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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #600 on: June 15, 2008, 02:41:34 AM »
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NIGHT ZERO
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1. Meeple - Pokemon Trainer - Watch Ciato - Success, sees Fnorder act on Ciato.
2. Excal - Marth - No Action
3. EvilTom - Link - ROLEBLOCK EPHRAIM - Success (Eph has no action anyhow)
4. Carthrat - Ike - SWAP YAKUMO AND SOPKO - Success
5. Ephraim - Meta-Knight - No action - Is Roleblocked
6. Sopko - Olimar - No action
7. Shale - Mario - No action
8. Strago - Wolf - No action
9. El-Cideon - Falco - Rolecop Shale - Success, returns Squeaky Clean Bulletproof
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Cop Carthrat - Success (insane), returns Scum
11. Andrew - Toon Link - SWAP MEEPLE AND EXCAL - Success
12. Ciato - King Dedede - Use Lip's Stick on Yakumo - Success BUT Redirected to Sopko
13. Fnorder - Ness - Track Ciato - Sees Ciato act on Yakumo
14. QR - Pikachu - No Action
15. Nitori - Snake - Cop Shale - Success (Insane, Squeaky Clean), returns Town
16. Captain K - Manly Pink Luigi - No action
17. Taishyr - Kirby - No action
18. Yakumo - Ganondorf - No action

Day 1 started 2PM Saturday - 5% per three hours

QR Dayvigs Eph
Yakko gets modkilled
Captain K vigs QR and smashes Sopko.

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NIGHT ONE
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1. Meeple - Pokemon Trainer - Watch Excal - Success, sees Nitori take action on Excal
2. Excal - Marth - No Action
3. EvilTom - Link - No Action (daykill was used) - Gets killed
4. Carthrat - Ike - Swap TAISHYR and CAPTAIN K - Fails, Roleblocked by Taishyr
7. Shale - Mario - ????? (Missing forever, modkilled)
8. Strago - Wolf - Nightvig Tom - Success (Tom dies, scum cries, 1 shot used), is gooey bombed
9. El-Cideon - Falco - No Action (daykill was used)
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Investigate Captain K - Success (Insane, no GF), returns town.
11. Andrew - Toon Link - No action (daykill was used)
12. Ciato - King Dedede - Use Gooey Bomb on Strago (Success, technically start of day)
13. Fnorder - Ness - Track Ciato - Success - Sees Ciato take action on Strago
15. Nitori - Snake - Investigate Excal - Success (insane), returns Scum
16. Captain K - Manly Pink Luigi - No action (daykill was used)
17. Taishyr - Kirby - Inhale Rat - Success, roleblocks and jails Rat.

Shale is modkilled
Town lynches Captain K

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NIGHT TWO
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1. Meeple - Pokemon Trainer - Watch Rat, is killed by Andrew
2. Excal - Marth - No Action
4. Carthrat - Ike - Swap CIATO and BARDICHE - Fails, Roleblocked by Bardiche
8. Strago - Wolf - Nightkill Fnorder - Success
9. El-Cideon - Falco - Rolecop Meeple - Success - Returns Watcher
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Investigate Ciato - Success (Insane), returns scum. - Roleblock Rat, success
11. Andrew - Toon Link - Nightkill Meeple - Success
12. Ciato - King Dedede - Use Hammer on Taishyr - Failure (roleblocked), hammer breaks
13. Fnorder - Ness - Track Andrew - Success but is killed by Strago.
15. Nitori - Snake - Investigate Meeple - Success (Insane), returns scum.
17. Taishyr - Kirby - Jail Ciato - Success

Ciato gets lynched.

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NIGHT THREE
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2. Excal - Marth - No Action
4. Carthrat - Ike - Swap BARDICHE and ANDREW - Success
8. Strago - Wolf - Nightkill Andrew - Switched to Nightkill Bardiche - Fails, Bard is jailed
9. El-Cideon - Falco - Rolecop Nitori - Success, returns Cop
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Investigate Andrew - Switched to Bardiche - Fails, Jailed
11. Andrew - Toon Link - Nightkill Nitori - Success, kills.
15. Nitori - Snake - Investigate Andrew - Switched to Bardiche - Returns doesn't matter Nitori dies.
17. Taishyr - Kirby - Jail Andrew - Switched to Bardiche - Successful

Excal gets lynched.

