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Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« on: February 07, 2008, 06:49:06 AM »
Godlike

Kefka (FF6) vs. Belial (WA4)  0-9
Empyrea (DQ8) vs. Luther Lansfield (SO3) 6-4
Patriarch Sergius XVII (XS2) vs. Ultros (FF6) 8-0
Zio (PS4) vs. Chaos (FFI)  0-10

Heavy

Darkham (AtL4) vs. Carlie (SD3) 6-1
Clive Winslett (WA3) vs. Kanon (WA2) 2-6
Popoi (SoM) vs. Brad Evans (WA2) 0-8 (For a match that almost everyone called as 'either way', it sure was one-sided...)
Serge (CC) vs. Malik Benedict (WA3) 8-1

Middle

Marisa (FE8) vs. Luna (Lunar1) 0-11
Gafgarion (FFT) vs. Rand (BoF2) 7-3
Shana (LoD) vs. Rath (FE7) 4-6
Mog (FF6) vs. Sarah (SF2) 7-0

Light

Galleon (S5) vs.  Amada (S2) 9-0
Sid (S2) vs. Guido (G1) 7-0
Hrist (VP1) vs. Priscilla (FE7) 11-0
Shante (AtL2) vs. Seth (FE8) 0-7 Light is one-sided... >.>;;

Bonus:
Justin (G1) vs. Rune Walsh (PS4) 3-5 And the age-old question is answered! (again...! >.>;;_


Moving on to the new round! The rest of Season 32's pool! Remember, this is about Plot power - the battle system of a game shouldn't feature too heavily (if at all) into your decision. How a Fire Emblem character made it into the next round...

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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM)
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1)
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs)
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD)

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2)
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC)

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)

Anyway, lots of lovely ladies in Heavy this round, should be fun!


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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 07:14:54 AM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM)- Non
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1)- Nay
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)- No
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)-  Aaannndd a no-brainer to round out the day.

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)- Hatbot.  If there's another way to decide this one, I'd be interested to hear it.
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)- Well... Light Warriors are destined warriors, but Zeno's enough above the heap to stand out... eh, nod to fighting style here.
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs)- Nein.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD)- Maya's technically only limited by her imagination... but nothing we get to see is on the level of a Dragoon.  So... bleh.

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)- Mage powerful enough to REND THE DIMENSIONS.  Rarr.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2)
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC)- Nyet.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)- Hell with this one.
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)- Boomstick or no boomstick.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)- Aeris in a plot fight has the exact same problem as Aeris in a regular fight; magicless mage ;_;
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 07:15:45 AM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM)- Orlandu. As far as I know, Purim is pretty much just a regular girl.
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1)- Zog
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)- Altima. Evil head vs evil lackey
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)- Myria

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)- Alena. Emily is just kind of a brawler, Alena was at least a little more than that, I think?
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)- Zeno...
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs)- Not solid enough on Jaheira's plot.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD)- Rose

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)- Warlock. Uber mage/scholar.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)- Uh...
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2)- Uh...
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC)- Kukuru. Helped seal an evil far greater than Belselk.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)- No.
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)- Jin. Super spy or something.
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)- Rufus, I guess.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)- Aeris. Virginia kills her and she gets revenge with Holy!!!
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 08:17:11 AM »
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How a Fire Emblem character made it into the next round...

Respected warrior vs. someone who at one point needs to be physically carried by another PC because she is tired. Yeah I wonder why, too. <_<

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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM): Top-tier swordsman vs. uh someone with magic I guess.
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1): Geshp is portrayed as a sneaky scoundrel who can't really fight. Zog is so badass Jade needed to use subterfuge to beat him.
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT): Yeah, big bad > flunky as a general rule. Odd Eye may be a peerless swordsman, but that's still trumped by the leader of a band of demons each of whom is strong enough to take out an army.
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs): Uh yeah.

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4): Emily's plot power is pretty much limited to her being hard to arm-wrestle? Alena punches holes through walls and emerges as the champion of a tournament for the strongest fighters in the land. That's pretty impressive as far as pure fighters go.
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1): Not much Light Warrior respect here.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD): Maya's no slouch; she holds her own against Siegfried and that's good enough to beat random Dragoon to me. Still... Rose has lived for ten millenia and is a tier above the other Dragoons. Good enough.

