs Kornell: Crono is durable enough not to be 2HKOed, and is much, much faster, so he should win this slugfest.
Crono vs Beowulf: Yeah, Crono's offence is too bad, here, and his MDef doesn't help so Drain will usually hit, and then Shock to kill.
Crono vs Fuse: Crono has a 3-2 here, so he can... kinda try to heal-lock? Spincut heal-locks before the doubleturns, but he'll need to spend considerably more resources otherwise. Fuse can pretty much just heal unless he's not pressured, at which point he attacks and any damage he does sticks.
Crono vs Dekar: Crono is just shy of always doubling, so does so after the first turn in effect. Dekar has 1.67/1.32 durability so Crono is very obviously going to try for a magic blitz here. Luminaire is a 4HKO. But going for this gives Dekar a healing IP. And I can't see any other way for Crono to win. Any attempts to not put on pressure lead to Dekar just 2HKOing him.
Crono vs Landis: Landis has a 4HKO against the somewhat durable Crono, and status is out. Well then.
Crono vs Adray: Adray absorbs lightning. He has about 78% pdur with this awful-def armour (but it's still SO3 defence, so it's not that bad). Crono 2HKOs this with Rainbow Confuse so I think he probably wants to go for that, since he's still faster. So heal-lock until a double, then kill, and as per previous Adray comments I see even Rainbow Crono doubling before running out of MP. More respect for Adray's speed would tilt this, though, since strictly speaking Adray just needs to wait for one shot of MP damage to dry out Crono. That said Adray's MP damage is kinda bad so I don't see this happening in time either... Crono just needs a 5-4. Though, come to think of it, Adray doesn't want to absorb lightning, as it will keep his defence higher and ward off any 2HKO. At that point I think he's probably safe... just heal in response to anything Crono does, and the MP reserves will win. Crono can only win by trying to chip with something free, but that doesn't heal-lock unless a double is upcoming (and even then, only with the Rainbow, so the doubles don't come often), and Adray can MP-damage in response. Okay, yeah. Adray does win, but lightning resistance isn't why!
Crono vs Chrom: Crono misses the double here, but he's still looking pretty good, I think? He does have a 4-3, and Luminaire is a 3HKO as usual... oh shit Chrom can heal. But... no, Crono pulls it out anyway, Luminaire does 48% to Chrom and Chrom can only heal 35%, so after two Luminaires with the 4-3 coming along, 2 more Luminaires will kill. There are a lot of ways for Chrom to win this, though; he's better off trying to attack and hoping for an Aether proc (although the healing won't be enough, it could let him two-round?), or he can dodge (53% chance that happens at least once), but I'm not really inclined to respect any of this. Maybe I feel like throwing Crono a bone in a field where he faced a ridiculous number of healers, I dunno.

Crono is so awful against healers. 3HKOing with a 3-2 is decent for heal-locks (not that he always 3-2's) in theory, but he doesn't have the resources to make it work. He'd kill for some sort of status.


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie: Samurai can stall with Murasame healing for a... long time against Carlie, who is below average damage while Murasame heals 38%. Carlie will of course Black Curse right away but Samurai doesn't give a shit, as SD3 stat downs don't affect healing I'm pretty sure, so only the defensive hit matters. Samurai is slower so will be muscled down, but with Kiyomori... nah, it's not worth it. Yeah, think Carlie has this, even if Black Curse's effect on her own damage is pretty modest (I don't recall).
Samurai vs Kornell: Oh gee, Samurai is faster? Ew. Kiyomori, start attacking? Don't think the healing is good enough here, Kornell hits a bit too hard. Think Samurai 4HKOs here, though, and isn't reducing Kornell that low... so yeah.
Samurai vs Beowulf: Uh yeah, some status or other.
Samurai vs Fuse: Slow just makes Fuse turtle until it wears off (which is quickly), FFT confuse not very scary (especially since Fuse will randomly Mindheal it away!), so only death sentence can win this fight. 10% status... yeah not happening here, since Samurai has to block two status effects so the HP/healing isn't that good.
Samurai vs Dekar: Seems pretty straightforward thanks to that two-hit sword, Samurai not that much faster and can't put a big dent in Dekar's HP, long fights just let Dekar build up IP over time and do nasty things like attack buffing. There is turn 5 status but slow or confuse don't win the fight for Samurai, really, so it's 10% + give Dekar two extra turns. Not feeling like hyping any of that.
Samurai vs Landis: Block freeze, and whatever from there.
Samurai vs Adray: Don't think samurai blocks freeze, so ICE NEEDLES wins this sigh. Samurai only 3HKOs, so his/her only shot is to status Adray while he heals up. Muramasa does put on a lot of pressure, which helps, but Adray can block ID so it's not a big bother for him... confuse bleh, as usual doesn't mean much. Slow then blitz is the best hope, but slow doesn't put that much pressure on. Probably Adray.
Samurai vs Chrom: Okay, unlike Dekar/Fuse/etc., Chrom has no real way to put this away short of Aethering some ridiculous number of times in a row, and his healing is far less good so Death Sentence probably does kick in.

