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Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« on: November 16, 2010, 01:30:58 AM »
Fuse- Does Mind Magic gived Fuse enough firepower to survive in Heavy?
Fujin- FUJIN. SMASHY. PUNY. HEAVIES.
Elinica- Don't fuck with a Queen who has Stun.

Heavy:

Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD)
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4)
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3)
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM)
Fuse vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fuse vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fuse vs Levin (XF)

Fujin (FF8) vs Doel (LoD)
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4)
Fujin vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fujin vs Kevin (SD3)
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fujin vs Popoi (SoM)
Fujin vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fujin vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fujin vs Levin (XF)

Elinica (FE10) vs Doel (LoD)
Elincia vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4)
Elincia vs Zero (MMXCM)
Elincia vs Kevin (SD3)
Elincia vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Elincia vs Popoi (SoM)
Elincia vs Neifirst (PS2)
Elincia vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Elincia vs Levin (XF)
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 01:38:28 AM »
Heavy:

Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD) - I think.
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2) - Nicholai probably 3HKOs Fuse and Fuse has a bazillion shots of Full healing.
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4) - Status?
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM) - Uhh... can Zero be statused?
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3) - These two are pretty similar but I think Fuse is faster.
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2) - Pretty sure Fuse can survive an Energy Charge anyway.
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM) - I ...think?
Fuse vs Neifirst (PS2) - Awakening.
Fuse vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3) - Awakening.
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 01:53:05 AM »
Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD): Mind Magic's style of fight.
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2): Stalls out the SP at worst. Boss version is lulz.
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4): Halves status, thus is a better version of the same thing.
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM): Status immune once he gets a turn. Could argue palsy = bind too, but yeah, I don't see Fuse spamming a reasonably durable PC to death without him getting a single turn.
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3): Kevin may have some argument but eh, gutting Fuse is better overall.
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2): Awakening doesn't buff defence, and Saga doesn't block silence. Bad combo against Saki.
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM): Some horrible status or other. See comments about Zero.

Fujin (FF8) vs Doel (LoD): Boss.
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2): Not a boss. Okay he has a boss form but DON'T ASK ME HOW THAT FIGHT GOES OH GOD.
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4): Think Scias has the oomph needed here? Halving status should give him the insurance he needs, too.
Fujin vs Zero (MMXCM): Wins if he goes first. Maay win otherwise. Not sure exactly where Fujin is for speed, but this works.
Fujin vs Kevin (SD3): Open for arguments.
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2): Boss.
Fujin vs Popoi (SoM): Better at the status fight?

Elinica (FE10) vs Doel (LoD): Should outslug, even though the invincibility is useless (Physic!). Doel is pretty good when thunder isn't blocked, 2HKO damage off of ~2PC physical durability in that second form.
Elincia vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2): Could be argued. But at worst, stall out the SP probably works.
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4): OHKO.
Elincia vs Zero (MMXCM): Survives the second turn with 150% HP and status immunity I -think-. This is admittedly close.
Elincia vs Kevin (SD3): Counters tilt this nicely, I think.
Elincia vs Saki Inugami (SH2): EC physical OHKO.
Elincia vs Popoi (SoM): Status.

Fuse 3-4
Elincia 2-5
Fujin 2-5

None of them amazing Heavies, though none terrible.
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 02:18:22 AM »
Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD)
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4)- Don't think the evade makes up for sleep/superior offense.
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3)- Kevin does not like Fuse's evade.
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2)- Silence attached to his physical.
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM)
Fuse vs Neifirst (PS2)- Neifirst is too fast for Fuse to buff his way out of trouble, I think.
Fuse vs Levin (XF)- I think.

Fujin (FF8) vs Doel (LoD)- Boss.
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)- Less sad boss.
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4)- Halving status is enough, I think.
Fujin vs Zero (MMXCM)- Zero can't block Confuse.
Fujin vs Kevin (SD3)- Pain/Confuse work the usual magic.
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fujin vs Popoi (SoM)
Fujin vs Neifirst (PS2)

Elinica (FE10) vs Doel (LoD)- Boss with an invinciblity phase is bad news for Elinica.
Elincia vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4)-I think.
Elincia vs Zero (MMXCM)
Elincia vs Kevin (SD3)- Stun smashes.
Elincia vs Saki Inugami (SH2)- Energy charge--OHKO
Elincia vs Popoi (SoM)- Status.
Elincia vs Neifirst (PS2)- Think her offense is too nasty for Elinica.
Elincia vs Levin Brenton (XF)- Counters are not Levin's friend.
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 09:02:17 AM »
Heavy:

Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD)- How good is awakening on speed, since I doubt it's preventing a 2HKO since it's not supposed to be so hot.
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4)
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3)
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM)
Fuse vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fuse vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fuse vs Levin (XF)

Fujin (FF8) vs Doel (LoD)
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)- Yeah, boss Nicholai crushes this. Fujin has shit PDur and struggles badly with damage.
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4)- Doesn't need to halve status, just OHKOs
Fujin vs Zero (MMXCM)- Forget the status immunity, because it's Fujin PDur.
Fujin vs Kevin (SD3)- Fujin could actually win this!
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fujin vs Popoi (SoM)
Fujin vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fujin vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fujin vs Levin (XF)- Fujin PDur and Fujin speed! So impressive.
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 01:25:31 PM »
Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD)
Fuse vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4)
Fuse vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3)
Fuse vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM)
Fuse vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fuse vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fuse vs Levin (XF)

0/10 - PC vs. several bosses.  Really depends on what you allow, but...man

Fujin (FF8) vs Doel (LoD)
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4)
Fujin vs Zero (MMXCM)
Fujin vs Kevin (SD3)
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Fujin vs Popoi (SoM)
Fujin vs Neifirst (PS2)
Fujin vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Fujin vs Levin (XF)

5/10 - Better!

Elinica (FE10) vs Doel (LoD)
Elincia vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4)
Elincia vs Zero (MMXCM)
Elincia vs Kevin (SD3)
Elincia vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Elincia vs Popoi (SoM)
Elincia vs Neifirst (PS2)
Elincia vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
Elincia vs Levin (XF)

0/10 - FE10 Elincia being specified makes her sad...not like either wins any of these fights. 
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 07:44:51 PM »
Fuse (Saga) vs Doel (LoD) - Sure.
Fuse vs Scias (BoF4) - Is just better
Fuse vs Kevin (SD3)- Eh Kevin
Fuse vs Popoi (SoM) - Does something evil

Don't want to think about Fujin
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 10:39:14 PM »
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4)
Elincia vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3)
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Re: Proving grounds (sorta)Heavy: Saga, FF8, FE10
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 12:38:53 PM »
Fujin vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2) - Damage difference is kinda lolwut here. Fujin doesn't stand a chance.
Fujin vs Scias (BoF4) - Fujin PDur, Scias critical. It's not even that close, is it? >.> (Also, can't Sai at all. Hahaha.)
Fujin vs Saki Inugami (SH2) - Is that a boss she's fighting? Welp, there goes any chance of Fujin winning.
Fujin vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3) - As above. Status immunity really does screw over Fujin.

Elincia vs Nicholai Conrad (SH2)
Elincia vs Scias (BoF4)
Elincia vs Saki Inugami (SH2)
Elincia vs Takaya Sakaki (Pers3) - Elincia respect is low. Hell, so is respect for Fujin. This wasn't a good pool for me to vote on, apparently.
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