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« Reply #950 on: April 21, 2010, 06:00:29 PM »
Godzilla vs. Smog Monster/Hedorah:  Finally saw the rest of this movie!

Its...umm....er....best way to describe it?

Take a 2nd grade classroom session, with the focus primarily on Environmentalism, with a bit of Astronomy tossed in.  Then toss in a GIANT FUCKING SLUDGE MONSTER and Godzilla into the mix.

I really have nothing more to say, the movie is that bad.  Its really hard to explain just how fucked up it is, not just in its nature, but in all the random shit they shove in it.

The only reason to see this movie is if you hate yourself.  The only reason to recommend this movie to someone else is if you really want them to suffer.  This movie is comparable to bad Gamera films.  COMPARABLE. TO. BAD. GAMERA. FILMS.

That is all.


This was also my first Godzillia film! It's kind of a wonder I don't hate the genre, considering.
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« Reply #951 on: April 21, 2010, 11:23:41 PM »
What, Meeple.

I question what you're questioning in my post.  If its about the "see, don't see" part, I'm mostly saying "This movie is so bad, it can be considered a form of chinese torture" (ignore the Japanese origins.)

If you're wondering about the other stuff in the movie...I really have no way to explain it.  I guess watch the Cinnemassacre review of it from the Godzillathon a few years back, just to brush the surface of how awful it is, to get some hints to the random shit tossed in.

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Heh, yeah, that is something to wonder.  I mean, my first one was Godzilla vs. Megalon, but at least that one makes sense as far as being enjoyable when you're a brain dead 5 year old (actually, that and King Kong vs. Godzilla were the only movies I had scene until I was in Middle School.  well, my parents claim I use to watch Rodan a lot, but I seriously don't remember that!)
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« Reply #952 on: April 22, 2010, 01:43:31 AM »
Kickass:  Umm surprisingly slow paced for this type of movie.  I thought it'd be comedy with a bit of action mixed in or action with a bit of comedy.  Instead they throw in a lot of filler "character development" that is actually less believable than the 13 year old girl who takes on small armies by herself.

Had its moments though and the spoofiness or it kind of allows for the shitty writing.  I found myself enjoying it more than Hottub Time Machine and She's Outta My League, but this movie isn't a 7.  So I'll lower those other two to 5 evens and give this a 5.5 since none of the movies were actually all that good.

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« Reply #953 on: April 22, 2010, 05:25:06 AM »
Nah, Meeple, I was just surprised really because so far you never mentioned a Godzilla film sucking so much. I guess I'll steer away from this one as I believe I do have a rubber-dinosaur-whale threshold anyway.

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« Reply #954 on: April 22, 2010, 07:11:22 PM »
Men Who Stare at Goats-  I adore this movie.  I'm also not sure I could really recommend it to anyone.
This is just a movie that plays my strings well.  It has a lot of humor, but in an understated quirky way that means you never really bust out laughing.  It's always wearing a tiny little smile and you smile with it.  The principle cast is excellent, all people I enjoy a lot in other movies.  While set in the not-so-distant past of 200...3?   4?  Anyway, despite this, it devotes a lot of time to backstory, and in its way is alternate history.  While the bulk of the past segments are based on actual stories from a real unit of warrior monks, they blend in the simple fact that these men ARE Jedi warriors, and let the story follow from there.  And yet, despite making it clear that the magic they practice is real, the entire story functions the same even if it weren't.  Simple and down to earth but with a hint of magic.  Great stuff.

So watch this if you like quirky, almost but not quite real sort of stories.  Otherwise I dunno.
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« Reply #955 on: April 22, 2010, 08:50:59 PM »
Meeple, you realize everything you say is just making me want to watch this movie to see how truly bad it is, right? (I have seen it before, but I was a little kid and don't remember it well.)

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« Reply #956 on: April 22, 2010, 08:59:35 PM »
Idun: Well, thing is, I've only seen about half this movie and it was when I was younger.  Thing is, its the only Godzilla movie I OPENLY STOPPED WATCHING OUT OF FREE WILL.

I can't say how I was able to sit through Godzilla's Revenge, I guess its the fact that this movie at least feels like one movie, just a really bad one.  As in, its a sequence of events that are related, and stays topical, just it sucks a lot.  Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster...I wanna say "its something that needs to be seen to understood" but that implies I am suggesting you watch this movie, and I'm trying to do the EXACT OPPOSITE.  Best I can say is go find some sort of video review of it (The Cinnemassacre one works well enough.)

El Cid: Yeah, I know.  Just do yourself a favor and watch Godzilla Final Wars right after it, to remind yourself why these movies can be enjoyable <_<
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« Reply #957 on: April 22, 2010, 09:08:07 PM »
I'm sure if you go into the movie fully intending on MSTing the shit out of it, it could be fun~
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« Reply #958 on: April 22, 2010, 09:37:36 PM »
ah, but that's cheating!
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« Reply #959 on: April 23, 2010, 05:30:09 PM »
G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobras - 1/5. Hahahahaha.

