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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2013, 12:49:58 AM »
I think there are sometimes opportunities for enemies to evade again between certain attacks though I'm not certain exactly when those occur (about the only thing with noteworthy evade is the final superboss).

Regardless, I'd strongly disagree with giving an entire cast accuracy credit over something like that. (This has come up before with Shadow Hearts, I said the same thing then.) I'd suggest either giving the entire chain one accuracy check, or giving each attack one (in-game mechanics be damned). You could also preserve the mechanics but lower the individual hit rate so that a -50% accuracy effect results in -50% damage on average, but that's probably more complex than it's worth.

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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2013, 01:22:15 AM »
If games are "once you land a hit the rest connect" I assume that the evade makes one check on the first strike, and if that misses then the entire attack chain is dodged. Either that or I would go for -50% accuracy = -50% damage, but yeah that's a massive pain in the ass to actually work out in cases like VPs where you have damage dependent on the chain connecting in full. I wouldn't hype an entire cast as ITE because they are multi-hit (Suikoden 3 also has had issues with this sort of thing in the past).
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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2013, 06:35:10 AM »
Godlike
Thanatos (Secret of Mana) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI) - Amusingly, keeping Terra under a disabling status lock means that she can't unmorph, so she gets to keep the doubled magic durability until she wakes up. (And possibly afterwards, because FF6.) Anyway, I figure she can survive long enough for a second turn.

Heavy
Ivan (Golden Sun) vs Maya Schroedinger (Wild ARMs 3)

Middle
Palom (Final Fantasy IV) vs Hippopressor (Mega Man X: Command Mission)

Light

Chemist (Final Fantasy Tactics)  vs Rinoa Heartilly (Final Fantasy VIII)

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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2013, 07:17:12 AM »
Gonna let this run until tomorrow, since there's a couple people I think would want to vote who haven't.

There's no games currently up for ranking, so barring a flood of updates to player data, we'll just have data gathering along with next weeks finals.  On the really off chance one of those actually meets playership reqs (I think the best played game between me and lance is either uh fe6 or Trails.  yeah.), I think I'll just run an additional week for actual ranking.
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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2013, 09:47:19 PM »
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Thanatos (Secret of Mana) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI) - Morphed Ultima no damage caps kthnxbai
Rubicante (Final Fantasy IV) vs Cid Raines (Final Fantasy XIII) - Hmm... I don't think I see Cid OHKOing, so Rubi can probably heal through the dangerous parts and I don't see Raines as fast at all...

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Ivan (Golden Sun) vs Maya Schroedinger (Wild ARMs 3) - Kneejerk that Ivan can pop the Agility boost Djinni and then outpace Maya in a damage war?
Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria) vs Nina (Breath of Fire) - Quoth the Tally-chu: 10^-50 chance is better than zero.

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Palom (Final Fantasy IV) vs Hippopressor (Mega Man X: Command Mission)
Peter (Shining Force II) vs Cleo (Suikoden)

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Tia (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)
Chemist (Final Fantasy Tactics)  vs Rinoa Heartlily (Final Fantasy VIII)

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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2013, 10:15:30 PM »
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Heavy

Middle

Palom (Final Fantasy IV) vs Hippopressor (Mega Man X: Command Mission)
Peter (Shining Force II) vs Cleo (Suikoden)

Light

Tia (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)
Chemist (Final Fantasy Tactics)  vs Rinoa Heartlily (Final Fantasy VIII)

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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2013, 03:22:11 AM »
Godlike

Thanatos (Secret of Mana) vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)
Rubicante (Final Fantasy IV) vs Cid Raines (Final Fantasy XIII)

Heavy

Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria) vs Nina (Breath of Fire)

Middle

Palom (Final Fantasy IV) vs Hippopressor (Mega Man X: Command Mission)

Light

Tia (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals) vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)
Chemist (Final Fantasy Tactics)  vs Rinoa Heartlily (Final Fantasy VIII)

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Re: RPGDL 2012 Season 3 Week 4: Mostly... actually interesting matches. Huh.
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2013, 04:05:21 AM »
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Thanatos (Secret of Mana)- iiiii vs Terra Branford (Final Fantasy VI)- iiii
Rubicante (Final Fantasy IV)- iiii vs Cid Raines (Final Fantasy XIII)- iiiii

Heavy

Ivan (Golden Sun)- ii vs Maya Schroedinger (Wild ARMs 3)- iiii
Alicia (Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria)- iiiiiiii vs Nina (Breath of Fire)- ii

Middle

Palom (Final Fantasy IV)- iiiiiii vs Hippopressor (Mega Man X: Command Mission)- iii
Peter (Shining Force II)- iiiiiiii vs Cleo (Suikoden)

Light

Tia (Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals)- iii vs Zhuzhen Liu (Shadow Hearts)- iiiiiii
Chemist (Final Fantasy Tactics)  vs Rinoa Heartlily (Final Fantasy VIII)- iiiiiiiiiiiii
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