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Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« on: October 10, 2013, 03:42:50 AM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6)
Noa vs Odie (SN)
Noa vs Alicia (VP2)
Noa vs Frejyadour (S5)
Noa vs Umi (CSTW)
Noa vs Estelle (Trails)
Noa vs Lute (FE8)
Noa vs High Cavalier (XF)
Noa vs Cleo (S1)
Noa vs Tifa (FF7)
Noa vs Rouge (Saga)
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT)

Pepperoni (MK2) vs Shadow (FF6)
Pepperoni vs Odie (SN)
Pepperoni vs Alicia (VP2)
Pepperoni vs Frejyadour (S5)
Pepperoni vs Umi (CSTW)
Pepperoni vs Estelle (Trails)
Pepperoni vs Lute (FE8)
Pepperoni vs High Cavalier (XF)
Pepperoni vs Cleo (S1)
Pepperoni vs Tifa (FF7)
Pepperoni vs Rouge (Saga)
Pepperoni vs Geomancer (FFT)

Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6)
Berserker vs Odie (SN)
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2)
Berserker vs Frejyadour (S5)
Berserker vs Umi (CSTW)
Berserker vs Estelle (Trails)
Berserker vs Lute (FE8)
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF)
Berserker vs Cleo (S1)
Berserker vs Tifa (FF7)
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga)
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT)
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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 02:59:42 PM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6) - Immune Confuse, survive a single shot of Queen Twister, mock everything with Vanish. Tough luck. EDIT: I mean, maaaybe Noa 2HKOs him with Miracle Art+non-Miracle Art off the Gaia Gear setup for healing? But even then, she has to give up a turn to build gauge that way regardless. EDIT: no, she 2HKOs with a single non-Miracle Art+Queen Twister if he goes that route, that's giving her too much leeway.
Noa vs Odie (SN) - Tough Love.
Noa vs Alicia (VP2) - Pretty sure Noa 4-3s? Since I believe she 2HKOs cleanly with Miracle Art+Queen Twister, this is enough. Alicia also 3HKOs, but that doesn't really work in her favor.
Noa vs Frejyadour Falenas (S5) - Immune Charm or bust.
Noa vs Umi (CSTW) - See above.
Noa vs Lute (FE8) - Yeah.
Noa vs High Cavalier (XF) - More love.
Noa vs Cleo (S1) - See above.
Noa vs Tifa Lockheart (FF7) - Noa's damage control is so goddamn good and she can definitely stave off a L2 even without Queen Twister (hello, Noa's Ark scrapes a 2HKO to average as is).
Noa vs Rouge (Saga) - Rouge wishes he had MysticMail here.
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT) - Immunes Confuse/Charm, 2HKOs, has good enough stats to survive two Noa turns.

Pepperoncino (MK2) vs Shadow (FF6) - Good lord, Gaia Gear and Vanish.
Pepperoncino vs Odie (SN) - Holy crap, Odie's matches against Earth. Pepperoni quite possibly misses even a 2HKO and he needs to OHKO here!
Pepperoncino vs Alicia (VP2) - This is ugly, Alicia can get some resistance to his damage and immunes ID.
Pepperoncino vs Frejyadour Falenas (S5) - 2HKOs first.
Pepperoncino vs Umi (CSTW) - Cute Pose lets her avoid the OHKO and she's considerably faster. Once -that's- up, she Siren's Calls, 4-3s and drops somewhere along the lines of 2x PC HP on Pepperoni's head. Ugly.
Pepperoncino vs Lute (FE8) - Dear god Lute durability.
Pepperoncino vs High Cavalier (XF) - Pepperoni only 3HKOs, but High Cavalier doesn't even come particularly close to killing him with a full Intrude chain. It happens.
Pepperoncino vs Cleo (S1) - Fire immunity.
Pepperoncino vs Tifa Lockheart (FF7) - Damage control and may be able to survive a fucking L2 anyway.
Pepperoni vs Rouge (Saga) - ID immunity. Rouge immunes ground attacks, but hell, he has to go for that -and- ID immunity too and risks getting outslugged by BASIC MANA KHEMIA 2 PHYSICALS that way.
Pepperoni vs Geomancer (FFT) - Earth Clothes and Angel Ring. GOOOOOOOODBYE.

Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6) - Vanish.
Berserker vs Odie (SN) - If Berserker attacks -ever-, she eats a counter and then Odie's own turn, and she can -not- survive that. As for Odie, he can just stall for the special attack, which kills Berserker dead.
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2) - Berserker against someone who 4HKOs her. Yeeeeeah.
Berserker vs Frejyadour Falenas (S5) - Sorta like Alex vs. Berserker, only Frey can chip even better.
Berserker vs Umi (CSTW) - Once again, Umi's crazy buffing game comes into play. Berserker at full HP doesn't even 2HKO Umi, she of the Esuna-tastic durability, so she just has all the time in the world to pile up the offense until it goes completely nuts.
Berserker vs Lute (FE8) - Evade makes this kiiiiiiinda interesting, but Lute durability is -so- bad.
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF) - Interesting fight. High Cavalier pretty much wants to chip until an Intrude chain, but I suspect Berserker evade will make this sorta dicy and any damage Berserker drops sticks. And HP Burst also speaks a bit -against- High Cavalier too. Kneejerk is Berserker.
Berserker vs Cleo (S1) - Faster and 2HKOs, and Cleo doesn't get OHKOed by Berserker until like 75% of her HP is lost. HP Burst even -is- a point in Berserker's favor, but Cleo also has solid evade, decent HP and plentiful damage control to mess with Berserker's game.
Berserker vs Tifa Lockheart (FF7) - Cid situation.
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga) - I was about to vote Rouge because lol berserker damage at full hp and lol id, BUT: Rouge's so slow Berserker 3-2s. And she 3HKOs. And Rouge's ID is turn two. Good LORD.
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT) - Spam Geomancy until the status sticks, I guess? This does give Berserker damage, but Geomancer should be able to work it out.
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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 03:04:19 PM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6)- I *think* Noa goes first and manages the 2HKO. Shadow is just bad at taking hits.
Noa vs Odie (SN)- Charm.
Noa vs Alicia (VP2)- Charm!
Noa vs Frejyadour (S5)- Don't think Frejyadour can resist charm.
Noa vs Lute (FE8)- Charm.
Noa vs High Cavalier (XF)- Unless tough love didn't work on women.
Noa vs Cleo (S1)- Charm.
Noa vs Tifa (FF7)- Can chipsmash past a limit.
Noa vs Rouge (Saga)- Charm.
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT)- Charm is out and Geo is too durable to reliably blitz.

Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6)- Inviz Edge.
Berserker vs Odie (SN)-Deep pain and then a single attack. That lets Odie chip around the more than a little unpleasant limit range of Berserker. 
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2)- Ugly.
Berserker vs Frejyadour (S5)- Physical to chip past the danger range, smashy spell of doom.
Berserker vs Lute (FE8)- *Checks Lute's Pdef* Good lord she's not a Middle.
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF)- Intrude chain should do it.
Berserker vs Cleo (S1)- No fire rune.
Berserker vs Tifa (FF7)- Attack and then wait. Berserker can afford to wait until he starts taking damage from having no VP.
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga)- ID. Even Rouge doesn't fear Berserker's base physical.
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT)- Geomancy is very good at chipping. Shield evasion frustrates Berserker some as well.
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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 05:48:32 PM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6) - eh sure.
Noa vs Odie (SN)
Noa vs Umi (CSTW)
Noa vs Lute (FE8)
Noa vs Cleo (S1)
Noa vs Tifa (FF7) - Damage control, she has it in *spades*
Noa vs Rouge (Saga)
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT)

Pepperoni (MK2) vs Shadow (FF6) - Good lord.
Pepperoni vs Odie (SN) - Oh wow type match makes Pepperoni suuuuuuuck here.
Pepperoni vs Umi (CSTW) - Cute Pose, sure.
Pepperoni vs Lute (FE8) - egads
Pepperoni vs Cleo (S1)
Pepperoni vs Tifa (FF7)
Pepperoni vs Rouge (Saga)
Pepperoni vs Geomancer (FFT)
« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 08:18:58 PM by Random Consonant »

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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 05:07:13 AM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6)
Noa vs Odie (SN)- He blocks one status to me...but his typing is less damage given and taken to Wind. I think this prevents him from OHKOing...but Noa may not 2HKO average anyways. And he definitely 2HKOs...but...is her elemental resistance a unique accessory? Assuming it is
Noa vs Alicia (VP2)
Noa vs Frejyadour (S5)
Noa vs Estelle (Trails)
Noa vs Lute (FE8)
Noa vs High Cavalier (XF)
Noa vs Cleo (S1)
Noa vs Tifa (FF7)
Noa vs Rouge (Saga)
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT)

