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« Reply #2725 on: August 31, 2016, 10:37:51 AM »
Becoming Miles Davis - 3/5.So, Don Cheadle made a movie. It was okay, but it ended way too quickly and without any clear reasons for the final scenes. I enjoyed the scenes with his wife the most, and appreciated a different sort of play on infidelity that you generally don't catch in FFBP. Otherwise, it would have been a 2/5. Think he got Miles's voice pretty correct and that was impressive.

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« Reply #2726 on: September 07, 2016, 10:40:01 AM »
I saw two very disappointing high profile movies: Shame and Broken Embraces

Broken Embraces was my first Almodovar. It is like nu-Woody Allen without any interesting dialogue. Is the appeal only in exotic Spanish locales/women/interior architectures? Plot and cinematography were mundane. I am not particularly impressed by the mise en abime.
This movie also really doesn't believe in Show don't Tell. Maybe it's more interested in showing how people tell stories than the stories themselves.


Shame is a movie about how Michael Fassbender has SUCH A HOT BOD everybody wants to have sex with him all the time BUT he can't have meaningful relationships because he watches too much porn. (Plus a hinted traumatic childhood) His sister is a wreck and hints at commiting suicide, and he blows her off, so she tries to commit suicide. The end.

The character is not interesting! So he pretty much just thinks about sex 24/7 and is annoyed at her sister because she gets in her life and he can't fuck her. The movie doesn't give him a voice, but it likes to make the music not fit the context of a scene, to create a dissonance, because the character is dissonant or something. This doesn't work very well. You also get scenes like Carey Mulligan singing all of New York New York for 5 minutes. Or Fassbender going for a 5 minutes jog.

Hints of sexual tension between family members are the only good part of the whole thing. This movie is like *Grefter/Zenny/insert random DLer* 's life in that way
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« Reply #2727 on: September 07, 2016, 12:03:45 PM »
Broken Embraces is incredibly melodramatic in a way that Almodovar usually isn't, at least not so explicitly. Although, thinking back on it, I don't remember very much about Almodovar's other movies. I saw them a long time ago and remember liking Talk to Her, All About My Mother, Bad Education, and Volver, but again, I only have vague recollections of them and don't have very many specific comments about them. Maybe that means I should revisit them but maybe it means none of them left a very strong impression on me.

Steve McQueen is somebody who I appreciate more on paper than in practice. His direction is always cold and austere and he specializes in protracted portrayals of misery/suffering but in an detached way that makes it so that I end up not actually caring. He is a very good director technically but has not done anything that completely works for me.

I've seen some things lately.

Don't Think Twice: Reinforces my belief that improv is a weird cult. I really like Gillian Jacobs and think she should be in everything.

Hell or High Water: Jeff Bridges is a national treasure. This isn't the first time he's played a mumbly, fart voiced sheriff before, but who cares because he's pretty great in the role. The movie itself doesn't actually contain much action, building relationships between characters by showing them shooting the shit. Wherever they are in Texas also seems kind of horrible and shows what happens when literally everybody has a gun. It also has a Big Short-esque commentary on banks, which I wasn't quite expecting. Worth watching. I think it's good but not as good as the universal acclaim it has gotten.

Lo and Behold, Reveries of the Connected World: I will watch anything by Werner Herzog and I was really excited when he was doing a documentary on the internet and technology. However, it is really diffuse and is broken up into small vignettes that don't really do their subject matter much justice, which makes me feel like this should have been like a TV miniseries rather than trying to cram everything into one doc. It covers some interesting topics, like robot soccer, self driving cars, variations of sunspots resulting into disasters on earth, Mars colonies, and artificial intelligence/consciousness, as well as the dark side of things like internet addiction/harassing assholes online, but it doesn't have time to go into any of these topics in very much depth. As such, it serves as a bit of a survey with shallow coverage of interesting subjects.

I thought he would spend more time with how shitty people can be to each other on the internet. That segment involves a family who have lost a child in a bad accident and the pictures of the kid's gruesome death were posted online, with some people harassing them. It's probably a fine story to illustrate things, but it's framed really strangely, taking place in their house before a wake or something, so the family is dressed in all black but there is a spread with croissants and fruit around the house while Herzog films the sad family silently staring into the distance for long shots with a nice food spread on the table. It is really strange and makes me wonder whether this was the only way that he could get them to approve getting footage of them.

