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Godlike:

1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2)
4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC)

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2)
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4)
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1)

Middle:

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA)
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4)
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2)

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3)
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7)

Bonus:

Masked Superheroes vs. Masked Angst

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Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC) - Goes first, overkills. Next.

Heavy:

Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4) - His status hits first. Game.
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1) - Uh, Feena needs to deal nearly 2x PC HP damage to Lete River Ultros. I'm not sure she does it, even hitting weakness. Zuh.

Middle:

Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1) - Screw you, Alice. ;_;
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2) - Brad needs to OHKO. No idea if he does.

Light:

Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2) - God no.
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3) - Uh.
Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos) - Faster and about as damaging, if nothing else.
Raja (PS4) vs. Erk (FE7) - Doubles Fire. Man, that's ugly.
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Godlike:

1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2): Gets two turns to play with. That is... a hell of a lot of damage. Granted, Avalon is pretty damn durable so I could maybe see him surviving this? But eh.
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2): Thinking.
4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6): Mmph. Well, him vs. Shania was close to me (assuming no statusblocker), and Terra definitely seems less capable of busting past him than Shania did, since she'll never doubleturn him. Sooo yeah.

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2): Better damage and speed, durability is close enough.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2): Energy Charge probably busts right past the limit phase. Even if it doesn't... well if it doesn't she probably loses? Hmm. Still favouring Saki.
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1): Lete River form might have an argument though.

Middle:

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA): I... think. She can stall for a doubleturn and then SMAAASH with two big bad spells. Not enough respect for Tear's MDef to pull that one out, I think. Getting 400 SP at once is a pretty big boon for her.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1): OHKOs. I can toss up the numbers if desired, but it's all laid out in both stat topics thanks to Dhyer being awesome and it's clear enough. Alice is actually kinda shoddy at mdur due to SH1 MDef sucking.
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4): Isn't OHKOed by Boar. Can equip two shields if necessary to ensure this. Then hits her bad MDef with Vol.
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2): Thinking he probably does OHKO. Eh, it's very close, and WA2 kill point isn't pegged down for me so I can't be certain... but in Fu's sixth match this run, I'm inclined to make a judgement call against him.

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2): Viktor has notably more damage, HP, and Def. Means he 3HKOs where Freed 4HKOs. Makes up for Freed going first.
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3): EDIT: Yeah, Diamond set's MDef boost makes Jewel modestly tanky against magic, and Estella will need a L3 to heal-lock. That's not cutting it. Jewel 3HKOs back.
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos): ARROWS HIT FLYING WEAKNESS. (or just some argument involving speed)
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7): DOUBLES FIRE. ON RAJA.

Bonus:

Don't fuck with Mystere and Grand Papillon.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 06:51:22 AM by Dark Holy Elf »

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1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs Indalecio (SO2)
Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6): Of all the statuses for FF6 not to have a blocker for, Stop.
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC)

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2)
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4): MysticChange granted status immunity, right? If so, one turn is all she needs, I'm thinking she gets it.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1)

Middle:

Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4): Goes first, OHKOs

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7)
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 06:25:19 AM by Monkeyfinger »

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Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4) - Sleep turn 1, get Blink up to keep her from pulling off Mystic Change.  I think Lifesprinkler at least has an argument to get through, but she's getting at most one turn awake which isn't enough to kill Edge.

Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7) - Uh yeah.

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Because it came up in chat and I had nothing better to do than download the Saga iso...

MysticChange procs even if the attack that initiates it (MysticSword/Boots/Gloves) is blocked. This means that technically Asellus will still get it off if you see Saga blocking as translating as evasion to other games on a whiff. (Took me enough friggin' Dullahan fights for one to finally block it to test this, too.)
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Godlike:

1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)- Lady
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2)- Indy. Can see where KOS has an argument, but high Indy respect torpedos that for me.
4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)- Terra
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC)- Loki

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2)- Decus
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4)- Edge. Sleep locks her down.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)- Saki. Quicker smasher with similar durability.
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1)- Unsure on Ultros durability, but think Lete River might just OHKO off better speed anyways.

Middle:

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA)- Tear. Her 4HKO physicals 2HKO here. Easy.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)- Would have to check if Tengaar's physical locks Alice down.
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4)- Hahn
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2)- Fu So Ya. Don't think Brad doesn't 67% PC HP on turn 1.