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« Reply #960 on: April 23, 2010, 09:19:09 PM »
G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobras - 1/5. Hahahahaha.

Hey it had some interesting action scenes.  It just ruined it with all that talking in between.

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« Reply #961 on: April 23, 2010, 09:59:29 PM »
G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobras - 1/5. Hahahahaha.

Hey it had some interesting action scenes.  It just ruined it with all that talking in between.

So its FF7 Advent Children?
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« Reply #962 on: April 24, 2010, 12:34:40 AM »
No.  Advent Children has kind of stupid plot and breaks characters.  G.I. Joe has a team of the world's most elite soldiers trying to find the target of the world's most dangerous terrorist organisation by having 5 guys drive around Paris in a jeep.

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« Reply #963 on: April 24, 2010, 12:36:32 AM »
My favorite part is where they're chasing a car down a crowded street and they're spraying TEN MILLIMETER MACHINE GUN FIRE at it. You know, to make sure that any bystanders will be punched full of holes as their cars are ripped apart by gunfire of that caliber.

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« Reply #964 on: April 24, 2010, 03:56:11 AM »
What DIDN'T make sense was - that chick stole some random guy's bike right? How can someone hit her back wheel and she barely fishtails on a normal bike?

ALSO. The emotion/logic joke went too far. It was cute once.

Bitch shoulda died.

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« Reply #965 on: April 24, 2010, 05:38:06 AM »
My favorite part is where they're chasing a car down a crowded street and they're spraying TEN MILLIMETER MACHINE GUN FIRE at it. You know, to make sure that any bystanders will be punched full of holes as their cars are ripped apart by gunfire of that caliber.

I don't get what is wrong with that, it is what we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan after all.  Accurate portrayal.

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« Reply #966 on: April 24, 2010, 07:14:23 AM »
In it's defense, analyzing the plot of an old school kids cartoon is... well... I'm sure everybody has seen Transformers 2.

Not in it's defense.  Even the cartoons didn't use 6 six old kids on heroin to write the scripts for them.  (And this movie didn't even have Sienna Miller run around half naked for 1/4 of the movie.  Apparently they couldn't find horny kids on heroin.)

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« Reply #967 on: April 24, 2010, 05:15:09 PM »
I enjoyed GI Joe. I could not stand TF2
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« Reply #968 on: April 24, 2010, 05:45:58 PM »
If I really wanted to analyze it, I would, but the movie pulled just a little too much bullshit. It wasn't even fun. They tried to stuff the movie with adequate background to develop their shitty characters and it failed. Plus the actors . . . the lines . . .  too much cheese. It's like having to watch that live action Street Fighter all over again. Good when I'm young and am like "OMG GUILE," but very b~a~aad now.

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« Reply #969 on: April 24, 2010, 06:48:18 PM »
But the live action Street Fighter is so bad, it's awesome!

Idly, I think what you've said about the GI Joe film is the kindest I've seen anyone be towards it. I have heard nothing good about it whatsoever.

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« Reply #970 on: April 25, 2010, 05:40:52 AM »
Buncha stuff. Mostly a mix of random eighties stuff and movies I hadn't watched for a while and figured I should see again.

Barry Lyndon: Because apparently there are Stanley Kubrick movies I haven't seen and I need to fix this (unless they're called Eyes Wide Shut). If you like slow-moving period dramas with gorgeous cinematography and classical music, this is pretty cool. For most people the answer to that is probably no, but I am not most people. Scenery Porn is in abundance and I cannot look away.

WarGames: This is hilarious just for the technology on display. Eight-inch floppy disks! Modems that require you to physically connect the telephone handset! Those reel printers that use the blue-and-white paper and go REET-REET-REET when they're working! Nostalgia bomb. It's actually a fun little movie, though. I liked the intro a lot: couple guys go to work manning a missile silo, just a normal day, bitching about their replacements being late, that sort of thing. Out of nowhere, THIS IS NOT A TEST, LAUNCH YOUR MISSILES AT RUSSIA, END CIVILIZATION, ETCETERA. (It is a test, of course, but they don't know this and are quite viscerally disturbed.) I mean, yeah, it's a Matthew Broderick movie, you know that lovable little scamp's going to get away with everything, but it was a nice way of driving home that shit could go down and everything could end at any time. Most of the movie is fluff, but it's enjoyable fluff with a veneer of seriousness. Dated but still watchable enough.