Pepperoni (MK2) vs Shadow (FF6)
Pepperoni vs Odie (SN)
 Pepperoni vs Alicia (VP2)
Pepperoni vs Frejyadour (S5)
Pepperoni vs Estelle (Trails)
Pepperoni vs Lute (FE8)
Pepperoni vs High Cavalier (XF)- High Cav hates above average durability
Pepperoni vs Cleo (S1)
Pepperoni vs Tifa (FF7)
Pepperoni vs Rouge (Saga)
Pepperoni vs Geomancer (FFT)

Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6)
Berserker vs Odie (SN)
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2)
Berserker vs Frejyadour (S5)
Berserker vs Estelle (Trails)- Tiebreaker. Berserker can't hit Estelle, because she'll heal, hit 100 CP and kill. Estelle can't hit Berserker, will make things bad. Tiebreaker is...FREEZE ORBMENT THAT I GIVE ESTELLE. Yes.
Berserker vs Lute (FE8)
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF)- Not even that close. Base kill point is 293, but Berserker has good Pdur. High Cav needs to land at least 6 hits, 80% base hit rate and 34% evasion make this not happen.
Berserker vs Cleo (S1)
Berserker vs Tifa (FF7)- ...
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga)
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT)- Yeah, Shield evade gives him this

Noa 10-1 (Uh...who thought she was at all Middle at this point?)
Pepperoni 5-6
Berserker 4-7
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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2013, 02:29:42 AM »
Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6): Oh dear.
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2): I'm not sure exactly where I see Alicia's damage these days, but it's probably not enough. Intuitively she should line up really badly here since her damage isn't spiky the way most VP2 damage is.
Berserker vs Frejyadour (S5): Yeah, Freyjadour should have the right chipping to win this. In theory I should check, since he is slower and not all that durable, but on the other hand, he may just evade one of the two attacks anyway, he is pretty good at that.
Berserker vs Umi (CSTW): Blind.
Berserker vs Estelle (Trails): I think? She should dodge limits too well. And under Dhyer views... she can pretty safely make one attack at worst, so if they sit there staring at each other thereafter, Estelle wins due to having done SOME damage. Depends how fast CP goes up of course, but yeah.
Berserker vs Lute (FE8): Lute 3HKOs, but Berserker after triggering a counter and taking a regular attack has a OHKO.
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF): Berserker evade is too high for an Intrude chain to work.
Berserker vs Cleo (S1): Haha HP Burst against a faster 2HKOer, that is some hype right there.
Berserker vs Tifa (FF7): We saw this last week.
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga): 3-2, Charging Thrust OHKO.
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT): Might well outslug, but "drop elemental damage until stop lands, then smash" also seems viable. And the shield, yeah.

Berserker 5-6

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Re: Proving Grounds, Round 2 Week 1 Middle- Noa SMASH.
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2013, 06:10:09 PM »
Noa (LoL) vs Shadow (FF6): Should manage a 2HKO on Shadow at least, for all that it leaves her penniless.
Noa vs Odie (SN):
Noa vs Alicia (VP2): Lesbians
Noa vs Frejyadour (S5): Charms the pants right off
Noa vs Umi (CSTW): YES!
Noa vs Estelle (Trails): MORE!
Noa vs Lute (FE8): PLEASE!
Noa vs High Cavalier (XF): HARDER!
Noa vs Cleo (S1): AH!
Noa vs Tifa (FF7): Should manage to get around a dangerous limit? Not tooooo sure.
Noa vs Rouge (Saga): OH!
Noa vs Geomancer (FFT): End of the gravy train. Isn't killed fast and can 2-3HKO.

Pepperoni (MK2) vs Shadow (FF6)
Pepperoni vs Odie (SN)
Pepperoni vs Alicia (VP2)
Pepperoni vs Frejyadour (S5)
Pepperoni vs Umi (CSTW)
Pepperoni vs Estelle (Trails)
Pepperoni vs Lute (FE8)
Pepperoni vs High Cavalier (XF)
Pepperoni vs Cleo (S1): Fire res?
Pepperoni vs Tifa (FF7)
Pepperoni vs Rouge (Saga)
Pepperoni vs Geomancer (FFT): Earth res?

Berserker (XF) vs Shadow (FF6)
Berserker vs Odie (SN)
Berserker vs Alicia (VP2)
Berserker vs Frejyadour (S5)
Berserker vs Umi (CSTW)
Berserker vs Estelle (Trails)
Berserker vs Lute (FE8)
Berserker vs High Cavalier (XF)
Berserker vs Cleo (S1)
Berserker vs Tifa (FF7)
Berserker vs Rouge (Saga)
Berserker vs Geomancer (FFT)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2013, 07:01:40 PM by Pyro »