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« Reply #2000 on: November 23, 2013, 11:38:17 PM »
Thor Dark World:  I really, really enjoyed this.  It's a different feeling than Iron Man/Avengers.  I just love the set pieces, costumes, and general artistry of the whole thing.  Would have liked some more done with Sif vs. Jane, but that's a minor quibble.  Beautiful movie.

I feel the ending has more to do with Thanos than GotG.  They're setting up some version of Thanos Quest/Infinity Gauntlet.

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« Reply #2001 on: November 24, 2013, 02:27:32 AM »
Said character was confirmed to be appearing in GotG, and that scene was directed by the same guy who is directing GotG, not to mention GotG was confirmed to deal more with Thanos on top of all that; pretty clearly meant to be a precursor to GotG more so than anything else.

That said, speaking of Space stuff...

Doctor Who (96 movie): I watched this because I wanted to kill some time and it was like 2 hours before the 50th Anniversary Special, so said why not?  How bad can it be?

...possibly one of the most boring things ever.  It can be summed up as "a whole lot of nothing happens."  Not to mention I can see why it'd piss hardcore fans off since it makes blatant claims about the Doctor that just spit in the face of the lore ("He's half human!"  wait what?), thankfully a number of those things seem to be ignored (though the 8th Doctor is still considered canon.)

Kicker is the movie is only about an hour and a half long, so it's not like they needed to stretch for time or anything, just nothing really happens.

(yes, I am aware the old series was notably different stylistically than the new series, but it seems the movie falls somewhere in between in a bad way)
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« Reply #2002 on: November 24, 2013, 07:11:06 AM »
Fans hate the movie primarily because it is just shit.  Doctor Who canon is pretty flexible by nature.
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« Reply #2003 on: November 24, 2013, 03:29:45 PM »
Well, it's not just shitty, it's boring shit, which is the worst kind of shit.  You can't really rage at it because it doesn't do anything wrong enough to piss you off, lacks anything worth mocking, has no "So Bad Its Good" qualities to it, just a complete and utter bore.

Heck, Mandy, 2/3rds of the way into the movie, went "I kind of don't want to finish this..." and told her if she doesn't, she should just leave...and she did.
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« Reply #2004 on: November 26, 2013, 03:30:58 AM »
Doctor Who: Day of the Doctor

Hey, I saw it in a theater. IIIIIN THREEEEEE DEEEEEE. So it counts.

Anyway, John Hurt was amazing, the script was mostly great, the fanservice nods got me right in the nerd-heart, just a great special overall. Well, mostly. It goes out of its way to pretend The End Of Time never happened, which took some serious effort to look past and really got in the way of the climax because I had to consciously ignore the giant contradiction with Tennant's finale. But then there was the ending scene and it was awesome, so I mostly forgive it.

(Worst part was the 3D itself. Ugh. I've never worn one of those stupid polarized glasses before and I never will again. Almost left five minutes in, but luckily my stomach settled. The whole thing was still a blurry mess half the time and the fancy effects were never justified.)
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« Reply #2005 on: November 26, 2013, 05:10:07 AM »
Watching End of Time again, it actually doesn't contradict the climax that much (in fact, they showed End of Time RIGHT AFTER the 50th Anniversary.) The 10th acknowledges Timelocks exist earlier in the episode, and we can assume he's tried to save Gallifrey before (in fact, in earlier episodes he's stated he tried and knows its impossible), and this is how he knows Gallifrey is Timelocked (despite the ending claim of "we forget this entirely.")  End of Time doesn't actually say "Gallifrey is destroyed", just it's sent back into the Timelock.  Now, however, the 11th knows how it got Timelocked, and thus possibly can find a way to break the lock later on.

Chances are it'll never be undone, granted, because that's kind of the hook of the new series (last Timelord, yada yada yada.)  It works as an explanation given the massive elastic rules Doctor Who works on, or alternatively, "Time can be re-written" is kind of a consistently stated scenario, and the 10th openly states the oddity of the scenario in question and how something external must be letting them do it.


Oh, if we're counting specials like that, might as well mentioned I saw "Time and Space" special the night before, aka "Reinactment of the behind the scenes look to the William Hartnell Era of Doctor Who."

Dunno how much of that was real and how much of that was made up just to make the thing more interesting (obviously, even the real stuff would have some embellishment just to make it more interesting), though from what I understand it was a relatively accurate portrayal of how Hartnell actually felt in the situation.  Guess it's kind of neat to see interpretation of what actually happened to get the show off the ground, and somehow I don't think William Hartnell saw Matt Smith, dressed as the 11th Doctor, as he was leaving the set for the last time...just a hunch <_<
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« Reply #2006 on: November 26, 2013, 06:02:01 PM »
Day of the Doctor: Counting it on the same logic as Shale.

Yeah, solid all around. Works as a hook for next season. Moffat is just a better single story writer than a full arc writer.

