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Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« on: May 27, 2008, 08:05:13 PM »
Last week's results!  (...what?)

Godlike:
Fou-Lu (BoF4 - only the PC form for this) ii vs. Jade Curtiss (TotA - Cheagle Woods form) iiiiiii
Mr. S (FFL2) vs. E.V.E. (EBO) ii

Heavy:
Laike (Lunar1) iii vs. Orson (FE8 - chapter 5x form only for this) iiiii
Dekar (Lufia 2) i vs. Seth (PS4 - PC form only for this) iiiiiiii

Middle:
Bosch (BoF5 - only the PC form for this) iiii vs. Keifer  (DQ7)
Yang (FF4 - original PC form only for this) iiiiiiiiii vs. Seifer (FF8 - PC form only for this) i

Light:
Miranda (G3) iiiiiiii vs. Tempest (Lunar1) i
Sue (G1) iiii vs. Galvan (LoL2) iiii - *TIEBREAK*

Ok, with that out of the way...let's begin this week!  New faces, new challenges...and plenty of headaches for all!  Including a match only Meeple can vote on!

Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS)

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3)
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>)

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY)
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only) vs. Samson (AtL4)
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[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Touchdown and Alderaan explodes in the victory

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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 08:28:12 PM »
Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only): Faster deathing
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only): Hmm...sure. Although Nicolai is dangerous while Berserk, he can't heal then...eh.


Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY): Bullet to the head.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 08:39:42 PM by Tonfa »
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 08:31:22 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS)

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3)


Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY) - I am unsure on this one.
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 08:32:32 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs): Think he has OHKO damage?

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only): Faster and more accurate ID, yeah.
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only): Nic is above average at most things, but Odessa has more speed, highly accurate sleep, and healing against a character with low SP.

Middle:
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>): Asch1's actually not bad, but Milda definitely feels better with her damage.

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY): MBarrier should beat below average damage I think.
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 10:41:00 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs) - Ghaleon generally seems better though Galuf has an awful lot of options, being an FF5 character.
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS) - Meeple only, I presume?

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only) - DK Cecil gets held to much less amazing PCs. Lezard has to deal with a cavalcade of Einherjar (and Rufus) teammates to be compared against.
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only) - I love Odessa, but I'll be damned if I remember anything about these two in terms of battle performance.

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3) - XS3...
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA) - I actually LIKE Asch, but he doesn't have any decent status or speed tricks and Milda will smash him good. There may be a FoF trick he can abuse here though...

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY) - Ted looks downright amazing here.
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only) vs. Samson (AtL4) - Kneejerk, could be swayed.

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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 11:43:41 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs) - Assuming he's allowed equips from after he leaves... He comes in as a Samurai with Masamune (grants initiative) and !Mix (assuming you allow the mix level 2, which has the rather common Turtle Shell/Dragon Fang ingredients as prereqs). He has his choice of multiple unblockable statuses (assuming you see those hitting; I do), coming in with a Wall Ring/using the Dragon Armor for Reflect (if you see this working; I don't) ooooor just slugging Ghaleon out from here. With the initiative, Galuf mixes Haste Drink (Turtle Shell + Eyedrop). This allows him to get another turn (go init FFV haste?); he then throws out Dragon Armor/Giant Drink, heals until a double,  and then throws whichever of Giant Drink or Dragon Armor he didn't use earlier. 4x effective defenses against Ghaleon's spells is enough; Galuf then proceeds to physical or heal until he kills him.

Note this doesn't work if you don't allow mix level 2, but since the Chemist is the only thing that ever uses all those Turtle Shells/Dragon Fangs... well. I suppose this fails if you have high Ghaleon speed/damage respect? But I'd barely consider Ghaleon OHKOing, and with Shell or double HP he's not, to me. So.


Heavy:
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only) - Has status.

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY) - I respectfully submit that this battle is here solely so OK can orgasm over a Alma loss.
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 01:10:09 AM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)- Ghaleon is well beyond Godlike scaled to the time.

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Middle:
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>)

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY)- Ted is awful in S1.
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only) vs. Samson (AtL4)- Samson isn't a bad light. Virgil is the usual XS temp fare (Horrid).
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 04:30:06 AM »
Taishyr: The problem with that analysis is that, to me at least, crystal setups all have access to Bare/Traveller. As such Masamune isn't legal because everyone can use it. Doubly damning is the fact that it's equipment after he leaves, as you note.

