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Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« on: July 05, 2008, 09:57:33 PM »
Results
Levin- 55% (11-9 (5-6; 6-3))
Deamoned- 50.7% (34-33 (11-24; 24-9))
Lloyd- 45.2% (28-34 (8-25; 21-10))
Hugo- 44.3% (31-39 (7-28; 24-10))
Harken- 34.8% (23-43 (6-27; 17-16))
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Solofia- 24.6% (15-46 (3-27; 12-19))
Billy- 24.2% (15-47 (3-31; 12-17))

Harken managed to overcome votesplit...by having both Billy and Solofia crash pretty hard. Billy is missing that Defense buff greatly. Most of the rest managed the Godlike portion pretty badly, but turned it around against the Heavies.

This Week's Competitors
Elvis- The speed, the limit: Both are excellence. However, massive elemental weaknesses is never a good idea.
Kartikeya- He doesn't have Elvis's extreme speed...but he's also only weak to Earth (Well...arguably Ice with starting leypoints!)
Galcian- PCs blanch at his damage and Instant Death. Unless they block Lightning and have ID protection.
Artea- Speed+Healing that basially never runs out is a scary combo.
Tibarn 9- Borderline OHKO and 55% evasion, on top of excellent HP, defense, mdef, and status resistance.
Demi- Tanking+Healing that very rarely runs out is a scary combo.
Marcello- If Leopold can do it, is Marcello next?

The Matches
Elvis   vs   Diekbeck
Elvis   vs   Lamington
Elvis   vs   Jecht
Elvis   vs   Kato
Elvis   vs   Nate (P1)
Elvis   vs   Hrist
Elvis   vs   Garai
Elvis   vs   Lyn
Elvis   vs   Zerase
Elvis   vs   Legretta
Elvis   vs   Surt
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Kartikeya   vs   Diekbeck
Kartikeya   vs   Lamington
Kartikeya   vs   Jecht
Kartikeya   vs   Kato
Kartikeya   vs   Nate (P1)
Kartikeya   vs   Hrist
Kartikeya   vs   Garai
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn
Kartikeya   vs   Zerase
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta
Kartikeya   vs   Surt
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Galcian   vs   Diekbeck
Galcian   vs   Lamington
Galcian   vs   Jecht
Galcian   vs   Kato
Galcian   vs   Nate (P1)
Galcian   vs   Hrist
Galcian   vs   Garai
Galcian   vs   Lyn
Galcian   vs   Zerase
Galcian   vs   Legretta
Galcian   vs   Surt
Galcian   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Artea   vs   Diekbeck
Artea   vs   Lamington
Artea   vs   Jecht
Artea   vs   Kato
Artea   vs   Nate (P1)
Artea   vs   Hrist
Artea   vs   Garai
Artea   vs   Lyn
Artea   vs   Zerase
Artea   vs   Legretta
Artea   vs   Surt
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Tibarn   vs   Diekbeck
Tibarn   vs   Lamington
Tibarn   vs   Jecht
Tibarn   vs   Kato
Tibarn   vs   Nate (P1)
Tibarn   vs   Hrist
Tibarn   vs   Garai
Tibarn   vs   Lyn
Tibarn   vs   Zerase
Tibarn   vs   Legretta
Tibarn   vs   Surt
Tibarn   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Demi   vs   Diekbeck
Demi   vs   Lamington
Demi   vs   Jecht
Demi   vs   Kato
Demi   vs   Nate (P1)
Demi   vs   Hrist
Demi   vs   Garai
Demi   vs   Lyn
Demi   vs   Zerase
Demi   vs   Legretta
Demi   vs   Surt
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Marcello   vs   Diekbeck
Marcello   vs   Lamington
Marcello   vs   Jecht
Marcello   vs   Kato
Marcello   vs   Nate (P1)
Marcello   vs   Hrist
Marcello   vs   Garai
Marcello   vs   Lyn
Marcello   vs   Zerase
Marcello   vs   Legretta
Marcello   vs   Surt
Marcello   vs   Maya (WA 3)