Herzog specializes in humanity's relationship with nature and the sort of inexorable struggle we have with forces beyond our power, but he describes himself as a luddite and doesn't have the same insights when it comes to our relationship with technology. He has thinly veiled contempt for some of these things but the movie doesn't really have a clear thesis. Again, I think if he had more time with these subjects and it was more of a miniseries, this could be really good. As is, it's worth watching but still very uneven.

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« Reply #2728 on: September 11, 2016, 04:39:22 AM »
Watched John Wick.

Three things I'm ordinarily not thrilled about in movies:

-REVENGE
-No-holds-barred, adrenaline-fueled thrill rides
-Keanu Reeves

But the DL said it was worth watching so I thought I'd give it a shot.

Fortunately DL is usually right about these things.

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« Reply #2729 on: September 11, 2016, 11:10:23 AM »
John Wick 2 is legitimately one of my most anticipated movies next year.

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« Reply #2730 on: September 11, 2016, 11:54:08 AM »
Man Gourry I really cannot contribute much to the conversation. Except that I absolutely loved Herzog's crazy ridiculous Bad Lieutenant.

My girlfriend is a big movie buff so I'm watching one movie per day right now, but it's mostly obscure euro stuff. I've seen some really amazing movies but there wouldn't be much point talking about them?

I can talk about We Need To Talk About Kevin. Its symbolism is so unsubtle that it would probably be the best introduction to film studies for 12 years olds? The moral of the movie is very dubious (some people are just born evil and you can't do shit about it) but as someone who's favourite Harry Potter character is Drago Malefoy, I had a really good time! Yay!

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« Reply #2731 on: September 11, 2016, 01:42:39 PM »
I don't know if you can watch Shame this late and be surprised at anything. I'm also not sure how Euro audiences would be wowed by anything. But in the US, full frontal of a male with a very gifted fleshy penis was a treat that's been traditionally couched in stupid male jokes. I admit, the movie sucks, but I was more angry that the only person he couldn't get it up with was a black wummun. I'm a psycho, I get it.

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« Reply #2732 on: September 11, 2016, 01:57:08 PM »
American Hustle: Lived up to the reviews. Really funny and engaging, with great performances all around (easily the best work I've ever seen Jeremy Renner do, and Christian Bale is a fucking chameleon).
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« Reply #2733 on: September 11, 2016, 02:10:21 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kknXBbnppzA

this is one of my favorite scenes in Bad Lieutenant

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« Reply #2734 on: September 14, 2016, 02:51:21 PM »
Yeah that's when the entire theater lost it


I've now seen Almodovar's Time me Up tie me down
It was more entertaining than Broken Embraces, but : this might be the most morally bankrupt movie I've ever witnessed

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« Reply #2735 on: September 14, 2016, 03:06:23 PM »
Here is the plot.

Dude walks out of an asylum, stalks a girl, breaks inside her house and punches her. She blacks out and wakes up tied down and gagged. Dude says he will not let her go until she falls in love with him. Eventually she falls in love with him. They ride into the sunset, happy ending.

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« Reply #2736 on: September 14, 2016, 04:07:29 PM »
Almodovar has a lot of plots with questionable moral values, check out Talk to Her.

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« Reply #2737 on: September 14, 2016, 04:57:18 PM »
Jesus

I recently saw another movie with similarly disturbing implications (Verhoeven's Elle) but there was such a massive difference in how tastefully this was handled

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« Reply #2738 on: September 14, 2016, 11:28:37 PM »
It's rare that Verhoeven is more tasteful/sensitive than somebody.

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« Reply #2739 on: September 25, 2016, 02:58:16 PM »
American Hustle: Lived up to the reviews. Really funny and engaging, with great performances all around (easily the best work I've ever seen Jeremy Renner do, and Christian Bale is a fucking chameleon).

What about Jennifer Lawrence? I've been loving her in films other than Hunger Games. I felt like her in AH was like Amy Adams in the Fighter (which was also really good and uncharacteristic!)