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4): Powerful mage vs. pharmacist (sorry, OK!).
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4): Accelerator, Shapeshifter, etc. Jude's powerful in Middle.
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2): It's implied the former overlord has lost most of his power, but I'll assume it's enough to beat a random wolf.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3): SUPER FIGHTING MECHA GADGET Z. While I'm not sure how literally to take his command rune and unite, it's still enough to beat Rikimaru.
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2): Accomplished spy and swordmaster vs. some kid.
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7): Genius with shotgun > someone whose role in S5's plot is to get owned.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3): Guns. Don't buy the Holy argument myself!

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 08:31:40 AM »
Seconding Elf.  At the very least every FE character is many times stronger in their world than a normal soldier.  In terms of plot power a super elite solder > a lot of the DL. 



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Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs) - Magus fucks with time IIRC... Myria defies it and is a Goddess.

Heavy
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs) - Oddly Nina4 is the one I remember the least plotwise because I was drunk for half of BoF4... but int erms of plot power I'm pretty convinced she beats a Harper... a low ranking one at that.

Middle
Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4) - Ha ha Bowman
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4) - Accelerator vs Turning self into stone!
Midboss vs Blanca- Missed this one, Midboss has more plot power than he has actual power, more than you can say for Blanca.

Light
Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3) - Ha ha, okay
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 11:46:54 AM »
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2): Jin is awesome here...
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3): Is a fighter works I guess.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 06:12:36 PM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM)-He isn't called Thunder God Cid for no reason.
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1)-Zog has some badassery going on.
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)-Big Bad>Flunky does indeed work.
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)-Hey, Magus has some experience forcing godlike entities to do his bidding. How well'd that work out for you the first time anyway, man?

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)-Eh, works.
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)-FF1 character plot power. That's funny.
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs)-I...guess? They're both decidedly Not-Heavy on plot power.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD)-I...could maybe see Maya over one of the other Dragoons here? It'd still be a stretch, but I could see it. Rose? Hell no.

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)-Rune cannons are Warlock's plot power. That's gonna be hard to top.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)-Yeah, he's got this easy.
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2)-Blanca's awesome, but no way is he taking this.
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC)-She helped seal one, sure. But this is one on one, and he is the strongest of the Quarter Knights.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)-...
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)-I swear I feel like I'm just parroting Elfboy for this round. <_<;
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)-Roy is a bandit. Rufus pays him off and moves on.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)-ARMs are great for winning fights with. Holy...is kinda vague and I'm gonna say it's not useful in a fight here.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 06:39:49 PM »

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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM)
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1)
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)- Hero of legend trumps a simple officer.
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs)
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD)

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2)
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC)

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)- Wandering Samurai on a quest for vegenence.. against a robot. Okay!
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7)
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3)- Going with the super ancient mega old race girl versus some random drifter.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 12:24:03 AM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM) - Plot power wise, both the boy and the sprite > the girl.  Legendary Excalibur-wielding general wins by a lot here.
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs) - I'm not actually over-impressed with Myria, but Magus's little scheme fails in-game, so yeah.  Nice try, though.

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4) - Tournament winner beats person who inexplicably can lose at arm-wrestling to the Flame Champion.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD) - Rose & Zieg are about the only Dragoons I give much plot credit at all.  But yeah, this is Rose, with thousands of years of experience killing people.

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4) - Bowman is actively pathetic.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4) - Runs circles around her.
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2) - Uh, Mid-Boss may theoretically be powerful, but he always seems to lose, and Blanca is a tricksy wolf.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3) -Yay barrels.
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2) - Illogical as it is, futuristic swordiness does indeed apparently beat even futuristic guns, so it's definitely beating Mustadio's too.
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Shotgun, ruthlessness, dog.
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - Aeris doesn't need Holy; she fries Virginia to a crisp with Materia anyway, which she is established both plotwise and in mechanics as being awesome at using.

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 02:17:55 AM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM) - Wasn't Purim a princess or something?  That gives her a good amount of political power, so she's not quite as helpless here as people might think.  Still, Orlandu is a legendary military hero and all.  I think he'd have the edge.
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1) - Power-obsessed warlord who can transform into a dragon > whatever the hell Geshp was
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT)
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs)

Heavy
Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4)
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1)
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD) - She has been alive for thousands of years....

Middle
Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4)
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4)
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2) - This may just be my own opinion, but I was under the impression that Midboss was losing on purpose because he wanted to help make Laharl stronger.  Also, it could be argued that he's King Krichevskoy in disguise, who was supposed to be the uber-powerful ruler of the entire Underworld.  Blanca...was just a wolf.

Light
Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3)
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2)
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7) - Political power wins the day
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3) - Holy.  Kaboom.

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2008, 04:40:33 AM »
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Aeris doesn't need Holy; she fries Virginia to a crisp with Materia anyway, which she is established both plotwise and in mechanics as being awesome at using.