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NIGHT FOUR
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4. Carthrat - Ike - Swap BARDICHE and STRAGO - success
8. Strago - Wolf - No Kill
9. El-Cideon - Falco - Investigate Strago - Bussed to Bardiche - Returns Strago = cop
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Investigate Taishyr - Success (Insane) gets Scum
11. Andrew - Toon Link - Kill Carthrat - Roleblocked
17. Taishyr - Kirby - Jail Andrew

Andrew lynched

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NIGHT FIVE
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4. Carthrat - Ike - Swap Strago and Tai - success
8. Strago - Wolf - Kill Cid - success
9. El-Cideon - Falco - Kill Tai, bussed to Strago, success
10. Bardiche - Jigglypuff - Investigate Strago - fails, jailed
17. Taishyr - Kirby - Jail Bardiche, success

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (Day 5, 6 brawling)
« Reply #601 on: June 15, 2008, 02:41:47 AM »
AHAHAHAHAHA

This game has facepalm written all over it.


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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #602 on: June 15, 2008, 02:42:04 AM »
It's good to know I was mostly right on Bardiche, though! You had me in fits the whole game. >_<
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #603 on: June 15, 2008, 02:43:22 AM »
Oh wait I read Vigilante before Town-Aligned and thought Strago was third party. Never mind.


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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #604 on: June 15, 2008, 02:43:35 AM »
Goddammit. Andy: why did you never take a chance and give me the fucking nightkill? Sorry to sound bitter, but town would've been up the creek without flips.

Yeah, I was the lone scum player. And I thought I was doing pretty damn good at it and I'm vaguely irritated to have been defeated by what amounts to a role puzzle at the end.

For the other scum players: I presume you got the message on day one?

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (Day 5, 6 brawling)
« Reply #605 on: June 15, 2008, 02:45:14 AM »
Ha! Nicely effing played, El Cid. I honestly thought Bardiche was the lone scum and killing you was just culling the herd to push for an easier lynch on him. Ah well. Congrats, town (even though I completely sucked*, personally). Can't wait to see Alex's role/action breakdown and such.

What? Dude, why would you not kill the person you thought was scum?

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #606 on: June 15, 2008, 02:45:37 AM »
Heh, fun game! I was annoyed I didn't get a chance to Triple Finish when I had the chance (for those curious, its equal to 3 Smash Votes in a row, as in, 3 votes on the person, they die if above the threshold, etc.) I was planning on using it on Captain K, but I didn't expect to be taken out so early since...yeah <_<;
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #607 on: June 15, 2008, 02:47:25 AM »
ALSO: let me express my irritation at two out of my four investigation targets being killed the same night, and my first one being mod-killed for inactivity soon after. Aside from the actual debate aspect, this game was a huge headdesk for me. A fun one, but very frustrating near the end. I knew were we fucked once I saw that no one had been killed night four. Immediate assumption was that Andy was blocked and that he'd get lynched for it. Yeah.

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #608 on: June 15, 2008, 02:48:44 AM »
I'm looking forward to seeing the full role layout. Grats Town, I was totally wrong on my hunches- I thought that Ciato and Carth were a scumteam. El-Cid, you were totally off my radar. And I would've caught Andrew that night if Strago hadn't Landmaster'd me off. I had fun watching the madness~

We won, huzzah~

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #609 on: June 15, 2008, 02:48:54 AM »
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What? Dude, why would you not kill the person you thought was scum?

I believe they explained it.  It was kill one, block the other, or vice versa.  Either way, you were kind of screwed.  If they had killed Bard, they'd have seen there was no kill the next night, and you'd be in the same position Andrew was.  Vice versa...well, you saw the results.
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #610 on: June 15, 2008, 02:49:27 AM »
Cid: Because the only thing I knew was that if you took the kill, you lost your power. Unless I totally forgot it, Cappy never mentioned that Alex heavily implied you had a kill power. Therefore, given my natural distrust of the set-up anyway, I felt better taking the kill and leaving you to do whatever. I had no reason TO give you the kill.

And no. I was clueless on who the other scum was. Cappy thought it was Tai, I had no clue.

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #611 on: June 15, 2008, 02:50:41 AM »
So the Miller claim was too convenient, though.

Damn. I think El Cid played damn well, because it was hard to get a case on him much.

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (Day 5, 6 brawling)
« Reply #612 on: June 15, 2008, 02:51:55 AM »
Ha! Nicely effing played, El Cid. I honestly thought Bardiche was the lone scum and killing you was just culling the herd to push for an easier lynch on him. Ah well. Congrats, town (even though I completely sucked*, personally). Can't wait to see Alex's role/action breakdown and such.

What? Dude, why would you not kill the person you thought was scum?