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« Reply #2740 on: September 26, 2016, 09:25:48 PM »
Erased: Technically this is probably more fitting for the anime topic, but it's a live-action movie, so whatever.  I imagine Sopko's the only one who would care, but for those into Japanese movies, this was pretty good, actually.  Watched it on the flight back from DLCon (airlines & their international movie catalog).  Somewhat smarter than your average thriller, although there's still a few plot elements that they pull a fast one on if you bother to think too deeply about it.  Still, good times.

The Cabin in the Woods: WELCOME TO 2012, indeed.  It was really good!  This was up my alley, I liked it.  I'm not even really a horror movie fan either, you just need to be vaguely familiar with the conventions of the genre to enjoy it. 

Also, I really want someone to make some kind of Corpse Party-esque RPGMaker JHorror game w/ the Kyoto scenario.  Frog for the win!  This movie also had a real "Kronk, why do we even have that lever" moment in it.  You know which one.

So yeah. It was an interesting concept, and ... well, yeah. That's about it. I watched the whole thing, curious to see how it would end, but there was never really any suspense. Or horror, for that matter. I had no idea what the "twist" of the movie was (other than that it had a twist), but it was not subtle.

Eh, I liked the movie so I might be biased, but I don't agree?  The fact that scientists are monitoring & sort of controlling the events isn't the twist, that's setup from the very start.  The twist is WHY the scientists are doing this, and I thought that was subtle enough.

I think the movie would have been better if it had ended about five seconds earlier.

I liked the ending and prefer it with the final 5 seconds myself.
The movie needed to confirm that the eldritch horror threat from ancient gods placated & sealed by real-life horror film scenarios was real.  If it wasn't real, then viewers will assume that the scientists were just crazed cultists who got shut down, yay, happy ending, you can feel good that everybody in the other international scenarios escaped and "won".  So...  it makes it a better horror film within its own universe where there's a completely screwed up moral choice.

It's also better at the meta-level.  The ancient gods are the audience.  If they don't have their tastes appeased, they don't watch the movie, which stops more movies like that from ever existing - this is the equivalent to destroying the world.  So...  you gotta follow the ritual or else you literally won't exist and won't get funding.  No letting too many people live!  And you gotta kill 'em in the right order!  If the last 5 minutes are cut off, then maybe the audience will be happy that the ending went off script and not end the world, which is entirely too cheerful.  You can still have a note of hope in that maybe they'll just rampage through the countryside a bit, but there's gonna be consequences, and you won't like them.


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« Reply #2741 on: September 28, 2016, 10:49:20 PM »
I liked the ending and prefer it with the final 5 seconds myself.
The movie needed to confirm that the eldritch horror threat from ancient gods placated & sealed by real-life horror film scenarios was real.  If it wasn't real, then viewers will assume that the scientists were just crazed cultists who got shut down, yay, happy ending, you can feel good that everybody in the other international scenarios escaped and "won".  So...  it makes it a better horror film within its own universe where there's a completely screwed up moral choice.

It's also better at the meta-level.  The ancient gods are the audience.  If they don't have their tastes appeased, they don't watch the movie, which stops more movies like that from ever existing - this is the equivalent to destroying the world.  So...  you gotta follow the ritual or else you literally won't exist and won't get funding.  No letting too many people live!  And you gotta kill 'em in the right order!  If the last 5 minutes are cut off, then maybe the audience will be happy that the ending went off script and not end the world, which is entirely too cheerful.  You can still have a note of hope in that maybe they'll just rampage through the countryside a bit, but there's gonna be consequences, and you won't like them.


Yeah, but if you're approaching "ritualism in horror films" as a thing, you don't know that the audience likes it until after you're done. All you get are test audience results and pre-release reviews. That's why I think it works better if you cut it at exactly five seconds early, because the cabin shakes and you don't know exactly what's going to happen, just an overwhelming sense of foreboding.

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« Reply #2742 on: September 28, 2016, 11:09:32 PM »
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« Reply #2743 on: September 29, 2016, 08:55:57 AM »
I mean, by definition the concept of ritualism is that you do it because you see the process itself as being of importance, rather than because you understand the parts and can move them around. Once you justify ritual it ceases to be.