Where is the plot evidence she is good at using materia? I honestly don't recall this. Only time I can remember Aeris being mentioned with materia is when she comments that she only possesses one materia (later revealed to be Holy) so at best she is inexperienced with it. Hojo et al. want to study her because she is half-Cetra but I don't believe her lineage is ever stated explicitly to give her useful powers aside from Holy.

And now, I turn your statement around and say: Virginia fries Aeris to a crisp with a medium, which she is established both plotwise and in mechanics as being awesome at using.

At the very least, she's one of only four people who have access to this power, whereas materia is used by anyone and everyone in the FF7 world.

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 05:22:02 AM »
Well, I'm not an FF7 plot guru, but you already guessed at what I was thinking of- Hojo's research with Aeris's mother.  The Cetra are close to the Planet and the Lifestream and all, pretty much.  I'll grant that my recollection is fuzzy, but I seem to recall a general "Aeris = strong mage" vibe to FF7.  I suspect our Aeris + plot respect is similar here; a strong mage is good but hardly invulnerable in a plot power tourney.

However, as for Virginia, I'll turn YOUR turnabout right back at you, Mr. Wright.  How is Virginia established as competent in WA3?  I honestly don't recall much Medium plothype in WA3 (while there's tons of "Materia is great!" plothype in FF7), but I could be wildly off-base here, and even granting that Mediums are an unusual and powerful edge, that Virginia was any good at using them.  Gallows, yes; Virginia...  maybe?  Again, I don't recall.

Also, for me at least, worlds don't get any "scaling."  If the ability to magically light a candle is rare in one world while to blow up a continent is common in another world...  well, sorry, the random MagiGrunt is going to blow the best magic-user of World A out of the water.  Materia & Mediums strike me as roughly as powerful as each other.

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2008, 05:24:03 AM »
Materia is essentially crystalized life force/memory, and by using it you essentially use it to create a link to the planet at large to call up the effect in question.  Cetra basically have this ability innately to some degree, so one could assume they'd thusly be even more efficent with the Materia to augment the effect, and would therefor get more effect from a Materia than a human user.  I dunno if the game ever actually spells out this chain of logic anywhere, although I recall mimicing this effect being the reason for the mako thing in SOLDIER.

Of course, none of that gives Aeris claim to any particular Materia, and the idea of using Holy, which took days of prayer in a specific shrine to activate, as a combat spell is... no.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 05:33:47 AM »
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Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs. Purim (SoM): Purim has spirits helping her...but Orlandu is considered one of the strongest warriors on an entire continent, and has far more experience on his side.
Geshp (SF2) vs. Zog (BoF1): Something tells me the king of the Dark Dragons in a Breath of Fire game ranks higher than a Greater Devil in Shining Force...this is mostly kneejerk though.
Odd Eye (SF2) vs. Altima (FFT): MEANWHILE, I think its easy to say Greater Devils and Zodiac Beasts are somewhat similar in power...and Altima's suppose to be somewhat on par with Zeon whose far more powerful than Odd Eye...yeah...
Magus (CT) vs. Myria (BoFs): Myria's being a Goddess is something she's actually proven worthy of in a few ways (the fact that she pretty much separated the entire world and held off an entire desert from spreading and controlled said world for 500 years...yeah...), Magus just can't compete with something like that.

Heavy

Emily (S3) vs. Alena (DW4): Emily gets actual hype for her strength and such, Alena kind of doesn't.
Zeno (BoF5) vs. Knight (FF1): Sheldar is a world where Strength = Everything, and what not (that's what D-ratios means, really) and Zeno's a pretty respectable rank.  FF1 Knight, meanwhile...FF1 PLOT and all that, Chosen Warrior can only go so far.
Nina Wyndia (BoF4) vs. Jaheira (BGs): I'm going on the kneejerk of Jaheira being an experienced warrior means more than Nina whose just some princess who gets wrapped up in an odd situation.
Maya Schrodinger (WA3) vs. Rose (LoD): Ok, Maya's got pretty bad ass plot powers...but then again, so does Rose.  So when in doubt, I'm going with the character who terrorized the world for 10,000 years as the tiebreak.

Middle

Bowman Jean (SO2) vs. Warlock (S4): Warlock is suppose to be some powerful uber mage or something...Bowman is just a pharmacist who knows how to fight.
Jude Maverick (WA4) vs. Porom (FF4): WA4 Hypes ARMs to hell, this feels like it matters more than your usual Child Prodigy White Mage.
Mid-Boss (Dis) vs. Blanca (SH2): No real contest.  Wolf vs. Guy who is holding back a good part of the game mostly to help Laharl grow, and is suppose to be one of the most powerful demons, etc.  Yeah...
Belselk (WA) vs. Kukuru (AtLC): ACF states outright that Berserk is actually the most powerful of the Metal Demons when it comes to raw combat ability.  Kukuru is...a priest who shows little actual plot power that matters.