On-screen chemistry was great. Plot was acceptable. Just generally solid. A little bummed Eccleston didn't reprise at all, but, ultimately, it is better. The 9th had and finished his story arc which wouldn't have sat well against this story.

Blows to be the 11th, though. So full of hope, then Christmas Special will happen.

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« Reply #2007 on: November 26, 2013, 08:30:27 PM »
Although at the same time, Eccleston's stock footage put in a better performance than the last film he was in!
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« Reply #2008 on: November 26, 2013, 11:17:05 PM »
Eh. He was fine in Dark World. He really wasn't given anything to work with there.

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« Reply #2009 on: November 27, 2013, 02:36:15 AM »
The stock footage of Eccleston was still better usage of him than Malakith was.  The 9th Doctor was just straight up better than "I'm the bad guy, fear my generic motives!"  That wasn't his fault because yeah, nothing to work with, but still superior usage nonetheless.
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« Reply #2010 on: November 29, 2013, 08:40:44 PM »
So I saw Hunger Games: Catching Fire.

It is kinda slow, but I enjoyed the character back-and-forth where it existed. I also liked the subtle prod at Twilight with the whole "what's your favorite color?" scene. I dunno if that was in the original book, but I'm at the point where I realize all Hunger Games needs to make money is "to be better than Twilight" and it succeeds at that! Katniss isn't the world's best female protagonist like people keep talking about, but she's serviceable and the story is interesting enough, though predictable.

The last hour was action-packed enough that spectacle overtook my critical side and I just enjoyed it, so that's worthy of something. I will continue to give it $10 in two years when the next one comes out I guess.

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« Reply #2011 on: December 01, 2013, 12:19:06 AM »
Resident Evil Retribution: Zombie bikers with machine guns.  President Wesker, savior of humanity. Oh man, does the badness snowball with this film. I straight up can't wait for the final movie in this series. RE movies keep getting worse somehow, it's amazing.
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« Reply #2012 on: December 01, 2013, 01:27:17 AM »
So I saw Hunger Games: Catching Fire.

It is kinda slow, but I enjoyed the character back-and-forth where it existed. I also liked the subtle prod at Twilight with the whole "what's your favorite color?" scene. I dunno if that was in the original book, but I'm at the point where I realize all Hunger Games needs to make money is "to be better than Twilight" and it succeeds at that! Katniss isn't the world's best female protagonist like people keep talking about, but she's serviceable and the story is interesting enough, though predictable.

The last hour was action-packed enough that spectacle overtook my critical side and I just enjoyed it, so that's worthy of something. I will continue to give it $10 in two years when the next one comes out I guess.


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« Reply #2013 on: December 01, 2013, 06:03:14 PM »
CF was the best Hunger Games book by far (I'd go as far to say the only actually good one), and it easily outdid the first movie as well. The first one didn't quite live up to its reputation and is fairly tame and septic with its brutality, the third is just.... bonkers for many reasons and ends terribly in a way that really showcased the writer's shortcomings, but CF was genuinely entertaining.

Also, can't go wrong with Phillip Seymour Hoffman in anything.

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« Reply #2014 on: December 02, 2013, 10:54:37 PM »
Conan the Barbarian (2011): I was in the mood for dumb hack and slash. I wasn't expecting anything quality from this and it somehow still managed to be a disappointment. It's impossible not to compare it to the 80's version (of which I am very fond), which is possibly not fair but does highlight how inept a production this was. It takes forfreakingever for there to be an adult, ass-kicking Conan onscreen. It felt like half an hour for that introduction! The original spent at most half the time and about 20% the dialogue on this and was better for it. Man it's not like Arnold could act either but at least they recognized that and barely had him talk. There's plenty of talking here and it's basically all terrible (three screenwriters and none of them can field a decent one-liner). But mostly I credit the director for the movie's suckage. Almost every fight scene occurs in narrow quarters that don't allow for proper setpiece battles; action sequences are cramped, cluttered, and sometimes too full of rapid-fire cuts (the plague of modern action movies). All the actors look bored. Even Ron Perlman. I mean geez we had a better female lead in the original and that was in the eighties and Sandahl Bergman wasn't even an actress! Also I still have no idea why the final dungeon self-destructed, that's supposed to happen after the villain dies people.

And most criminally, the music is not remotely tuneful. Contemplate this on the tree of woe!

But hey, the credits included a listing for "Topless Wenches," so that's something. You can't have a proper Conan movie without boobs.

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Pacific Rim: It was okay. Kind of fun as a love letter to Godzilla movies and the like, can't imagine it being much to note without some nostalgia to lean on though.

