Author Topic: Idiot of the Day (Read 254420 times)

Lady Door · « **Reply #950 on:** October 09, 2009, 07:39:31 PM »

Ah. That -is- a tortured analogy. ;)

In a sense, though, that is kind of what Obama is saying in his speech. But if you get at what the awarding committee said for an explanation, they're giving it to Obama because he has inspired, talked to, encouraged and facilitated international community. With that in mind, Obama's speech was a bit demurring. "Oh, yes, thank you, but I can't do it without you all." Of course he can't -- the award was given because what he did was get everyone to work on it together. His award for doing so, the world's award for being encouraged to do so by him. Does that make sense?

In other words, to further slice up your analogy, Obama was the quarterback, but it was -definitely- what he did that earned him the award, not what his people did -- even though he couldn't have won it unless the people responded as he directed/wished/hoped/planned.

Laggy · « **Reply #951 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:17:11 PM »

Probably Greg Mortenson.

That said, I largely agree that people going balls crazy over Obama getting it just baffles me. The president getting the Nobel Peace Prize is not something that warrants criticism of him.

Dunefar · « **Reply #952 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:22:40 PM »

Quote from: Laggy on October 09, 2009, 08:17:11 PM

Probably Greg Mortenson.

That said, I largely agree that people going balls crazy over Obama getting it just baffles me. The president getting the Nobel Peace Prize is not something that warrants criticism of him.

Obama doesn't deserve flak for it. It wasn't his call to make. I don't think he a good choice but if you want to blame anyone, blame the Nobel committee. It's going to make good fodder for the next few days, but there's no helping it.

Laggy · « **Reply #953 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:25:57 PM »

There's a valid argument to be made that they've made his job harder (since while it rallies the international community around him - which, really, he already had and didn't need more of, it polarizes his detractors even more, and that's not what he needs right now.)

So... yeah, :psyduck: is about the general feeling there.

Dunefar · « **Reply #954 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:31:01 PM »

Quote from: Laggy on October 09, 2009, 08:25:57 PM

There's a valid argument to be made that they've made his job harder (since while it rallies the international community around him - which, really, he already had and didn't need more of, it polarizes his detractors even more, and that's not what he needs right now.)

So... yeah, :psyduck: is about the general feeling there.

Basically. I already heard someone call it 'European socialists giving an American communist a wankoff' with a totally straight face. It's not going to do much but hurt him a touch at home.

Also, as an aside, I find this interesting: The nomination deadline of February 1 was less than two weeks after Obama's inauguration as the President. That's going to go over real well when people pick up on it.

Ultradude · « **Reply #955 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:34:51 PM »

Quote from: Dunefar on October 09, 2009, 08:22:40 PM

Obama doesn't deserve flak for it. It wasn't his call to make. I don't think he a good choice but if you want to blame anyone, blame the Nobel committee. It's going to make good fodder for the next few days, but there's no helping it.

Quote from: Dunefar on October 09, 2009, 08:31:01 PM

Also, as an aside, I find this interesting: The nomination deadline of February 1 was less than two weeks after Obama's inauguration as the President. That's going to go over real well when people pick up on it.

Quote from: Laggy on October 09, 2009, 08:25:57 PM

There's a valid argument to be made that they've made his job harder (since while it rallies the international community around him - which, really, he already had and didn't need more of, it polarizes his detractors even more, and that's not what he needs right now.)

So... yeah, :psyduck: is about the general feeling there.

I'll further clarify that yeah, I'm referring to the committee going out of their way for this. Obama himself... nothing IotD material yet.

Lady Door · « **Reply #956 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:40:34 PM »

On the note about nominations: Yes, it was shortly after his inauguration. But recall that the President had to get elected, and he ran on the same platform he's running now. He's in a position to do something about what he's been talking about now, but the award is partially in honor of the efforts and his vision, both of which he has gotten huge, international response from. He's been doing that since his campaign really gathered steam.

And I'll point out the nominations may come in that early, but the discussion on whom to choose goes right up into October. So.

(And also, plenty of people have picked up on it. Believe me. Detractors are milking that for all it's worth.)