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)- Viktor. Sure.
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3)- Estella. 2288 S3 Damage should take care of Jewel easily enough (Estella's L4 is about 90% PC HP damage, and even 25% is not going to back Jewel survive an L2+that). So Estella has 9 heal locking spells, and most of them at 33 speed to negate Jewel's speed advantage.
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)- Stallion. Not 1/2 average damage (I'm sure)
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7)- Erk. Mdef should save him against Silence a turn.
...into the nightfall.

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1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2)
4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC)- Loki's Mdurability is appalling by normal boss standards, let alone Godlike standards. But Arc's magic damage really, really sucks, and he needs to stay under invinicble thanks to his bad durability. Fail at life, Arc. Loki going first seals this fight and I don't want to fucking this about this any more.

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2)
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4)- Sleep. Edge blocks charm anyway, not that Saga charm is useful in a duel.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1)


Middle:

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA)- Seconding Dhyer.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)- Don't buy a OHKO.
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4)- Here on the other hand..
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2)- Think Brad just misses offing Fu in a shot.

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3)
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)- Speed.
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7)
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1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2) - Lady vs Terra finale please.
4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)

Heavy:

Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2) Just better.
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1) Triple turning + hitting weakness? Ouch! Imp So .. Oh wait Talisman Feena.


Middle

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA - Seconding Elfboy. Meru's durability isn't that goddamn bad especially against a less than stellar physical fighter in the first place. I had more of a problem with Albert + Kongol dying in game than Meru. Speed + healing ftw~ I'm not seeing Tears taking her out take quick especially w/th improved dragoon defences.
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Her 4HKO physicals 2HKO here. Easy.

Maybe they would, except that on Tear's second turn, Meru has 250% her normal Def, and there's no way Tear completes the 2HKO under those conditions.

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I haven't posted in one of these for a while...


Godlike:

1-Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2) - Well...Lady has the damage, but Avalon's durability allows him to survive, and with a form-chain...that's all he needs.  Who would have thought.
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2) - If she had more EP for Platinum Singer and Blood Dancer, she might be able to take this.  As it is...the initial spell hurts her, then Indy's wounded enough to ToT EQ her, which likely finishes her off.  She could start with PS (she needs to, or she takes 2 spells and dies before killing him), then BD, then she has 3 more turns of PS...takes a hit...yeah.  That initial hit is probably too much.  Oh well.
4-Luis Virgil (XSs) vs. Terra Branford (FF6) - Victim's Hail mauls Terra.  Vengeance Breath just makes it too much.
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC) - Indiscriminate to the face.

Heavy:

1-Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2) - Fire.
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4) - ...she shouldn't be here.  Should not have beaten Hect.  WHORE.  Anyway...nothing protects her from claws of death, so...
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2) - Energy Charge, kill. 
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1) - Think the TimeGate might be enough with weakness hitting.

Middle:

1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA) - Meru's physical does little damage to her, and her Pendant helps guard against the magic.  Tear can get resistance to it as well - 10% from switching her gloves and grabbing a ribbon (accessory, but...you might not allow it), and if you allow her to grab a cape, that's 35% there.  I'd have to see which is better, grabbing a poison charm (15%) and gloves for 20%, or keeping the Pendant for the magical resilience boost and tacking on the gloves for 5%.  Each little bit helps.  Either way, I think with the pendant and a bit of resistance (5% with the FDEF boost) should keep any spells from tearing her apart.  Blue Sea Dragon is around 2100 damage to a 1200 average (or a 1500 or so average if you use a 3-turn average!), which isn't spectacular.  Cool Boogie deals no damage, so she's relying entirely on her spells (which are very limited) to deal damage here.  Perky Step is better damage (1100 or so), but...only 200 SP.  That's basically 1 more turn of Dragoon, which Tear shouldn't have a problem lasting through.  First Aid is cheap enough to forestall most of what Meru does for damage, and Tear's physicals do regen some TP, so this isn't a losing fight here.  Neat enough fight, but don't think Meru has the resources for it.  Defend is nice, but if she's doing that, Tear's got her on the run. 
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1) - Panties stop the EQ, and a defense boost keeps the physical from being a threat (not that it was much before anyway). 
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4) - Sexilicious.
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. 2-Brad Evans (WA2) - Eh...

