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Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« on: March 04, 2016, 03:56:36 AM »
Last week (and a half) results:
Winner: Team Ragnarok
Loser: Team Perfect
Out: Team Ice

Pyro teams continue to steamroll. Matches for this week:

Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)

Someone gag them already:
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)

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Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)
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Re: Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2016, 04:42:59 AM »
Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Uh, this enemy team is insanely bad.  Necrosaro could theoretically outlast teams with 0 healing but his first form is insanely bad and enemy teams will always leave him for last.  Hect is slow & frail and Armageddon is slower.  So yeah, Eileen is the only character who can carry here, but I assume Copper Flesh doesn't do anything against status.  Anyway, if Eileen goes for damage, everyone murders Hect and Ronfar heals.  If Eileen makes Hect invincible, confuse Eileen...  (I'm not going to hype Necrosaro as smart enough to attack her)...  Hect gets 1 turn, and if she attacks Eileen, then the team never makes any progress.  If she does something herself, I don't think she has anything decisive enough to deal with Eileen turning traitor the next round and Earthquaking the team or something.  Ronfar keeps the team healed up after Hect & Eileen are dead and they start mowing through Necrosaro forms.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
This team is very mono-physical, but also very boss-heavy (even if hyping immunity for OB/FE bosses is a bit chancy), which kind of turns off Edgar.  Also I let Kornell have the Iron Fist actions so he's pretty badass and the team can surely take down Ronfar first before he gets an action.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Loki reks with MT physicals, Georg cleans up any survivors.  Suiko5 arguably resitss some of Edgar's nonsense anyway - probably not Air Anchor but dealing with Georg is the least of the problems here.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)
super behind the enemy team selection with all the OB hype.  Anyway I never know what to make of Beatrix scaling, but boss form isn't bad, especially if you're willing to hype the plot-esque HP-1 final attack upon defeat.  I think rushing down Ronfar should work though; Zelos healing possibly isn't even relevant, but even if it is, I don't think Edgar does enough damage before things come tumbling down anyway.

Someone gag them already:
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
This team doesn't really have status, so Copper Flesh spam actually works.  And Forest Dance is actually ST.  Fail.  If it was MT this might actually work.  As is, Eileen can go invincible than reliably spam out her 4 EQs...  except...  Decus nulls (nearly) all elements?  Well that's random, I guess Decus solos then or something.  BUT NECROSARO IMMUNES FIRE.  WTF.  Okay, Eileen goes invincible, Hect stat-busts Decus, Hect dies to 2x Precis turns, Eileen EQ spam wipes out Precis and forces Chu-Chu to spam healing on herself and possibly eventually kills her anyway but is then worthless vs. Decus, then stat-busted Decus & Necrosaro have a slap-fight with 10HKO physicals.  Except Necrosaro eventually evolves to have non-sucky damage.  Sheesh.  I guess if you see Chu-Chu as more durable / Eileen's damage as worse, Chu-Chu might survive and somehow contribute to Decus, but eh.
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)
These three are not close.  Decus isn't soloing.

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Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
The only way this team does anything is if Lexis gets chipped into some incredible IP, which is hard in a team-fight since I'd enforce it coming out on turn 2 at hte earliest.  Hojo1 is trash, Bowman is nothing special.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)
And the team loses even harder here.

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Re: Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2016, 04:58:21 AM »
Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos) - Carnage Anthem + Georg physical downs Ronfar and severely injures the other two, at which point it seems like the best bet for Team Ladies Men would be to Noiseblaster Georg and hope a confused Georg physical (which could be directed at himself...) + Zelos's quarter-average damage attack magic can kill him.

Someone gag them already:
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos) - Explode would make this almost worth thinking about... if it weren't SO2 attack magic and if Dragon Orb wasn't Ice.

I wanna be the next Dr. Wily
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos) - um

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Re: Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 07:00:06 PM »
Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Eileen's opening MT barrage is hard to recover from... Ronfar can heal it off.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): I'm thinking Edgar doesn't get a turn to disable Fogel. Not sure what Lundgren contributes, if anything.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos): Georg and Loki team up to do MT damage and kill someone (Ronfar?): At that point the jig is up surely...
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT): the girls do ugly and mean things before the guys get turns.

