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« Reply #500 on: August 23, 2009, 06:53:08 PM »
I want to see Inglorious Bastards, but I think I'm more hyped for Sherlock Holmes. But that's on Christmas Day, so . . .  yeeeeah, Inglorious Bastards it is. I'm hoping the trailer isn't better than the movie.

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« Reply #501 on: August 24, 2009, 03:27:25 AM »
Ponyo: I didn't dislike it, but it's nowhere near as engaging as Miyazaki's other works.  It's basically one long acid trip - I have no idea what Miyazaki was smoking but I hope it's illegal.  There's a total lack of conflict in the movie.  He managed to pull that off successfully in Totoro, but here it doesn't work.

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« Reply #502 on: August 25, 2009, 06:03:38 PM »
Talladega Nights: Went into the movie knowing nothing about it other than the name and the fact that it shipped with launch PS3s.  Loved it.  (From the name of "exotic-word nights" I was expecting some kind of spicy romance.  Instead it was an over-the-top comedy about Nascar.  Well worth watching regardless).

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« Reply #503 on: August 25, 2009, 09:33:54 PM »
Talladega Nights: Went into the movie knowing nothing about it other than the name and the fact that it shipped with launch PS3s.  Loved it.  (From the name of "exotic-word nights" I was expecting some kind of spicy romance.  Instead it was an over-the-top comedy about Nascar.  Well worth watching because the other movie it could have been would have blown hard.).

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« Reply #504 on: August 25, 2009, 11:29:35 PM »
"If I had to compare the German people to a beast, I would compare them to the hawk. A noble predator. If I had to compare the Jewish people to a beast, I would suggest the rat. Unlike my fellow Germans, though, I mean this as a compliment. Once a human has abandoned dignity, he can be resourceful indeed." -Hans Landa, paraphrased

I thought this was usual villainous babble when I first heard the line (it's in the beginning section of the movie), but considering how Inglourious Basterds proceeds, with Landa generally right and the Jews indeed abandoning any trace of chivalry to be the bad guys...  it seems the film actually agrees with this sentiment.  That the Jews are indeed rats, and further that this is a good thing.

It's a good movie, mind, solidly made with great scenes alternately tense and funny, just...  man, I'm not sure how much Tarantino realizes the leviathan-sized moral questions his movie contains.  This really is a movie about Jewish psychotic killers vs. the noble Nazi underdogs, except that knowing Tarantino, he probably thinks that said psychotic killers are cool, which changes the moral calculus a bunch.  I just...  don't know.  I mean, Tarantino's a smart guy.  A main plot point of the film concerns "Nation's Pride," a German film in which a war hero guns down tons of Allies.  Hitler is shown laughing it up as he watches the movie.  Repeatedly.  And Basterds is certainly a funny movie, with plenty of laughter in the crowd as the Nazis get killed left and right.  This HAS to be intentional, that Nation's Pride and Inglorious Basterds are the same movie...  if I didn't know better, I might think that this was some kind of masterful postmodernist "show something by doing the opposite," except that I think Tarantino really does think revenge / exploitation movies are cool from interviews. ???

So yeah.  Definitely a thought-provoking comedy-drama, if surprisingly light on action (there is literally maybe 10 seconds in the film of the Basterds' guerilla activities in France).  Also realism is non-existent but that isn't really the point.  I'm not sure I took from it what Tarantino intended, but it was certainly worth viewing.

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« Reply #505 on: August 26, 2009, 03:38:46 AM »
Max Payne-  A film about the Max Payne movie, with Milia Kunis, Ludacris as the good guy cop, and Mark Wahlberg as Max. It's as awful as you'd expect.
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« Reply #506 on: August 26, 2009, 05:31:49 AM »
The Bad Seed: Is pretty much the grandmother of all those evil-little-kid-kills-people movies. Which is an unfortunate legacy because this is actually a good movie (on account of relying on dialogue and acting instead of titillation--none of the murders happen onscreen). It's impossible not to sympathize with the mom, creepy deviant Leroy does an admirable act of Obfuscating Stupidity...and there had to be something wrong with the actress playing that little girl. She was a model sociopath: bereft of all human emotion, but calculating enough to mimic it when doing so would earn a favorable response from the adults around her, drops the act completely around the one person who makes it clear he can see right through it, explodes in an unholy fury when thwarted. This must be what Ann Coulter was like as a kid.

Mind, the movie bears all the hallmarks of the fifties--there's a fair amount of what VSM has referred to as "'Aw shucks' earnestness," but still, this is a movie where an eight-year-old girl lights a dude on fire and then wanders off to practice the piano while he burns. It's about as warped as 1956 Hollywood would let you be. Though apparently there was some meddling with the ending. On that note, it was about ten minutes longer than it had to be.

