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Grefter · « **Reply #1675 on:** August 08, 2012, 12:17:19 AM »

Because the first game had a hospital with nurses (not sexy?) and SH2 had sexy nurses because of SH2 main themes and then suddenly STATUS QUO hits the series.

So I take it that the love interest doesn't turn out to already be dead and was killed by the main character?

Sierra · « **Reply #1676 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:48:27 AM »

Andy you forgot the part where Sean Bean dies.

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1677 on:** August 08, 2012, 02:08:56 AM »

Sean Bean dies in every movie ever made, it's kinda easy to.

Shale · « **Reply #1678 on:** August 08, 2012, 02:32:37 AM »

Whenever he does actually die, I kind of want his obituary to be titled "SEAN BEAN EXPLORES METHOD ACTING."

Jo'ou Ranbu · « **Reply #1679 on:** August 08, 2012, 02:54:33 AM »

He may actually be working on that.

Luther Lansfeld · « **Reply #1680 on:** August 13, 2012, 10:49:17 PM »

Return of the King - Yeah, I watch movies slowly, what of it? I'm not sure what to make of this movie. First half bad, second half good. I'm not sure if the extended edition adding the bizarre sequence at the beginning where Saruman dies was good or not, since it shouldn't really be in RotK. (I know the book doesn't have Saruman die there of course, but clearly he disappears from the story in the movie.) Also the Aowen/Faramir romance out of nowhere is kind of odd. Frodo/Sam/Gollum arc for the win in this movie.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1681 on:** August 13, 2012, 11:59:24 PM »

That's actually something from the appendixes that lay out what happens after. Faramir and Eowyn marry a while after the book ends and everyone has settled into their new gigs. Course they can't hardly put that all in there so it was moved up on the timetable.

Grefter · « **Reply #1682 on:** August 14, 2012, 01:15:45 AM »

I am fine with moving it up in the timetable because by the time they get around to that shit in the book you are well into the "WHY THE FUCK IS THIS STILL GOING JUST LET IT END" section of the books (which is to say it is any time after the first mention of elevensies).

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1683 on:** August 14, 2012, 07:44:27 AM »

Quote from: Rob the Stampede on August 13, 2012, 11:59:24 PM

That's actually something from the appendixes that lay out what happens after. Faramir and Eowyn marry a while after the book ends and everyone has settled into their new gigs. Course they can't hardly put that all in there so it was moved up on the timetable.

Technically, its more like Chapter 5 or Chapter 6 of Book 6 that it happens. The Appendices are more about background information and

The books dedicate an entire chapter to nothing but Faramir and Eowen's relationship, in short, which I seem to recall that Return of the King pretty much cut out entirely beyond showing them standing together in the ending. I feel part of the purpose was both characters suffered some pretty drastic losses in the preceding war, why not give them a little bit of an extra happy ending? Maybe I'm looking too into it though.

Frodo's Journey actually ends really early in Book 6, and most of that Book is all the aftermath stuff. Yeah, it drags on, but there is some purpose in it, like "Sarumen in the Shire" was there to indicate "Sauron is gone, but there is still evil in the world", and its a follow up to Gndalf's line to Treebeard "He still has his most powerful weapon though: His Tongue" or something along those lines.

That said, I have no problems with them cutting all this stuff out in the movies, outside of the Sarumen stuff (as in, cutting out any sort of closure the character had entirely was done. Whether you like how the Director's Cut handled Sarumen's scene or not, at least it gave him a sense of closure, which is better than simply saying "He's in his tower, being useless.")

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1684 on:** August 14, 2012, 08:35:45 AM »

Quote from: Meeplelard on August 14, 2012, 07:44:27 AM

The books dedicate an entire chapter to nothing but Faramir and Eowen's relationship, in short, which I seem to recall that Return of the King pretty much cut out entirely beyond showing them standing together in the ending. I feel part of the purpose was both characters suffered some pretty drastic losses in the preceding war, why not give them a little bit of an extra happy ending? Maybe I'm looking too into it though.

No, that's pretty much what Tolkien said. That, and the implication of a double-dynastic alliance between the House of Eorl and the Stewards of Gondor (Eomer marries Faramir's cousin-once-removed).