Cotigo · « **Reply #957 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:53:49 PM »

This is especially not a big deal, because if you think about it, all it means is a bunch of Europeans like Obama.

HOLY SHIT WHAT.

NotMiki · « **Reply #958 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:08:10 PM »

Quote from: Makkotah on October 09, 2009, 08:53:49 PM

This is especially not a big deal, because if you think about it, all it means is a bunch of Europeans like Obama.

So this is like his consolation prize for the Olympics?

Also, the hits just keep on coming!

NHL Awards Lady Byng Trophy to Obama
http://open.salon.com/blog/con_chapman/2009/10/09/nhl_awards_lady_byng_trophy_to_obama/

Traditionalists groused that Obama should not receive the award because he doesn't know the basic but somewhat complicated rules of the game, such as icing, but Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel disagreed. "Let me give you two good reasons why the President deserves this trophy," he said. "First, nobody understands icing, and second, blow it out your shorts."

Dunefar · « **Reply #959 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:15:16 PM »

They have a point. Who the fuck understands icing?

Shale · « **Reply #960 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:57:41 PM »

Pastry chefs?

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #961 on:** October 09, 2009, 11:01:29 PM »

Not on average, sadly.

Hunter Sopko · « **Reply #962 on:** October 10, 2009, 12:23:32 AM »

My favorite line of the article is:

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It is considered the hockey equivalent of the Nobel Peace Prize, and past winners have included Stan Mikita of the Chicago Blackhawks, Obama's home team, and Henry Kissinger of the Washington Capitals.

Grefter · « **Reply #963 on:** October 10, 2009, 01:19:56 AM »

Quote from: Dunefar on October 09, 2009, 08:31:01 PM

Basically. I already heard someone call it 'European socialists giving an American communist a wankoff' with a totally straight face. It's not going to do much but hurt him a touch at home.

There is something very wrong with your people if shit like that gets done without a sense of irony. LD covered everything pretty well. Is no worse than Henry Kissinger getting it. HENRY. FUCKING. KISSINGER. As much as I love the man, a positive agent for peace all the world over the man is not. (He may bring peace, but it is a final one).

Ultradude · « **Reply #964 on:** October 10, 2009, 02:59:42 PM »

Changing IotD to the Peace Prize in general now?

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #965 on:** October 10, 2009, 03:12:59 PM »

More like to the people throwing a massive hissy fit about it.

Grefter · « **Reply #966 on:** October 10, 2009, 03:15:48 PM »

Nonono, the thing is, the year Kissinger got the award he totally deserved it and while his methods are brutally effective, Kissinger is fairly positive overall with what seem to be his goals.

Yoshiken · « **Reply #967 on:** October 12, 2009, 07:44:14 PM »

Simple, plain stupidity, just to break away from the whole political thing.

http://20.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krd41peOjB1qzpwi0o1_500.png

As the person who linked me to this put it: "Proof that Yahoo! Answers is the second dumbest place on the internet. With YouTube comments taking first."

superaielman · « **Reply #968 on:** October 12, 2009, 07:53:33 PM »

That response is great.

Bardiche · « **Reply #969 on:** October 12, 2009, 10:15:23 PM »

Oops...

Basically: two dumbarses mess with the wrong crossdressers. Facepalmed so hard. The video at the bottom is... Ow.

Shale · « **Reply #970 on:** October 12, 2009, 10:46:20 PM »

I'm just confused about how two random drunk guys managed to run into two cross-dressing cage-fighters and a guy in a Spider-Man outfit in one night.

Bardiche · « **Reply #971 on:** October 12, 2009, 11:23:48 PM »

It's England.

Shale · « **Reply #972 on:** October 12, 2009, 11:34:36 PM »

Fair point.

Yoshiken · « **Reply #973 on:** October 12, 2009, 11:55:20 PM »

...In which case, I'm now wondering why I've never seen someone dressed as Spider-Man or cross-dressing cage fighters.
...I'm also pretty disappointed that I haven't...

Taishyr · « **Reply #974 on:** October 13, 2009, 12:05:30 AM »

They run in fear from you.

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