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« Reply #425 on: June 15, 2009, 12:55:07 AM »
Apparantly it's because it's the train leaving from Pelham Bay at 1:23.

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« Reply #426 on: June 15, 2009, 12:59:35 AM »
How many remade movies actually needed the remakes anyways?

John Travolta is certainly one of the actors that I can no longer completely buy in a movie, though.
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« Reply #427 on: June 15, 2009, 01:25:59 AM »
How many remade movies actually needed the remakes anyways?

That depends. "Needed" in the sense that the original movie had a good premise/source material but maybe the execution could've been better? I'm struggling to think of one. People remake classics instead, because they are classics, and thus you have a known commodity that people can recognize and which will make your new movie stand out in a crowd (even if only a little). This, of course, is the studio's reason for liking remakes. I'm really struggling to think of one that improved on the original artistically, though.
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« Reply #428 on: June 15, 2009, 03:47:44 AM »
I preferred the remade Ocean's Eleven to the original. Whether it was honestly -better- or I just liked the actors more, I couldn't say.

The sequels are a different story.

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« Reply #429 on: June 15, 2009, 10:11:38 AM »
The Twelve Angry Men remake likewise probably didn't need to be made, but it at least felt slightly different in how it played thanks to the different leads, and both of them felt equally good.

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« Reply #430 on: June 15, 2009, 06:43:56 PM »
Actually, a really obvious example occurred to me: Lord of the Rings. I don't think anyone's going to dispute that the Peter Jackson trilogy is better than the animated movies.

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« Reply #431 on: June 15, 2009, 08:36:22 PM »
Actually, a really obvious example occurred to me: Lord of the Rings. I don't think anyone's going to dispute that the Peter Jackson trilogy is better than the animated movies.

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Better for different reasons, admittedly.

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« Reply #432 on: June 15, 2009, 09:56:26 PM »
I dunno, Peter Jackson version didn't have "Where there's a whip, there's a way!".

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« Reply #433 on: June 15, 2009, 10:23:41 PM »
Actually, a really obvious example occurred to me: Lord of the Rings. I don't think anyone's going to dispute that the Peter Jackson trilogy is better than the animated movies.

I'm sure there are some worthy, even superior remakes out there, but I don't think this counts.  They're 2 separate movies based on the same source material, but I wouldn't say the latter is based at all on the former.

Oh, and Ocean's 11.  never seen the first, but I'll agree the remake justifies its existence.
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« Reply #434 on: June 21, 2009, 08:30:57 AM »
The Twelve Angry Men remake likewise probably didn't need to be made, but it at least felt slightly different in how it played thanks to the different leads, and both of them felt equally good.

Wow, didn't even know that got remade, I've only seen the 1957 version.  You can tell it's based on a play, though, so I'm not surprised it holds up well to different interpretations by different casts.

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« Reply #435 on: June 21, 2009, 11:28:01 PM »
Year One:  Moderately amusing, but not really worth theater prices.  Bizarre mix of Cavemen and early Bible stuff.  Gets a point just for this line though:  "We are the Hebrews!  The righteous ones!  ...Not very good at sports..."

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« Reply #436 on: June 25, 2009, 01:24:41 PM »
TF2 was a pretty shitty film.
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« Reply #437 on: June 28, 2009, 01:32:49 AM »
I finally saw Batman: The Dark Night. It was okay but not great, Ledger's Joker didn't do it for me for some reason I can't pin down. Still not a bad movie anyway.
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« Reply #438 on: July 08, 2009, 01:10:44 AM »
Synecdoche, New York: Not as rewarding as Adaptation or Eternal Sunshine, but the Charlie Kaufman brand of weirdness is out in full force and I did enjoy the staggering insanity on display. Grady Tripp has nothing on Caden Cotard. I could only shake my head when it became apparent that he'd built a duplicate warehouse inside the warehouse-stage that housed his neverending play solely for the purpose of verisimilitude. Or built a larger warehouse over his original one. Actually, I think both happened. It seemed like his production had actually eaten the city by the end. Ultimately had some difficulty enjoying the movie as a drama, though. The more surreal touches (the burning house) were more just random here, as opposed to actually helping to propel the story forward. Also, if Caden had invested 10% of the effort he applied to his art on actually living his life, he wouldn't have had so many damn problems in the first place. This was probably the point of the movie, but it's harder for me to sympathize here than in, say, Adaptation, in part due to scale: we see most of the main character's life here and he barely changes at all. Still a neat movie, just not Kaufman's best work.

Hancock: Well, it was half of a fun movie. If it was all just about the title character's rehabilitation, I would've been fine with that even if it just led to the expected, uplifting Hollywood ending. He was enough of a douche at the beginning that that process probably could've been strung out for the movie's full runtime (with interruptions for the obligatory superhero hijinks). It would've been watchable, if still routine. Instead, the movie went badly awry when it tried to introduce backstory and mythology. Guys, you're writing a movie about a superhuman drunk; you seem okay with the light comedy that demands but you just do not have the chops to turn it into anything more complicated. Oh well, at least it got Jason Bateman a paycheck.

