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« Reply #1375 on: May 30, 2011, 01:46:01 AM »
Boondock Saints- I'm not sure if this is a good or bad movie. It's so over the top that it's almost a parody, except that the director takes himself pretty seriously.  It was reasonably entertaining though.

Boondock Saints 2- This was just bad.  The female detective wasn't a match for her counterpart in the first film, and some of the humor mixed in was pretty juvenile. I still enjoyed it well enough though.

The Hangover- OK is so Stu. So very Stu. It's more or less a documentary of what would happen if Elfboy, VSM, myself, and OK went to Vegas for a weekend. 
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« Reply #1376 on: May 30, 2011, 02:04:01 AM »
Kung Fu Panda 2:  It was basically about killing, except they couldn't say killing because it's a kids movie.  So there's just a lot of awkward open-mouthed stares where you would normally say "killed".  I liked the peacock though.

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« Reply #1377 on: May 30, 2011, 12:55:30 PM »
Boondock Saints- I'm not sure if this is a good or bad movie.

Personally thought it was the latter. The director is so goddamn serious about his "lolcops r dumb VIGILANTE JUSTICE IS THE ONLY WAY" message (he claims the movie was inspired by a neighbor being killed by drug dealers and the police letting the killer go or something) that I could only flush the damn thing by the end.

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« Reply #1378 on: May 31, 2011, 12:37:44 AM »
The Hangover- OK is so Stu. So very Stu. It's more or less a documentary of what would happen if Elfboy, VSM, myself, and OK went to Vegas for a weekend. 

OK is very Stu. ESPECIALLY considering the second movie. However, the rest of the cast is kinda off. Say what you will about yourself, Super, you're far, far from being Alan. VSM is not Bradley Cooper either. Elf is the closest there at Doug, but... still.

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« Reply #1379 on: May 31, 2011, 01:28:36 AM »
Hangover II: Funny movie. Seems like it benefits from not having seen the first one, given how much the reviews say it copies wholesale. Alan is way too close to a childhood friend of mine, down to the scene where he yells lunch orders at his mother.
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« Reply #1380 on: May 31, 2011, 01:45:12 AM »
I said it before, nothing in The Hangover is that shocking if you've seen Dude, Where's My Car? Same basic premise, just Dude is silly and corny while Hangover is more adult fare.

All these kinds of movies have the same basic plot. Granted, yeah, Hangover II is almost carbon-copied from the first, but it's so much more over the top that I actually ended up enjoying it more.

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« Reply #1381 on: June 05, 2011, 11:57:13 PM »
Pirates 4 - Well, this was certainly a thing. Not quite a movie, more like a serial or a really expensive and long TV episode. Not quite a movie. Entertaining, but... not quite up to par with the first two. Roughly on par with the third, for different reasons.

Knight and Day - Shame the rest of the movie was such shit, since there was some pretty witty dialogue in here.

Cop Out - Sadly not as good as you'd think a buddy-cop movie by Kevin Smith would be. Michael Keaton is great in it though.

Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen's new movie (written/directed). Saw a trailer for it at Pirates 4, ended up being really good! Anyone who is a lit buff should go see it. As it stood, sooooo glad I took a 20th Century Humanities class recently. Other than two lame potshot type jokes at Republicans the movie was incredibly solid comedically and otherwise.
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« Reply #1382 on: June 06, 2011, 01:45:32 AM »
X-Men: First Class- Good fun.  However!  Warning: Marvel muggles may have hit a new low here.  Remember to preemptively roll eyes after the villain's last scene.
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« Reply #1383 on: June 06, 2011, 03:27:08 AM »
The Expendables: Somehow less impressive than I was expecting. It should have either skipped all the pointless dialog and gone full on action movie, or attempted to actually build a story.

Resident Evil 4: Always awful, always entertaining. Wesker had perfect casting, I will say that much.
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« Reply #1384 on: June 06, 2011, 09:44:49 AM »
X-Men: First Class- Good fun.  However!  Warning: Marvel muggles may have hit a new low here.  Remember to preemptively roll eyes after the villain's last scene.

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« Reply #1385 on: June 06, 2011, 09:59:36 AM »
That's more realistic.
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« Reply #1386 on: June 06, 2011, 10:19:50 AM »
And yet still lower than whatever you just saw in the movie.
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« Reply #1387 on: June 06, 2011, 11:24:11 AM »
The proper answer to the NASCAR question is "Never, because I'm not an idiot" and to the Simpsons, "about ten years ago, because I'm not an idiot."

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« Reply #1388 on: June 06, 2011, 09:52:34 PM »
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« Reply #1389 on: June 12, 2011, 03:28:18 AM »
X-Men: First Class- Good fun.

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I approve of the sixties Bond villain thing the enemies have going on here, incidentally.

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« Reply #1390 on: June 13, 2011, 10:38:20 PM »
X-Men First Class:  Yeah, baby!  Revisionist history has never been so much fun.  Austin Powers Xavier is a very groovy cat.  His mojo is getting into other people's mojo; that's heavy, baby.