Light

Rikimaru (S2) vs. Gadget Z (S3): When in doubt, go with the character who can turn into a giant voltronesque robot at will <.<
Mustadio Buranza (FFT) vs. Jin Uzuki (XS2): Jin's suppose to be this bad ass swordsman with lots of experience who can lead an army and what not, so bad ass he can do the cliche "Deflect Bullets with his sword" thing.  Mustadio is a random engineer with a gun
Roy (S5) vs. Rufus Shinra (FF7): When in doubt, go with the character who has a shotgun and not a stick as his weapon?
Aeris Gainsborough (FF7) vs. Virginia Maxwell (WA3): Good thing this match is last, cause I'm going to rant a bit on it!

I'm going to be honest here...
Aeris has very little plot power whatsoever.  Yeah, ok, she can talk to the planet, and she can use the White Materia.  Except this means...very little.  Yeah, she can ACTIVATE it, but that's about it; remember, she activated it, and it did nothing until the main threat she was trying to stop was gone (at which point, there was another threat available.)  Think about that...she tries and utterly fails at something.  She completely lacks the experience and frame of mind to use said power.  FURTHERMORE, Holy is completely useless against things the world doesn't deem evil (and considering Virginia's ideals are pretty pure and her actions to match...yeah...), I don't see how that would help her.

MEANWHILE, the Mediums in WA3 are something the game hypes are being incredibly noteworthy, and Virginia is one of *4 PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE PLANET* that can actually use them, and she makes use of them as well.  Combine that with actual experience in a deadly weapon (no, a pole is not a deadly weapon), and how as Elfboy said, Materia is used by everyone...yeah.

Also, FF7 never actually states Aeris is the only one who can use the White Materia, IIRC.  Its just she was the one in possession of it, and having spoken with the planet, only one with something close to knowledge in using it.  Seriously, think about it; if she really had full control over it, would she have said "I have materia, but its special; its completely useless!", and wouldn't it have, you know, actually activated and stopped the exact thing she was trying to stop?

So in the end, Holy might be that damned awesome...but Aeris very clearly had little control over it.  To give you an idea, she has less control over Holy than Ex-death had over the Void, a power that eventually ATE HIM UP.  That's not something I'm willing to respect.

Edit: And CK also reminds us that Aeris needed days to power that up...Virginia can access a medium and its full potential at any given moment.  Its like claiming Sephiroth can blow up a planet at will...when it took him at least 2 weeks (excluding the 5 years it took him to prepare) to pull that off.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2008, 05:34:02 AM »
Dunno if it's been tallied yet, but I added Misboss and Blanca due to somehow ignoring it.

Also Meep... Sephiroth can PWN TEH UNIVERSE SIX TIMES IN TEN MINUTES IF HE NEEDS TOOO!!!!!

(Yeah, dunno Virginia, but Aeris can't really do shit plot power wise.  She needed Cloud to protect her from wimpy troops, she dies against Sephiroth, something the others all fail to do, and she can't even control the power she does have.  In theory she could have insane plot power, but in theory Seph can blowup and remake the universe!)

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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 02:22:10 AM »
Agree with most of what's been said but one thing. It's not *Aerith's* fault or at least not her whole fault that Holy failed it's also Cloud and co's for taking their own sweet time to defeat Sephiroth and "release" Holy. Also Maiden of the Planet and other FFVII compilation medias confirm that it was Aerith that had a hand in guiding the lifestream to aid Holy in the end so no she wasn't a complete failure after all. Of course this can be seen in game when during the ending whilst lifestream is swarming over the planet, Marlene looking out of a window utters "The Flower Girl?"

As for "needing" Cloud to protect her I wouldn't say that persay, perhaps but then Aerith had been evading capture by the Shinra for years remember and the compilation suggests that she mainly asked Cloud to be her bodyguard because she was curious about his similarities to Zack. Since she can be quite confident and assertive (or rude/pushy depending on how you see it ;p) most of the time character wise I'd say the "distressed damsel act" is  sometimes just a card that she sometimes chooses to play when it suits her.
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Re: Plot Power Tournament - S32 Round 2
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 07:13:45 AM »
Nevermind, I didn't realize this topic was dated.
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