Because I also had a bizarre fear that Bardiche as a lone scum player would have some way to evade my nightkill and we'd be back to square one. With you no longer an option, then we could lynch him confidently. *shrugs*

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« Reply #613 on: June 15, 2008, 02:52:19 AM »
Just to fill people in on my plans:

Squeaky-Clean means I would have returned town to every investigator regardless of sanity or framing. Which would have been interesting, given the wacky cop results.

Poisoning: I act on somebody, and if the attack is successful, they die the following night. Doctor protection on the night when I act stops the kill, but if that hits there's nothing that can keep the target from dying. Would have hopefully made for a very confused doctor and/or bus driver!

Quasi-Sort-Of-Bulletproof: I'm Master Hand, bitches. You can't smash me. I had 300 HP for the game, and voting for me would take off however much HP a vote was worth at the time. The only way to kill me was to reduce my HP to 0 - smashvotes just did damage as normal votes, and nightkills would take off 50 HP. There's no way to heal damage done (including unvoting), but each player only gets to hit me once per day. So I'd really have had to work on keeping my head down.

The idea was to survive into LYLO and then draw a scumhammer, which I would survive. Then I'd claim Metal Mario, and let town mop up the now-obvious scum while I mopped up town. It would've been so cool, too.
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #614 on: June 15, 2008, 02:54:22 AM »
I think Strago's fears were grounded. If I was a Bulletproof Scum...

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #615 on: June 15, 2008, 02:55:37 AM »
Highlights:
- Ciato attempts to vig Tai with the hammer, Tai jails her that night more or less randomly.
- EVERY LIVING PERSON targets Andrew Night 3 except his scumbuddy; both scum target Nitori.  Rat inadvertently throws a wrench on everyone; had he not chosen to bus Andrew night 3, Andrew would have been jailed, no kill, and the events of the last game day would have probably played out much earlier.
- Scum never trust their lone gunman.  They never have much idea who he is either; possibly Captain or Tom did but Andrew told me he was largely clueless all game.
- FIRST PERSON TO CLAIM MILLER IS ALWAYS SCUM.

Town MVP:  Strago.  Spot on both in day and night phases.  Taking out Tom night 1 was a bit lucky, but definitely set the tone of the game, viewing it from a mod's perspective.  Scum really never recovered.
Scum MVP:  Cid.  Played a really solid game and would have almost certainly won if the scum team as a whole hadn't fallen down a slippery slope in the role game. 

I'll give people some time to continue celebrating before a detailed breakdown, feel free to ask questions.

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #616 on: June 15, 2008, 02:58:39 AM »
I blocked Ciato quasi-randomly, quasi-picking up on someone else's suspicion and running with it, but that amounts to the same thing. >_>

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #617 on: June 15, 2008, 02:58:57 AM »
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« Reply #618 on: June 15, 2008, 02:59:38 AM »
Strago was a champ, yes. He is the vigilante to whom other vigilantes aspire.
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #619 on: June 15, 2008, 03:00:37 AM »
I'm curious as if the double-miller-doc thing was intended to screw with metagaming or two bits of random just happened to fall that way?

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« Reply #620 on: June 15, 2008, 03:02:15 AM »
3 scum
1 disconnected scum
1 SK
13 townies

1.  CAPTAIN K - PINK LUIGI - Scum GF + Daykill activator
2.  EVILTOM - LINK - Scum Roleblocker + Governor
3.  ANDREW - TOON LINK - Scum Busdriver
4.  EL CIDEON - FALCO - Disconnected Scum Janitor/Rolecop

5.  SHALE - MARIO/MASTER HAND - SK Poisoner + investigation "immune" + semi-bulletproof

6.  NITORI - SNAKE - Town Insane Cop
7.  BARDICHE - JIGGLYPUFF - Town Insane Cop (knows of disconnected scum)
8.  SOPKO - OLIMAR - Town 50% daysmasher
9.  STRAGO - WOLF - Town Miller Nightvig
10. MEEPLE - POKE TRAINER - Town Watcher
11.  FNORDER - NESS - Town Tracker
12.  TAISHYR - KIRBY - Town Jailer
13.  QUIETRAIN - PICHU - Town Pichu  (daysmasher + can be instakilled)
14.  CIATO - DEDEDE - Town Item Dispenser
15.  EPHRAIM - METAKNIGHT - Town Doctor + Mason
16.  YAKUMO - GANONDORF - Town Naive Doctor + Mason
17.  CARTHRAT - IKE - Town Busdriver (mandatory!)
18.  EXCAL - DISCO MARTH - Town Vanilla

Role list in a nutshell.  Most people full claimed their roles.

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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #621 on: June 15, 2008, 03:03:54 AM »
I just want to clarify why I went for the targets I did.

