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Futurama 2024 Week 3
« on: December 30, 2024, 01:45:52 AM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III)
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes)
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)


Data Mine

If you're preemptively opposed to any of these, be sure to note as such.  Otherwise, just indicate which ones you've played!

7th Saga
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
Etrian Odyssey Nexus
Eternal Poison
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Genso Shoujo Taisen (Fantasy Maiden Wars)
Justice League Heroes
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero
The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
Metal Slug Tactics
Metaphor Re:fantazio
Midnight Suns
Persona 3 Reload
Phantom Brave
Pokémon Scarlet/Violet
Pokémon Legend Arceus
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Romancing SaGa 2
SaGa Scarlet Grace
SaGa Emerald Beyond
Star Ocean: The Divine Force
Troubleshooter
Unicorn Overlord
Valkyria Chronicles 4
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Ys Seven
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
Ys IX: Monstrum Nox
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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2024, 02:54:18 AM »
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Please fasten your seatbelt and put your tray table in its upright position.  Welcome to Nibelheim Air Flight 80000 with service to Zenoira City.

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
With a 100 CP interp, Warlock just dies.  With a 50 CP interp, uh, spam Head Break, the "cancels charging spell" effect I guess?  At least if you see Warlock as "charging" the spell at start of turn and finishing it when he gets his turn, which would be a long charge time given his speed.  50 CP Estelle miiiiight win this anyway without nebulous charge interps, Pyro's stat topic has her at 106% HP and the highest killpoint in the S4 topic suggests Warlock's EQ deals 1200/1138 = 1.054 PCHP damage.

Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)
Merrin needs 3 dagger hits to win (doesn't even need a poison stack) and has a larger threat range and doubles. 
No Ladyblade: Merrin can just walk in and eat the Fire counterattack, and Sonya needs to pray for an Excalibur crit, but it's not turn 1 and might miss anyway.  Easy Merrin win.
With Ladyblade: Fire + Hexblade is 54 Echoes damage, which vs. a 48.1 killpoint = 1.12 PCHP damage = more than Merrin's 1.09 MDurability.  (The 3 HP cost isn't scary either, she'll have that much after only 2 dagger hits even ignoring regen.)  So...  Sonya can win...  but same problem as last week with Serenoa, this involves getting 2 hits against Merrin's great evade.  Hexblade does have 101 Hit at base, but Fire is only 80 Hit, so odds of both connecting aren't very consistent here.  I guess if Fire missed Sonya just goes for an Excalibur crit after all, but see above then.

Light

Eilie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)
Canopus conqueror of Light?

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7th Saga
Phantom Brave
Unicorn Overlord
Ys Seven


Partially played:
Romancing SaGa 2
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana


While I've played Ys Seven, it's a bit of an awkward DL fit.  Similar to Star Ocean 3, got some tough "Action RPG interp" issues there.  SO3 has really high playership so overcomes them, but Ys7 might not be that lucky.

No complaints on UO / 7S / PB.  Disclaimer that I played the PS2 PB and beats me how much, if at all, the later PB remake changed things.  But I imagine anyone nomming PB is doing it just for Ash anyway, basically a one-dueler rank.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2024, 03:02:03 AM by SnowFire »

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2024, 05:26:49 AM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy) - Kneejerking that Elvis isn't at up to the level of slugfesting Reicher requires.
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Alain goes first but no cav bonus here means he doesn't have the faintest argument of OHKOing, then proceeds to fare no better against short range immunity than Rudo did.
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier) - Strong kneejerk.

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF) - Goes first and OHKOs to me, but it doesn't seem like Throne's fight regardless of interps.
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) - Lobster proves inferior to birdland.

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV) - ITE OHKO.
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure) - Pass, requires remembering SO1
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia) - Sounds about right.

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV) - Surely.
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade) - Almaz can dodge counters with Summon Swordance (same damage as his default, just more expensive) but still only 3HKOs.  Lucius, meanwhile... also 3HKOs so whoever goes first here wins (I suppose one might consider Almaz's 30% staff weakness to be relevent, since Dis5 cares about equipped weapons for magic attacks, but I don't, tomes are distinct from staves so far as either series is concerned)... and while I think it's Almaz I'm not actually certain.  It doesn't help that Lucius has 12% evade against average accuracy and Almaz is well below (sub-Killia HIT, boy?  Good lord.) e: yeah I think expecting Almaz to hit 3/3 is a bit much considering.
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - Surely.

