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Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« on: July 15, 2013, 07:42:05 PM »
Cid>Claude
Miguel>Riou
Loki>Ryu
Genevieve>Melfice

Rolf>Cloud
Wren>Lede
Demi 5, Lin 3
Arngrim>Maxim

Sara>Izlude
Cristo>Vaynard
Marivel>Rena
Balk>Norris

Nina>Katt
MOMO>Banon
Melody>Melville
Grey>Vinsfeld


Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC)
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1)

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1)

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4)
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)
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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 07:54:29 PM »
Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC)- Round three of Cid smashing Godlike.
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1)- Merits no commentary, just dislike.

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1)- Healer busting.

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4)- Sara damage is pretty inept, Cristo buffing makes it even more inept. Should be enough.
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)- Marivel is not much of a slugger, and I don't think status can pull things out for her.

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)- Confusion. E: Right, zombie blocker. I'll buy that.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)- Smash.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 04:06:45 PM by superaielman »
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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 11:37:19 PM »
Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC): Fisherman PAUNCH vs. Cid.

Now that that is out of the way, let's begin the week of close matches.

Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1): Not sure. They have similar damage, but Gen should have slightly higher magic durability I believe... he has notably more HP, but she takes about 1/3 less from magic, and I do not kneejerk that the HP gap exceeds a 3:2 (though it's very close most likely). I guess there's nothing else worth considering for this match so sure, Gen wins, although Super banning Indiscriminate means he is definitely voting for the wrong person! (No Indiscriminate means Gen has to rely on Poison Blow, while Loki gets to use the ITE physical Extension Force, giving Loki the match rather easily.)

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4): Rolf's actually kinda annoying these days now that I frown at overlevelled skills. Oh well. (Not that he needed them to beat Cloud I imagine.)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1): Hinges entirely on if sleep resets energy storage or not. Demi trying to win with sleep-locking should have more than enough time to win before Anrgrim gets two turns in a row, but certainly not enough time if he gets two, period. One of these days I need to test exactly how that works at endgame.

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4): This match comes down to one thing: does DQ defence work against physicals from other games? On the one hand, it mechanically probably should... critiical properties are clearly defined by the attacker. On the other hand, it's a big weakness of Upper in-game (enemies use crits to punch through it). Rather important because Cristo is only 85% average HP so a Sara crit should OHKO him ignoring defence. Sara crits are rare things to be sure (I'd guess 5%) but this match is easily long enough to see them.
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT): Kneejerk.

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs): "Is BoF2 zombie equivalent to confuse y/n" -> Don't know.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1): Grey must block poison and can't afford a damage hit. This lowers his HP such that he should be 3HKOed by Eliminate Scanner (83% PCHP, all VP fighters take about 10% extra from magic). Beyond that... it depends what average per-hit damage is in VP. I just ran a very cursory estimate and got 1065, so let's take it as 1000 (lower is more favourable to Grey). This means Melody reduces damage by 375 per hit. Grey's damage thus becomes:

Normal attack: 3141
Icicle Disaster: 2022

Grey does 97% PCHP damage in 3 turns. Does this kill Melody? Uhhh... maybe, I would kinda kneejerk yes. But I'm not confident at all. And if the per-hit average is indeed 1065, this drops to 95% for instance. And Melody could be faster; she was IIRC average on the dot... as is Grey. (And there are no especially compelling reasons to tiebreak for either.) I think that's enough to vote Melody? But it's close, I'll think on this.

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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2013, 01:21:51 AM »
Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC) - lol
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1) - sure

Heavy:

Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1) - 2hkos (very barely) to me and I'm not sure Demi can quite sneak in enough extra turns to kill before she's out of healing, although sleep does exist, but I generally disrespect that amounting to much.  Close though!

Middle:

Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs) - pass
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1) - easy enough for me anyways
« Last Edit: July 16, 2013, 01:25:59 AM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 03:03:05 AM »
Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC): Absorbs Holy to make things even better.
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1): Indiscriminate showdown. Anyways, I think Loki is slightly better at this. I'm not hyping Gen's mdur, and it's a face-off. Going with the overall better one.

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1): Kills with the SC.

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4): Sara's crits weren't ITD.
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT): Maybe soon I'll stop scaling bosses.

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)

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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 08:25:44 AM »
Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC)
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1)

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)- Ugh Megid is so stupid. I can completely see completely disallowing it and an tempted because it's egregious. I guess I would need to think of a barometer of where overlevelled skills gets cut off.

Don't think Rolf beats Cloud without Megid though, because he'll trigger the L1 and get Paralyzed.

Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1)

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4)
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)- Hmmm, well, BoF 2 Zombie has no typical effects associated with FF Zombie/Disease/whatever, so I guess it makes sense to see it actually as a weird confuse/sure, nerf the single status weapon whoring when a decision is close.
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)
...into the nightfall.

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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2013, 07:18:49 AM »
Godlike
Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC)
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1)

Heavy
Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1)

Middle
Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4)
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)

Light
Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)

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Re: Season 7, Week 4-Slapfight for the ages, ahoy!
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2013, 02:44:30 AM »
Time for OK to vote and ruin the totals!


Godlike:

Cidolfas Orlandu (FFT) vs Miguel (CC)
Loki (VP1) vs Genevieve (VP1)

Heavy:

Rolf Landale (PS2) vs Wren (PS4)
Demi (PS4) vs Arngrim (VP1)

Middle:

Sara (BoF1) vs Cristo (DQ4)
Marivel Armitage (WA2) vs Balk Fenzol (FFT)

Light:

Nina (BoF2) vs MOMO (XSs)
Melody Vilente (WA3) vs Grey (VP1)
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