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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 10:39:36 PM »
Artea   vs   Diekbeck - Abstain.  Don't know AtL2 Diek as well as I'd like.
Artea   vs   Lamington - No vote
Artea   vs   Jecht - No vote
Artea   vs   Kato - No vote
Artea   vs   Nate (P1) - Kneejerk based off what I know.  Open to arguments
Artea   vs   Hrist - No vote
Artea   vs   Garai - Yeah, no.
Artea   vs   Lyn - Isn't doubled, likely 2HKOs, not seeing a KE crit happening before then, which Lyn needs.  Evasion may be enough to change my vote, but I'd have to see Lyn as going first, which I don't think I do.
Artea   vs   Zerase - No vote
Artea   vs   Legretta - No vote
Artea   vs   Surt - Haven't seen Surt, no vote.
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3) - No vote.

Demi   vs   Diekbeck - No vote
Demi   vs   Lamington - No vote
Demi   vs   Jecht - No vote
Demi   vs   Kato - No vote
Demi   vs   Nate (P1) - Also a kneejerk, also open to arguments here.
Demi   vs   Hrist - No vote
Demi   vs   Garai
Demi   vs   Lyn - Don't see Lyn pulling this off at all.
Demi   vs   Zerase - No vote
Demi   vs   Legretta - No vote
Demi   vs   Surt - No vote
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3) - No vote

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 11:09:16 PM »
Elvis   vs   Diekbeck- Unsure here. Need to check something, I think.
Elvis   vs   Lamington- Elvis. Ice/Water is what he gets to block.
Elvis   vs   Jecht- Jecht.
Elvis   vs   Kato- Elvis. I think. Pretty similar to Karti here, except Elvis is like 40% faster.
Elvis   vs   Nate (P1)- Elvis. So much speed and the limit is killer for the bottom 40% of his HP (Which is just about where Nate has trouble chipping around)
Elvis   vs   Hrist- Hrist. Kind of gut, since they are somewhat similar, but she’s faster than the charge times.
Elvis   vs   Lyn- Elvis. No doubles=bad for Lyn.
Elvis   vs   Zerase- Elvis. Faster, Zerase PDur.
Elvis   vs   Legretta- Legretta. Gut reaction is that Legretta’s chipping range is more dangerous since her damage at 75% (against Elvis) is similar to Elvis’ at 0%.
Elvis   vs   Surt- Surt. Firey smash here.
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Elvis. Maya is kind of like Legretta here, except slightly worse HP threshold on the limit, and the limit does a lot less since no Fire weakness.
     
Kartikeya   vs   Diekbeck- Diekbeck. Faster.
Kartikeya   vs   Lamington- Kartikeya. Halves Lamington’s best with starting hex.
Kartikeya   vs   Jecht- Jecht.
Kartikeya   vs   Kato- Kato. About equal HP to me, Kartikeya needs to charge for damage, while Kato doesn’t since he can just hit Kartikeya’s weakness.
Kartikeya   vs   Nate (P1)- Nate. Kartikeya can’t 2HKO with normal stuff or OHKO with a charging, so Light All+Heal.
Kartikeya   vs   Hrist- Karti. Chip with Wind magic.
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn- Karti. Avoids the Killer double to me, I think.
Kartikeya   vs   Zerase- Kartiekeya. Zerase Pdur.
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta- Legretta. He doesn’t like the Pdur.
Kartikeya   vs   Surt- Surt. Think OPB Heal gives him enough time to pull this off.
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Karti. Bionic Arm+Lock On
     
Galcian   vs   Diekbeck- Diekbeck. Faster, makes it easy.
Galcian   vs   Lamington- Lamington. Just better.
Galcian   vs   Jecht- Jecht. Galcian would take this if he had better HP.
Galcian   vs   Kato- Galcian. Damage edge works here.
Galcian   vs   Nate (P1)- Nate. Bad stuff for Galcian here.
Galcian   vs   Hrist- Hrist. 50% Lightning Res.
Galcian   vs   Lyn- Galcian
Galcian   vs   Zerase- Galcian
Galcian   vs   Legretta- Galcian. He chips with Eternum to keep her the 4HKO range, and then she only gets one hit in the near OHKO range. This should barely see Galcian to victory.
Galcian   vs   Surt- Surt. Think both 3HKO each other to me. However,
Galcian   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Galcian. Starts off with that damage.
     
