Author Topic: Season 44, Week 4 - Final boss slumber party! Van paints Kefka's nails pink.  (Read 5050 times)

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> HEY
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> LAGGY
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> UVIET?!??!?!
[01:08] <Laggy> YA!!!!!!!!!1111111111
[01:08] <Soppy-ReturningToInaba> OMG!!!!
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Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1) - The durability gap is insurmountably huge.

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7) - Well, that was fun, Jenova. Too bad none of your forms can handle Eirika's evade nor the fact that she's dealing ultrapowered Sieglinde blows.
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD) - Bwahahahahaha. Sui is faster and 2HKOs.

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7) - Well. Time you faced a non-fail Light, Gogo.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC) - Death. For the love of god, get out of Light Jean.
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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): Fuck off, Van. Still trying to wrap my head around last week's result. Oh well, Kefka shreds. Van wishes his HP wasn't Sync+20%.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): Infinite shots of Cure 4 send this the other way, but I'm not inclined to buy that.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7): Evadable monster. Hahaha.
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD): Faster. And thus, Eirika gets to mail it in this season.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos): I dunno. Good slugfest, need to look up Margulis.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7): No skillz.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC): Death.

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)- Unsure
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)- Unsure mark 2. I could see allowing Chaos the infinite Cure 4.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)- Albert can't scrape up the damage here, I think.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)- Skills
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)
...into the nightfall.

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)- Abstained.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)- I think Jade. Have to look up Chaos first.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)- Eirika, fuck off Jenova.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)- Margulis. Valeria badly needs MT damage to have a shot here.
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)- Albert. Fear spear does it.. I think.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)- Kent, no skills.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)- Jean, ID.
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Oh yeah, and Valeria probably beats Margulis. The clone thing might work if he didn't take 2.75x damage with them out... 2.75x Falcon damage is a hair under 2PCHP. Haha to Medica outracing that, or to him surviving even two of them honestly (and he needs to survive three).

So he's stuck hitting her with Ratkas and so on. Problem is he needs five of these to kill. (Well, it'd be barely four, but Ratka is apparently not full HP.) So it comes down to if you see him surving four Falcons... which granted, is close. 2.6PCHP. My kneejerk is he isn't past that, but I could be argued; it may be that I'm underrating him because surrounding bosses are even MORE durable.

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)
Unsure.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)
Leaning Eirika, I'd like to know how long Stop lasts, though.

Middle:

Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)
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Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)
Mad skillz.
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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): EDIT: I think I see Van at about 2xPCHP, and Havoc Wing isn't quite 150% since I take it against back row since you spend pretty much the entire WoR with your party back row. So, I think Kefka eats Ancient Requiem, which would OHKO Van, nevermind the somewhat less durable Kefka.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7): Eirika smash puny monster.
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 04:20:12 AM by Ultradude »
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Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)- Umm yeah, Chaos uses Cure4 MORE OFTEN that Jade uses BoltX.  I'm always changing my stance on uses of 1/32 moves or patterned moves, but in this match I either let Jade semi spam BoltX, meaning I have to let Chaos do it with Cure4.  The other method would be 1 use of BoltX every 16 turns or so, and Cure4 once every 7-8, I forget how many moves he uses.  Either way, Chaos is healing through BoltX and winning a slugfest from here based on sick defense and better damage.

Heavy:
Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7) - Ouch
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:
Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)- Not close

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)- Hmm... Kent doesn't fail quite enough.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)- Jean annoys me

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): Congrats on robbing Cecilia, now die to Kefka.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): See Elfboy.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7): Do I see Siegliende hitting Jenova's weakness? Does it even matter? No; all of Jenova's forms hit evasion, which kind of spells doom right there.
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD): Faster + 2HKO works for me.  Was questioning the 2HKO until I remembered Rose's HP is 2nd worst, and her magic defense, while above average, isn't that special to offset it.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos): Wins a damage race.
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD): Albert's the exact kind of fighter who can put pressure on Aika.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7): Gogo against someone competent...the fact that he's in the Semis at all AND DESERVES IT under my interps is pretty disgusting.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC): Death, win, etc.
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Chapin: Chaos uses CUR4 once every 8 turns (which is exactly the recharge rate I hold him to in the DL).  According to Meeplelard, Jade uses BoltX 20% of the time roughly.  So no, Jade uses BoltX more often and would probably win the match if it was conducted under in-game boss AI.  I don't let either spam their moves, but I do let Jade use BoltX every other turn (due to it being a random move theoretically spammable), while Chaos needs to wait for a full 7 turns after his first recharge for me at least (if Chaos could cast it faster than that, presumably he would).

Dark Holy Elf: I was under the impression that while the shadows take 275% damage, Margulis only absorbs half that, or 138% damage?  This is from your own notes and a chat with you on IRC awhile back...

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): Low Kefka respect checking in again. Reasonably high Van respect anyway.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): And lower Chaos respect.  Chaos is physically tanky but that won't help enough here.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos) - Margulis has just too much HP, the clones strategy doesn't improve Valeria's damage nearly enough and shoots Margulis's offense into overdrive.  Additional random musing: From the front, Margulis has a pretty good block rate too.  This only kicks in half the time in-game due to it being a surround attack, but even assuming he can use it only half the time, it's yet another obstacle Valeria has to get past.
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD) - But but maybe confuse turns off Additions!

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): Decent amount of Van damage respect plus me allowing the formchain. And hey, him beating Ceci totally isn't a rob for those of us who've only played ACF.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): Fuck off and die, Jade. I don't like Chaos either, but eww.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)


Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos): I...think? It's close, actually.
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)

Light:

Can die in a fire. Apart from Margie possibly taking Middle, I feel pretty safe in saying I hate this season.