Sneakers: Another one of those "I haven't seen this in a decade, so let's find out if it still holds up" rentals. It...kind of does. Story is fairly straightforward thriller material and there are plenty of plotholes, but ultimately it's just hard to care about that because every actor in this movie is goddamn badass. Ben Kingsley's too-brief appearances as the cynical, burned-out hippie of a villain are easily the highlights. I don't understand why this man is in so many bad movies. Really groovy jazz soundtrack here, too. I don't even like jazz, it just fit perfectly. More fluff, but more fun fluff.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: So I figured I should give this another viewing now that there's some distance from the hype and inevitable disappointment of the theatrical release. It is still pretty mediocre. Not anywhere near the level of travesty that the SW prequels were, but it still lets down the series legacy pretty significantly. It doesn't start out that bad; the setpieces in the first half aren't a patch on Raiders or Last Crusade at their best, but it at least seems like the movie might go somewhere fun. But then we get to the Amazon and everything falls to pieces: we get family drama (and not the endearing kind with Sean Connery), Indy instantly turns into a stereotypical worrywart of a father, there's giant ant silliness, goddamn monkey silliness, Shia whatshisface gets whacked in the crotch for cheap laughs, and just...bleh. I guess this was Lucas's half of the movie. There are a couple good lines spread throughout the movie and I can't say no to Cate Blanchett as a hot commie swordgirl, but this is really as complimentary as I can be here. Sad.

The Fall: I'm really not sure how fond I actually am of this movie, but damned if it isn't one of the most visually arresting things I've ever seen. It's worth watching just for that. Also has the most naturalistic performance I've ever seen from a kid. It's like no one told her she was actually in a movie. The plot, such as it is, concerns a crippled actor in a hospital entertaining a young patient with stories in the hope that she'll like him enough to steal him a bottle of morphine (which he intends to use to commit suicide). The stories get weirder and bleaker as the guy's mood sinks and the kid tries to take control of them and steer them (and by extension him) in a less destructive direction. The movie is, above all, unique. I can see a lot of people being turned off by the quirkiness, but it's definitely worth a shot. It also has Charles Darwin. He looks like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2698226653_bffe27f997.jpg

Lifeforce: I don't even remember how I stumbled upon this one. Was looking at some random list of movies on Netflix, saw the title and went, "Huh, that sounds vaguely familiar," clicked. First reviewer there described it as "the Citizen Kane of naked space vampire zombie movies." You know I had to watch it after that. It is eighties bad, so about what you'd expect. Directed by Tobe Hooper, who I'm sure is a hack (Poltergeist I attribute to Spielberg's assistance; if Texas Chainsaw Massacre is actually good, I'm guessing that's a fluke. I'm not likely to find out since I despise slasher movies). It really feels like they just couldn't figure out which movie they wanted to make here. "Okay, we're on a spaceship filled with giant bat corpses--no, now we're in a lab in London and this alien girl's doing the whole quickening from the Highlander thing on everyone--nah, that's no good, let's jump to...an asylum, yeah. And we can have the furniture fly around. Remember when I directed Poltergeist? That was cool, wasn't it? Wait, we need an ending...We haven't done the zombie holocaust thing yet, have we? Let's just go with that." Nothing makes any goddamn sense, the effects are quaint at best (I burst out laughing when Patrick Stewart's face started melting; it just came out of nowhere) and the villain is this gorgeous French chick who spends most of her screentime walking around naked. So all in all, this one was a winner.

Suspiria: Decided to check this out because Dario Argento is supposedly a really awesome horror director or something. Not really seeing the hype. Admittedly this isn't my genre, but there were a lot of moments here where I found myself asking, "Why is this scene being dragged out so long? Does this moment really need to be in the film? Isn't there something else the camera could be doing with its time?" Most of the events in the movie you can call in advance; this isn't always a bad thing, but pacing issues stand out more glaringly when there's not much investment in or reason to care about the characters. Just being a horror movie doesn't give you an excuse to ignore those things. I dunno. See below for a lot of what I thought this one was missing.