Stuff played for datamine:

7th Saga
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
Etrian Odyssey Nexus
Genso Shoujo Taisen (Fantasy Maiden Wars)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero
The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
Metaphor Re:fantazio
Phantom Brave
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Unicorn Overlord

Partially played:
Eternal Poison
Romancing SaGa 2
SaGa Emerald Beyond
Troubleshooter

Of the lot the only ones I'd object to are FMW (for the same reasons as SRW in general) and Phantom Brave (I'd just really rather not)
« Last Edit: January 05, 2025, 06:54:37 PM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2024, 05:41:43 AM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy): Pretty strong kneejerk that they're just different tiers of Godlike.
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III): Rubi's around 3.6 PC to me, Myria around 5.4. Rubicant's big problem is being weak to ice, so Myria can do 1.33, killing him in three hits. No way he outraces that. If he closes the cape she uses Sirocco instead doing just 0.5, so Myria needs five of those. Rubi thus gets four turns of physicals which do... yeah nowhere near enough.
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII): More flyin'. Pale Horse works for me, too.

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF): Throne's probably at or near the TB speed cap, and she can nuke well over half of Clarissa's HP with her opening turn, so I have to think she can pull it out from there. EDIT: Hmm, no, probably not that fast. Including Throne's speed boost in the speed average (at least for her) makes the mean 324 and the standard deviation 100, so she clocks in at +2.09, and I would generally take the SDs of Octopath 2 lower than advertised. But... that's less necessary now that the SD has gone from 58 to 100, honestly. If I double the normal SD to ~116, Throne still clocks in at around +1.8 which honestly feels fair, "way way faster than everyone else in this random system to the point where you'd definitely notice it" is often around there. And that's still faster than Clarissa to me.

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV): I think?
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia): Sounds right.

Light

Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together): Another rando S2 physical fighter against Canopus, surely meets the same fate.


Data Mine

I've played these:

Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
Unicorn Overlord

There's a few more I'm thinking about playing, certainly!
« Last Edit: December 30, 2024, 05:58:57 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2024, 06:00:39 AM »
And if 8PT didn't pick a random pc to go first in every random encounter (even against caits) that might actually be relevent.  But, alas, it does.  Nevermind that I'm not convinced the numerical speed increase kicks in first turn anyways.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2024, 02:51:45 PM »
Hmm I really thought faster PCs went first more often but I dunno for sure. Should be easy enough to test. Certainly I remember Throne's passive being the difference between "randoms are competent" and "randoms all die before doing anything" but that might just be the offence and then confirmation bias about the speed, though.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2024, 03:53:30 PM »
[EDIT]: whoops, forgot to vote.

Godlike

Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III) - Pretty clear-cut.  Myria's just on a whole other level.
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) - Alain has no real answer to Pale Horse.  Or Supernova.  Or Break.  or flying.
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier) - just looking at the durability numbers sold the entire story there.  It's already an interp call on whether or not Arm Bind can land on T260G.  It's a second interp call as to whether that'd stop enough meaningful parts of T260's kit.  It's a third one whether or not Ronin could manage to kill considering T260's absurd durabilities and very comprehensive status-blocking, and Intercept System being a fucker.

Heavy

Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes) - while I can't technically vote on CE, it's worth noting that by the numbers, Gae Bolg, on top of having absolute initiative and being ITE, hits for just short of 0.92 PCHP, while Sienna is listed in the topic as having 0.83 PDUR.

Middle

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison) - goes first, sets up Protect, outslugs with healing.  Or just lands Mini or Toad, EP statusblockers don't cover Transform.

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth) - basically a result of my interps of TB speed and using the non-overleveled stat set in the topic.  Karn on average will just barely miss 2HKO by a margin of 0.06 PCHP, and get 2HKO'd in return.