Anyway, the movie worked for what it intended to do:  give a backstory to the previous X-Men movies that doesn't require you to read 50 years of comics.  My wife was like "Oh, so that's how that happened!" throughout the movie and I just smiled and nodded at her.

Kevin Bacon was excellent as Shaw, and it's ever so much fun to watch Magneto moving things around with magnetism.  They always make it look so much cooler than telekinesis for some reason.
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« Reply #1391 on: June 14, 2011, 05:00:29 PM »
X-Men, First Class

I thought it was pretty fantastic.  With the caveat that there were really only three characters in the movie (Raven, Charles, and Eric) and everyone else served as a foil of one of those three.

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Charles actually comes across as...not so much a villain, as a bit of a douchebag.  He's the guy who feels it's better for gays mutants to be semi-closeted; not flaunt their pride in who they are.  He does perform well in the teacher role, but isn't good at treating his friends like equals.  It's hard not to identify with Raven; she does feel like the main character of the movie in a lot of ways, and gets the most character development.  From shy girl who's kind-of living in Charles' shadow and a bit ashamed of who she is, to proud woman.  Her leaving with Eric at the end makes sense, not so much because she necessarily agrees with him, but because Charles is a douchebag.  Eric is kind-of a broken man--you can always see where he's coming from, given his origins; like "identification; that's how it starts."

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I think it's strong as a movie when you don't try too hard to tie it to the x-men cannon, other than the fact that a lot of extraneous stuff was injected just because it was x-men.  Like...they could have done with half the cast.  They definitely needed Hank in that movie, as an excellent foil to Raven, and Shaw as a foil to Eric.  But past that?  Most of the other mutants could have been cut.

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« Reply #1392 on: June 14, 2011, 08:21:11 PM »
This movie shows in full force what's only sorta hinted at in the older ones; Charles Xavier might mean well, but growing up being able to read people's minds has left him, putting it nicely, morally challenged.  He thinks nothing of using his powers to his advantage and much like Erik he'll do whatever he thinks is necessary to achieve his vision.  He just has a vision a little more compatible with standard morality and less influenced by being horribly broken as a child.

Edit: the other characters mostly exist because it's an adaptation of a team book, so you need a few more people/different sets of powers to make the action elements work like fans expect.  Or exist to die/turn evil to underscore the seriousness of teh situation >.>
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« Reply #1393 on: June 15, 2011, 02:03:45 AM »
Yep, Charles was indeed a total dick as a kid.  He tortured Cain Marko constantly with his mental powers when they were growing up.

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« Reply #1394 on: June 15, 2011, 02:55:43 AM »
I always identified with Magneto the most, personally.

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« Reply #1395 on: June 16, 2011, 04:25:43 AM »
Well, said I would do writing on my holiday, so first day of it will be movies, because I watched some movies.

The Mechanic - This movie is a mess.  It is a bit of fun, but it meanders all over the place.  I watched it because it had Jason Statham in it and that gave me what I wanted.  The premise is that he kills his mentor because the mentor sold out his assassin company.  Then he trains up the mentor's kid in assassination missions because he is directionless and is a loose cannon.  Then there is like 20 minutes of training montage or some shit.  There is just way to much of that.  By 3/4 of the way through the movie Statham has killed like 2 people.  Then after training montage the kid goes on 2 missions.  Straight up fucks up the first one, turning what could have looked like an overdose on something into a violent break and enter murder while planting the drugs on the body sending a pretty crazy hard message to the company the target worked for.  Then they are asked to kill another guy.  Careful plan goes to shit and turns into a fire fight.  Statham is not really called out for either of these.  The second one isn't the kid's fault really, but he certainly helped escalate the situation into a big full blown gun fight.

Then the last quarter of the movie is a straight revenge flick when Statham has talked about how it isn't about revenge.  He certainly went on a big killing spree after fucking up 2 important missions for no monetary gain.  Then the kid kills Statham with Statham accepting it all.  The kid says revenge was always the mission blah blah.  Goes back to Statham's house and takes the old car he had been working on.  Oh snap Statham trapped it and blew the kid up, then we find out Statham got out of the trap the kid setup.

Like the last part is a big dumb action movie with LOL TWIST at the end, which is fine.  I just have no fucking idea how this guy is ever meant to find work again.  It is a real slow burner after a fun opening then ends with a bang.  It isn't an explosive bang though, it is a bang of the plot being dropped on the floor and shattered to a thousand pieces.  Fun movie, but not good.  Watch Snatch instead for good Statham action.


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The Adjustment Bureau - Now this.  This was really damned good.  I am glad I caught that it is based on a Phillip K Dick piece because that makes the whole thing make sense and is the only reason I watched it.  The description of it is how Matt Damon and the heroines love is so great that they won't be kept apart because of a big conspiracy.

That is total bullshit and the story is fucking nothing like that.  What it is about is Free Will, like straight up Cartesian shit right here.  The bureaucracy are Angels the enforce God's plan by modifying minor events and directing decision making of people.  So you have a divine bureaucracy that is run by angels that wear 3 piece suits, hats (important plot point) and go everywhere at a fairly leisurely stroll.  These Angels follow their maps for how things should be going along completely blindly and have no idea what the divine plan is and why they are doing the things they do.  This is pure Phillip K Dick stuff here and it is pretty fantastic. 