Artea   vs   Diekbeck- Unsure, need to checking something.
Artea   vs   Lamington- Artea. Faster haste-healing should work here.
Artea   vs   Jecht- Jecht. Stone.
Artea   vs   Kato- Kato. PC Killing is his game.
Artea   vs   Nate (P1)- Nate. Status.
Artea   vs   Hrist- Hrist. He has the issues with getting past that limit range, I think.
Artea   vs   Lyn- Artea. Kills her doubles, which she doesn’t like.
Artea   vs   Zerase- Artea. Faster and just plain 2HKOs.
Artea   vs   Legretta- Legretta. Feels like Artea
Artea   vs   Surt- Surt. Smashes through.
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Artea. Chip, wait for doubles.
     
Demi   vs   Diekbeck- Diekbeck. Faster, would see skill charges getting hit by MP drains and such.
Demi   vs   Lamington- Demi. Lamington is 3HKOing here with his best (Physical) after she throws up Barrier, which should give her enough time.
Demi   vs   Jecht- Depends on if I would see Demi hittable by Delay.
Demi   vs   Kato- Kato. Well, MP busting+damage hurts, Twilight Howl is gaining like a 35% Weakness.
Demi   vs   Nate (P1)- Nate. Light All+More resources.
Demi   vs   Hrist- Hrist. Demi has issues chipping here.
Demi   vs   Lyn- Lyn. Doubles, with will be bad for Demi.
Demi   vs   Zerase- Zerase. OHKO.
Demi   vs   Legretta- Legretta. Demi trying to chip with physicals isn’t the best strat here.
Demi   vs   Surt- Demi. Fire res, More healing!
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Maya. Don’t think the speed difference is enough.
     
Marcello   vs   Diekbeck- Diekbeck.
Marcello   vs   Lamington- Lamington. Just better.
Marcello   vs   Jecht- Jecht. Has over double the durability, Marcello doesn’t have double the damage.
Marcello   vs   Kato- Marcello
Marcello   vs   Nate (P1)- Nate. Faster, Light All+Healing
Marcello   vs   Hrist- Marcello. Glad VP 2 doesn’t have Wind.
Marcello   vs   Lyn- Well, I think Lyn is still doubling…don’t know.
Marcello   vs   Zerase- Marcello. Her defense being checked twice…bad stuff there. Also, he’s faster (But not by much)
Marcello   vs   Legretta- Marcello, I think.
Marcello   vs   Surt- Surt. OPB Healing does this one.
Marcello   vs   Maya (WA 3)- Unsure.

Elvis 6-4 (3-2; 4-2) (Surprising)
Galcian 5-6 (1-5; 4-1)
Kartikeya 5-6 (2-4; 3-2)
Marcello 4-5 (2-4; 2-1)
Artea 4-6 (1-4; 3-2)
Demi 2-8 (1-4; 1-4)
« Last Edit: July 12, 2008, 04:08:21 AM by Dhyerwolf »
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 01:06:07 AM »
Elvis- The speed, the limit: Both are excellence. However, massive elemental weaknesses is never a good idea.
Kartikeya- He doesn't have Elvis's extreme speed...but he's also only weak to Earth (Well...arguably Ice with starting leypoints!)
Artea- Speed+Healing that basially never runs out is a scary combo.