Probably won't change your vote, but I felt your argument was long enough to at least merit a response. <_<
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 05:47:13 AM »
I drop bare from consideration, but that's a worthy note, yes. Alternately he comes in with Hermes Sandals?!? >_>

(I drop Bare from consideration, as a note, because it's not actually from a crystal, to me; it's who they are and not the crystal. if it just said "galuf, take into account the crystal as well" then yeah, but "assume Earth Crystal Jobs" to me gives him those jobs and not bare. technicality? yeah, but it's the way I read it. besides, not inclined to shaft a job- the job that can use it, to me - just because the generic also can. if anything, generics can't use the unique shit, but the specific people can, would be how i rolled with it in the dl.)
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 03:21:04 PM »
THIS IS YOUR HALFWAY POINT FOR VOTING!  VOTE NOW, FOOLS!
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 10:16:28 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)-  Ghaleon


Heavy:
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)- Odessa

Middle:

Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>)- Milda

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY)- Ted, Alma in this form has a healing staff. You cant whack yourself in FFT. Ted wins by default. You can't change her equipment until AFTER that battle. Yeah way to fail Alma.
Aww, I cant vote on the Arc 4 match. ;_;
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2008, 11:11:04 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs): I remember Ghaleon having some mid 3 digit damage when 2 Vigored Sword Danced Alex could barely break that.  He also was still level 99 vs. midlevel PCs with a Wind Cane (admittedly, horribly stats); Galuf is kind of screwed.
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS): Lina isn't a Godlike, *NOR* is she a temp.  She joins in the last stretch of the game permanently (which is about as long, relative to the game's length, as TotA's post Absorption Gate Arc.)  Being level 99 doesn't mean much when you have 4 other level 99 PCs.  Anyway, Goku is a Godlike based on his absolutely obscene damage and durability.  Lina's a fun Heavy (Lots of variety, good stats all around, etc.), but Godlike she is not.

For the record, Goku is technically not a Temp too! Granted, he only joins for the last two fights, where as Lina's there for the entire postZelas Arc, so yeah.

Anyway, for better plot analysis...Goku has 4,999,999 BP to an average of something like 1.3 Million (I don't know the exact value; just Piccolo is above average (1.9 Million) and Vegita is below (1.1 Million), in a game where this counts for Damage, Durability *AND* Evasion.  Lina can't really do squat to him before Goku gets his first turn, and Goku has a pretty clean overkill.  Yeah, yeah, OMG GOKU IS STUPID POWERFUL!! sounds like idiotic DBZ Fanboyism...but based on LotSS? Its kind of hard to argue this.  At worst, he's a variation of VP1 Lenneth with the GR.

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only): Not allowing Meth Seals today, so yeah.
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only): Nicholai's stats were slightly above Karin's, which is by no means bad, of course...but Odessa's were similar to Tir's whose stats are...somewhat better, and Wind Rune to match.

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3): Can't vote.
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>): Milda's damage was absolutely obscene at the time, from what I recall, and her HP was good too.  Asch was...Luke with magic, which isn't really a bad thing mind!  Maybe a few more skills putting him ahead of Luke on damage at the time to boot, but still, nowhere near the same level as Milda.

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY): When in doubt, hype MBarrier > PC who didn't really stand out in anyway with no skillset <_<?
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only) vs. Samson (AtL4): This fight fails.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2008, 04:33:23 AM by Meeplelard »
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2008, 01:51:35 AM »
LAST WARNING!

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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2008, 02:36:12 AM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY) - Lesalia form literally cannot do damage unless someone breaks her weapon, can she?
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2008, 07:31:49 PM »
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 11:54:53 PM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS)

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3)
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>)

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY)
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only)  vs. Samson (AtL4)
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Re: Temp Wars - Making Dhyer Cry Several Months at a Time!
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 03:49:52 AM »
Godlike:
Ghaleon (LSSSC - PC form only) vs. Galuf (FF5 - Assume Earth Crystal Jobs)
Lina Inverse (Slayers RPG) vs. Goku (DBZ:LotSS)

Heavy:
Dark Knight Cecil (FF4) vs. Lezard Valeth (VP2 - PC form only)
Odessa Silverburg (S1) vs. Nicholai (SH2 - PC form only)

Middle:
Shinjiro Aragaki (P3) vs. Canaan (XS3)
Milda (G1) vs. Asch (TotA - stick with his first temp appearance for this, i.e., the less laughable one >_>)

Light:
Ted (S1 form only) vs. Alma (FFT - LESALIA FORM ONLY)
Luis Virgil (XS1 - PC form only) vs. Samson (AtL4)
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