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superaielman

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Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« on: December 08, 2010, 01:11:11 AM »
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Precis- SO2 eqiups and a 2HKO are nice, but is it enough for heavy?
Aggron- Because it's a goddamn Aggron.
Et- Token MK2 slot.

Precis vs Billy Lee Black
Precis vs Crono
Precis vs Izlude Tingel
Precis vs Dart
Precis vs Daos
Precis vs Dryst
Precis vs Alicia
Precis vs Torhu Adachi
Precis vs Alex
Precis vs Vulcanus

Aggron vs Billy Lee Black
Aggron vs Crono
Aggron vs Izlude Tingel
Aggron vs Dart
Aggron vs Daos
Aggron vs Dryst
Aggron vs Alicia
Aggron vs Torhu Adachi
Aggron vs Alex
Aggron vs Vulcanus

Et vs Billy Lee Black
Et vs Crono
Et vs Izlude Tingel
Et vs Dart
Et vs Daos
Et vs Dryst
Et vs Alicia
Et vs Torhu Adachi
Et vs Alex
Et vs Vulcanus
« Last Edit: December 08, 2010, 01:14:41 AM by superaielman »
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 01:27:42 AM »
Aggron vs Crono - Crono's got the speed and magic damage to take this comfortably.
Aggron vs Alicia - See him getting the OHKO.
Aggron vs Tohru Adachi - Has fire magic. I... could see him getting OHKOed, but he's pretty resistant to physicals, so I'm gonna go with no. He probably gets the OHKO after Heat Riser, if not normally.

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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 01:46:14 AM »
Precis vs Billy Lee Black- I don't think Precis can OHKO and he can block stun.
Precis vs Crono- Precis can halve thunder. Goodbye Crono.0
Precis vs Izlude Tingel- Ranged physicals generally give Izlude trouble. Breaks are a waste of time here.
Precis vs Dart- Even if she doesn't 2HKO, she sure as hell should 3HKO. Go Dart speed.
Precis vs Daos- 2HKO, I think.
Precis vs Dryst- Dryst is reasonably evasive and durable, so he should 2HKO and avoid a 2HKO back.
Precis vs Alicia- Don't think she can legally block Stone and stun at the same time to me, so that is ballgame.
Precis vs Torhu Adachi- ID.
Precis vs Alex-Alex's regen/defense should push her to a 3HKO, and that is ballgame.
Precis vs Vulcanus- No idea.

Aggron vs Billy Lee Black- Ether bullets.
Aggron vs Crono- Aggron doesn't resist thunder.
Aggron vs Izlude Tingel- *munch*
Aggron vs Dart- DDC takes advantage of Aggron's poor Mdef.
Aggron vs Daos-Can hit an elemental weakness. Ouch.
Aggron vs Dryst- Should 2HKO with Flame. Failing that, he likely gets three turns in which to wreck Aggron.
Aggron vs Alicia- Iron tail makes Alicia run screaming.
Aggron vsTorhu Adachi- outslugs with magic (Aggron damage isn't great) or probably has time to set up a Evil Smile/Ghastly Wail combo.
Aggron vs Alex- Red Dragon Anger-->boom.
Aggron vs Vulcanus- Coming back to Vulcanus fights.
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 02:53:46 AM »
Precis vs Billy Lee Black - Edit: Underestimated Billy's speed and haste's duration some.  Silly me not doublechecking these things.
Precis vs Crono - Easy.
Precis vs Izlude Tingel - Also easy.
Precis vs Dart - Goes first, doubt she's 2HKO'd, 3HKOs at worst.
Precis vs Daos - Precis needs to OHKO here and doesn't manage it.
Precis vs Dryst - I'll bite.
Precis vs Alex - Again.

Aggron vs Billy Lee Black - I dunno, not really feeling ether bullet hype, but on the other hand... Edit: aaaaand it's completely unnecessary on rechecking Aggron.
Aggron vs Crono - Zappity.
Aggron vs Izlude Tingel - Cruch.
Aggron vs Dart - Dart's good enough for this.
Aggron vs Daos - Boom.
Aggron vs Dryst - I'll bite.
Aggron vs Alex - Boom.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2010, 03:50:43 AM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 07:17:29 AM »
Precis vs Billy Lee Black- Billy can't do this quickly since Precis halves all his damage, but Precis isn't that threatening in the meantime.
Precis vs Crono- What a sad match. Anyways, Crono's best physical game I think barely avoids 3HKO and then he loses the speed. It's damn borderline though. Sad Heavy match.
Precis vs Izlude Tingel- I guess?
Precis vs Dart-  She wins without starting SP, but he's also a clear Middle without starting SP
Precis vs Daos- Eh, Barrier definitely more Blunt than Strike or Pierce. Also, lol Daos, but she hammers him
Precis vs Alicia
Precis vs Torhu Adachi- Precis can null ID even without easily makeable IC, but Adachi can take Precis in a slugfest anyways.
Precis vs Alex- Precis' 2HKO is very borderline, so Alex honestly does this pretty easily. He's not 2HKOed, so he can just throw in a bit of healing.
Precis vs Vulcanus- Not in Vulcanus evasion respecting mood tonight