The Matches
Elvis   vs   Diekbeck - Can't vote.
Elvis   vs   Lamington - See above.
Elvis   vs   Jecht - Urgh. Undecided.
Elvis   vs   Kato - idk who kato is
Elvis   vs   Nate (P1) - i know who nate is but idk what he can do
Elvis   vs   Hrist - Oh Hrist, you poor... Elvis wins PC Hrist, and I can see him winning out against Boss Hrist.
Elvis   vs   Garai - Can't vote.
Elvis   vs   Lyn - Elvis. Definitely. Lyn can't double him, and can't OHKO even with crits.
Elvis   vs   Zerase - As I recall, Zerase has pretty bad speed and defense. Also, doesn't hit Elvis's weaknesses.
Elvis   vs   Legretta - My Elvis respect is pretty high. Legretta... Mrf. Undecided. I can see Elvis winning but... That might be my biased fanboy talking.
Elvis   vs   Surt - Can't vote.
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3) - Can't vote.
      
Kartikeya   vs   Diekbeck
Kartikeya   vs   Lamington
Kartikeya   vs   Jecht - Can't decide.
Kartikeya   vs   Kato
Kartikeya   vs   Nate (P1)
Kartikeya   vs   Hrist - Mff. Kartikeya.
Kartikeya   vs   Garai
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn - Yeah, good luck there Lyn. I just don't see it happen, Kart's pretty good.
Kartikeya   vs   Zerase - No Zerase endurance respect. At all.
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta - Yeah.
Kartikeya   vs   Surt
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Artea   vs   Diekbeck
Artea   vs   Lamington
Artea   vs   Jecht - Mrf.
Artea   vs   Kato
Artea   vs   Nate (P1)
Artea   vs   Hrist - ... Kneejerk, I think... Artea'd win this.
Artea   vs   Garai
Artea   vs   Lyn - Artea hits Lyn. Lyndis gets two hits with Sol Katti, one of which will probably crit. That's enough to take Artea out.
Artea   vs   Zerase - Too fast for Zerase.
Artea   vs   Legretta - Mrf.
Artea   vs   Surt
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3)

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 01:18:41 AM »
Galcian   vs   Diekbeck
Galcian   vs   Lamington
Galcian   vs   Jecht
Galcian   vs   Kato
Galcian   vs   Nate (P1)- Unsure.
Galcian  vs  Hrist- Eternum.
Galcian   vs   Garai
Galcian   vs   Lyn
Galcian   vs   Zerase
Galcian   vs   Legretta
Galcian   vs   Surt
Galcian   vs   Maya (WA 3)
     
Artea   vs   Diekbeck- Infinite resources.
Artea   vs   Lamington- Doesn't OHKO.
Artea   vs   Jecht- Stone.
Artea   vs   Kato- Status.
Artea   vs   Nate (P1)- Status nonsense.
Artea   vs   Hrist-Isn't weak to holy, so boom. Stone/PWS get him.
Artea   vs   Garai- Infinite resources.
Artea   vs   Lyn- Haha, no.
Artea   vs   Zerase- Run out of resources or blitz. Whatever.
Artea   vs   Legretta- TotA boss vs decent L2 PC.
Artea   vs   Surt- No way does Surt put enough pressure on here.
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3)
     
     
Demi   vs   Diekbeck- Invinicble.
Demi   vs   Lamington- Double spoiling.
Demi   vs   Jecht- Fail less against the status immune.
Demi   vs   Kato
Demi   vs   Nate (P1)- I think.
Demi   vs   Hrist
Demi   vs   Garai- Willbreaker should be enough.
Demi   vs   Lyn- MT unevadable damage. Just the thing Lyn dreads.
Demi   vs   Zerase- Lean towards her going first.
Demi   vs   Legretta- Don't think Demi can completely chip past her limits.
Demi   vs   Surt
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3)
     