Scar · « **Reply #1685 on:** August 14, 2012, 11:34:01 PM »

So, do you guys think this Hobbit movie is going to be cut in half?

~

Also, what about the future for the Batman movies? Nolan and most of the cast said they are done, but do you think the studio will (once again) start from scratch, or start with a new Batman taking over?

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1686 on:** August 14, 2012, 11:49:10 PM »

They'll have to reboot him so they can make that Justice League movie they want to make so badly (that will suck).

Sierra · « **Reply #1687 on:** August 15, 2012, 02:25:46 AM »

Pretty much. They're already doing that for the Arkham games for expressly that purpose.

Grefter · « **Reply #1688 on:** August 15, 2012, 02:39:20 AM »

Hey they could have some faith in the general public who have already been privy to this concept of rebooting, especially in terms of comic book characters and just throw Batman into Justice League movie without doing some lame filler movie just to say NO DIFFERENT BAMANS NOW. I mean if anyone has penetrated the pop culture enough for people to just pick the character and run with it sans hand holding it is Batman.

Not that I expect this to happen, but it is something they could do.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1689 on:** August 15, 2012, 02:56:35 AM »

I don't understand why there is this need to retell origin stories for Batman, Superman, Spider-Man or the Hulk. Iron Man, the X-Men, the Flash? Tell that shit, your audience might not be familiar. But those four characters specifically have penetrated so far into pop culture with origins that are simple and iconic and huge parts of the characters that they literally don't need to be retold. At this point you can drop Spider-Man into any movie and the audience will say "radioactive spider, great responsibility, got it."

The Superman people have an excuse, I mean, there's so few good Superman stories you can tell as a movie, but the rest?

Grefter · « **Reply #1690 on:** August 15, 2012, 03:51:25 AM »

I would say any random All Star Superman story, but that is cheating. That said, retelling Superman's origin story is kind of the done thing. Think we are up to 4 retellings in the last 10 years now just in comic books.

Hulk I didn't mind so much in the Ang Lee version because it had been 20ish years since Hulk was really part of the wider pop culture phenomenon.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1691 on:** August 15, 2012, 04:30:09 AM »

I think that the Hulk origin stays in the collective cultural lexicon solely thanks to comedy tbh. All of my brother's friends know it if for no other reasons than Family Guy loving to make Hulk jokes. Norton's Hulk did fine without it (technically they just used the origin from the TV show but it's totally a non-issue). My point is if you're making a movie about these four characters you can pretty much to straight to Act 2 of your hero story.

Also Gref, I said "that can be made into a movie." All-Star is a lot of things but I can't see it being a summer tentpole film.

EDIT: I came to this conclusion of familiarity by quizzing my 55-year-old mother and those were the four superheroes whose origins she could describe. My six-year-old niece was additionally able to tell me about Captain America.

Grefter · « **Reply #1692 on:** August 15, 2012, 06:55:20 AM »

I would expect someone around for the 80s TV show to remember Hulk pretty spot on. Also kids fucken love the Hulk because Hulk is pretty much a giant kid.

A movie about Jimmy Olsen running FUTURESCIENCE corporation for a day and saving Superman from Bizarro dimension is something I would watch the shit out of. That might just me wanting to be able to make Bizarro jokes and having my direct family able to get them.

Niji · « **Reply #1693 on:** August 15, 2012, 09:52:30 AM »

We desperately need a wonderwoman/origin story though if justice league movie is gonna be done, it has such great potential to be epic....though can any modern actress ever beat linda carter for this role? even the VA's after JLU for the varius wonder woman featured movies has been so bad....doing her up amazon/south american/native american seems a good choice...but all that ancient gods stuff has a lot of potential too... Could be a really epic movie.....but also immortal so....so many things they could do to tell her story(or just straight up port the 80s era wonder woman into the movie.....WITH LINDA CARTER....or something....lulz).

I guess the main thing holding them back from that is...potential for fan and/or woman audience rage if they fuck it up could run whoever makes the movie out of business/mass mob attacks. And....finding a current gen female actress actually capable of the role...(as you must both look, and act the part...and looking the part would be pretty damn hard, as you have to pull off diana AND wonder woman, and they look very different.)