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2) - Eh...
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3) - JEWEL SHALL BE AVENGED.
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos) - He's a higher seed, so he has to be better!!!! 
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7) - I...bleh.  Don't see anima as any particular element (since it's a mix of wind, fire, ice, and lightning in FE7), so I don't see a weakness being hit here.  Raja at least has magical resistance.  Granted, this fight takes ages, but Raja might well run Erk out of weapon charges, depending on what he uses.  I'd have to look at it, but...well, 200 fire charges is probably good, but...I suppose eventually sleep hits and lasts long enough for Raja to kick his ass. 

Bonus:

Masked Superheroes vs. Masked Angst - See the Elf.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 05:53:48 PM by OblivionKnight »
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[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Touchdown and Alderaan explodes in the victory

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Raja's Mdef is below average if I'm remembering right. No shields! There's also the fact that Erk's doubling and Raja is also inaccurate to boot.
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Godlike:

KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2) - Random cute comment: If your Indalecio HP respect is low, KOS's XS2 form actually has an argument for taking this (XS2 vs. a winning godlike?!).  Indalecio's Star Flare only 3HKOs average, right?  And KOS is much tankier than the cast (~1.34 PCHP) and has above average magic resist, too.  This means that pre-ToT Indy is arguably 5HKOing here.  Doubling is a mild risk against the quick Indy, but KOS equips the swimsuit and hopes for the best (swimsuit is only bad for physical defense anyway, and KOS's guard is good enough to deal with Divine Wave).  KOS does Stock->Stock->Stock->OHGODTHEPAIN.  If we assume a three turn damage average for XS2, then only 4/7 characters actually have a damage surge on turn 3 thanks to air/ground...  assuming that all character's damage is roughly the same, 7*3 + 5 = 21/25 = "average" damage for an opening XS2 attack is around .84 of normal, or .34 PCHP.  So Break->Air->Two Double Damage Aired hits = 6 * .34 PCHP = 2.04 PCHP.  Okay, that's nowhere near enough for me, but since I know some people disrespect Indy HP, it's an amusing fact nonetheless.  (For that matter, if you disrespect Indy's HP and see him as immune to S-Chain, XS3 form still probably works here - Blood Dancer, chip to near ToT, then unload with best damage tripled thanks to the Dancer.)

Heavy:

Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1) - I don't get the Ultros OHKO hype anywhere.  Is this Ultros's damage vs. the front row?  You should never ever be in the front row in FF6.  At least with Valter, arguably he gets boss HP scaled due to not moving (though even that was shaky since you don't really have Sacred Twin weapons yet).  And anyway Feena probably goes first.

Bonus:
Masked Superheroes vs. Masked Angst

Uh.  Sync's got a mind-control curse rune, but we all know how well these things turn out when you try and use it against true heroes.  On the other hand, these two don't exactly strike me as great at pursuit, so the bad guys probably escape.

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Ah, doubling.  Since Raja isn't subject to EXAs at all, I throw that out (I...didn't mention that - figured it was a given with me >_>).  If a character can't EXA in-game

Raja's actually above (I think...100 to an 80 average or so, if I remember offhand).  HP are shit, though, so his actual durability is bad, but not like the physical durability!  A Phantasm Robe...if you do take EXAs into account, that...still puts Raja at EXA range, I think (40 to a 48 average, or so).  Erk's damage and speed aren't amazing, but should be enough for taking him out like that.
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[19:27] <+Terra_Condor> Han Kicks First?
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[19:27] <%Grefter-game> Touchdown and Alderaan explodes in the victory

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Snowfire: Lete River Ultros (Ultros 1) has ~OHKO damage off of double tentacle to the back row. I generally agree with never, ever being in the front row in FF6. Ultros 2 ignores row by the fact that he's pincered and so row doesn't matter.

The only reason Row matters for Ultros is because people hype form 1 as having double overkill damage.

Godlike:

Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2): Formchain hype! Except form 1 is OHKOd and form 2 is just flat out outclassed.
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2): I think I'll need more definitive information on S-Chain's properties to vote here.
Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6): Esper should have been status immune (grumble)
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC): Arc's problem compared to Elc here? He has ~1/3rd the magic durability and goes second.