Marcello   vs   Diekbeck- Don't see Dispel hitting Invincible.
Marcello   vs   Lamington- Even with the speed and elemental resist.. no. Marcello's giving up way too much in terms of HP here.
Marcello   vs   Jecht- Usual Jecht sucks vote.
Marcello   vs   Kato
Marcello   vs   Nate (P1)- I think.
Marcello   vs   Hrist
Marcello   vs   Garai- I.. think Garai just 2hKOs here actually. Wow.
Marcello   vs   Lyn
Marcello   vs   Zerase
Marcello   vs   Legretta
Marcello   vs   Surt
Marcello   vs   Maya (WA 3)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 01:19:11 AM »
Elvis   vs   Jecht: SPEED. Also, usual Jecht issues.
Elvis   vs   Lyn: Isn't doubled and the ITE. Oh the pain.
Elvis   vs   Legretta: Hits the weakness, among other things.
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3): Squish.

Kartikeya   vs   Jecht: Defense is in full effect, Karti isn't horribly fast.
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn: Has ITE? Lyn isn't too hard to keep from being doubled by, compared to, say, Matthew.
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta: Ahahaha.
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3): Being faster should be enough.

Galcian   vs   Jecht: Damage edge... should be enough? Close, could be convinced otherwise.
Galcian   vs   Lyn: Really bad match despite doubling easily.
Galcian   vs   Legretta: Should be able to chip around Prism Ballet, even with the defense, though barely. Also slightly resists fire, so Searing Sorrow isn't as good.
Galcian   vs   Maya (WA 3): Initial damage advantage.

Tibarn   vs   Jecht: Jecht Beam. Been waiting for it.
Tibarn   vs   Lyn: More durable, more damaging, faster. Uh, yeah, ouch.
Tibarn   vs   Legretta: PDur means she probably gets a Prism Ballet? Though maybe he'll just evade... I'll say not for now though.
Tibarn   vs   Maya (WA 3): Maya has ITE that should ignore melee counters. I think I see Maya being slightly above average in speed. I think both 3HKO. However, even if Maya goes first, AW-RSTN87 x2 + Calamity Jane still doesn't kill, so game.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 01:21:33 AM »
Elvis   vs   Diekbeck
Elvis   vs   Lamington
Elvis   vs   Jecht
Elvis   vs   Kato
Elvis   vs   Garai
Elvis   vs   Lyn
Elvis   vs   Legretta
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Kartikeya   vs   Diekbeck
Kartikeya   vs   Lamington
Kartikeya   vs   Jecht
Kartikeya   vs   Kato
Kartikeya   vs   Garai
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Galcian   vs   Diekbeck
Galcian   vs   Lamington
Galcian   vs   Jecht
Galcian   vs   Kato
Galcian   vs   Garai
Galcian   vs   Lyn
Galcian   vs   Legretta
Galcian  vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Artea   vs   Diekbeck
Artea   vs   Lamington
Artea   vs   Jecht
Artea   vs   Kato
Artea   vs   Garai
Artea   vs   Lyn
Artea   vs   Legretta
Artea   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Demi   vs   Diekbeck
Demi   vs   Lamington
Demi   vs   Jecht
Demi   vs   Kato
Demi   vs   Garai
Demi   vs   Lyn
Demi   vs   Legretta
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3)
      
Marcello   vs   Diekbeck
Marcello   vs   Lamington
Marcello   vs   Jecht
Marcello   vs   Kato
Marcello   vs   Garai
Marcello   vs   Lyn
Marcello   vs   Legretta
Marcello   vs   Maya (WA 3)
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 01:43:18 AM »
Uh... Elvis doesn't have ITD, guys.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 02:18:27 AM »
Elvis   vs   Lamington: Of all the elements Lamington had as his only form of elemental attack, he HAD to have the only one Elvis is NOT weak against.
Elvis   vs   Lyn
Elvis   vs   Zerase: Hardly taps into Elvis's speed, and even if she did, she a) doesn't hit weakness, and b) has to tank past his HP.
Elvis   vs   Legretta
Elvis   vs   Maya (WA 3)

Kartikeya   vs   Lamington: I'll buy starting-hex hype.
Kartikeya   vs   Lyn: Damage overwhelms.
Kartikeya   vs   Zerase: Karty vs a mage. Hi-larious.
Kartikeya   vs   Legretta: Speed.
Kartikeya   vs   Maya (WA 3): Hardly a match.