Speaking of kaiju: Meeple, did I ever toss Big Man Japan at you when I watched it a while back? Meant to recommend that, think I forgot. It's pretty special. I kinda get the impression this is what Christopher Guest would produce were he Japanese. Mockumentary about a professional kaiju fighter. Camera crew follows him around during his ordinary daily life--separated from his wife, daughter thinks he's a bum, hippies throw rocks through his window because his transformation sequence gobbles up too much electricity and scares off the local wildlife--and occasionally MONSTER ATTACK and the producers are enough into the material to have considered the logistics of giant person underwear. Then either the protagonist or the movie itself goes totally insane (I'm still not sure which) and the finale kind of defies verbal description.

I think it's basically just a decent movie that gains a lot from shared fondness for the subject matter, hence recommendation. Effects are a bit squiffy, but given the subject matter that may be appropriate.

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« Reply #2015 on: December 03, 2013, 01:13:34 AM »
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« Reply #2016 on: December 03, 2013, 07:49:50 PM »
so DVD reviews...

2 Guns: Was pretty action packed. I liked the humor being chucked out between Mark and Denzel. It was truly a good film, and I didn't expect a part in the middle of the movie, but it made that part all the more interesting at the end. I really can't say much given the previews don't give it much justice. And the best part (or rotten part) is that this movie was based on a comic book, so YAY! Edit Addition: For Thanksgiving, I had mother watch this movie. She tends to watch movies twice if she likes it. This was one of those movies, though if it was because it was an action movie (which she likes) or if it's because it's Denzel (one of her favorite actors) is up for debate.

Red 2: I almost finished this movie. It's not as good as the first one. I sat through the first movie with no issues. But I like it, but my TV speakers started to break during the movie, so I was going to finish it in the living room. I promptly forgot I still had the Dark Shadows movie in my PS3, so I didn't finish Red 2 yet. But I do have to admit, I love the way everyone was backstabbing each other in the movie. I'll probably have more once I finish the movie.
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« Reply #2017 on: December 13, 2013, 10:54:08 PM »
The Hobbit 2: It's fun.  The random crap they made up to stretch this out to 3 movies wasn't too bad, actually, if you don't mind awesome-yet-ludicrous set-piece encounters that feel like they were conveniently designed for an action RPG.  So sure, it gets a thumbs up.  That said, 3 minor nitpicks and 1 problem that is probably unavoidable but a problem nevertheless:
* They're working Sauron in a lot more than I expected.  I thought that Gandalf only really figured out Sauron was back and a threat at the beginning of LOTR?  Sure, he suspected earlier, but he didn't have any proof for Saruman or whatever.
* They played Smaug more for menace than comedy than I expected.  It's been ages since I read the book but Smaug was actually rather entertaining to my recollection, but that aspect was somewhat played down.
* Okay, it was just a throwaway line, but... did somebody seriously mention an election?!  In Tolkien's uber-royalist world and viewpoint?  wat.
* Just like Hobbit 1, there isn't a damn ending, the movie just stops.  As noted above, it isn't clear they can get around this without mauling the story, so it's probably unavoidable, but it definitely feels more like a miniseries episode than a stand-alone movie.  (Each of the LOTR movies can stand on their own to a degree, which is not a shock, as they were actually separate books and usually something interesting happened at the end of them even as they set up the next book/movie.)

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« Reply #2018 on: December 14, 2013, 10:08:49 AM »
Obligatory statement that Tolkein wanted LOTR to be one book and it was the publisher who decreed otherwise (if memory serves).

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« Reply #2019 on: December 14, 2013, 12:01:03 PM »
I would believe Tolkien would want the book to be as unreadable as possible.  There is a reason there is editors.  Sometimes they even do things for the right reasons.
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« Reply #2020 on: December 16, 2013, 06:04:08 PM »
Hobbit 2: This shit was duuuuumb. And lots of fun. 10/10, would watch again, etc, or something.

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« Reply #2021 on: January 01, 2014, 03:51:38 AM »
Frozen:  It was... pretty cool! (groan)

I'm a bit sour on Disney acquiring Marvel now.  The aftercredits scene where Elsa joins the Avengers is just taking things too far. (groan)

Alright enough with the jokes.  Overall decent movie but the ending was crap OH YEAH LOVE (SNAP).  The scene when Elsa first goes up the mountain was excellent though.  You always say why would someone choose to be a villain?  But you can really see it happening in that scene, with the right kind of background and motivation that contributed to her situation.

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« Reply #2022 on: January 01, 2014, 02:25:10 PM »
Frozen - Great movie, love Elsa in particular~ I have no opinion on the ending.

Hobbit 2 - Better than the first. Just has less walking and more character work.
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« Reply #2023 on: January 01, 2014, 02:46:07 PM »
Frozen was solid overall but with some serious weaknesses - the villain reveal, half of the songs, the "LOVE! Okay everything is better" ending. But I liked the performances and the overall arc of the story way more than any of that irritated me.
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« Reply #2024 on: January 01, 2014, 03:04:44 PM »
The songs were not the best, definitely.
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