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« Reply #1950 on: September 18, 2013, 02:58:19 AM »
World War Z- As bad as I was expecting. I don't even really blame Pitt, the concept of turning WWZ into a movie was doomed from the start. It's pretty clear from all the dropped plotlines and hints that the script had been rewritten more than once. Also a lot of the violence was just not relevant to the movie (Seriously, did we need the one Israeli soldier's hand cut off? Also the scene with the teeth pulling was awful).
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« Reply #1951 on: September 18, 2013, 03:02:11 AM »
Better or worse Teeth scene than Oldboy?

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Bro, do you even zombie movie?
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« Reply #1952 on: September 18, 2013, 03:11:32 AM »
Adjustment Bureau would be the movie I watched on the plane the year it came out and was baffled why they marketed it as a romance movie with action.  When it is really a movie about predestination VS free will and both romance and action are kind of incidental.

Fucking rad movie though, I do need to get around to reading the Dick story.  One of the more quality Dick adaptations.

It's a movie about a lot of things really, but a substantive and quintessential love story is easy to parse out. Uses that thing called mise en scène to use tropes of how cinematic love stories have appeared, while literalizing the whole meaning of fate and love. It's a good movie, yeah.

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« Reply #1953 on: September 18, 2013, 03:23:55 AM »
Well if you want to put it intelligently instead of making jokes I guess that is one way of saying it.

You done A Scanner Darkly yet Dunie?  Not romance, but another Phillip K Dick adaptation that is fantastic.
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« Reply #1954 on: September 18, 2013, 03:34:06 AM »
(: You so silly.

Scanner's the film that looks cel-shaded or whatever the description was for the art style in Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter? I haven't seen it, actually. I remember wanting to years ago. Let me know this. Is the novel significantly better than the film? I have one book for personal enjoyment, but I need another one. ASD isn't on Netflix it seems. (My current book is Connolly's Viva La Madness)

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« Reply #1955 on: September 18, 2013, 03:40:31 AM »
That is indeed the one.  Scanner Darkly is a fairly short story (200 pages), so it won't last long, but I haven't read it either (I am terrible really).

No matter how good the book is it won't have Robert Downey Jr in it though, so movie is 10/10 watch instead in my mind. 

If you do want some Dick recommendations that are stories better than the movie then I would go with Minority Report because that movie suuuuuuucked.  Sopko would also point you towards The Zap Gun and I would be remiss not to give it a nod as well.
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« Reply #1956 on: September 18, 2013, 03:43:33 AM »
Better or worse Teeth scene than Oldboy?

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Bro, do you even zombie movie?

Never seen Oldboy. Character spends a minute pulling out one of his teeth for absolutely no reason on camera. It's one of those scenes that makes me think the movie was veering towards an R rating at first before they went PG-13 for sales reasons.
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« Reply #1957 on: September 18, 2013, 03:44:56 AM »
Wait it is an overly violent PG Zombie flick?  I am getting conflicted messages here.

Not as good as Oldboy then.  You should watch Oldboy.
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« Reply #1958 on: September 18, 2013, 03:59:39 AM »
Oldboy isn't a zombie film. Did you just recently watch it?

If he watches Oldboy, he certainly should watch Ichi the Killer in the same day.

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« Reply #1959 on: September 18, 2013, 04:10:18 AM »
Oldboy isn't a Zombie movie (watched it years ago and will probably never watch it again), but it is a great movie with a good scene with teeth.

Also a good piece of advice there.
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« Reply #1960 on: September 18, 2013, 05:58:59 AM »
Yeah, I try to suppress any inclination to remember Oldboy. I am satisfied having watched it once (maybe 2 years ago) and knowing it was pretty damn good.