Demi   vs   Lamington: Good damage.
Demi   vs   Lyn: Healing, methinks, hardly helps.
Demi   vs   Zerase: Goes first. That's the difference between how speed can affect a victory.
Demi   vs   Legretta: Less speed issue than Zerase.
Demi   vs   Maya (WA 3)

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 03:46:45 AM »
Artea   vs   Diekbeck
Artea    vs   Lamington
Artea   vs   Jecht
Artea    vs   Garai
Artea    vs   Lyn
Artea   vs   Zerase
Artea   vs   Legretta

     
Tibarn    vs   Diekbeck
Tibarn    vs   Lamington
Tibarn   vs   Jecht
Tibarn    vs   Garai
Tibarn    vs   Lyn
Tibarn    vs   Zerase
Tibarn   vs  Legretta

     
Demi   vs  Diekbeck
Demi   vs   Lamington
Demi   vs   Jecht
Demi   vs   Garai
Demi   vs   Lyn- will think about it
Demi   vs   Zerase
Demi   vs   Legretta

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 11:55:17 PM »
Uh... Elvis doesn't have ITD, guys.
Okay. Probably doesn't help Jecht enough and that's the only one that it matters for with me. Granted, now I can probably be convince otherwise by a good argument, buuut the speed is still epic.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2008, 02:34:21 AM »
What defense does Variant Attack hit?
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »
What defense does Variant Attack hit?

Physical.

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 07:41:48 AM »
Only voting on Tibarn to prove a point...
NOTE: This is based only on the FE9 form.

Tibarn   vs   Diekbeck: Diek is much faster than Tibarn, so no doubling.  He wins by playing defensively.
Tibarn   vs   Lamington: Tibarn is weak to ice, given Blizzard and Rexcalibur (Clearly Ice animation) both fall under Wind Magic to me, so splat.
Tibarn   vs   Jecht: Jecht Beam.
Tibarn   vs   Kato: PC vs. PC Killer.
Tibarn   vs   Nate (P1): Kneejerk.
Tibarn   vs   Hrist: Cancel screws Hrist over.
Tibarn   vs   Garai: Kneejerk.
Tibarn   vs   Lyn: Good fight! First off, Tibarn is *NOT* faster than Lyn.  Tibarn's actually the slowest Laguz Royal, pegging at 4 points above average speed; yes, he's barely faster than Ike.  Next off, Tibarn wins the tiebreak due to better move...which actually hurts him.  Why?  Lyn opens with a Sword, counters Tibarn's opening move, swaps to a Bow, nails a weakness.  Need to number crunch to see how much this does, etc. as Tibarn may very well survive, but...its not as clear cut as it seems!  An FE Godlike should NOT have a close match with Lyn, regardless (other Godlikes? Maybe, given some of them rely on skill sets and such, thus could get spoiled.  But FE Godlikes are all about UBER STATS, after all; if you're an FE Godlike, you should have no problems crushing significantly lesser PCs.  FE10 Tibarn, for the record, DECIMATES Lyn, no questions asked.)
Tibarn   vs   Zerase: Goes first, should 2HKO, and avoids his counters.  She's definitely fast enough to avoid a Tibarn double.
Tibarn   vs   Legretta: Tibarn has 0 damage control; he isn't avoiding Prism Ballet.
Tibarn   vs   Surt: Should outslug.
Tibarn   vs   Maya (WA 3): I think I see Calamity Jane hitting weakness! Unfortunately, Tibarn goes first and 2 turns pretty easily; Maya doesn't OHKO I don't think.