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2): Its a grillin time.
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4): Whatever. Edge still offends me.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2): You could hold Saki to the duel v Kurando form!?
Ultros (FF6) vs. 2-Feena (G1): Hell if I know what to think about Ultros.

Middle:

Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA): Though does she get around the healing? Eh.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1): Whatever. I wish all Suikodeners came with Lightning Runes.
Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4): I haven't looked at the numbers but this works.
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. Brad Evans (WA2): I'm less inclined to take Full Clips affect on the damage average literally, since its both OPB, not usable till turn like 3 usually, and not something Ashley even gets a chance to use that often in the DL. This means Brad's Lock On Mini-Scud OHKOs.

Light:

Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2): Buuurp. Copying NEB.
Jewel (S4) vs Estella (S3): I'll just follow Dhyer on this one until I see definitive proof that she lives. Meh. I don't much care here.
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos): Speed hype or something, sure.
Raja (PS4) vs. Erk (FE7): Sadness for Raja losing.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2008, 08:44:58 PM by Cryo »

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Godlike:

Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)- Simple enough. Avalon MAY survive 2 of Lady's turns, but no way am I seeing her die meantime.
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs 3-Indalecio (SO2)- Thinking. GOOD match. KOS-MOS actually having a chance against INDY, of all people.
Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)- Status.
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC)

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2)
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4)
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)- Energy Charge, smites.
Ultros (FF6) vs. Feena (G1)- Weakness? Triple turn? Yeah.

Middle:

Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA)-
Lemme recall the type of fighters these 2 are.
Meru: Blue Element, receives 50% more from Red/Fire damage. Fastest of the PCs. Passable physical damage with a few big shots of magic damage. Good magic durability. HORRIBLE physical durability and HP.
Tear: No element, has Searing Sorrow as a FIRE FoF. Quite fast(If you follow their running speed). Also has passable physical damage with a few big shots of magic damage. Wonderful magical durability. Has passable health and durability.

I allow FoF-cancelling for the TotA PCs, so.... Grand Cross + Searing Sorrow spam.
50% bonus damage on Tear's best physical skill? Hitting Meru, with, by far, WORST HP and physical durability in the team?

I...don't see her getting a second turn to go into Dragoon mode without defending. Defending gives... a miniscule amount of SP, not enough for her to change.
Even if I do, she's forced to heal, or using Blue Sea Dragon to try for the kill. I doubt Tear would die from a single casting of that after a Cool Boogie, so there's that.

If I don't allow FoF-cancelling.... Meru DOES get her second turn to turn into Dragoon form, which should be surviving Tear's physical chain with Searing Sorrow.
Problem is, on the third turn, she's once again stuck between using her heal(and it probably doesn't even recover to full, knowing that she took a hit pre-Dragoon form), or using Blue Sea Dragon to try for the kill, before she turns back.
If she chooses to heal, the battle drags on till one of them runs out of MP, or Tear's Overlimit bar fills completely.
If she chooses to use Blue Sea Dragon, Tear should kill her on the next turn if she survives the hit.

Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)- I don't think Earthquake actually can OHKO Alice here.... and that's pretty much all she needs.
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. Brad Evans (WA2)

Light:

Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)- OH HELL.
Jewel (S4) vs Estella (S3)- See above.
Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)

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Godlike:

Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2): Superior damage output. I have high respect for Avalon's durability, but not enough for him to beat Lady.
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs Indalecio (SO2): KOS-MOS belongs in Heavy.
Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6): Stop Arrow.
Loki (VP1) vs. Arc Eda Ricolne (AtLC): No matter what happens, Super suffers. We all win.

Heavy:

Decus (SO2) vs Lenny Curtis (SH2): Better slugger.
Asellus (SaGa) vs Edge Eblan (FF4): Uncertain. It sounds like she gets away with Mystic Change, though, which///pretty much makes it her fight, if so.
Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2): Better slugger.
Ultros (FF6) vs. Feena (G1): Glad I can't vote on this. Go Not-Ultros, though.

Middle:

Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA): Manages to get into Dragoon form, which gives Tear problems.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1): Think Tengaar just misses the OHKO. That's pretty much the match.
Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4): Urgh. Nikea goes first, but does she get the OHKO? I am uncertain. Probably not, though. Funny how most of Middle comes down to this.
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. Brad Evans (WA2): Echoing the Elf here.