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« Reply #1961 on: September 28, 2013, 03:46:31 PM »
Skyfall: It's James Bond, so yeah, fun stuff.
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« Reply #1962 on: September 28, 2013, 11:01:35 PM »
World War Z can't possibly be worse than the Apocalypse Z movie I downloaded thinking that would be the Brad Pitt zombie movie but it wasn't since I didn't quite remember the name right  :P

Also Evil Dead remake and Amityville Asylum :(
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« Reply #1963 on: September 29, 2013, 01:37:48 AM »
Probably from these guys:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Asylum

Read an article in Forbes about them; they're making beaucoup bucks surprisingly enough.

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« Reply #1964 on: September 29, 2013, 02:54:23 AM »
The World's End: :D

You will probably enjoy if you liked Hot Fuzz (might give it a go if you enjoyed Shaun of the Dead, too). It's action-y goodness packed full of British irreverence. Absolutely LOVED Pegg's character, and while the ending was kind of bizarre I can't say I'm too shocked that it was. Loads of fun to watch. Glad I caught it before it left theaters.
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« Reply #1965 on: October 07, 2013, 07:08:01 PM »
World War Z can't possibly be worse than the Apocalypse Z movie I downloaded thinking that would be the Brad Pitt zombie movie but it wasn't since I didn't quite remember the name right  :P

Also Evil Dead remake and Amityville Asylum :(

I don't know, World War Z is pretty bad.  But in a different way.  World War Z is an obvious Frankenstein's Monster of a movie to the point where as Asylum movies are usually bad, but at least they're tonally consistent.

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« Reply #1966 on: November 02, 2013, 08:22:38 AM »
Saw Ender's Game (in IMAX but not 3D).

Loved it.

Couldn't disagree more with most of the naysayers. In fact, I have a hard time arguing with them - but mostly because their points seem to have nothing to do with having seen the movie and a lot more to do with it "being a bad action movie" or "something something video games something violence something", i.e., totally missing the boat and judging the race by the breeze.

Anyway, I have a very complicated relationship with the source material. I frankly didn't judge the book as an adaptation so much as an "inspired by" distillation. On that level, I think it absolutely succeeded. You will be disappointed if you go in expecting to see everything in the book represented visually; in fact, there are distinct changes in timing and characterization.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed it as its own thing with similar values and conceits.

So yeah. Fuck you, Rotten Tomatoes 66%.
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« Reply #1967 on: November 02, 2013, 02:05:27 PM »
Wreck It Ralph: Finally saw this.  Good stuff.  Not WOMG AMAZING or anything, but good enough for what it is.
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« Reply #1968 on: November 03, 2013, 12:42:27 AM »
Given that it is metadata and Film critics tend to use the full scale a 66% isn't terrible...  That is why it still gets the "fresh" icon.  Looking at the front page at the moment there is a lot of stuff that is rating really high at the moment that disagree with my statement, but it is also the time of year that a ton of good shit tends to come out for Award baiting purposes.
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« Reply #1969 on: November 03, 2013, 01:41:47 AM »
Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters:  Fun movie.  Considerably better than the first one.

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« Reply #1970 on: November 05, 2013, 11:54:55 PM »
Ender's Game: It was okay, I guess. Not good, not bad. It worked though. I was entertained at least! It does stand alone as a movie, but it definitely feels rushed, even apart from the source material. Things move at such a pace that you lack the time to build up empathy with any of the characters, and it also results in very iffy cohesion in many parts. Once they get to Command School, things are kinda alright, but the very end was... not the wrong choice, but poorly done. Together with the accelerated timeline (it's shown that the entire movie once they get to Battle School happens inside a month), it opens up a plot hole a mile wide that the bugs would have to be precognizant in order to install that on the planet, instead of it being done in the weeks/months/years Ender was playing the Mind Game/fighting them.

As an adaptation, most of the streamlining done definitely works. They chose most of the right parts to cut (Locke/Demosthenes), the characters are condensed more or less as they should have been (sans Bonzo for some reason being in Rose the Nose's body).

