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DragonKnight Zero

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Halloween battle: second story
« on: November 15, 2018, 08:51:25 AM »
First round was a one-sided stomp for all the winners.  What will round 2 bring?

Winners bracket -

Robots: Asgard (WA3?), Tio with option of Tight Robe (Grandia2), Zero (MMX: CM)
vs
Witches: Lulu (FFX), Thage (EP), Arche (ToP)

Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
vs
Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

Losers bracket: Lose here and get sent home

Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
vs
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga)

Any battle with werecreatures will be held at night.

Demons: Beatrice (WA3), prinny Kurtis (Disgaea), Laharl (Disgaea)
vs
Puppeteers: Elize (ToX), Gepetto with Spikes and Mind's Eye (SH2), Mel with Lightning Rune (Suiko3)

short form

Robots vs Witches
Ghosts vs Pirates
Werecreatures vs Vampires
Demons vs Puppeteers

Bonus: Ninjas vs Pirates, does it ever end?

  A longtime staple rivalry of the internet while mostly supplanted by other forms of seeking attention, can still provide hours of procrastination for determined adolescents and teens across the globe.  Anyhow, ninjas have recruited another body to issue a challenge to the pirate team.  This is a friendly sparring match.  With Edge occupied and Bahamut to keep him in line if it comes to that, there's no high stakes consequences such as ninjas taking over pirates spot in the tourney if they win.  That would be silly.  Anyways, the outcome?

- Ninjas  Frank (SH3), Ninja (FFT), Suzu (ToP)
- Pirates  (see above: Rufus, Pirate, Aika)
- Edge  Interferes anyways
- Piastol  Edge tries to interfere but Piastol keeps him in line, with or without help from Rydia and Bahamut

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 08:26:45 PM »
Robots: Asgard (WA3?), Tio with option of Tight Robe (Grandia2), Zero (MMX: CM)
vs
Witches: Lulu (FFX), Thage (EP), Arche (ToP)

Witches can't really deal with Tight Robe.  Even if Thage does have something resembling physical damage here, she almost certainly doesn't get a turn.

Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
vs
Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

Abstain.

Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
vs
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga)

Yeah Werecreatures don't... really have a fast enough start.

Demons: Beatrice (WA3), prinny Kurtis (Disgaea), Laharl (Disgaea)
vs
Puppeteers: Elize (ToX), Gepetto with Spikes and Mind's Eye (SH2), Mel with Lightning Rune (Suiko3)

Abstain.

Bonus: Ninjas vs Pirates

Probably Pirates despite my not really knowing Rufus/Aika?  Frank and Suzu are kind of bad.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2018, 10:17:04 PM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 11:10:21 PM »
Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

Aika has to put up Delta Shield or die (and..  you could even argue it might not block Great Magic, but let's assume it does).  Wraith still has acceptable physical backup damage, I'd have to think that Auron Armor BReak + Wraith & Pamela physical-typed damage should be able to take out somebody?  Preferably Pirate, but the frail Aika as a backup.  Auron resists stone, Pamela & Wraith immune it, so Rufus is just shooting damage here.  Best case scenario for Pirates, Rufus + Pirate kill Wraith, but that seems a stretch and probably requires some YOLO 2axe setup for Pirate that gets him killed before he takes a turn.  If the Ghosts settle for killing Aika AND Wraith dies turn 1 AND you see Rufus as able to kill Pamela, they can win, but yeah.


Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga)
Seems like Curvy Hilda should live to her turn?  Kevin has good damage but not sure if it's THAT good, and everybody else isn't great on turn 1.  Probably vamps?
EDIT: Sure, vamps.

Don't know Demons or Disgaea well enough for the other match.

Pirates in the bonus, they're flat better than the Ninjas. 
http://www.rpgdl.com/tournament/matchdetail.php?week=243&match=bonus1
That's who should have won before, FWIW!  (but didn't)
« Last Edit: November 21, 2018, 07:32:46 PM by SnowFire »

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 12:24:23 AM »
Robots: Asgard (WA3?), Tio with option of Tight Robe (Grandia2), Zero (MMX: CM)
vs
Witches: Lulu (FFX), Thage (EP), Arche (ToP)

One defensive trick practically spoils all the opponents part 1

Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
vs
Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

One defensive trick practically spoils all the opponents part 2

Losers bracket: Lose here and get sent home

Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
vs
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga)

Any battle with werecreatures will be held at night.

Abstaining here for now. Likely Vampires, for all that I have little respect for Hilda's ID which is like turn 3 to me.

Demons: Beatrice (WA3), prinny Kurtis (Disgaea), Laharl (Disgaea)
vs
Puppeteers: Elize (ToX), Gepetto with Spikes and Mind's Eye (SH2), Mel with Lightning Rune (Suiko3)

Pirates in the Bonus
...into the nightfall.

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 04:21:21 AM »
Winners bracket -

Robots: Asgard (WA3?), Tio with option of Tight Robe (Grandia2), Zero (MMX: CM)
vs
Witches: Lulu (FFX), Thage (EP), Arche (ToP)

Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
vs
Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

Losers bracket: Lose here and get sent home

Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
vs
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga): Status/ID?

Any battle with werecreatures will be held at night.

