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RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« on: March 15, 2020, 12:17:34 AM »
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Marino (Mega Man X Command Mission) vs Arceus (Pokémon)
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default)
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)
Celese Cher (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue)


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)
White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters)
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series)
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2020, 04:07:53 AM »
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Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Can't actually vote on this but this feels like Cid's match to lose on kneejerk

Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts) - Kneejerking Keith unless FF6 has storebought deathblockers (edit: it doesn't).  Keith is less slow than Edgar is, so I'm pretty sure Jiru will land its ID first.
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy) - I like Haishao, but Knight's going to survive the Mirror Stance arm hits just fine (electric resist makes the mirror stance attacks 0.11 PCHP to average, and Knight is nothing if not an absolute tank), and won't even take that much damage from Nereid Cyclone.  Furthermore, not sure if I let him have Miang as support here.  If Miang is there, Ramsus probably survives long enough for a third round of Mirror Stance, but otherwise, Knight probably takes him out through the open turns between when Haishao exits Mirror Stance and has to restart it.  A lot more one-sided than I expected.
Celes Cher (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue): Hiro goes first, gets off a Triple Sword, and then gets imped and beaten into submission.


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears) - I approve of this matchup.
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) - This one feels pretty clearcut to me.  Even giving Lucius the benefit of doubles, Tricia draws at least half-advantage (depending on whether you see him in the Priest category or the Pyremage/Dracosage category), is running into her high RES, cast-best (by a massive margin) accuracy, and Long Shot gives her an argument for being counter-free when attacking, whereas Lucius would be running into her counters.
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2020, 06:06:36 AM »
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TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis) - Really don't think TL has the damage for this.
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default) - Yeah Victoria is probably a wee bit too durable.
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics) - Yeah Cid doubleturns here.


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts) - Right, I keep forgetting SH1 actually had confuse blocking.  Even if FF6 did have storebought deathblockers, Keith would win the slugfest anyways.
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy) - Sure I guess.
Celes Cher (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue) - Imp.


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)
White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World) - Sure.
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears) - Can heal and that's probably enough.
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters) - mage vs. Trish
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II) - Nina 3HKOs but goes second and eats counters.  And she'll probably miss one hit out of three due to her poor accuracy since Serra has some evade.
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2020, 07:31:26 AM »
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Marino (Mega Man X Command Mission) vs Arceus (Pokémon): Equip an elemental weapon to bypass ghost typing, survive a hit, unleash Quicksilver ID spam.
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis): Have to imagine she has both the durability and the toys for this.
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default): Probably just has too much more durability.
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics): Doubleturns or OHKOs depending on setup.


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts): Yep, pretty clear. Ah well.
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana): Is this the "welcome to heavy" match? Feels that way. For all that Purim has a case to be a division higher...
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy): Yeah, Haishao being elementally reliant sinks him here. 100% hard no on Miang being present in the fight.
Celese Cher (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue): Either Imp or Berserk work here, yep.


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star): Karsh is a terror for healers generally.
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana): Lise just seems... pretty unimpressive in slugfests outside having silence? She needs 4 turns to kill average. That's not cutting it. Defence Up looks like it only buys her one turn (turns Rinoa from high 3HKO to high 4HKO).
White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World): Unstable Form for the healing boost is a good plan here (or WR might just overwhelm, she 2HKOs). White Rose... actually, doesn't just want to spam damage, she wants to spam low-odds status. Lightsword is actually a good opener for her since it brings her speed to only just under Paws'. From this point on, Paws needs to find a way to kill her before that 9% ID lands. Berserk via Meow is necessary (Paws base damage is bad and WR would just heal), but then... what? If he does anything but heal, the next ID is 23%, he can't afford to take too many of those. And it looks like he needs four turns devoted to offence? More because of evade, both LightSword and shields. That should make this WR's. (Yes, I know, WR's stat topic entry hypes her shield as near useless, but MysticSword ID fishing is a thing okay.)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III): Peco in MIDDLE? Sure okay. Freya's not great herself or anything, but have to imagine she can handle this, Reis' Wind puts away any chance she loses short of running out of resources and MP killing puts away Peco's own healing. Poison + regen could still help tilt things but with Freya's far superior speed and damage she surely should take it anyway.