Night 0: Carthrat, to me, seemed like a damn good player. I wanted that cleared first. Then I saw him as scum, and as I often do I get overzealous with my role and jump at the slightest. If I was paranoid cop, it really fitted with my entire mindset this game. I was paranoid of EVERYONE.
Night 1: Captain K was being suspicious, and I wanted to see what he was. I expected some sort of lynch on him, but decided that if he was Town DayVig I wanted to do what I could to save him. When I saw the situation was unsalvagable, I just decided I should check my sanity with that.
Night 2: Ciato because I already investigated Rat, and Ciato also wanted to hold back. I had no idea why.
Night 3: Andrew because of gutting it. He got Captain K killed, but it almost seemed town cred to me. I mentioned this anyway.
Night 4: Taishyr because I wanted to check my sanity again.
Night 5: Strago because I had to pick something. lol

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« Reply #622 on: June 15, 2008, 03:06:04 AM »
Oh geez, so our other scum player was Cid? >.>
Uninformed majority vs. slightly less uninformed majority.

Cid: I never heard about.. whatever it is you're talking about. As far as I knew, you were just vanilla (disconnected) scum.
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Re: Super Mafia Bros Brawl - Game Topic (GAME OVER)
« Reply #623 on: June 15, 2008, 03:06:33 AM »
Night 0: No target, would interfere with a no-kill 0 which is town-favored.
Night 1: Carthrat since Rat is always evil. Scum, maybe not, evil, yes.
Night 2: Ciato. Quasi-random.
Night 3: Andrew, lurkingish.
Night 4: Andrew, suspected him most after Excal.

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« Reply #624 on: June 15, 2008, 03:06:46 AM »
So the Miller claim was too convenient, though.

Not at all. It was included in my role PM, so I presumed I was intended to make use of it. Since there's no harm in posting it now:

You are Falco, Town Miller!

As the cocky bird from Star Fox, you... oh, heck with it, I'm not working Star Fox plot into this.  You're a furry and that means you return scum to cop investigations.  Sucks, eh?  As you aren't tourney favorite Fox, you have no other major powers.

Minor Power:  Annoying Blaster Spam.  Once per day you may ##Shoot someone with your blaster and deal 1% damage to them.

You win with the town when all threats to the town have been KO'd.

At least, that's what you want them to think.

You are actually Falco, Lone Gunman Scum Rolecop/Janitor!

THIS IS A COMPLEX ROLE.  READ IT CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IT.  ASK THE MOD IF YOU NEED HELP.

Everything in your fake PM above is true.  You return scum to investigations, since you are in fact scum, and you can blaster people for 1%.

You know that the primary scum faction consists of Captain K (Pink Luigi, Godfather and Daykiller), Evil Tom (Link, Roleblocker and oneshot Governor), AndrewRogue (Toon Link, Busdriver), and yourself.  There's one catch, though.

They don't know who you are, and you MAY NOT communicate with them (or anyone else) outside the thread.

Your scumbuddies do know that they have a fourth member out there somewhere, and they know that you know who they are.  They will probably be looking for you and trying to figure out who you are - subtly.  There may or may not be townies that have been alerted to the presence of a disconnected scum in the game, and will be watching for your signaling, so being too obvious about it is quite ill-advised!

If the godfather does not use his daykill power, the scum faction will submit a nightkill and a choice of player to perform it, as usual.  However, your presence changes things up a bit.  You have no input in the decision, UNLESS your buddies choose to send you on the nightkill.  If they choose you to perform the kill, they CANNOT send you a suggestion of whom to kill - the decision will be yours and yours alone.

If you perform the nightkill,  your Janitor power will conceal the alignment and role of the killed player (assuming you are successful, of course).  They will flip as ????-aligned, ???? role.  You and you alone will learn the true details of your victim.

If you are not selected by the other scum to perform the nightkill, you may act as a Rolecop, targeting one player at night and finding out their role name.

Your scumbuddies know that you have powers, but not what your powers are.

You (actually) win with the primary scum faction when all other players have been KO'd or such event is inevitable.

Please respond to this message via PM, IRC, or other medium confirming receipt of your role and giving your night 0 rolecop investigation choice (since no killing roles work night 0).  

Feel free to ask the mod questions anytime.  As mentioned, this is a tough role to play.  Good luck.

It was also implied, via PM from the mod, that my Shoot command would kill QR once she was revealed as Pichu. I was actually going to "accidentally" kill with this day two if the other scum didn't do it first, possibly sacrificing myself to the following suspicion but at least helping the team. Not necessary, as it turned out.

And yeah, I think I'm getting the hang of this scum thing.