Before I say anything, I feel it is my duty as a player of this game to say this:
NOTE TO THE MOD: The Vote Count is done awkwardly. You have me listed twice, with 2 separate sets of votes. The people voting are correct, mind, but if you can, please just merge them into one, so its not misleading regarding where votes are.
Ok, that aside...
Andrew's still not contributing in his posts, I feel. You claim you are trying to do what you can, but...I don't see you really doing all that much to help in the discussion, be it make an actual case on someone else, weigh in on the discussion, etc. This is part of why my vote is on you, and one of the reasons its staying. As I said, I also felt your vote on Snow, which you only removed after I brought it up, didn't say really anything. Others voting Snow have voiced their opinions, brought up cases (do I agree with them? Not entirely, but they're there), admittedly, Excal did it for reasons before Snow's actions, but still, he brought forth a case nonetheless.
You're still talking about game theory more than anything else, I feel. Again, you can blame RL issues as a reason to not post, but its not an excuse to post stuff with minimal content.
To Bard: Ok, thanks for clarifying why my defense on Shale seemed weird. It...yeah, I did go overboard, but as I said, I was a bit paranoid that if I wasn't so specific, something would seem off...looks like the complete opposite happened.
...perhaps from now on, I should work on the OPPOSITE of what I think is a good idea, since doing what I think is good tends to backfire horribly <.<;
(obviously, I'm not being serious there.)
To Tai:
First off, the Eviltom thing was cause everyone found his actions weird. People were wondering if he was a Jester, Zombie, etc. and trying to get himself lynched. I was merely tossing another idea on the table that Eviltom might be a Bomb, and trying to NOT get lynched for the sake of everyone (or alternatively, a scum bomb, but all this speculation is meaningless now that we know what Tom is.) I ended it with a mechanics question cause I really don't know how Bombs usually work. In any event, I wasn't the only one who found Tom's claim of "do not lynch me, it is useless!" weird, and I was trying to find sense in it, and toss something that wasn't considered. That's all.
Rat...was me thinking out loud. To clarify, Rat said he couldn't vote. This naturally is weird since a voteless player is...weird, without a power role. So I was trying to work some possibilities out. ADMITTEDLY, I didn't get anywhere, just went in a circle, and the analysis kind of ended up being fruitless.
Also, Tai, just cause this is SUICIDE SQUAD doesn't mean you have to be EMO about it! <_< >_>
To Cor:
I took to it cause, well, it felt like you were saying I did something that I didn't.
Also, I'm not saying "don't hunt scum!" I'm trying to say "Don't jump the gun, and focus on minor details!" That's what people were doing. Shale's one line...felt like a minor point, and he was getting actual flack (and more or less a vote based entirely on that.) Scum love to attack minor details like that, and watch Town get caught up in it. I was trying to avoid it. My issue wasn't that I felt Shale was town, but rather, his actions were being overemphasized.
Anyway, thanks for the clarification in any event.
To Snow:
First off, while I understand your position, outbursts like that never look good. If you're really feeling frustrated, its best to not say something like that all, and keep it to yourself (and possibly take it out on inanimate objects near bye! <.<; )
Something does stand out to me...unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by this line:
And, come to think of it, Meeple never really clearly backed up what made him wary about Shale - Corwin did it instead, and is using it as ammo against mainly Meeple (?)
All I said was, I believe, that Shale "was not necessarily a town" after my defense. I never said I was specifically suspicious. I am not really getting much of a read on him. He hasn't done anything to make him look particularly good...but at the same time, hasn't raised any red flags. My defense, as I keep repeating and I know I sound like a broken record, was cause I felt the cases held on him weren't holding much water and wanted to weigh in on it.
Thinking Cases made on someone = bad =/= you think this person is a townie. Similarly, saying you aren't trying to paint someone as a townie does not necessarily mean you are suspicious. Shale's in a pretty grey area overall.
Unfortunately, its hard to really get anywhere when there's a lot of people who are absent this weekend (Damned its timing!) I'd like to hear from some of them.