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears): um
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters): See Nama/Random.
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series): FF3 Bard is Puny.
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II): See Random.
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2020, 01:01:06 PM »
Godlike

Marino (Mega Man X Command Mission) vs Arceus (Pokémon)
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default)
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)- It is indeed a Welcome to Heavy Match!
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)- hah, I forgot FF1 knight had that robust anti-elemental armor.
Celese Cher (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue)


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)- No vote.
White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)- So this slapfight might genuinely have been tipped by POIZN... except Chu-Chu has a blocker.
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters)
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series)
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2020, 11:13:04 AM »
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TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)- TL match where he can't blitz it down? Ugly.
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)- This is even uglier.


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)-ID.
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters)- Tricia vs a season of FE mages is going to be a slaughter.
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2020, 09:42:20 AM »

Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default)
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)

Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)
Edgar can pray for M. Block, but Deathblade Jiru has 3 hits anyway.
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)
Celes (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue)

Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
I'll go against the grain here.  Karsh runs out of elements in trying to enforce a heal lock here.
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)
Lise is a mage spoiler, yeah.


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series)
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2020, 03:32:44 PM »
Karsh is at worst the #4 damage-dealer in the game (higher if you allow Prism). If he can't reliably 2HKO someone who's below average physical durability I suggest changing what damage average you're using for CC, because that's kinda wack.

He does 421 damage normally and 827 on a killer turn, that combination heal-locks Jessica by any damage average used except perhaps the one both allows elements and doesn't factor in recharge time (I'm not mathing that out because I strongly disapprove of it anyway).

Just to be clear this is an advantage to Karsh rather than the whole cast; for instance, Steena (picked because she's listed in the middle of the damage average) does 259 + 682, which is not enough to heal-lock average, so I'm hardly giving Chrono Cross a systemic advantage here.


Also while it doesn't matter here (since Edgar's evade isn't high enough), but doesn't Deathblade Jiru only ID on its final hit? I could easily be wrong since it's been so many years since I've played SH1 and may just be remembering how status worked in SH2-3.
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2020, 05:22:58 PM »
Godlike

Marino (Mega Man X Command Mission) vs Arceus (Pokémon)
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default)
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)

Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI) vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy VI) vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue)


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross) vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII) vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)
White Rose (SaGa Frontier) vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX) vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters)
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series)
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword) vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2020, 08:38:41 PM »
White Mage (FF5) vs Purim: I got nothing.  Gets set on fire.  Or statuefied by Stone Saber.

Celes vs Hiro:  This is a coinflip for me as it comes down to whether Concussion Sword lands.  Any other approach sees Hiro eating status.  (flips coin, lands Hiro, votes Celes anyways because tiebreak for whichever dueler seems more interesting)

Rinoa vs. Riesz:  Rinoa does not like Power Dwon.  Still, one opening hit plus a few weaker ones wears down Riesz enough that a limit ought to be enough for a win.  (I'm using an average physical after Power Down as 12% but Rinoa has above average physicals so maybe 14-15%)
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Re: RPGDL 2020 Season 1, Week 2
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2020, 11:20:36 AM »
Godlike

Marino (Mega Man X Command Mission)- iii vs Arceus (Pokémon)
TimeLord (SaGa Frontier) vs Isolde Schelling (Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis)- iiiii
Killer (Shadow Hearts: From the New World) vs Victoria (Bravely Default)- iiiii
Lulu (Final Fantasy X) vs Cidolfas Orlandu (Final Fantasy Tactics)- iiiiii


Heavy

Edgar Roni Figaro (Final Fantasy VI)- i vs Keith Valentine (Shadow Hearts)- iiiiii
White Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Purim (Secret of Mana)- iiiiii
Haishao (Xenogears) vs Knight (Final Fantasy)- iiiiiii
Celese Cher (Final Fantasy VI)- iiiiiii vs Hiro (Lunar 2: Eternal Blue)


Middle

Karsh (Chrono Cross)- iiii vs Jessica Alkirk (Lunar: Silver Star)- i
Rinoa Heartlilly (Final Fantasy VIII)- iiiii vs Riesz (Trials of Mana)
White Rose (SaGa Frontier)- iiii vs Paws (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Freya Crescent (Final Fantasy IX)- iiiii vs Peco (Breath of Fire III)


Light

Evil Gaia (Grandia) vs Chu-Chu (Xenogears)- iiiii
Lucius (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword)- i vs Tricia (Soul Nomad & The World Eaters)- iiiii
Bard (Final Fantasy III) vs Soren (Fire Emblem Series)- iiii
Serra (Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword)- iiiiii vs Nina (Suikoden II)
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