Light:

Viktor (Suikos) vs Freed Yamamoto (S2): Uh.
Jewel (S4) vs Estella (S3): Pretty sure she can chip and keep Jewel heal-locked, and Jewel does not have the spell charges to outlast a mage.
Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos): Not as pathetic. At the very least, you can say Stallion's fast. Balbaroy's bad at everything.
Raja (PS4) vs. Erk (FE7)

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Godlike:

Lady (SH3) vs Avalon (LoL2)
KOS-MOS (XSs) vs Indalecio (SO2)
Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6)

Heavy:

Maya Schroedinger (WA3) vs. Saki Inugami (SH2)
Ultros (FF6) vs. Feena (G1)

Middle:

Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)
Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4)
Fu So Ya (FF4) vs. Brad Evans (WA2)

Light:

Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2)
Jewel (S4) vs Estella (S3)
Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos)
Raja (PS4) vs. Erk (FE7)

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1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA): I don't know, my memories of Meru were not ones of her being able to top Tear.
Tengaar (Suikos) vs Alice Elliot (SH1)
4-Nikea (S5) vs. Hahn Mahlay (PS4): Nikea, I don't see getting a OHKO. Hahn manages, barely.

Light:

1-Viktor (Suikos) Vs Freed Yamamoto (S2): Do I need to say ANYTHING?
Jewel (S4) vs 4-Estella (S3): Has more rune usage.
3-Balbaroy (SF1) vs. Stallion (Suikos): Speed, I guess.
Raja (PS4) vs. 2-Erk (FE7): How. On. EARTH. Did Raja win one? Light this season is sad.

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1-Meru (LoD) vs Tear Grants (TotA - Seconding Elfboy. Meru's durability isn't that goddamn bad especially against a less than stellar physical fighter in the first place. I had more of a problem with Albert + Kongol dying in game than Meru. Speed + healing ftw~ I'm not seeing Tears taking her out take quick especially w/th improved dragoon defences.

In game durability doesn't always translate to DL durability. In game, enemies typically have better magic than physicals (It's not uncommon for bosses to have about triple the magic damage compared to physical damage). When a boss has similar magical and physical damage (take Lloyd), he ends up with a move that does about 80% of Meru's HP on a move that basically tears off only half that compared to the average PC. Meru's takes that much, and Lloyd's physical damage isn't stellar.

If you think despite the Pdur Meru wins this, that's another story. But her Pdurability is pretty atrocious; it's just not hit as hard in game. Also of note, Meru's Magic Durability is also pretty dead average anyways! Dart and Haschel beats her out on that front. Miranda is the magic tank.
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Really?

I remember Dart and Haschel taking more damage from magic myself. Maybe it's just the way I've twinked them. Meru alts between the Rainbow Dress and Blue Sea Armour. Also - die Miranda! Had to be said. I know how awesme W Silver Dragoon though is because I used her my first play since WS was already built up from Shana use and I wanted to stick to a familar team first run. Love the dragoon, hate the character. Shirley <3

I allow the LoD girls dancer's equipment in the DL since it's possible to get three sets in game so perhaps that's why my opinion of them is a little higher of them than others'. To me Meru isn't phail Light, just a ok enough Middle.

Also if Tear is to be allowed elemental resist equipment then I'm going to have to allow Meru to equip Red Eye Stone too (Firebird wasn't optional ... I think) ;p
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Meru's Magic defense is excellent, but her HP is poor so it offsets that, CT.

Most people don't allow elemental resists off of accessories (barring one that is character-specific).

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Meru's barely better than Kongol at taking magic?  That fails. She's still a decent Middle, just somewhat easy to spoil. And yeah, the in game durability thing makes sense. Is there even a boss with decent physicals after Doel?
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Not really, unless you count Lenus 1 double physicals (which, actually, aren't half-bad). Or MELBU 4'S GODLY 4HKO TO AVERAGE PHYSICAL.
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4-Luis Virgil (XS) vs. Terra Branford (FF6): Blargle. Gonna lose to Loki next round anyways, I think?

... that's all I got T_T

Question: Do LoD dragoons become much larger when they transform? How many hits could we justify for Tear's fire elemental Judgment after Meru transforms? Just something to consider, since I'd see Judgment type spells turning someone like Jecht into swiss cheese i.e. 3-4 hits from ToS Judgment.
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