There is a case worker specifically assigned to Matt Damon.  He is chock full of regret.  More on this later.  He screws up one day and Matt Damon meets Emily Blunt after he was never supposed to see her again and rocks up to work on day while the Bureau is recalibrating his best friend's opinion (on investing deeply into Solar Panels, so he will do that).  So Matt Damon finds out about the Angel dudes that he shouldn't.  They can't wipe his memory so they make him swear to never expose them to anyone or be lobotomised.

So the plot of his undying love in the face of a conspiracy?  Matt Damon loves Emily Blunt because the divine plan changed years ago and he was no longer supposed to marry her and be happy for life.  He keeps fighting in his way to be with her without revealing the presence of the Bureau.  This takes place over a period of about 4 years, it is pretty awesome.  Just huge time jumps where he was entirely unable to do anything about it (had no idea who Emily Blunt even was...).  So anyway, they ultimately end up together and the divine plan changes to let them stay together.  Which is kind of hilarious in that this was originally the divine plan anyway.  You still have a triumphant story about free will though on the human side anyway.  The Chairman sees how far Matt Damon will go and just goes yep sounds good (omnscient and omnipotent being that you never see is the Chairman).  So a bit of a smart arse move there.  It could be because of sloppy writing in the screenplay that this is what happens, but I love it anyway for the shades of Voltaire in it.

The real strong part of Free Will though I think comes from the Angel that is filled with regret because of the ways that he had to shape Matt Damon's life.  He had to do things that he didn't like doing to people that he thought didn't deserve it.  He is questioning the divine plan even though he is a being born entirely to uphold it.  He sees the course taken as extremely wasteful and regretful.  Ultimately he chooses to help Matt Damon.  With a few small exercises of breaking protocol I think he has made a far more grand statement about Free Will than the four year long story of Matt Damon trying to find his lost love (bonus points for it taking place over 2 generations off camera, just nicely handled).  It is a small act on his part that has huge ramifications resulting in the ultimate changes to the divine plan.  All from an Angel who is in a Bureaucratic system that represses his personal choices because they are defined for him.  So we are racking up shades of Descartes, Voltaire and rage against corporate workplaces.  No wonder I loved this movie.

Another point where the marketting fails, it gets referred to as an action movie.  There is action sequences of people running around.  Like away from Angels that walk at a brisk stroll.  It is a far smarter movie than it is marketted as.

A few quick finishing things, I love the costuming again.  Another movie that knows how good a three piece or four piece suit is.  Pretty much every Agent is dressed immaculately and looks great.  The main few look great.  The higher up on the food chain they get the more oppulent the costuming is.  The special agent man they bring in to ultimately try and break up the relationship steps it up with a very fine long coat and scarf.  My favourite part is when you see some of the really high up guys and they are dressed like 80s stockbroker stereotypes.  Bracers, slick backed hair, bold solid coloured shirts even from memory.  Just great fun there.  Also the Regret Angel guy, dresses nicely and rocks his trilby at a rakish angle.  Looks fucking great.  Just to show, he is played by Anthony Mackie

Just a ton of fun for a gigantic nerd like me.
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« Reply #1396 on: June 16, 2011, 04:32:44 AM »
Good lord.  If the advertisements had given THAT impression I'd have gone tos ee that movie.
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« Reply #1397 on: June 16, 2011, 03:43:41 PM »
Yeah really.  NOt that anyone else would have gone and seen it.
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« Reply #1398 on: June 16, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »
I'd like to think that the ads that did come out were too ham-handed to draw in the sorta people who enjoy "fated love fighting the system".  I mean, I'm all about that (Xenogears fanboy and all) and I thought they were retarded!
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« Reply #1399 on: June 28, 2011, 02:47:04 PM »
I liked the Adjustment Bureau. I had a pretty good idea what the movie was about and I took my GF to watch it. It was a good date movie.

I also liked green Lantern. Granted, it changes some of the origins around a little bit, but it was not too bad. it could have been better, but aside from Superman and Batman...the Dc characters just do not get that much attention. I always hear people decribe the Green Lantern and then call him (Green) Arrow or Hornet as if they were the same hero. they do lead up to a sequel which I hope gets green lit. I think a second movie will remove a lot of the restraints of the first and allow the Jordan to really let his powers loose. Although, judging by the poor reviews the movie garnished...who knows.

Either way I'd much rather see a Flash movie personally.

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Why do people like these Harry Potter movies? Granted I have not read any of the books, but I just caught up all the way to the DH1 and I am supremely unimpressed. My gf had to slap me a couple of times to keep me up during the Deathly Hallows and The Half Blood Prince was just horrible. Oh well I've gone this far, might as well see it all the way through. At least these movies aren't as bad as those Twilight movies. Ugh.

Here's hoping this Captain America movie is good. I was never a huge fan of him, but the trailers look dope.
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