On the negative, they really suffered from a Tell, Don't Show in terms of Ender's empathy with the enemy. It's harped on constantly but they really don't do a good job of SHOWING it ever, making the last scene even sillier than it already was. Also, the use of certain verbatim lines from the book entirely takes you out of the movie sometimes from how awkward they end up sounding. They did a good job mostly with the isolation aspect, but it should have been played up more. He recovered too fast, too easily, like an afterschool special. If I could add one scene, it'd possibly be playing out the whole part where Dap yells at the rest of the Launchies for not opening their lockers yet, just to twist the knife and underline the staff's attempt to isolate him. Other than that, maybe even one line with Ender explaining to Petra why Bonzo beating him up on him for saving his ass was stupid, just to show the audience his understanding of command. Small bits and pieces, but they would have helped. Gotta rush through. LotR can be 3 hours, but this had to fit under 2 for some reason...

On the nitpicky side, I think the Salamander ambush fight and the two army fight should have been split into two separate scenes (as a part of extending the movie). It was done well enough, but doing them both and showing them on the same day like they are in the book would have played up the unfairness and exhaustion factors. Also, the fact they Million Dollar Baby'd Bonzo was hilarious, as was Bernard ending up in Ender's jeesh. On the one hand, it shows Ender's such a good commander that he can make use of even a terrible soldier like Bernard, also saving the introduction of another character! On the other, it's... just kinda hilarious knowing the source material, which is why this is in the nitpicky section rather than Negative.


If nothing else though, it made me believe an Ender's Game movie was genuinely possible. There are some actual problems with the movie, but most of my complaints are nitpicky at best. They definitely hit the board, but they missed the bullseye.
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« Reply #1971 on: November 06, 2013, 01:36:13 AM »
Taken 1 and 2: marathoned these. I expect Taken 3 to be Albania declaring war on Liam Neeson's family.
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« Reply #1972 on: November 07, 2013, 01:44:05 PM »
Aliens: Saw it at the Alamo. This is one of the movies that will never, ever get old for me, and watching it in a theater was great. Hopefully they'll get Alien sometime.
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« Reply #1973 on: November 07, 2013, 02:53:58 PM »
Saw 12 Years a Slave (btw, these weird theatres with vodka alcohol are pretty cool).

I love Steve McQueen. I love Paul Dano. I love Benedict Cumberbatch. I am in heads over heels love with Michael Fassbender, I love seeing new actors/resses; I don't -love- this film, but I adore every single aspect about it. I won't deny that I did not project - I can't help not, especially when white people peer over towards me and my company at pretty emotional scenes.

However, I can say that this is a film that is very much of its time. By that I mean despite using Solomon Noethup's incredible book as the fulcrum, finally we have a slave film that grants humanity and interiority to almost every single character, black and white. Steve McQueen is great at that. I've seen all the other slave films (except Django, which I'll see later), but too often is the drama itself the focus of each and every scene. Going to see it again today with a class, this time missing my previous company. . .

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« Reply #1974 on: November 08, 2013, 07:27:54 AM »
Thor 2: WHOO HOO! THORGASM!

Loki is more fun in this one than in anything else. Perhaps more predictable but a lot more charming. Take that as you will.

Thor is no longer a douchebag. Whether this makes him more likeable or more boring is up for interpretation but I liked him more and actually found myself invested in the story more than the first movie.

Story is more or less just kinda there. No big twists or surprises, but some really creative action scenes, particularly at the climax. Thor's Mom is also Badass.

Good adrenaline rush movie. Not much time for pondering or caring beyond the romantic scenes, oddly enough, but it works! I like to see superheroes being a little more lighthearted instead of the constant grimdark stuff we'd been getting. It strikes a good balance of fun and focused narrative. I personally like it a hell of a lot more than the first one, despite the first one having a lot more shirtless Chris Hemmsworth, so that should say something.

Warning: NOT AS GOOD AS IRON MAN 3 OR AVENGERS BY A LONG SHOT!

I'd peg it at roughly Iron Man 2 level? Probably a bit better? Opinion could change after some downtime and the adrenaline rush fades.

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I... think that gets all the Marvel movies since Spiderman? I'm sure Meeple will correct me.