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« Reply #439 on: July 08, 2009, 01:18:10 AM »
So basically it's what El-Hazard would be if Fujisawa was the main character and it sucked?
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« Reply #440 on: July 08, 2009, 01:22:41 AM »
I liked Hancock >.>

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« Reply #441 on: July 08, 2009, 01:23:12 AM »
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« Reply #442 on: July 08, 2009, 01:45:09 AM »
So basically it's what El-Hazard would be if Fujisawa was the main character and it sucked?

That could never happen.
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« Reply #443 on: July 08, 2009, 02:55:38 AM »
I just watched Push.



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« Reply #444 on: July 08, 2009, 04:29:13 AM »
So basically it's what El-Hazard would be if Fujisawa was the main character and it sucked?

I have no idea who that person is and only a vague idea of what that show is. So uh.

And hey, I didn't say Hancock was totally without merit, Soppy. Just that it...decided to be about something different halfway through and that something turned out to be trainwrecky (as a rule, I am not real fond of trainwrecking when it lacks amusing commentary). It goes from parodying comic books to pretending to be one, complete with melodrama and needlessly complicated backstory. There was no need to switch gears when it was competent enough at the former approach.

EDIT: I thought the writer's name sounded familiar. Well, two are credited, but Vince Gilligan was the name I knew. X-Files writer, also produced the last couple (craptacular) seasons. Explains a lot. IMDB also informs me that the director of Hancock is slated to do a Dune remake next year. Reallly don't think we need another attempt at filming that.
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« Reply #445 on: July 08, 2009, 05:21:56 AM »
El Hazard is a "high school student teleported to another world" show in which everybody so transported gets superpowers assigned at random. The kid's teacher's power is that he has prodigious superhuman strength when he's not drunk. His favorite application of said power is to knock down any walls between him and the nearest liquor cabinet.
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« Reply #446 on: July 08, 2009, 02:18:33 PM »
El Hazard always struck me as "Anime cliches to the max, but done well."


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Watched two lackluster suspense films today.

"Karla" (oddly enough, called "Monster" in Japan) is a suspense flick based on the lives of two real-life serial killers from the 70s. It's told as a frame story in flashback as the titular (accused) serial killer Karla is recalling the events of the murders to a psychotherapist who will determine whether she deserves parole. Karla tells a story where she falls in love with a great guy who turns out to have a thing for raping girls and beating his wife, which escalates out of control as Karla finds herself part of the creepy sex fetish and subsequent murders (because she loves him!). The acting holds up pretty well, but the entire conflict is portrayed more like a Lifetime movie than a suspense flick. It's only at the very end when anything resembling creepy appears when it turns out that Karla may or may not have been a more willing participant in the murders than her story implies. It's too bad as it could have been cool if it didn't move at a snail's pace.

Number 2 was "Hannibal Rising". I've only ever seen "Silence of the Lambs" which is one of my favorite films ever and while I've heard tons of reviews saying that the sequels ruin the movie, I found myself with the morbid curiosity to see how bad they could be. After all, I love cheesy horror films! Well, Hannibal Rising is less 'cheesy' and more 'artsy and slow', so I didn't really get any of the suspense of the original film NOR the splatterfest I was expecting from a poorly-done film about a serial killer/cannibal. What a let down, this movie can't even do 'cheesy' right! The story isn't that bad and sometimes it's almost creepy, but it would have done better if it wasn't a prequel to Silence of the Lambs. I mean, who doesn't love a good story about a young child getting traumatized and then seeking revenge on his tormentors by eating them? (The plot of Digital Devil Saga?!) Overall though, it gets points for making Hannibal younger and sexier, which really fits into the 'cheesy' category that I find so amusing!


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« Reply #447 on: July 14, 2009, 03:55:39 AM »
Watched Bruno. I'm pretty sure the best part is a woman saying she would give her baby liposuction to get her in a photo shoot where she would wear a baby Nazi uniform and push a baby Jew in to a baby Jew oven.

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« Reply #448 on: July 14, 2009, 09:10:58 AM »
Watched Bruno. I'm pretty sure the best part is a woman saying she would give her baby liposuction to get her in a photo shoot where she would wear a baby Nazi uniform and push a baby Jew in to a baby Jew oven.

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« Reply #449 on: July 14, 2009, 02:56:48 PM »
Pump Up The Volume.  Christian Slater as a teenager in 1990 (pre-grunge for people counting) having a pirate radio station winding up kids into a frenzy of distrust for the system and a fucked up school and to not put up with the bullshit and see the truth.  Of course this whole movie is a lie.  Still it is a fun romp and isn't a bad slice of late 80's early 90's youth culture.  Bonus points for taste in music.  Leonard Cohen and MC5.  Good times.  Also bonus points for a young Seth Green.
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