The Changeling: Okay, this was cool. Good old-fashioned ghost story: guy moves into abandoned mansion, supernatural stuff happens, we get suggestions that something horrible went down there in the past, etc. Familiar setup, good execution. Shit doesn't happen just for cheap scares--it happens because something is pissed and wants to send a message. Everything that occurs is the result of a personal mission of the mysterious entity or of the main character. Everything has a direction that makes sense in context instead of being merely a calculated attempt to make the audience jump--and because there are actually, y'know, motives and stuff at work, it's much more effective at that. Nice little mystery with a creepy atmosphere. Also, George C. Scott. Definitely worth watching.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture: This is a bad movie. I knew it was a bad movie, but I hadn't seen it in like a decade and a fit of masochism took over, so, yeah. You can tell early on that something went terribly wrong in the production of this one. Our reintroduction to Kirk is...an inspiring shot of a square chunk of his face through the window of what amounts to public transportation. This is pretty emblematic of how the movie got everything completely backwards. Kirk spends like the first ten minutes talking to people we don't know about stuff that we don't care about; it's about half an hour before we see the goddamn Enterprise, and then we spend nearly as long LOOKING at the goddamn Enterprise. Seriously, it is Enterprise porn, and it just goes on and on and the audience can only lie there wondering when he'll be finished and roll over. I don't know what they were thinking. All of this is set to a Jerry Goldsmith score, which is cool, but the pomp is so overused as to make it boring. And they try to set up this character conflict where Kirk has to worry about whether he's actually a control freak who's just trampling people underfoot to get the ship back, but the writers never figure out what to do with this, it eventually gets subsumed by the actual plot, and then totally invalidated by the fact that his only apparent rival gets written out at the end of the movie. So uh. What were you guys doing, again?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, the movie's not completely worthless--I'm a sucker for futuristic super-structures and I still think the interior of the alien spaceship looks pretty cool; I'm also sufficiently fond of A.I. as plot elements that the story is kinda sorta interesting once it finally gets going, but dear lord does that take a while. It's just an objectively terrible movie with some superficial elements that almost manage to make it bearable. I'm just glad this load was a hit somehow, or we would've never got Wrath of Khan.

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« Reply #971 on: April 25, 2010, 12:34:54 PM »
What makes Street Fighter good isn't that it is so bad, it is that it had Raul fucking Julia there to save it from itself.  How do you have a horrible movie turn out awesome?  But having a fucking genius completely chew the scenery something chronic and turn the whole thing into its own kind of camp cheese adventure.  If GI Joe had Brian Blessed or Christopher Walken in it to play Cobra Commander then it might have been saved.

Also high five to the Cid for watching Sneakers and War Games (And that is the best description of a Dot Matrix printer ever, you brought a smile to me).  I think you need to go on a massive Christian Slater binge or something.
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« Reply #972 on: April 25, 2010, 02:26:57 PM »
The Drawn Together Movie:  The Movie:  A rather weak end to the series, but it has its moments.  Such as Toot squirting Bam-Bam out of her uterus to club a guy on the head.  Also 3-D glasses-making tutorial for the win.  Fuck you, Comedy Central!

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« Reply #973 on: April 25, 2010, 09:09:31 PM »
Star Trek- meeeh.  Okay so McCoy was great, and Kirk, Spock, Uhura, and Scottie had good character establishing shots.  Pretty much the entire rest of the movie was a pile of meh.  The plot's barely servicable for an episode, let alone a movie, the character I didn't name were just trying too hard and honestly broke up the scene with it, not nearly enough of the movie was McCoy/Kirk/Spock just playing off each other, and frankly I think the effects sucked; yes, technically shiny, but the don't give you any kind of sense of how the ships look or function.  Like, when in TNG you have the Enterprise and a Romulan Warbird staring off, you get a great feel of "okay, these things are pretty evenly matched, the weapons are here and here, they can move around like this, these are the vulnerable points" and so on.  The ships have a tangible quality.  Here, they are silly CG effects.  No substance to them.
The Kobiyashi Maru scene was also dumb.  Way, way more camp than it should have been considering how built up Kirk's winning it was previously.  He needed to at least look like he was taking it seriously and showing off how good at command he was, not just being a smartass (although sure, that too).

So yeah, blah.  If they want to get this cast together and make a revised series out of them, that could go places.  More movies I will not be spending money on without evidence of a lot changing in how the movie is made.

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies- Not bad.  Just having the DCAU reunion thing going was nice, good action sequences.  Lex falling apart at the end like that felt a little forced, but otherwise pretty alright.  Kinda sad they didn't have more space for more cameos though.
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« Reply #974 on: April 25, 2010, 10:37:09 PM »
Also high five to the Cid for watching Sneakers and War Games (And that is the best description of a Dot Matrix printer ever, you brought a smile to me).  I think you need to go on a massive Christian Slater binge or something.

I couldn't actually remember what they were called, yeah. I just remember my dad always had huge piles of that paper around and when I got bored I'd grab a stack to draw mazes that always wound up being like five feet long.

I can't think of a Christian Slater movie I'd want to watch again, so suggest something. (Okay, so he has a small part in Star Trek VI, but that doesn't really count as a Christian Slater Movie.)

And CK sums up pretty much exactly how I feel about new Star Trek. That and stuff like "Why the hell does the Romulan ship have such overpowered weaponry? It's supposed to be a mining ship. Who gives a mining ship armaments like this?" and "Guys, why didn't you notice your sun was going to blow up until like the day it happened? These things have pretty regular life cycles. The ones that stick around long enough for sentient life to evolve, at least. How the fuck does a futuristic, space-faring society not keep track of things like this?"