Demons: Beatrice (WA3), prinny Kurtis (Disgaea), Laharl (Disgaea)
vs
Puppeteers: Elize (ToX), Gepetto with Spikes and Mind's Eye (SH2), Mel with Lightning Rune (Suiko3):

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 01:33:30 PM »
Science vs Magic:
Robots

Disney’s Pirates of the Caribbean:
Ghosts

Twilight The Masquerade:
Vampires

Bride of Chucky:
Demons

Meme Bonus:
The team with the better meme! (Pirates)

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 12:14:42 AM »
Robots vs Witches

Asgard ID and magic immune Tio are a bit too much for the witches to deal with I think.  When your good damage is magical and an opponent is immune, that's bad news.

Ghosts vs Pirates

Good news for pirates: Pamela's entire skillset is magical so Delta Shield shuts her down. (except her physical but that's weak)  So ghosts don't have enough oomph to take out Aika in one round.  For the sake of discussion, let's charitably assume pirates are able to take out Wraith.  Auron Power Breaking Pirate gimps his damage but Auron is a slug.  So two rounds of attacking from Rufus and Pirate.  Aika may be still alive but hurting.  What now?  Auron's going to get a turn soon if he hasn't already.  Pirates still have a threatening limit phase to endure when challenging Auron and they still have Pamela to deal with who can do stuff once Aika falls.  Injured Auron will likely take her out.  Maybe not hosed right out the gate but I think Pirates lose the battle of attrition.

Werecreatures vs Vampires

Werecreatures are good at punching things hard.  Asellus has Glass Shield which counters anyone trying to punch her and the two Valentines have instant death moves.  For additional insult, instant death also lets them bypass Kevin's powerup when he takes damage as a werewolf.  Maybe arguable but I think this is Vampires' match.

Demons vs Puppeteers

Kneejerk.  Elize walls Nightmare's sleep effect for her team which I believe is enough of an advantage for the ensuing slugfest.  Disgaea demons have some MT violence but it's just direct damage so I doubt it.  Could be swayed on this one.

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Re: Halloween battle: second story
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2018, 03:22:19 PM »
Robots: Asgard (WA3?), Tio with option of Tight Robe (Grandia2), Zero (MMX: CM)
vs
Witches: Lulu (FFX), Thage (EP), Arche (ToP)

It's not that it's impossible for Witches here since Lu has a ID weapon and Thage can inflict Fear through physicals. They have lots of other problems in this fight though. Turn order is Tio > Arche => Asgard > Thage > Zero > Lu. So Tio does Whisper to the Stars to boost Asgard up the turn cue, he then uses MT ID. Arche and Thage immune it (since it is magic based) but Lu has no way to block it and dies. At this point, Witches are screwed. Arche and Thage can do something to Zero and prolong their survival but then Asgard and Tio get their 2nd turns and Asgard starts doing MT damage with Barrier Floods which the remaining two witches can't do much about. If they go after Asgard, Zero will get a turn and he will just shred one of them apart so they absolutely have to lock him down.

Ghosts: Pamela Ibis (MK), Wraith (VP), Auron (FFX)
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Pirates: Rufus (VP2?), Pirate (BD), Aika with Purity Shard (SoA)

Thanks to Snowfire for reminding me Wraith has a back up physical. Opening turn order is Auron > Aika > Wraith = Rufus > Pirate > Pamela I think? Auron is the slowest every turn thereafter.

Anyway, no one on Team Ghosts cares about Confuse and Pirates really need to stop magic or they will just get blown up. Auron opens by Power Breaking Pirate, and Aika opens with Delta shield. From there, Wraith physicals Aika, Rufus can Might Reinforce Pirate and attack, Pirate hits Wraith (shouldn't kill since Rufus is attacking with less AP and Pirate has been Power Broken), Pamela pokes Aika. On Auron's next turn, he activates Sentinel and now Pirates have to go through him since they don't have any MT/GT damage. Also, since they are all physical based (or partially physical from Rufus), he counters all of them. Aika has to keep stacking Delta Shield, and will probably due turn 2-3 from Wraith. At this point, even if they get rid of Auron, Pirates are screwed cause Wraith can definitely GM.

Even if they kill Wraith, Pirates are in a really bad spot since Pamela immunes most of their damage. It might actually be in the best interest of Ghosts to kill him first since then Pirates can't kill her and Pamela just OCVs.

Losers bracket:

Werecreatures: Rei (BoF3), Bob with Water Rune (Suiko2), Kevin (SD3)
vs
Vampires: Hilda Valentine (SH3), Joachim Valentine (SH2), Asellus (Saga)

Rei's the only one on his team who can resist ID. Against 2 other IDers, this is bad news. So Hilda and Joachim will gang up one someone with their ID. Asellus can Glass Shield stop the physicals and by Turn 2-3, it's going to be Rei versus the world. Also to make matters worse, Hilda can heal.

Demons: Beatrice (WA3), prinny Kurtis (Disgaea), Laharl (Disgaea)
vs
Puppeteers: Elize (ToX), Gepetto with Spikes and Mind's Eye (SH2), Mel with Lightning Rune (Suiko3)

Elize can guard Mel and herself from falling asleep. Anyway, if Kurtis and Laharl don't have multi-hit moves, they're in deep because Gepetto becomes nearly impossible to kill and going through Elize is an even worse option. Puppeteers likely off Bea quickly so Elize can swap to an offensive mode, and then just take out the other two.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2018, 03:24:30 PM by Tide »
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