Someone gag them already:
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Uh... Copper Flesh is a big problem here?
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): Precis and Chu-Chu aren't good enough to play in this fight.
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos): Or this one.
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT): And... I think they just overwhelm Decus while the others die on the side.

I wanna be the next Dr. Wily
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Bowman probably has EQ resistance... Hojo has status but he has form issues and is outclassed in a fight by Necrosaro. I'm thinking Eileen + Necro are too much EQ + cleanup.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): Kornell and Fogel mess up Bowman and they don't recover?
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos) They mess up Lexis and Loki is in the clear to smash.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT): They go first so they smash them to bits?
« Last Edit: March 06, 2016, 02:32:02 AM by Pyro »

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Re: Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 11:04:09 PM »
Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Not sure where this "Ronfar is really slow" thing is coming from, he's #3 in speed! Below average but surely not by as much as Psaro. Anyway, yeah, he heals off Eileena's opening stuff, Noiseblaster happens. I feel like the team is probably good enough to handle Psaro from there, but could be argued that one of Psaro's later forms can cut through both Ronfar and the rest of the team, since I don't know Zelos well. EDIT: Oops, Hect can block confuse. So she'll get a turn and freeze someone, or nuke someone, and this team feels like they're in a lot of trouble.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): At worst, Fogel forces Ronfar to heal with his first turn, Kornell goes after Ronfar. Kornell + Lundgren then kill Ronfar, and I don't think the enemy team is winning a slugfest from there, even if Fogel is confused. Best-case scenario has Fogel blitz out Edgar first turn.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos): Yeaaah no.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT): Probably. This team has quite a bit of confuse blocking.

Someone gag them already:
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Psaro either immunes or resists fire, and Copper Flesh protects Hect, who can then stop someone on the other team... Precis? Or blow someone up. Whatever. This team can't deal with
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): Decus will get off something here, might even kill Lundgren, and hurt Fogel. But only one something, and then Fogel can cruise.
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos): Oh my, Dragon Orb isn't very nice here.
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT): Yeah sure. Reis even has ice breaths!

I wanna be the next Dr. Wily
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1): Again, the team gets off its bullshit.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB): I'm not sure who's even supposed to anchor the other team here, I guess Lexis...?
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)

This set of teams (left-side) feels quite weak!
« Last Edit: March 06, 2016, 02:57:52 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Heavy Team Tourney (G Group)
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2016, 03:50:24 AM »
Going to vote on PC Beatrix since boss Beatrix is an overpowered monster with OHKO Shock and insane speed.

Ladies men:
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)  Sure.
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)
Edgar (FF6), Zelos (ToS), Ronfar (Lunar 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)
  PC Beatrix has no status protection.  She does have OHKO Holy which works well enough to blow up Edgar.  Even if Ronfar survives to revive Edgar, Beatrix has enough MP for a second Holy and Ronfar won't survive the followup gangbeating.

Someone gag them already:
Decus has Cure All but it only available at low HP and restores maybe 2000 HP.  Not much above 1% for himself, maybe 3-5% on average HP allies.  So it doesn't matter; I just like obscure trivia.

Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)  Dragon Orb
Decus (SO2), Precis (SO2), Chu-chu (XG) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)  Blow up Chu-chu with Holy.  Cura slows down any offense Decus and Precis can mount.  Tifa nulling fire adds insult to injury.

I wanna be the next Dr. Wily
This team has no synergy whatsoever.  Bowman lacks anything that's close to reliable MT.  Bravery's defense buff doesn't transfer across Hoo's forms.  Stronger and Rally are the least impressive healing and revival spells in Lufia 2.  Trainwreck incoming.

Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Necrosaro (DW4), Hect (G3), Eileen (S1)
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Kornell (G3), Lundgen (FE7), Fogel (OB)  They're killing someone on the first round and it snowballs from there.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Loki (VP), Georg (Suikos)  Lay smackdown.  If Hojo is still living, he's not soloing both.
Hojo (FF7), Bowman (SO2), Lexis (Lufia 2) vs. Beatrix (FF9), Fenril (OB), Tifa (FF7), Reis (FFT)  Outslug with Beatrix healing off damage.  Hojo's Combo is a hilarious tool since there are too many statuses to guard; I don't see him getting enough turns to put the entire team to sleep (assuming confuse blockers on the girls).
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 03:37:11 AM by DragonKnight Zero »