I would've been totally cool with the movie ending with the mom drugging the hellspawn into oblivion, just because of how well that scene played out. It didn't serve much purpose to have the docs revive the kid just so she could be smote by the wrath of Zeus immediately thereafter. I'd guess the Hays Code frowned upon a mother killing her daughter, no matter how horrible a creature it was, so they had to find some way to take the responsibility out of her hands. Wikipedia informs me that they did change the ending from the source material, at least: apparently, mom dies, devil child lives in the original story. Supposedly the censors objected to this because it showed a criminal coming out on top. I'd object to it because it would be lame and also fucking depressing. I know this movie predated the cliches of modern horror films by decades, but still, I don't have enough words to describe how much I loathe the standard "OH WAIT THE HERO GETS SCREWED OVER AT THE LAST MINUTE AND THE VILLAIN IS STILL ALIVE LOLOL" ending.

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« Reply #507 on: August 26, 2009, 05:45:44 AM »
In general horror as a genre seems to feel that the ultimate terror is the inability to fight fate and the utter helplessness of human beings.

This is also why I tend to strongly dislike horror as a genre.
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« Reply #508 on: August 26, 2009, 06:11:36 AM »
Hey, it beats GUY WITH BIG KNIFE as far as I'm concerned. Just don't take it seriously as a worldview.

Barbarella: Precisely 12.65% of my brain cells died while watching this movie. The filmmakers obviously expected the audience to be on immense amounts of drugs while viewing it. They were clearly doing so while making it. The main character flies around in what can only be some manner of alien sex toy, of which every interior surface is covered in orange shag carpet. This is merely the tip of the iceberg. It is an astonishingly ugly piece of kitsch and finely calibrated to make me hate it, but Snow should see it at once.

I have to ask why you even entertained the possibility that it wouldn't be that. The packaging can't have been too subtle for you.
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« Reply #509 on: August 26, 2009, 06:12:54 AM »
Barbarella: Precisely 12.65% of my brain cells died while watching this movie. The filmmakers obviously expected the audience to be on immense amounts of drugs while viewing it. They were clearly doing so while making it. The main character flies around in what can only be some manner of alien sex toy, of which every interior surface is covered in orange shag carpet. This is merely the tip of the iceberg. It is an astonishingly ugly piece of kitsch and finely calibrated to make me hate it, but Snow should see it at once.

Way ahead of you, I watched it when I was like 18. Also, you really need 100% more snark in your bloodcells, that movie is the funniest thing this side of DDS2 plot.
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« Reply #510 on: August 26, 2009, 07:39:19 AM »
I saw Inglourious Bastards more as a movie that's about wartime movies, myself.

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« Reply #511 on: August 26, 2009, 08:11:20 AM »
My friends and I are getting together for a movie marathon (no real theme), and we each chose a movie to watch. Overall, I think my friend's have pretty awesome taste. ;p
The movies we chose are;

Fight Club
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Into the Wild
Little Miss Sunshine
Milk
American History X

I am certainly look forward to it. =)
The one I chose was Fight Club, if anyone's curious. One of my friends actually also chose Fight Club, but changed her movie to Eternal Sunshine.
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« Reply #512 on: August 26, 2009, 09:33:15 AM »
Saw District 9, basically just gonna reaffirm Idun's rant in that it is seriously awesome.  Zombieland also looks like a must see, and already have plans to catch it with a friend.

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« Reply #513 on: August 26, 2009, 09:36:35 AM »
I saw Inglourious Bastards more as a movie that's about wartime movies, myself.

This is what it is.  Also it probably is the post modern thing about how the movie is the movie inside the movie.  Tarantino will still love violence exploitation done well, but that is why it is post modern.

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and there had to be something wrong with the actress playing that little girl. She was a model sociopath: bereft of all human emotion, but calculating enough to mimic it when doing so would earn a favorable response from the adults around her, drops the act completely around the one person who makes it clear he can see right through it, explodes in an unholy fury when thwarted. This must be what Ann Coulter was like as a kid.

Sounds like a child actor to me.

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On horror movies.  The genre is pure shit.  This is why you watch the bad ones, because they make the "good" ones worse.  Or make the actually genuinely fucking creepy ones amazing.
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« Reply #514 on: August 26, 2009, 01:08:08 PM »
Barbarella: Precisely 12.65% of my brain cells died while watching this movie. The filmmakers obviously expected the audience to be on immense amounts of drugs while viewing it. They were clearly doing so while making it. The main character flies around in what can only be some manner of alien sex toy, of which every interior surface is covered in orange shag carpet. This is merely the tip of the iceberg. It is an astonishingly ugly piece of kitsch and finely calibrated to make me hate it, but Snow should see it at once.