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« Reply #2744 on: October 13, 2016, 01:22:23 PM »
Deepwater Horizon, 8/10.

Even more distressing given the updates from the GoM and acquittals. I haven't seen a movie that's led by its effects & really good tension in a while.

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« Reply #2745 on: October 20, 2016, 04:18:06 PM »
Shin Godzilla - Godzilla is in this movie for like 20% of the runtime. The rest is bureaucrats in meetings talking about what to do about him and it's actually really funny. Actually if the whole movie were bureaucrats being weird and ineffective it'd be a trenchant statement and a better movie. As high ranking people die, officials get really ridiculous titles like "Giant Unidentified Creature Defense Force Replacement First Officer." Otherwise it is mostly anime bullshit but it's a sort of interesting take on the Godzilla concept.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGFBuPWYAQLge4.jpg

Godzilla evolves but this is one of its first forms. It has Cookie Monster eyes and is goofy as fuck.

Magnificent Seven - I watched this almost exclusively for Denzel and it's really bad.

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« Reply #2746 on: October 20, 2016, 11:08:21 PM »
Yeah, but if you're approaching "ritualism in horror films" as a thing, you don't know that the audience likes it until after you're done. All you get are test audience results and pre-release reviews. That's why I think it works better if you cut it at exactly five seconds early, because the cabin shakes and you don't know exactly what's going to happen, just an overwhelming sense of foreboding.

Late but I'm 100% with Rob on this one, if the ending plays to completion then the main characters are proven to be idiots and the film undermines its own metaphorical premise.
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« Reply #2747 on: October 29, 2016, 03:58:35 PM »
I just saw Moonlight, and I haven't figured out the right adjective yet but it was worthwhile. Gah, there were no skipped beats between the three generations of Black. I love that most.

I'll admit that I find myself excited by social tics that you can only recognize by living in a condition for so long. It's like, unless you live a certain intersectional identity you could have never written characters like this, and I believe that. Does that give the film more value? For me, insofar as character development seems genuinely cared for. It's great to see the positioning of more gazes in film. Also, shoutout to UT alum Trevante Rhodes. I think the whirlwind that will engulf him will help heal our theatre department since the recent homicide. So long as people see people doing things.

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« Reply #2748 on: October 30, 2016, 02:11:17 PM »
I watched the Big Short. I was alienated from 90% of the conversation. Bah, all that lingo. *looks up the film*

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« Reply #2749 on: November 02, 2016, 05:53:09 PM »
Casablanca - Good movie. I don't think it's as good as people make it out to be even though I can really see the hype in particular parts of the plot. I went into the movie blind meaning I didn't see the decision which Rick makes at the end coming; well I sorta did because I knew it wouldn't be deserving of its praise if it gone the way it was going. The cast was also pretty decent as well. They each do their job done well and it handles a love triangle in a way which other movies don't nowadays; and that is by making the opposing male (Victor) likeable with understandable motives rather than a one-note asshole, like every other Romantic False Lead. Instead of being this generic nice guy, we see that Rick is actually pretty jaded and pulls the rejection from Ilsa on to himself; sure he was drunk but he's still pretty snide to her when sober during that market scene. Ilsa was okay and we learn enough about her to know what made her want to start an affair; even though otherwise she was just there in comparison to the other leads.

My biggest issue with the film is the pacing during the beginning parts. It took a while to establish each of the cast members and the equilibrium of the film's story. Other films have longer equilibriums than Casablanca but they're at least excused with longer running times. Bear in mind that the pacing in the beginning is merely the reason why I don't think this movie is as good as a movie like The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption. I still think this is a fine A-Tier movie which seems to have aged pretty well.

My first time analysing a romance like this. Excuse it for being rather half-baked.

Something I was doing since a couple of days ago was watching Shaun of the Dead (a dumb little joke me and my brother did for the sake of Halloween). And yeah, this movie is as good as I remember it. I love how Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright add little bonuses in their plots in order to make re-watching their movies a great experience. The film is probably the middle one of the trilogy in my opinion; Hot Fuzz has even more laughs and a better cast whilst The World's End is fundamentally flawed.