RPGDL 2012 Season 1: Noms!

[Cmdr_King]

Sure.  The list was based on how they were organized in the DL rankings list (so, alphabetized by abbreviation) and it was close enough to be functional so I didn't take the five minutes to make it pretty.  But requests are requests!

[DjinnAndTonic]

Mei-ling is a borderline Heavy/Godlike both as a PC and as a boss. Changes some of the matches she wins or loses, but overall no issue. Revya has a highly legitimate case for unrankable Bluelike and the interp that sees her as anything below that strips her away from one of her fundamental gameplay features. See the difference?

EDIT: To make this clearer, what annoys the fuck out of me about Revya isn't necessarily the split: it's the fact that the only way to make her rankable involves arbitrarily removing one of her defining features as a PC, which, by all rights, has no reason to not translate other than "it makes her unrankable". It's like disallowing Blue the Overdrive/Stasis Rune trick just to make him not Bluelike.

Except that Revya's summoning isn't that fundamental to her as a PC, it's more along the lines of a feature of the system. They just decided to use her a Base Panel. I can see the argument for allowing it, but it's certainly not 'fundamental'. (And notably, she's not even completely Bluelike -with- the Summoning ability due to the limited number of units she can summon, and the fact that they don't have initiative. Someone with fast OHKO/status, or anyone with good durability and MT damage can handle 9 Majin/Knights/Pyremages/Clerics or whatever she decides to summon.)

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

It comes from a command unique to her. No other PC in the game can summon the party. The designers could have decided on doing it some other way, but they didn't, they made party arrangement a gameplay mechanic tied to a PC. That's all that matters. It's clearly a mechanic tied to her gameplay-wise. If Lenneth had a command where she summoned her Einherjar in VP instead of it just being an automatic animation, that'd be a defining gameplay feature of hers as well.

[MalcolmMasher]

Godlike: T260G (SF), Terra (FF6), Orlandu (FFT), Mewtwo (PKMN)
Heavy: Hector (FE7), Joshua (FE8), Jeremy Non (WA4), Zed (WA1)
Middle: Bowser (SMRPG), Massimo (MMXCM), Ronfar (Lunar 2), Frog (CT)
Light: Pikachu (PKMN), Kongol (LoD), Kahn (BoF4), Cid (FF4)

[Jo'ou Ranbu]

CK: swapped KOS for VP2 Phyress.

[SnowFire]

Godlike: Fang (FF13), Orlandu (FFT), Rupert (WAXF), Divine Weapon (WA4)*
Heavy: Nel (SO3), Kornell (G3), Elincia (FE10), Levin (WAXF)
Middle: Stocke (RH), Eruca (RH), Luna (Lunar), Hope (FF13)
Light: Saki (Grandia), Labrynthia (WAXF), Leonardo (FE10), Cyan (FF6)

* CK, feel free to toss out the Divine Weapon if you want.  I know some people assume Accelerator is just an action that can be used and the boss AI is super-stupid and thus DW is unbeatable given a turn, but I definitely think that there's no in-game difference between "random chance of activating" and "random chance of the AI using the move."  FF6 enemy AI will pick "Critical" 20% of the time and "Fight" 80% of the time for some scripts, for example, but clearly it's not really an AI choice; it's implementing a percentage activation via AI script.  And we don't even know if it's an AI script issue or not in WA4 anyway.  Go with Violetta (G3) if you toss DW.

[Dark Holy Elf]

but I definitely think that there's no in-game difference between "random chance of activating" and "random chance of the AI using the move." 

Are you holding all bosses to their in-game AI in general, now? That's what this comment seems to imply.

For all that I agree with you re Accelerator, it could easily be just a random chance and that's the only thing which keeps him sane and rankable outside a Bluelike tournament.

[Talaysen]

Godlike:
Ellen Kirishima (Persona series)
Chris Lightfellow (Suikoden III)
Nate Nanjo (Persona series)
Orlandu Cidolfus (Final Fantasy Tactics)

Heavy:
Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves the World)
Elincia (Fire Emblem series)
Delita Hyral (Final Fantasy Tactics)
Rune Walsh (Phantasy Star 4)

Middle:
Stocke (Radiant Historia)
Yukiko Amagi (Persona 4)
Poco (Arc the Lad 2)
Luna Noah (Lunar: Silver Star Story)

Light:
Labyrinthia Wordsworth (Wild Arms XF)
Tricia (Soul Nomad and the World Eaters)
Aeris Gainsbourgh (Final Fantasy VII)
Elena (Final Fantasy VII)

[Dark Holy Elf]

Godlike: Sanctuary Keeper (FFX), Nailah (FE10), Wraith (VP1), Shania (SH3)
Heavy: Hugo (S3), Demi (PS4), Mesarthim (Saga), Wakka (FFX)
Middle: Hope (FF13), Sceptile (PKMN), Tifa (FF7), Sara (BoF1)
Light: Shady (WA3), Kahn (BoF4), Oulan (S2), Lucius (FE7)

[Lance]

Godlike
Terra (FF6)
Jessica (DQ8)
Souji Seta (P4)
Yuri Hyuga (SHs)

Heavy
Chie Satonaka (P4)
Angela (SD3)
Nephenee (FEs)
Alena (DQ4)

Middle
Rudy (WA1)
Aigis (P3)
Frog (CT)
Ashton (SO2)

Light
Sazh (FF13)
Etna (Disgaea)
Ilyana (FEs)
Sheena (ToS)


Only ones I'm not sure about are Sazh and Etna. Let me know if you think either of them belongs in Middle and I'll do a little rearranging.

[SnowFire]

Edited out Colette for great Leonardo (FE10) hype.  Dudes will get luger'd or something.

DHE: I see it as a different issue than holding bosses to in-game AI, because I don't see it as an AI choice, I see Accelerator as similar to that Mana Khemia passive skill that says "Every time you take an action, X% chance of having the next turn come 50% quicker."  Or 100% quicker in this case.

[OblivionKnight]

Godlike: Pandora (R:P), Heiss (RH), Virgil (SF), Dark Dragon (ShF)
Heavy: Mithos Yggdrasil (ToS), Legretta (TotA), Thuris (SN), Sephiran (FE:RD)
Middle: Nina (BoF:DQ), Lucca (CT), Yukiko Amagi (P4), Syphide (VP:S)
Light: Luneth (FF3), Edward (FF4), Mia (GS), Mia (L:SSC)


Let's see how well I remember these rankings of old!

[Dhyerwolf]

Only ones I'm not sure about are Sazh and Etna. Let me know if you think either of them belongs in Middle and I'll do a little rearranging.

Etna is a Middle (in ranking and in power level).

[Cmdr_King]

Oops.  Noms rolled, topic incoming.  Lock!