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1694 on:** August 15, 2012, 11:15:47 AM »

Could you use more ellipses please? I'm not feeling like I'm in a JRPG monologue yet.

e: I had the word shitty in there, but trimmed it to reduce redundancy.

Bobbin Cranbud · « **Reply #1695 on:** August 15, 2012, 05:31:33 PM »

FWIW, all the buzz I've heard to this point is that DC is, in fact, going to do Justice League before a rebooted Batman. Man of Steel, then Justice League, then new Batman is the schedule I've heard. So for once, they actually are trusting the audience to know who this Bat-dude is.

Mind, I wouldn't put it past them to make the new Batman movie an origin story flashback. :B

Meeplelard · « **Reply #1696 on:** August 15, 2012, 06:12:43 PM »

I feel they should make a Wonder Woman movie before Justice League. Batman and Superman are pretty much standard fair at this point (plus Man of Steel is coming out next year anyway), and Green Lantern just had a movie, so he's good. Flash can be handled with some dialog or a quick flashback (no pun intended) in the movie explaining his origins.

A Justice League movie could be good, but needs to be handled properly. Just a "Hey, Avengers worked, so Justice League should work too!" isn't necessarily the case, as the reason Avengers worked was because the movie was well made and it was built up to appropriately (5 movies and all that, 4 of which were decent at worst); basically, it needs to be handled in a way that doesn't scream "Its DC's attempt to counter Marvel's Avengers success!" the way Green Lantern felt like it was DC trying to promote a non-Batman/Superman hero, in a response to Marvel getting all their Avenger heroes spotlights (face it, before the movies, was Iron Man really that mainstream outside of comic readers? I'm not saying "obscure, not well known", more like how many people knew that "Tony Stark' was the man behind the armor, for example?

Bobbin Cranbud · « **Reply #1697 on:** August 15, 2012, 06:45:52 PM »

Iron Man not only wasn't all that well known outside of comics circles, he wasn't even all that popular of a character in comics circles until the movies made him a household name.

I think Marvel benefited immensely from not having their most marketable heroes available for their shared universe. If Spider-Man and Wolverine had been available, would we have an Iron Man movie? I'd be stunned if we had a Thor movie.

On the DC side, it seems like they should do World's Finest (and probably Wonder Woman) between Man of Steel and Justice League. If nothing else, we've seen a superhero team movie now. That's not going to stop being cool, but it is going to not stand out anymore. A teamup between Superman and Batman would be a different thing, and a good leadin to a DC cinematic universe.

Anthony Edward Stark · « **Reply #1698 on:** August 15, 2012, 08:06:24 PM »

I would say prior to the Extremis arc and New Avengers, he was known mostly in comics circles for being the drunk guy who argued with Cap in the Avengers. But those books were widely popular and started to get more people interested in him (then again, New Avengers vol. 1 was the point a lot of those characters started to get more interest after the Avengers being kind of a second-tier book for a long time).

Grefter · « **Reply #1699 on:** September 11, 2012, 05:05:10 AM »

Cabin in the Woods - Surprising no one I loved this. Character actors I like in a Horror flick about horror flicks made for Cthulhu. Loved pretty much every twist they took on your horror tropes. A little disappointed that they didn't go down an alternate possible ending route I thought they flirted with twice. When Bradley Whitford make a reference to the virgin not being required for the sacrifice and later when Sigourney Weaver is talking we're both times I thought they might more implicitly invlolve Dana in the sacrifice. Mentally flirted with the possibility that they might have The Director be a former surviving Virgin herself or some such. Mostly I just wanted that so it could have been a franchise though. As is the ending is the most Whedon ending we could get, so whatevs. Interesting way to introduce someone to Cheis Hemsworth, little. Either hadn't seen Thor or Avengers. He is really quite good here, good comedic delivery.

God Bless America - This movie is exactly as stupid as it thinks it is, which is no where near as smart as it wants the audience to think it is. It is a petty revenge movie at the end of the day. For all that if you agree with its politics makes for some fun character moments, but they are hollow and meaningless in the end.

I know the writers knew this, but it bares repeating. Nabokov wasn't praising the thing he wrote about, not like the character references.

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Author Topic: Movies (Read 309297 times)