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): Yeah, Kefka's strongest attack doesn't manage to do 75% of Van's HP, and if he's faster it's by a little, so he's not avoiding an MA.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): I dunno if I allow completely unrestricted cure4, but I don't do the full in-game restriction, so... he has enough to pull through.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos): If alcon ignores evade or something this is close, but probably still his.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)

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I think Chaos only needs to be able to use Cure4 every few turns. Unless the stat topics lie about his resistances, Jade's probably not even doing 3HKO to average damage against Chaos... Chaos isn't doing a whole lot better with Fast physicals because of Jade's defense, and the HP difference is staggering, but Cure4 can tip it pretty easily.
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Chapin: Chaos uses CUR4 once every 8 turns (which is exactly the recharge rate I hold him to in the DL).  According to Meeplelard, Jade uses BoltX 20% of the time roughly.  So no, Jade uses BoltX more often and would probably win the match if it was conducted under in-game boss AI.

Actually Jade's chances of using BoltX are variable and alter between one of 1 in 8, 1 in 16, 1 in 24, ..., 1 in 128 from turn to turn.

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)-
How did VAN rob Cecilia when freaking DHAOS lost to her?

But this is the kind of fight Van likes. Enter Overlimit to reduce Havok Wing significantly, MA on his turn.
It's pretty much whether I see him surviving 2 Havok Wings with 30-40% reduced damage, or Kefka surviving TWO Mystic Artes.

Not really buying the latter with Kefka durability and MA damage is pwn.

Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)- Chaos has Cure4 off of good speed. Jade's got....BoltX.

Heavy:

Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)- Really depends on whether I see her surviving 2 turns. I think she barely does it, then ID. Good match.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)- Still S1 Val....
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)- Gogo respect is a no-go.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)- ......Why's he in Light again?

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Chaos' Cure4 is 1/16, not 1/8, if you want to play odds. (He has a chance of using physicals or specials too, the 8 is just for spells.) The difference is that BoltX can be used on consecutive turns, Cure4 definitely has a cooldown period of 8 rounds.

EDIT: And Jade's still doing high 2HKO damage? BoltX is 160% to average, 70% resistance makes that 48%. Dunno how much HP you see Chaos having, but Chaos will definitely need to use Cure4 more than "once every few turns". He likely needs to use it rigorously every other turn, or perhaps every three? Depends on Chaos HP/MDef respect.

Snowfire: Yeah, you're right. I read ID's notes, and forgot my own.

This, however, changes nothing, I think? Margulis needs three rounds with the clone in play before killing, to get in the five attacks he needs. And 3x1.38 attacks from Valeria > 4 attacks from Valeria. Either way, his best strategy involves not using the clone and praying you see his durability as good enough.

The evade thing's a point, which I had forgotten. Val does have well above average skill, though -10% from Falcon pulls it down to only a bit above average. Hmm. Also, I am forgetting Ratka's animation, would need to decide if it hits physical or magical evade, since I know Valeria had some of her own physical evade to answer back with.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2008, 05:50:32 PM by Dark Holy Elf »

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)- Van anti-vote for him being a thief.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)- Chaos gets pretty high respect from me which is enough to tip this close match depending how you go about it.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)- Near everyone > Gogo

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Kefka- Wait, wha...? WHAT!? Ceci lost? Van beats someone that beats Dhaos??? This makes no sense. Oh well, at least Kefka ends the robbery here.
Jade- I do allow Curga, but I also consider the turn limit, Chaos just can't catch up.

Heavy:

Jenova- Anti vote
Rose - Read above

Middle:

Margulis- High Margulis respect as usual
Albert

Light:

Gogo
Jean

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA) - Kefka. So wait, by transitive property, did Van just beat Dhaos? Something is off here. Havok Wing will fix everything though.

Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1) - Abstain for now. Was leaning Chaos, but the more I think about it, his damage kinda sucks and I'm not entirely sure how much I let him use Cure 4. I generally don't hold bosses to their AI, but in this case I suppose it could be seen more as a recharge time than an AI issue. So yeah, every 8 turns I guess means Jade wins. Jade it is.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7) - Eirika. Evasion + versus monster = splat.

Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD) - Suicune.

Middle:

Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD) - Albert. I think?

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7) - Gogo. Henshin a Gogo baby!

Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC) - Jean.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2008, 09:04:28 PM by RadLink5 »

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Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): Unlimited Cure4? Ha. Ha. Ha.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7): Stop hitting is fatality.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7): Is not Gogo.
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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA) - Van sucks.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1) - Jade sucks. But he wins anyway~

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7) - Deals like a billion damage twice or something.

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos) - I think? Only good match here~

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7) - Cavaliers~
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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA): You know, as much as I despise Van for robbing Cecilia blind, someone should examine that overlimit hype, I suppose. Never good to let arguments go completely unchallenged. I don't think I care. Chip with something weak and fry with Havok Wing. Let it not be said that Kefka doesn't have damage control (or his own overkill limit!). Faster than Van.
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1): Hmm. The thunder resist might do it with Cure 4s. But I'm not horribly sure on that, so whatever.

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7): Well. THIS is something else entirely, isn't it?
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD): Confusion immunity and physical damage.

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7): Tools/Blitz/Blue Magic. Gogo doesn't need his party members to use these once he has them.
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC): Death.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 02:11:46 AM by Cryo »

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Kefka (FF6) vs Van Grants (TotA)
Chaos (FF1) vs Jade (BoF1)

Heavy:

Eirika (FE8) vs Jenova (FF7)
Suicune (PKMN) vs Rose (LoD)

Middle:

Margulis (XSs) vs Valeria (Suikos)
Aika (SoA) vs Albert (LoD)

Light:

Gogo (FF6) vs Kent (FE7)
Jean (BoF2) vs Fargo (CC)
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