To set the record straight once and for all:
Despite popular belief and probably kneejerks, FE9 Tibarn's speed is *NOT* that incredible.   As I noted before, his speed is not that much above Ike's; yes, he doubles average, but no, he doesn't have this "Double Everything" aspect that Naesala has, or his FE10 form for that matter.  Its easy to make him stop doubling average; you just need above average speed.  Without those doubles, his damage becomes...significantly worse.  For someone as one dimensional as he is, he NEEDS that damage.

This is one of the main failings he has compared to his FE10 form.  The FE10 form is improved in...well, all ways outside of a more serious elemental weakness (3x instead of 2x).  There's a reason his Godlike hype is a lot more serious there than the FE9 form.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 03:30:33 PM »
Galcian   vs   Diekbeck
Galcian   vs   Lamington
Galcian   vs   Jecht
Galcian   vs   Kato
Galcian   vs   Nate (P1)
Galcian   vs   Hrist
Galcian   vs   Lyn
Galcian   vs   Zerase
Galcian   vs   Legretta
Galcian   vs   Surt

Gaclain 2-8, tough field for him.
     
Artea   vs   Diekbeck
Artea   vs   Lamington
Artea   vs   Jecht
Artea   vs   Kato
Artea   vs   Nate (P1)
Artea   vs   Hrist
Artea   vs   Lyn
Artea   vs   Zerase
Artea   vs   Legretta
Artea   vs   Surt

Artea - 7-3
     
Tibarn   vs   Diekbeck
Tibarn   vs   Lamington
Tibarn   vs   Jecht
Tibarn   vs   Kato
Tibarn   vs  Nate (P1)
Tibarn   vs   Hrist
Tibarn   vs   Lyn
Tibarn   vs   Zerase
Tibarn   vs   Legretta
Tibarn   vs   Surt

4-6


Demi   vs   Diekbeck
Demi   vs   Lamington
Demi   vs   Jecht
Demi   vs   Kato
Demi   vs   Nate (P1)
Demi   vs   Hrist
Demi   vs   Lyn
Demi  vs   Zerase
Demi   vs   Legretta
Demi   vs   Surt

5-5
     
Marcello   vs   Diekbeck
Marcello   vs   Lamington
Marcello   vs   Jecht
Marcello   vs  Kato
Marcello   vs   Nate (P1)
Marcello   vs   Hrist
Marcello   vs   Lyn
Marcello   vs   Zerase
Marcello   vs   Legretta[
Marcello   vs   Surt

6-4

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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 08:47:55 PM »
Update tomorrow.
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Re: Proving Grounds: Godlike Prelims 2
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 08:59:19 PM »
Artea vs. Diekbeck - Mrf. Diek can just MP buster Artea before doing anything.
Artea vs. Jecht- No stone immunity. Game.
Artea vs. Hrist - Decided on PC Hrist for general voting. She resists Holy, and gets two turns to petrify. That's game.
Artea vs Garai - Kneejerk.
Artea vs. Lyn - Should double with Mani/Killer, which means that, while Artea outspeeds CTB-wise... um, yeah, she's getting a second turn kill, and he hates the evade.
Artea vs. Surt - Might Reinforce OHKO. Artea can't get around that.
Artea vs. Maya (WA 3) - Artea opens by chipping and waits until a double to finish the 3HKO. Pretty simple.

Demi vs. Diekbeck - Blaaaaaaaaaah. I'm kneejerking this because Diek actually can't try to whore resources out of someone without MP.
Demi vs. Jecht - Jecht without Delay physicals and Stone fails so hard.
Demi vs. Hrist - Yeah.
Demi vs. Garai - Yup.
Demi vs. Lyn - Demi goes first and 2HKOs while avoiding both counters and evade. Lyn can't do anything about that.
Demi vs. Surt - Fire resistance and solid physical durability means Surt can't OHKO - he might even miss the 2HKO. That's game for Demi.
Demi vs. Maya (WA 3) - Same thing as Artea, just the double takes longer to come out.
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