Aggron vs Billy Lee Black- Uh...abstain. All elemental, but an element that doesn't exist in Pokemon
Aggron vs Crono
Aggron vs Izlude Tingel
Aggron vs Dart
Aggron vs Daos- Not thinking about this
Aggron vs Alicia
Aggron vs Torhu Adachi
Aggron vs Alex
Aggron vs Vulcanus

Et vs Billy Lee Black- Lo,
Et vs Crono
Et vs Izlude Tingel
Et vs Dart
Et vs Daos
Et vs Alicia
Et vs Torhu Adachi- Eh, huh...
Et vs Alex
Et vs Vulcanus

Et 8-1 (Solid High Heavy near borderline. Also, this field is kind of horrid overall)
Precis 4-5 (What a Sad Heavy field)
Aggron 3-4 (Doesn't really like magic backup)
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 01:27:25 AM »
Precis Neumann vs Billy Lee Black - Oh wow Precis 2HKOs Billy who cares. He can even immune Stun, and deals ranged damage, which pretty much trivializes her.
Precis Neumann vs Crono - Resist thunder, go to town.
Precis Neumann vs Izlude Tingel - I guess evade should help Izlude enough to avoid a 2HKO if it comes to that, and he surely 2HKOs back.
Precis Neumann vs Dart - Eeeeeeeeeeeeh.
Precis Neumann vs Daos - ohgod bangbang attack hype nononononono
Precis Neumann vs Dryst - Gut sez counters tip this in his favor, I guess. Unless Barrier is ranged.
Precis Neumann vs Alicia - Holy shit Alicia get better stats.
Precis vs Tohru Adachi - ID immunity, 3HKO, go first, toodles. Heat Riser just makes her 4HKO and give Adachi little to no leeway at all.
Precis Neumann vs Alex Noah - Alex should be able to circumvent Algol and a 2HKO, which pretty much says a bye.

Aggron vs Billy Lee Black - Holy shit this fight fails.
Aggron vs Crono - hrrrrrrrrrrrrr forgot aggron isn't ground
Aggron vs Izlude Tingel - hrrrrrrrrrrrr
Aggron vs Dart - Aggron's mdur actually sucks, which is too bad for him when divine dickgirl cannon kicks in.
Aggron vs Daos - See Aggron mdur sucking.
Aggron vs Dryst - CURSE!?!?!
Aggron vs Alicia - Holy shit.
Aggron vs Tohru Adachi - Ghastly Wail? Sure.
Aggron vs Alex Noah - Aggron mdur kinda sucks.

Etward Dysler vs Billy Lee Black - Piles up damage like a mean mother. Just Et's type of fight.
Etward Dysler vs Crono - She even arguably resists Thunder, if the offense wasn't enough.
Etward Dysler vs Izlude Tingel - More of that gross damage pileup.
Etward Dysler vs Dart - And more.
Etward Dysler vs Daos - EDIT: Actually, nah. I'm actually thinking she may take a bit too long to pile up just the damage she needs, especially given she isn't hitting weakness and the 2HKO is very sound.
Etward Dysler vs Dryst - Damage.
Etward Dysler vs Alicia - More damage. Et is like the crack-addled daughter of Flay and Anna.
Etward Dysler vs Tohru Adachi - Immune Darkness, pile up the offense, go to town.
Etward Dysler vs Alex - Immune Fire, don't need it, pile up the offense, go to town.

Holy shit this Heavy field sucks. Et is pretty badass, though.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 12:49:41 AM by Jo'ou Ranbu »
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 02:57:05 AM »
Et vs Billy Lee Black
Et vs Crono
Et vs Izlude Tingel
Et vs Daos
Et vs Dryst
Et vs Alicia
Et vs Alex
Et vs Vulcanus
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 01:55:59 AM »
Precis vs Billy Lee Black - Billy does what he always does.
Precis vs Crono - Thunder res
Precis vs Izlude Tingel
Precis vs Dart - my views on starting SP should be pretty clear by now.
Precis vs Daos - L3 Sinistrals~
Precis vs Alicia - Blocks the status just fine. I don't think she's 1HKO'd. That pretty much let's Alicia play her usual chip-and-heal-at-once game.
Precis vs Torhu Adachi - Doesn't Adachi's 2-part ID game get through normal ID-blocking in P4?
Precis vs Alex - See Dhyer
Precis vs Vulcanus - Ranged damage to get around counters probably tips this enough.

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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 05:06:52 PM »
Adachi's Fear+Ghastly Wail combo indeed bypasses ID immunity. The problem is that it's -turn five- counting the ID and he at best loses initiative against average speed. Adachi HP sez he doesn't avoid a lot of 4HKOs from people who 2HKO at base with physicals, and casting Heat Riser doesn't help much when it's not a huge damage reduction (only 29%~ at the expense of a turn, only lasts three, isn't recastable and he still gets smacked once before casting it).
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 05:15:34 PM »
I thought Fear disabled attacking in some manner?
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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2010, 05:09:21 PM »
I thought Fear disabled attacking in some manner?

Chance to skip turn.  Like 50% or something?

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Re: Proving Grounds 2 Heavy- BANGBANG ATTACK
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2010, 07:03:36 PM »
Yeah. It's even a neat status in a vacuum (fun for healers and all, also effectively halves the foe's offense), but jesus christ turn four accuracy.
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