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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2014, 08:20:24 AM »
Plus, we have to be practical here.  If we're serious about prosecuting for perjury, we have to imprison every single cop who ever testified that shot an unarmed defendant/victim/whoever after they appeared to "reach for their waistband."  Look for the phrase, cops use that specific language while testifying all the time.  It's something cops say after they shot someone out of a completely irrational impulse, to make it seem like they had an objectively reasonable fear that the defendant/victim/whoever was about to pull out a gun.  Even Darren Wilson said Michael Brown reached for his waistband...after being shot, running from the car, and presumably before reaching his hands out, or something.  That doesn't even make sense!  Actually, find me a cop who shot someone and DOESN'T use that exact phrase and I'll be shocked.  It sounds so much better than "I freaked out and unloaded a clip."

Relatedly, wow does Darren Wilson's version of events sound like lies from front to back.  I can accept that he may have acted in legitimate self-defense - much more likely, in my opinion, is that he shot Brown in objectively unreasonable self-defense, which would work out to something like voluntary manslaughter -  but if it actually happened the way Wilson testified it did?  I will eat my hat.
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2014, 09:30:19 AM »
I'm down for perjury prosecution in the extremely rare case where there's clear evidence of a conspiracy to frame someone, or otherwise "I'm gonna lie in court" level stuff.

I think you are actually agreeing with me! I'm not saying that perjury should often be taken to trial, but this is as straight up blatantly lying as you can get (And no, I'm not interested in mental state. You live in society, you play by the rules)
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2014, 06:53:33 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/08/29/when-unarmed-men-reach-for-their-waistbands/

Apparently a lot of attention has been paid to the "reached for his waistband" testimony.
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2014, 08:14:15 PM »
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2014, 02:46:13 PM »
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2015, 05:00:56 AM »
http://blogs.mediapart.fr/blog/olivier-tonneau/110115/charlie-hebdo-letter-my-british-friends

Interesting blog, not sure how much it can be trusted, but argues a few things about France's culture that apparently outsiders are missing in the whole Charlie Hebdo thing.

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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2015, 07:09:04 PM »
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/marissa-alexander-may-be-released

Marissa Alexander, who Stand Your Ground apparently never applied to, is finally released from jail.
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2015, 08:30:35 PM »
Awesome.  Florida's judicial system is a cesspit.  Hopefully this will lead to some reform.

And by reform I mean firing the judge in her initial trial.
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Re: Politics '14: Oh crap, it's an (mid term) election year!
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2015, 09:15:29 PM »
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