Data Mine

Played:
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
Etrian Odyssey Nexus
Eternal Poison
Unicorn Overlord

Started:
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Metaphor Re:fantazio
Star Ocean: The Divine Force
Troubleshooter

Opposed:
Metal Slug Tactics - MST is already incompatible with the DL format on multiple levels.  The biggest one simply being that you have randomized upgrades and skills, and given the game's roguelite nature, such factors are not readily quantifiable.  The game's heavy focus on positional strategy (movement, cover, support attacks) above other factors also frankly makes for a terrible DL translation.
Phantom Brave - so admittedly my only real objection here is the ring-out mechanics.  If you take those out I'm fine.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2025, 12:28:42 AM by 074 »
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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2024, 04:26:50 PM »
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III) - Yeah, I suspected Myria had Blizzard, this makes this ugly for Rubi.

Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road) - Boston goes first and immunes Strawman's damage! Too bad he's total bait to Falcon Swoop and fails to OHKO anyway.

Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison) - Alexei misses the OHKO on Red Mage even if they go last, so Froggies.
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure) - OKAY. Chrom and Ilia kill each other in about the same amount of hits. Their ranged options also deal around the same damage to each other. Ilia triggers counters, Chrom triggers evade, Ilia's ranged offense can't outheal Falchion, but her actual moves can... HOWEVER, Chrom has the counters, and he will outstall Ilia if she goes ranged, he has infinite Falchion uses, she doesn't have infinite MP. And if she goes melee, well, those counters are problematic whenever they hit. This said... I think Falchion counters + healing will eventually get him there, the healing undoes most of the damage of a single Ilia attack and he can get progress without having to go on the offensive himself, while Ilia... can't really say the same.

Eilie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - Eilie is kinda uh worse than Viktor in most relevant ways, can't imagine how she could fare any better than he did.


Data Mine

I've played:

7th Saga
Eternal Poison
Metal Slug Tactics (just on the beginning, but will get to it once I'm done with P3R)
Persona 3 Reload (currently on January, so nearly done)
Phantom Brave
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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2025, 02:38:07 AM »
Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)  - I can vote on this slapfight, which is really not very interesting at all and doesn't end until one side runs out of recovery.  Cecil hits harder.  Refusing to think about this overly much.

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2025, 09:03:14 PM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)- Kneejerk honestly
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III)
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)- No vote
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)- No vote

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)- No vote
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)- No vote
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes)- No vote
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)- Yeah, sure, seems legit.
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)- No vote
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)- I think?
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)- No vote
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)0 No vote
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)- Y'know what yeah, Lucius' evade is pretty modest but that's against average and Almaz's hit does look pretty bad.
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)- No vote


Data Mine

If you're preemptively opposed to any of these, be sure to note as such.  Otherwise, just indicate which ones you've played!

7th Saga
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth
Etrian Odyssey Nexus
Eternal Poison
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Genso Shoujo Taisen (Fantasy Maiden Wars)
Justice League Heroes
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero
The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
Metal Slug Tactics
Metaphor Re:fantazio
Midnight Suns
Persona 3 Reload
Phantom Brave
Pokémon Scarlet/Violet
Pokémon Legend Arceus
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Romancing SaGa 2
SaGa Scarlet Grace
SaGa Emerald Beyond
Star Ocean: The Divine Force
Troubleshooter
Unicorn Overlord
Valkyria Chronicles 4
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Ys Seven
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
Ys IX: Monstrum Nox
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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2025, 08:35:38 PM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III)
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes)
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison) - it has been way too long since I played Eternal Poison...
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)

Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)