I have to ask why you even entertained the possibility that it wouldn't be that. The packaging can't have been too subtle for you.

Oh, I had no real expectation of quality. Sometimes I rent famous movies just to see what the big deal is.

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Saw District 9, basically just gonna reaffirm Idun's rant in that it is seriously awesome.  Zombieland also looks like a must see, and already have plans to catch it with a friend.

Zombieland looked like it used up all its jokes in the trailer. Personally not expecting much from it. It was funnier when it was called Shaun of the Dead.

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and there had to be something wrong with the actress playing that little girl. She was a model sociopath: bereft of all human emotion, but calculating enough to mimic it when doing so would earn a favorable response from the adults around her, drops the act completely around the one person who makes it clear he can see right through it, explodes in an unholy fury when thwarted. This must be what Ann Coulter was like as a kid.

Sounds like a child actor to me.

They're rarely this convincing (the actress was apparently even nominated for an Oscar, which doesn't happen often with child actors for the simple reason that most of them suck). You can almost see the little wheels turning in her head as she works out how to best exploit every human being around her.

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Eternal Sunshine hype goes here. Best out of those movies in my opinion, Piggyman. Fight Club's entertaining just as long as you're not watching it with anyone who takes Tyler Durden seriously, I enjoyed American History X when I saw it but that was like in high school or something, Little Miss Sunshine is pretty typical indie fare though with a careful eye for targeting mass appeal more than most such movies. It's very twee, like it's consciously exploiting its own quirkiness. It's okay, but eh. Paints in broad strokes and the pageant itself was traumatizing (which was the point but still, ewww).

Haven't seen Into the Wild or Milk. They're on the Netflix queue, but that's like 200 items long at this point, so.

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« Reply #515 on: August 26, 2009, 01:34:48 PM »
There was a joke about how bad children actors are in there, just as a heads up.
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« Reply #516 on: August 26, 2009, 05:11:52 PM »
I decided to ignore the snark because I know how much you love explaining jokes.

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« Reply #517 on: August 27, 2009, 12:51:28 PM »
As much as I love explaining jokes, here is some revenge.  I present to you the plot of Nightmare Man and everything wrong with horror movies today.

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The film is about a tormented woman (Ellen) who believes there is a supernatural thing trying to kill her—her "nightmare man". Her husband and doctors believe she's a paranoid schizophrenic. On the way to psychiatric ward, the Morris' car breaks down. When her husband goes to get gas, Ellen stays behind and is attacked by her mysterious, horrifying enemy, the Nightmare Man. Escaping into the nearby woods, Ellen stumbles upon a country house where two young couples are spending the weekend who are now also in danger. They do not know if the killer is real or just a figment of Ellen's tortured mind nor if the killer is outside or already inside the house. As people start dying, nobody knows whom they can trust. Near the end of the film, the killer is revealed to be a hitman hired by Ellen's husband to kill her before learning about his affairs. Ellen reveals she is possessed by the real Nightmare Man, a demon who enters a female body first by getting them to wear his mask, then he rapes them. As the Nightmare Man, she kills the hitman and her husband. She sets her sights on Mia, the survivor, who kills Ellen, but is stripped and raped by the Nightmare Man's spirit. She is left in an institution, where the doctor decides to take her off her pills, which are the only things that keep the demon asleep.
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« Reply #518 on: August 27, 2009, 02:19:17 PM »
...That's terribl...y awesome.

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« Reply #519 on: August 27, 2009, 02:21:47 PM »
No.  Terribly awesome is JCVH

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« Reply #520 on: August 28, 2009, 05:13:08 AM »
Fight Club's entertaining just as long as you're not watching it with anyone who takes Tyler Durden seriously

People still do that? I thought by now, people had figured out what the message of the story was (you know, the effects of gesselschaft).

Also, better than the Nightmare Man? The Night Man. Assuming that Nightmare Man didn't have Danny DeVito in it.
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« Reply #521 on: August 28, 2009, 05:32:09 AM »
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« Reply #522 on: August 28, 2009, 06:10:30 AM »
Stupid people usually move on very quickly, as stupidity tends to carry with it short attention spans.

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« Reply #523 on: August 28, 2009, 06:52:29 AM »
Watched both HellBoy movies for the first time in a single sitting. Visual feast. Decent characterization. The lead actress needs to learn how to act, though.

HellBoy 2 wins the award for "best RL Sephiroth clone", though. Dubious honor though it may be.

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« Reply #524 on: August 28, 2009, 06:54:37 AM »
Liz?  I dunno, seems to me that she came across as damaged and a bit fucked up emotionally, which seems appropriate.  Granted, haven't seen Hellboy 2.
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