Most of his/her matches give me headaches so I could be argued on some of these. I stopped trying to be terribly analytical past the first two really. Bunch of weird pressure/counterpressure fights.


Crono 3-5
Samurai 2-6

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 02:33:10 AM »
Dekar has a two-hit weapon? Seriously?
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2013, 02:35:07 AM »
Multi sword. It's his best DL weapon. I don't think it matters except against blade grasp.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2013, 02:41:12 AM »
It matters against Blade Grasp - a lot, in fact. Lemme edit my vote.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 03:01:05 AM »
Crono vs Carlie- Deeper MP reserves.
Crono vs Tosh- Go first, immune monji slash. should be enough.
Crono vs Kornell- Durable boss.
Crono vs Beowulf- Aegis+White Robe fucks Crono's offense up bad. Drain should keep Beo afloat for long enough otherwise.
Crono vs Rutee- Healing.
Crono vs Fuse- Deeper resources+ID.
Crono vs  Dekar- I don't think Dekar is 3HKOed by Crono, which is match.
Crono vs Landis
Crono vs Adray-Elven Cloak. Good grief Crono.
Crono vsAika- I think she just runs Crono out of MP. Sad.


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie- Black Curse makes Samurai very sad.
Samurai vs Tosh- Monji slash fucks BG up to me.
Samurai vs Kornell- Maybe with Masamune allowed. I don't allow it as is though.
Samurai vs Beowulf- Silence.
Samurai vs Rutee- Blocking the first hit of a ToD move tended to fuck you up bad. Rutee could always go with Tidal wave, but that will have trouble breaking Samurai's healing/defensive game.
Samurai vs Fuse- Strong kneejerk.
Samurai vs  Dekar- Multi sword gets around Blade Grasp. Don't think Samurai has time to inflict DS/confuse.
Samurai vs Landis- Blocks the dangerous status, outslugs otherwise.
Samurai vs Adray- Assumine he had some kind of status here.
Samurai vs Aika- Muramasa status carries the day.

Samurai: 3-7
Crono: 2-8

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Re: Proving Grounds Middle 2:Smile.dk time
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2013, 11:06:09 PM »
Crono vs Carlie
Crono vs Tosh
Crono vs Kornell
Crono vs Beowulf
Crono vs Rutee
Crono vs Fuse
Crono vs  Dekar
Crono vs Landis
Crono vs Adray
Crono vs Chrom
Crono vs Poo
Crono vs Aika


Samurai (FFT) vs Carlie
Samurai vs Tosh
Samurai vs Kornell
Samurai vs Beowulf
Samurai vs Rutee
Samurai vs Fuse
Samurai vs  Dekar
Samurai vs Landis
Samurai vs Adray
Samurai vs Chrom
Samurai vs Poo
Samurai vs Aika
[21:39] <+Mega_Mettaur> so Snow...
[21:39] <+Mega_Mettaur> Sonic Chaos
[21:39] <+Hello-NewAgeHipsterDojimaDee> That's -brilliant-.

[17:02] <+Tengu_Man> Raven is a better comic relief PC than A