Data Mine

7th Saga - Played, but not particularly excited by this cast
Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes - Half-played. Skillsets seem a little bland for the DL, though. Might be okay with a stat topic?
Eternal Poison - Played, but it has been so long since I thought about this game that I'd need to replay it to even remember how the system works...
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Played! Despite my best efforts I cannot find a mechanics guide for this game in English or Japanese though, so a stat topic is nigh-impossible.
Genso Shoujo Taisen (Fantasy Maiden Wars) - Played! Easy to stat topic!
The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero - Started, the cast seems fun
Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope - Played
Metal Slug Tactics - Played! I think a stat topic could work fine just using builds for skill options that are readily purchasable. The game is intended for multiple playthroughs and you accumulate ways of eliminating randomness over the course of multiple runs, by design. By the time you've unlocked all the characters, the skillsets start to look like a normal JRPG party.
Metaphor Re:fantazio - Played. This is extremely DL-friendly.
Persona 3 Reload - Not played, but throwing support at it anyway.
Phantom Brave - Played obviously~ I could put together a full-cast stat topic for this easily enough, even if only Ash would get nominated.
Pokémon Scarlet/Violet - Not played, actually. But modern Pokemon mechanics seem fun in the DL.
Pokémon Legend Arceus - Played. There's a lot of fun wrinkles in this particular pokemon game that make it an interesting Rank, including like... rankable Bosses.
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure - Played! Stat-topic-ing this could be difficult, but if enough people are interested, it's doable.
Romancing SaGa 2 - Played! I recently picked up the JP mechanics guide for the Remake too, so a stat topic is doable.
SaGa Scarlet Grace - Played and Stat-topic'd! I could probably clean it up for readability. Sadly the SGSG cast is less interesting than the RS2 cast in the DL due to how the battle system is more team-focused.
SaGa Emerald Beyond - Played (one route so far). Not likely to have enough mechanics data to stat topic yet, but it's got more potential than SGSG.
Star Ocean: The Divine Force - Played! Honestly though, this might be the biggest ARPG nightmare in the DL yet.
Troubleshooter - Not Played, but it's On The List!
Unicorn Overlord - Played, best DL option aside from Metaphor.
Valkyria Chronicles 4 - Played, but I doubt anyone is interested in this cast's DL performance...
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Played! Stat topic nightmare but a REALLY COOL CAST if it was doable.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - Played! Less interp-headaches than XB2, at least!
Ys Seven - Played! I like it as a DL cast and it feels like the least-terrible option for ranking such a high-profile JRPG series, but I dunno that the cast is all that interesting in the DL?
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - Not Finished yet, but same
Ys IX: Monstrum Nox - Not Finished yet, but same

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2025, 12:07:33 AM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III)
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes)
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)

Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)

Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)


Data Mine

Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
Pokémon Scarlet/Violet
Pokémon Legend Arceus
Unicorn Overlord
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2025, 12:35:04 AM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III) - Seems easy enough here
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier) - I'll admit this is a kneejerk.

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF) - I can technically vote but fuck if I can remember what Clarissa does at this point, it's been too long.
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes) - I'm only familiar with EO1U Highlander, who I do not think wins this. But this specifically says Nexus, so. :shrug:
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure) - Jo'ou's argument works for me
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia) - FE vs FE fights are refreshingly straightforward

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth) - I'm probably too down on PCs that go into the fusions in BoF1, tbh. But it's that or I start just letting Karn use Puka and that's counterproductive, so.
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together) - Bonk

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2025, 02:55:11 PM »
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Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III) Ice is nice
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII): Range damage is not Alain's thing.
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II) vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope)
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes)
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC) vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V) vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening) vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage) vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance) vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)

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Re: Futurama 2024 Week 3
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2025, 03:45:08 PM »
Godlike

Elvis (Wild ARMs 5) vs Reicher Wallace (Mana Khemia 2: Fall of Alchemy)- iiiiiii
Rubicante (Final Fanasy IV) vs Myria (Breath of Fire III)- iiiiiiii
Alain (Unicorn Overlord) vs Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)- iiiiiii
Ronin (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs T260G (SaGa Frontier)- iiiii

Heavy

Throné (Octopath Traveler II)- iii vs Clarissa Arwin (Wild ARMs XF)- i
Zatanna (Justice League Heroes) vs Myuria Tionysus (Star Ocean: The Last Hope) Decided by fiat
Highlander (Etrian Odyssey Nexus) vs Sienna (Chained Echoes) Decided by fiat
Boston (Romancing SaGa 3) vs Strawman (Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road)- iiii

Middle

Estelle Bright (Trails in the Sky FC)- iiiiii vs Warlock (Suikoden IV)
Red Mage (Final Fantasy V)- iii vs Alexei (Eternal Poison)
Chrom (Fire Emblem Awakening)- iii vs Ilia Silvestri (Star Ocean: First Departure)- i
Merrin (Fire Emblem Engage)- iiiiiii vs Sonya (Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia)

Light

Sancho (Front Mission 4) vs Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV)- ii
Karn (Breath of Fire) vs Elemancer Warlock (Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Myth)- ii
Almaz (Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance)- i vs Lucius (Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade)- ii
Elie (Suikoden II) vs Canopus Wolph (Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together)- iiiiiii
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